There isn't ONE (1) accurate movie about pre-1750s history
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There isn't ONE (1) accurate movie about pre-1750s history
There isn't ONE (1) accurate movie about pre-1750s history
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A medieval farmer was unironically happier than a modern day wagecúck
Nooooo, how could he be happy with death rates so high and no universal healthcare and being oppressed by evil nobles and clergy??!!!!
Sure, he's never known better. Born in ignorance and being fed lies by the corrupt church how would one expect him to not be that way? Nobody told him of the greatness that came before and the freedoms his ancestors enjoyed.
>freedoms his ancestors enjoyed
Getting wiped out by the Romans and enslaved
Your ancestors WERE Romans right anon?
My ancestors were black according to the BBC
You see any Romans around? Because Germans sure are here and always have been.
What greatness came before? What freedoms did his ancestors enjoy? I'm genuinelly curious what the pleb justification for this popular train of thought
The freedom to roam around as they pleased, nomadically wandering from place to place, free as a bird to see all the wonders of the world while he enjoyed days of mostly leisure alongside his nomadic hunter-gatherer kin.
can you point exact year and place where this happened?
or can you cite your source?
Most of pre-agricultural human history.
I don't feel so good.. ACK!
Still a better life than a medieval farmer
It wasnt a fricking hike like you took with your dad, they werent just wandering around, they had to move to follow food source or escape competition, their life was constant struggle for survival with no security, they werent fricking lying around in grass watching clouds, they had to constantly be on the lookout for predators or prey, they couldn'ť just do what they wanted, their tribes likely had very strict rules and hierarchy, you would be more likely more limited by society back then than you are now and your "kin" means your family, just fricking imagine you would be forced to spend your whole life with your parents, siblings, uncles, aunts, there would be no escape from them and you would have to obey them
Frick romantism, frick Rousseau and frick you for being this moronic about it.
Still better than living as a medieval farmer.
Not true. Nomads actually did have a lot of free time because of diminishing returns for foraging and hunting. They weren't limited by the 'amount' of food around, so much as the food density. The land could only support so much food and straining yourself looking for more wouldn't justify the calories used. I don't recall exactly but I read they worked about 4 hours per day for hunter gathering and hung out the rest of the day. Look at wild animals. They lay around and relax a lot of the day.
What made it harder was the king owned most prime hunting lands for feeding himself and his crew. The punishment for taking a deer or rabbit off of royal property is death. So the masses survived off of milk, cheese, bread, and other lighter foods. And ALL farmers owed the lion's share of what they produce to the king.
There were no kings in hunter gatherer societies. Just small bands of blood-relatives roaming around.
My point there was that they weren't just going anywhere they wanted "free as birds", their nomadic lifestyle was strictly dictated by aviability of food.
Look, dum-dum, there are anthropological studies of hunter-gatherer tribes that survived to XX century in remote corners of the world. While it is impossible to study a primitive culture without contaminating it, we can pretty definitvely say, that life of a hunter-gatherer involved spending most of the day on getting food and then preparing it, and very high probability of violent death in tribal conflicts.
There were barely any people and nature everywhere. There would have been frick tons of juicy animals like Bison to run off a cliff. You'd have more than you could ever want. Look at all those cave paintings. You need a full stomach and some comfort before you start making drawing on walls a priority.
>priority.
>cave painting so rare that majority was discovered only in last 100 years
i highly doubt it was their primary occupation
1. You only hate the idea of spending time with your parents because of postmodern individualism drilled into you.
2. There were around 100 people per tribe, you'd hang out with people your age.
3. There were multiple tribes, you could make your own or move to a different one. Otherwise inbreeding would destroy the tribe.
4. Humans evolved to live in communities, we have all this "freedom" now but never seen before loneliness and depression.
Go read Zymund Bauman's book on liquid modernity. He has one on human bonds too.
Every lifestyle is.
And that's a good thing. Angl*s ruined the world.
Medieval farmers worked less hours, spent more time with their families, friends and neighbors, ate 100% organic food, weren't being watched 24/7 by a security-surveillance system.
