I wish crime drama shows had more episodes like this where the killer makes the team waste their resources while the body is right under their noses the whole time
Agreed, this is the only movie I can remember seeing as an adult that actually horrified me and I kept thinking about it for a couple days afterward. Including because of what it implied about some of the earlier scenes with references to the golden egg, etc. It's obviously a well made movie to have that effect on me, but I completely unironically recommend that people not watch it unless they are ready to be a bit mentally fricked for a while afterward.
Yeah I liked this too. He wasn’t Hannibal Lecter he was just above average in intelligence. Was not impulsive AT ALL. He didn’t even have the normal psycho impulses that drove him to do it. So he really had no reason to slip up like most serial killers do. He isn’t even a serial killer.
As I recall the way he narrated and explained things it was like he was a high functioning psychopath. Not a sadist. Literally a normal dude with a family he took care of and friends and a normal job.
Then him saving that kid because it’s just the kind of thing you automatically do made him wonder if he could do the opposite. As in could he physically do it? Could he mentally do it?
And once he accomplished it. He basically proved to himself he could and was finished. Didn’t do it ever again. Meanwhile the guys life was ruined and he was obsessed.
He did seem to get some pleasure from seeing and knowing the boyfriend was so desperate to find her and know the truth of what happened. I’m not sure if he kills the boyfriend because it gives him some thrill or if he was legit just showing him what he wanted to know, what happened to her. And in his mind the guy would probably be better off dead than obsessing over her forever, he certainly didn’t do it because he was worried he would catch him or anything. Talking to him at all put him in way more danger of being exposed than was necessary
Yeah I wonder if he actually had some backup plan to kill the guy if he refused the drug, or if he was being serious that "ah whatever you have no way to pin this on me so I'll let you go"... which seems like it would be pretty risky for the killer. Maybe the killer wanted precisely the thrill of figuring out if he could pull off this psychological manipulation. But it seems out of character for him to not have a backup plan.
I assumed he had no backup plan really. Because yeah, there is absolutely nothing he has to ever prove this dude did anything, they would never find her body. Nobody around the kidnap area would be able to identify him years later, they didn’t even see it happen at the time.
Meanwhile he knows the guy is obsessed, clearly unstable if he’s willing to come this far rather than going to the cops.
Worst thing that could possibly happen if he cuts him loose
>he finds out who he is >harasses him and his family, publicly accusing him of it >nobody believes it because why would they? Plus he seems crazy >could just call the cops and have a restraining order or even get him locked away
Then again he could also show up to his house with a knife and kill his family or some shit if he snaps so who knows. Maybe killer did have a backup plan to just hit him with a shovel or something
>And once he accomplished it. He basically proved to himself he could and was finished. Didn’t do it ever again. Meanwhile the guys life was ruined and he was obsessed.
Did you forget that he send postcards to the BF, taunting him and watching him from afar.
He most likely turned into a serial killer, and him killing the BF indicates that this is just his beginning of his killing spree.
>The investigation was prompted by the search for Shannan Gilbert, a 24-year-old woman who had disappeared in the area in May that year after fleeing from a client's home and making a 23-minute-long emergency call to 911, saying, "They are trying to kill me." >23-minute-long emergency call
For frick's sake cops, it's eastern Long Island, not the middle of Siberia or something.
I read the book and unironically couldn't sleep that night. Was just feeling deeply uncomfortable and thinking about the golden egg. Good book but would never read it again.
The Interview is great but I find it quite different from Spoorloos emotionally because in The Interview you never really get to know any of the victims. Fantastic movie though.
I didn't know about the movie's ending or that it even existed. I watched it on a late night movie channel here in Europe and it's the one movie I'll never watch again. I get the most sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach at the thought of it. Such a pure love destroyed in the most heinous and heartless way. It blackpilled me on people since the very next day I heard about this dude who killed a couple on a park because he was angry he lost his wage on a bet.
For me, it was how pure their love was and how the MC only drank the coffee due to the fact he remembered their promise. I've seen gore and shit and never cared for it but the concept of a pure love being destroyed for no good reason like that horrifies to me to my core. If only love was real in the real world.
I thought I was desensitized and cynical enough to never be affected so much by a horror or killer movie about completely fictional characters, but this movie got to me for some reason. It might be partly because I wasn't around when one of my relatives died and not everybody in my family is convinced that she really died from alcohol instead of foul play, so I can identify with the idea of desperately needing to know exactly what happened.
