>There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss, but when it looked back at us, you blinked.
>There is a difference between you and me.
>There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss, but when it looked back at us, you blinked.
What's this from?
The one where Batman fricks evil Wonder Woman and Superman is from Joisey
Crisis on 2 earths, I believe.
This makes no sense
Owlman gave into his darker side, batman remains resilient to his.
That makes no sense in the context of this movie.
The context of the movie is literally "Good metahumans vs their evil corrupt versions". What's not to get about that?
moron
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Batman will pull something like this but still refuse to kill the Joker or let someone else do it
But the joker isn't an existential threat, unlike owlman in this instance
what about those 2 times Joker got all of Mxyptlk's powers and destroyed the multiverse, or that time he got an anti-Dr Fate helmet and killed loads of people, or that time he created Batkek, or that time he worked with Darkseid to put Trump into office, or those several times he created plagues strong enough to wipe out every living being on earth, or that time he started a nuclear holocaust, or that time he sold nukes to islamic terrorists, or that time he helped wake Perpetua up, or that time he had the Rock of Ages and was reality warping all of America, or that time he went to Mortal Kombat and helped their death god guy slaughter the whole population, or that time he mindraped the entire justice league to become killer clowns, or...
>But but if you kill a killer the number of killers in the world stays the same!!!
what if I break his spine and leave him comatose?
it factually does, murdering someone instead of just preventing future deaths doesn't lessen deaths it only adds them by one. Two Wrongs do not make a Right.
>instead of just preventing future deaths
By getting rid of the Joker.
Not that it matters since writers will have him come back anyway.
"getting rid" of Joker is murder and is inexcusable. The correct solution is to be a hero and stop his plans if he ever breaks out.
>inexcusable
It is excusable, because of stuff like
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You're wasting your time. Most of these anons are chronically online individuals. People argue about this because they're bored not because they care.
Pipe down you uppity little homosexual. Do you need someone to help shut you up? Keep your head down.
Evil must be destroyed. The only way to deal with evil wicked nasty people is the death penalty. Some people are not redeemable. Sad to think about all the REAL people who died horrific deaths because of the stupidity of the justice system carelessly dealing with real life pieces of shit.
if you kill them just for disobeying your rules then you are no better than they are.
Oh boo hoo, you won't make me feel bad about wanting to kill a lunatic that kills children for fun and actively refuses to get help
I liked that Robot Chicken skit too.
How many people are killed by escapees from high security prisons/death row type places, compared to how many innocent people get put to death?
As long as the second number is bigger, I'm not a fan of legal killing compared to prison
Better say how many people that got out of prison killed again, and you would be surprised.
> murdering someone instead of just preventing future deaths doesn't lessen deaths it only adds them by one
That excuse doesn’t work in a timeline where you can literally see the future, using dozens of different methods. Hell, Batman himself could just sit on the Mobius Chair and ask, “Will killing Joker prevent more deaths than it would cause?”, and the chair would answer yes.
Anyone ever wonder if some of the modern "violence/killing is NEVER the answer" is pushed super hard by people on the top who really have no defense if a bunch of poors start throwing bricks?
>violence/killing is NEVER the answer"
I despise people who think this way. Most of these people on here are coddled individuals who never went through fricked up forms of torture, experienced true fear of death, or have ZERO idea what is going on outside of their homes to other people. They get their ideas from these shitty comic books full of propaganda and start projecting them onto real life like it's fricking fiction. Makes me sick to my stomach.
>who never went through fricked up forms of torture, experienced true fear of death
speak for yourself kiddo. If you ever experience these kind of horrors like real people know you would NEVER wish it upon any human being. Killing is never justified and only coddled teenagers who have no idea how the real world works think killing is ok.
t. couch potato w/ zero hardships
t.evil villain like Owlman who doesn't understand that the ones who go through the most pain in life aren't coddled excuse-making edgelords like him but the truehearted heroes who never stray from good like Batman
>Owlman
>Batman
Mother of insanity, you're still living in a fictional world. You are beyond fricked if you're using drawings as a reference for real life. Get help.
> If you ever experience these kind of horrors like real people know you would NEVER wish it upon any human being.
Explain the Nuremberg trials then. If the near-genocided israelites “would never wish harm on anyone” due to their past experiences, why would they be so insistent on putting all Nazi officers to death? Surely, Nazis wouldn’t deserve the death penalty over gassing a few million israeli civilians, according to your morals?
>or that time he worked with Darkseid to put Trump into office
If I have my Miller math right that was actually Dick Grayson
>But the joker isn't an existential threat
That's bruce, not the joker
What are you talking about? He didn't kill Owlman and even gave him the teleporter so he could save himself. Owlman just chose not to.