Urbanized people have the highest rates of loneliness, depression, virginity and binge eating disorders in recorded history. Drug abuse is also rampant. These are symptomps of failed lifestyles.
There have been scientific studies about how organic compounds in the soil and in trees serve as natural anti-depressants, on top of vitamin D necessitating sunlight to be produced inside your body. This gives "touch grass" and "go outside" some truth to it. We as a society have never spent so much time indoors, and especially far from plant life.
People first began migrating en masse from rural areas to urban ones because of Enclosure laws passed in England, where the Industrial Revolution started. This deprived commoners of land, so they had to become urban wagecúcks.
Written records from Ancient Greece to around the 18th century show heart attacks were extremely rare, now they're the most common cause of death worldwide.
The potato brought from the New World required even less work to produce than grains, and gave people more calories and nutrients. We could be living the life of medieval farmers and working 1/4 of the time they did. However this free time was used to create the atrocity known as the industrial revolution.
Medieval farmers weren't the ones who started climate change.
There have been 70-year-old hunter-gatherer fossils found in the Americas, and analysis of the stomach contents of their tribesmen show they knew what plants were medicinal, so their medicinal knowledge, quality-of-life and length-of-life were good. Obviously doesn't apply for every civilization, we're talking different continents, but it's not black and white.
>The potato brought from the New World required even less work to produce than grains, and gave people more calories and nutrients.
The old world had no shortage of legumes and nightshades and other non-grain food to grow. Why were they so tied to grain, and why was the potato the one that broke that tie?
(And how much did it break it? I've read that farmers started growing lots of corn when it was brought back from the New World too, and how much better it made dishes like polenta.)
>What greatness came before? What freedoms did his ancestors enjoy?
in the case of England the anglo-saxons had no indentured serfs instead the average peasant was a free farmer within a system vaguely similar to the vikings but with Christianity (the anglo-saxon church had a lot of freedom from the papacy tho) and without being the 9th century version of a syrian rapefugee. They also had probably the strongest monastic tradition of the era with both the oldest complete pre-vulgate bible and most extensive vernacular history of the middle ages being from anglo-saxon england. There is a reason that when Charlemane wanted to reignite french monastic learning he got an Abbot from the Kingdom of Northumbria.
That is generally what english speaking popular history means when talking about lost freedoms after 1066.
>fed lies by the corrupt church
Lol, tell me you're American without actually telling me you're American.
>tell me you're x without actually telling me x.
Just say you think he is American. It means the same thing.
And a pre-agricultural hunter-gatherer was happier than a medieval farmer.
I mean the reason the population didn't grow wasn't because they were fricking.
They were probably happy when they weren't busy fricking dying by the truckload though
>I mean the reason the population didn't grow wasn't because they were fricking.
The medieval ages had a high rate of infant mortality as well, that doesn't mean much since nobody cares about child mortality.
this. neolithic revolution was a mistake. imagine grilling slabs of mammoth meat with your bros, eating sweet berries gathered by your tribe's sexually free thinking girls and copulating with them and tripping balls from mushrooms prepared for you by tribal shamans and wondering at the wonders of nature and interconnectedness of your tribe that happily shares all resources. and then some fricker decides to start farming and BAM you are toiling in the fields and all the surplus of your labour is taken away by parasitic warrior and priest castes who have taken away all the good looking girls to their harems and control your inner spiritual life with laws and dogma that is made up from priests neuroses and futile attempts to control nature that have blossomed into ridiculously autistic totalitarian scripture from headcanon and fanfiction upon fanfiction. you must submit.
you are more moronic than a medieval farmer
People banging rocks together were happier.
Except when knights came passing through, and beat him up while raping his wife and daughter.
a modern farmer is unironically happier than a modern day wage cuck
>owns land
>makes food
>encouraged to pay slave wages to illegals since white people think they're too good to pick corn
>people will always need to eat so government literally cannot regulate you on this or else the line go down
unless you're some podunk sustenance farmer feeding his 12 good little christian cousinfrickers in sisterc**t, idaho, being a farmer is the quintessential chad move.