It’s disturbing to most people, even people jaded by years of horror movies and gore. Because it’s entirely psychological and easier to empathise with the victim.
He lost the love of his life and was willing to do ANYTHING for even a HOPE of finding out what happened to her. Not even getting her back alive, he didn’t really think that was possible.
And he is punished for this in a horrific end. All while the bad guy goes back to his happy life with loving family members
Even the fact his girlfriend was targeted at absolute random and only really got taken because she was kind enough to want to help someone she thought was injured makes us feel bad beyond the surface level of “she’s cute and it’s his gf so I should feel bad if she’s taken”. We don’t actually spend much time with her as the viewer, we spend way more with his new gf. But the impact generally hits us the same from the small time we did have with her and the boyfriends incredible acting of desperation and sadness over her
I think Eden Lake is the worst ending I’ve seen for a horror/thriller. Just lost all hope
Worst part was there was no catharsis or sense of camp or the hyper realism that typically comes with movies in general to underplay it. It felt too gritty and real and as it dawned on her it was just a “it’s so over” feeling
I think what gets to me is the fact that Fassbender could’ve easily taken them if he’d attacked first. But they’re good people. Civilised people. Society tells you not to do something like that.
And when good people are faced with savages who do not care about the social contract, then they’re at a severe disadvantage
Watch Speak No Evil
ah yes, really liked that one
Hitler dood
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I wish crime drama shows had more episodes like this where the killer makes the team waste their resources while the body is right under their noses the whole time
Agreed, this is the only movie I can remember seeing as an adult that actually horrified me and I kept thinking about it for a couple days afterward. Including because of what it implied about some of the earlier scenes with references to the golden egg, etc. It's obviously a well made movie to have that effect on me, but I completely unironically recommend that people not watch it unless they are ready to be a bit mentally fricked for a while afterward.
Yes any white collar normie who can envision it, plan it, could do it if they wanted.
I think one of the creepy things about Spoorloos is that the killer is believably smart rather than just typical Hollywood character "smart".
Yeah I liked this too. He wasn’t Hannibal Lecter he was just above average in intelligence. Was not impulsive AT ALL. He didn’t even have the normal psycho impulses that drove him to do it. So he really had no reason to slip up like most serial killers do. He isn’t even a serial killer.
As I recall the way he narrated and explained things it was like he was a high functioning psychopath. Not a sadist. Literally a normal dude with a family he took care of and friends and a normal job.
Then him saving that kid because it’s just the kind of thing you automatically do made him wonder if he could do the opposite. As in could he physically do it? Could he mentally do it?
And once he accomplished it. He basically proved to himself he could and was finished. Didn’t do it ever again. Meanwhile the guys life was ruined and he was obsessed.
He did seem to get some pleasure from seeing and knowing the boyfriend was so desperate to find her and know the truth of what happened. I’m not sure if he kills the boyfriend because it gives him some thrill or if he was legit just showing him what he wanted to know, what happened to her. And in his mind the guy would probably be better off dead than obsessing over her forever, he certainly didn’t do it because he was worried he would catch him or anything. Talking to him at all put him in way more danger of being exposed than was necessary
Yeah I wonder if he actually had some backup plan to kill the guy if he refused the drug, or if he was being serious that "ah whatever you have no way to pin this on me so I'll let you go"... which seems like it would be pretty risky for the killer. Maybe the killer wanted precisely the thrill of figuring out if he could pull off this psychological manipulation. But it seems out of character for him to not have a backup plan.
I assumed he had no backup plan really. Because yeah, there is absolutely nothing he has to ever prove this dude did anything, they would never find her body. Nobody around the kidnap area would be able to identify him years later, they didn’t even see it happen at the time.
Meanwhile he knows the guy is obsessed, clearly unstable if he’s willing to come this far rather than going to the cops.
Worst thing that could possibly happen if he cuts him loose
>he finds out who he is
>harasses him and his family, publicly accusing him of it
>nobody believes it because why would they? Plus he seems crazy
>could just call the cops and have a restraining order or even get him locked away
Then again he could also show up to his house with a knife and kill his family or some shit if he snaps so who knows. Maybe killer did have a backup plan to just hit him with a shovel or something
>And once he accomplished it. He basically proved to himself he could and was finished. Didn’t do it ever again. Meanwhile the guys life was ruined and he was obsessed.
Did you forget that he send postcards to the BF, taunting him and watching him from afar.
He most likely turned into a serial killer, and him killing the BF indicates that this is just his beginning of his killing spree.