ENOUGH ABOUT THE CLOWN
that quote was a long speal about how dealing with monstrous things turns you into a monster as well, "the abyss staring back at you" means you becoming evil. Bruce got it entirely backwards and just said that Owlman did not become evil while he himself did
anon the point of the "Abyss staring back at you" is about acceptance of oneself, both light and dark (the abyss in this case)
Batman's whole deal is that he accepts who he is for better or for worse since it motivates his drive to do good as Batman
Owlman "blinking" means he couldn't accept something about himself which results in his more nihilistic attitude
>taking what anon is saying literally
you're the one who threw out an insult when confronted with a counterpoint you fricking homosexual lmao
>Plot establishes literally any decision made by anyone, no matter how minor, creates two Earths
>Therefore billions of Earths are being created a second
>Meaning the Justice League/Crime Syndicate conflict is playing out identically on countless Earths
>So countless Batmen are chasing Countless Owlmen through the portal, because of stuff like some guy in China deciding to skip lunch while Batman was walking to the portal.
>But they all have a single fixed destination, Earth Prime, and a device that apparently keeps them anchored there.
So why wasn't Earth Prime filled with infinite Batmen, Owlmen, and Bombs?
Because it wasn't the real earth prime. As soon as someone landed there it split off the plan was never gonna work
That kind of undercuts the drama though. Why have the big fight if Owlman is just going to blow up a dead rock?
It kinda proves his point as well as shows why batman is still correct. Nothing matters but you still choose to do something evil because of it.
People taking a bunch of shitty cartoons this seriously. Imagine having a stupid capeshit moron in an animal costume be your role model. Go outside you fricking losers.
Go have a nice day you pathetic moron.
You came all the way here to the cartoons and comics board of Cinemaphile just to tell the comics and cartoons fans how much comics and cartoons are stupid and not worth thier time?
Are you mentally deficient in some capacity? Asking honestly
>came all the way
Yes, clicking for 3 seconds, how laborious.
I'm sure Owlman probably has some awareness that what he's doing is ultimately futile, but he wants to take the chance that maybe it will work. Batman probably also understands that letting Owlman do his thing probably won't hurt anything, but he can't take the chance that his scheme might actually work. Both their actions are futile, but they're doing so for opposing reasons.
Maybe this Owlman is the only one who succeeded in reaching prime earth, or the only one who decided on omnicide to begin with
Any multiverse based off "decisions" (in real theories it isn't "oh what shoes should I wear", but more quantum shit) can't allow purposeful travel like that. Because you'd have an infinite number of universes where everything is identical except a different atom on Pluto decayed or something.
So yeah, if you could actually find a "specific place" (even ignoring all the branches made just since you arrived), all those travelers would make a black hole.
Instead it'd be more like trying to move to a new universe in an infinite multiverse would just create a new location and almost just an expansion of where you left from.
So multiverse threats never really make sense, but it's hard to think about.
Because only 1 timeline matters.
I want an entire series set in a crime Syndicate universe
Would be kino
Capital punishment should be used far more often.
I'm tired of all the Batman threads ending up having the same discussion that he has to kill the Joker.red hood fans are the worst DC fandom.
Red hood was better
Owl Man was objectively right though.
With the whole multiverse shit, I'm not going to go into headcanons like "infinity means also infinite copies" or anything. People for and against my position just throw in fanfiction for justification, I will only go-off what is shown. It's established that it's a quantum scenario based on possible outcomes so no other earth is alike, it's not a generic infinite realities multiverse. Owlman is correct in destroying the multiverse is the only action that truly matters because any other actions will still have an alternate reality where it didn't happen or something else. No matter what you do there is still an infinite number of other realities that objectively exist, that stemmed from your very action, that made your action meaningless. You can choose to ignore this and live in your delusion of your original reality being the only one that matters but this is a farce because you can also live in other realities. There is no providence, no fate, no reason or meaning behind existence, you are simply a random outcome playing itself out. The only action you take that definitively shapes all reality is reality's destruction. There isn't an alternate reality where you didn't succeed in destroying reality because this multiverse is going off earth prime anchor logic.
In real life there is no multiverse, no alternate reality, there is providence but also a place for free will, there is a reason behind your existence and actions and there is an ultimate love to be found in God (Jesus Christ specifically). You only have one reality and existence and therefore everything matters.
It didn't matter.
Besides, Crisis on Two Earths, are any of the other DC animated movies worth watching?
Batman Year One
This is so fricking cringe. No wonder anime is winning the culture war.
I thought it was because Owlman was younger, stronger, faster, smarter, and had a bigger dick capable of satisfying an Amazon.
And he gave all of that away because he was a nihilist.
Smug Owlman