>modern farmer
>owns land
lol
He's just as likely to own his land as any medieval farmer.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
>serfs
>owning land instead of the land owning them
Are you helping his point?
>serfs
>owning land
What are you talking about? Serfs were property themselves, they had little better legal standing than slaves. They were graciously allowed to sustain themselves off their lords land, while they did all the work for their lords.
I know that, I fricked up my reply to the guy saying medieval farmers had the same chance of owning land as a modern farmer. Most farmers own their land these days, they mostly get gyped on GMO seeds that they have to buy anew every season
oh right americuck sold it's principals of land and gun ownership to just double down on gun ownership, I forgot. I guess I understand why they clutch those irons so tightly, now, it's the only half of the promise of America that was actually kept.
huh?
Unless you live in the middle of the desert or mountain top where stuff isn't going to grow, it's not government owned land, it's owned by the farmers themselves
>owns land
the passion of the christ
ITT: uncultered and uneducated contrarians making assumptions based on feeling and memes
>implying anything you think you know about history 1750s and earlier is even factual in the slightest.
t. time traveller who was there and can tell
The Northman was pretty good when it came to costumes and armour. Outlaw King was passable but still made an effort. Aguirre was pretty period accurate as well. Haven’t seen Silence but doesn’t that also take place pre-1700s?
I realize you set the date to 1750 to exclude Barry Lyndon, and it’s quite surprising how few movies I can think of take place in the 1500-1700 range. The Cromwell movie was slammed iirc and that Michael de Ruyter movie doesn’t seem to be that historically accurate.
they don't even accurately report what's going on now and you want accuracy from 270 years ago
>modern program depicts european history in an unfavorable light
>israeli LIES AND PROPAGANDA
>modern program depicts european history in a favorable light
>*sips PBR* ahh now THIS is my ancestry 🙂
meds
Sounding a bit angry. Wanna talk about it, bud?
>why yes, there were hundreds of years of history where everybody just suffered
>yes, it is completely possible for human to live their entire life without joy
>how? thats easy, by not reaching what i consider standard of living
while i agree with shitting on "old good new bad" morons, you are similarly moronic
>People were ignorant
>No medical knowledge
These two are actually fairly true. They didn't have absolutely no medical knowledge but going to the doctor was still more likely to hurt you than help.
did the four humours last through entire medieval period? because all of that is a nonsense
>did the four humours last through entire medieval period
Wouldn't matter, it wasn't until the invention of penicillin that going to the doctor was actually good for you.
>There have been 70-year-old hunter-gatherer fossils found in the Americas
Yes, but hunter-gatherers lived much better lives than medieval farmers did.
Pretty sure it lasted until the Scientific Revolution when one English guy discovered the circulatory system by playing around with dead bodies.
Why did no one think to play around with dead bodies before that?
It was seen as pretty disrespectful.
I'm unconvinced. They had herblore and their own form of medicine. Some stuff was weird like drilling open the skull but modern medicine also has things that will be looked back at similarly in the future.
>hey had herblore and their own form of medicine
Yes, but it was largely bad medicine that would make things worse.
X to doubt.
What people forget is that pharmacy grew out of herblore, with most drugs being derived from plant extracts. Nowadays there are more synthetic drugs but still. Doctors back then probably had a lot of accumulated knowledge of ways to treat ailments, just in different ways. For example nowadays we view pain as bad and overperscribe painkillers leading to addiction, but in the olden days they viewed pain as cathartic and a necessary part of the healing process.
HONEY! They all knew that honey was a natural antibacterial that helped wounds heal. People have known that since the ancient Egyptians.
They also knew that alcohol made water safe to drink. They didn't know why, though. That's why they drank lots of grog.
They also pissed in community buckets, because the amonia in urine helped the dyes they used to better adhere to cloth during cloth-dying.
They were resourceful.
Doctors spent more time consulting astrological charts than they did actually looking at their patients. Yes, there were people who knew what they were doing, but the credentialled medical field was full of quacks. Much the same as today.