>The investigation was prompted by the search for Shannan Gilbert, a 24-year-old woman who had disappeared in the area in May that year after fleeing from a client's home and making a 23-minute-long emergency call to 911, saying, "They are trying to kill me."
>23-minute-long emergency call
For frick's sake cops, it's eastern Long Island, not the middle of Siberia or something.
Exact same thing happened to me. Kubrick said it was the scariest movie he'd ever seen so I watched it. Terrifying
Reminded me of this bit in My Dinner with Andre
SPOILERS
Watch Schindler's List.
some of the acting didnt age too well though (or maybe i just watched a bad dub)
Unironically overrated. I found it really boring and beyond unbelievable.
is it me or north europeans can't make an interesting movie even if their life was dependent on it
the american remakes ending is laughable in comparison. Couldn't believe it was made by the same dude, it was like an act of self sabotage.
I read the book and unironically couldn't sleep that night. Was just feeling deeply uncomfortable and thinking about the golden egg. Good book but would never read it again.
Didn't know there was a book but yeah that's just how I felt about the movie. Good movie but... extremely disturbing.
Spoorloos + Manhunter are nice opposite ends of the spectrum. It beats out Henry Portrait of a Killer by having even less filler for KINO.
If you like Spoorloos then you'll probably like The Interview.
I also think this movie is where DS9 writers got the idea for Cardassian Enigma Tales.
The Interview is great but I find it quite different from Spoorloos emotionally because in The Interview you never really get to know any of the victims. Fantastic movie though.
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I didn't know about the movie's ending or that it even existed. I watched it on a late night movie channel here in Europe and it's the one movie I'll never watch again. I get the most sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach at the thought of it. Such a pure love destroyed in the most heinous and heartless way. It blackpilled me on people since the very next day I heard about this dude who killed a couple on a park because he was angry he lost his wage on a bet.
The Dutch can't make movie for shit.
It's always blonde 10/10s on screen "acting".
yes yes, terrible
hehe c anal boat
or sandBlack folk made to look they have white girlfriends that are ultra propaganda movies, but no one gives a shit about those "comedy" movies
that makes me wonder what REAL dutch movies are like, it always feel that there's some filter in them
This movie's ending had no effect on me. I don't know how everyone says it's so horrifying. I must be a sick desensitized frick
For me, it was how pure their love was and how the MC only drank the coffee due to the fact he remembered their promise. I've seen gore and shit and never cared for it but the concept of a pure love being destroyed for no good reason like that horrifies to me to my core. If only love was real in the real world.
I saw it with my dad and we both had a nightmare about the ending that night
I thought I was desensitized and cynical enough to never be affected so much by a horror or killer movie about completely fictional characters, but this movie got to me for some reason. It might be partly because I wasn't around when one of my relatives died and not everybody in my family is convinced that she really died from alcohol instead of foul play, so I can identify with the idea of desperately needing to know exactly what happened.
it was during an era were people where still using payphones, ofcourse someone born post that wont feel scared
It’s disturbing to most people, even people jaded by years of horror movies and gore. Because it’s entirely psychological and easier to empathise with the victim.
He lost the love of his life and was willing to do ANYTHING for even a HOPE of finding out what happened to her. Not even getting her back alive, he didn’t really think that was possible.
And he is punished for this in a horrific end. All while the bad guy goes back to his happy life with loving family members
Even the fact his girlfriend was targeted at absolute random and only really got taken because she was kind enough to want to help someone she thought was injured makes us feel bad beyond the surface level of “she’s cute and it’s his gf so I should feel bad if she’s taken”. We don’t actually spend much time with her as the viewer, we spend way more with his new gf. But the impact generally hits us the same from the small time we did have with her and the boyfriends incredible acting of desperation and sadness over her
I think Eden Lake is the worst ending I’ve seen for a horror/thriller. Just lost all hope
Worst part was there was no catharsis or sense of camp or the hyper realism that typically comes with movies in general to underplay it. It felt too gritty and real and as it dawned on her it was just a “it’s so over” feeling
Good movie but I feel like the chavs were way too comically overpowered.
I disagree, she kills one after all.
I think what gets to me is the fact that Fassbender could’ve easily taken them if he’d attacked first. But they’re good people. Civilised people. Society tells you not to do something like that.
And when good people are faced with savages who do not care about the social contract, then they’re at a severe disadvantage
>spoorloos 😀
>jumps off a balcony for fun
Needed a reminder to Trust No One... Not Even Yourself.