>posts on the internet about how backward past medicines and healthcare were
>watches tv advertisement of a pharmaceutical product made entirely to treat side effects of another pharmaceutical product
To be fair there was a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court rendition with a black kid a good decade before that Martin Lawrence joint.
>watches tv advertisement of a pharmaceutical product made entirely to treat side effects of another pharmaceutical product
They did that in the middle ages too
Same with Dave Chapelle in "Men in tights". I'm not saying there was an issue in comedies, but people actually go ballistic if you say it's historically inaccurate to have black knights etc
>not racially diverse
Frick off
You believe all the rest of that chart but not that one?
>Nobody drank water
Half-true. If you lived in an urban area drinking the water was a great way to get sick so people drank beer
Congrats, you're the kind of midwit that the bingo board refers to
>myths
Ah yes, the medieval age, where indoor plumbing was omnipresent, and zoning regulations and the EPA made sure that the local tannerie and slaughterhouse recycled their waste properly. Where one could walk barefoot over concrete roads, lit by LEDs, to the store to buy nutmeg, pepper and vanilla to season ones' varied and high-protein diet. Where schooling was so commonplace that every barber was also a dentist. Luckily everybody could browse the gutenberg-net and read the official Luther translation of the bible so no lord and no bishop could tell any lies about anything. Remember Galileogate? Where the CRI (Catholic Roman Inquisition) tried to brand a scientist as a heretic because he found out that the Earth rotates around the Sun? Thank god everyone was so enlightened, could you imagine what these people could have gotten away with otherwise? They'd probably accuse their wives of witchcraft to get out of a divorce settlement. And thanks to the 2 horsepower carriages, summer vacations on the coast were within reach for almost everyone in europe. If only they had worn masks, then the black death could've been prevented.
>local tannerie and slaughterhouse recycled their waste properly
There was no plastic so uhhhh what the frick are you talking about?
>if its not plastic trash magically vanishes
What do you think happened with all the animal guts, grease and waste from tanning, dyeing and processing textiles?
A Knight's Tale
Black Robe.
Medieval kino coming through.
fpbp
>haha the idea of a black person in medieval europe is totally bonkers! This movie is great!
What the frick happened in the last 20 years?
Nobody asked, med fair gay.
The church is the only reason we know how the medieval era sort of was, being a monk was the most kino job you just wrote all day and autistically kept your collection of books and scriptures tidy and ordered plus taking care of your chapel.
Pre roman history is the tough one, everything we know about it comes from the works of 3 dudes
Wait until you find out how many nations Christians have been expelled from lmao
But I guess they dindu nuffin though
God himself kicked your people out of the Holy lands after getting tired of your shit. Let that sink in.
Cute non sequitur Christcuck. Go worship your rabbi lol
Do you have a number? I know it's happened a bunch of times, but there's no batch of internet haters to obsessively document it like there is with the israelites.
won't be a very interesting film about bunch of degenerates drinking themselves blind and fricking anything in sight. actually it might be now that I think about it.
if it weren't for white people you'd be living in a medieval society
No one will post anything about tv or movies besides me
What an odd list
Theyre movies not documentaries tard. You will never know the truth without time travel.
But I can tell you that your youtube/wikipedia level of education is just as inaccurate as normies, just in different ways. Leave the expertise to professors homosexual
Test
You have no fricking idea what you are talking about.
The medieval ages weren't that bad, but they weren't as good as being a hunter-gatherer.
Go live in the woods like a peasant then homosexual. I wanna see how long you last.
I would say that you should go live on an Amish commune if you think it's so trad and comfy, but you gays are just like pinkos, all talk and no walk
Amish wouldn’t want some waddling incel that contributes nothing and probably is a pedo anyway
A Man for All Seasons
The Devils (1971).
>guys trust me the age of dysentery and cholera was actually secretly fun and great
Try living in the real world, you pathetic /misc/ shit.
they will be making us look like this in media 150 years from now
the outfits of that drawing are surprisingly accurate, 13th-14th century