Duggan/Posehn managed to take the running gag of period parody flashbacks to its zenith with a 90's Liefeld pastiche that then swerved into the most serious one of them all without missing a beat. I'm not sure you can really put it along side the classic runs, if only because of recency, but it felt like a genuinely good version of the character that kept a lot of what was appealing while being able to do something new with him too. A solid, respectable run for the character.
This issue killed me because they kept the entire 90s Liefeld gimmick and never showed anyone's feet, obscuring them in smoke or off-panel. Then the second the flashback ends, the first thing we see is a pair of shoes.
he wasn't a parody, a writer after Deadpool's first appearance noticed the similarities between Deadpool and Deathstroke and as a rib named the character Wade Wilson.
he may have been appropriated from unused Deathstroke designs however as Liefield before joining Marvel had pitched ideas for Teen Titans and you those idea to help create Youngblood, this is a common practice, Kraven's Last Hunt was originally pitched as a Batman story, the 1970's X-Men were rejected and retooled Legion of Superhero designs so on an so on.
It was originally originally a wonderman comic about wonderman being buried alive by the grim reaper but got rejected
Then, it morphed into a batman story about the joker burying batman, thinking he killed him and then going sane. But DC editorial thought it was too similar to the killing joke, so they rejected it.
Then, the guy who came up with the idea was approached by Marvel to take over spiderman, and he was finally able to make his "superhero buried alive" idea take off. They originally wanted a new villain, but they decided on Kraven.
To make the story hit harder, they took over all other spiderman comics running at the time, so no other stories would interfere.
Finally that guy got to release his buried alive fetish
But it really shows how creativity is only allowed in the medium, if it can be appropriated by the big 2's canon
how did they take over the other spidey comics? shut it down?
Likely just didn't release anything else for that month.
there were 3 spiderman books being published at the time I believe: Amazing, Spectacular, and Web of. Each of these usually had their own individual storylines. But, the story of Kraven's Last Hunt took over all of them, so spiderman's "death" was more impactful.
Creative content happens all the time in other non big two comics. Big two is limited since they are an IP train with everyone trying to work on X char.
>Kraven's Last Hunt was originally pitched as a Batman story
It actually was going to be a Wonder man story , then he pitched to dc the story but at the time Joker was killing Jason so
Everyone always cries about the children. Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer were children too, you know. Women abort millions a year. Really, why does anyone pretend to care?
Was definitely more of an effort than your moronic shitposts were.
[...]
Moments like these are why I like Deadpool.
He has standards that others don't expect because of the way he acts. He's generally misunderstood, but he's not the type of person to correct them.
Sure, he isn't shining gold, but he's polishing what he's got.
Uncanny X-Force generally did a great job with Wade. Between this and Posehn's run it felt like the character was recovering from Waypool trash.
1 year ago
Anonymous
your comebacks need work
1 year ago
Anonymous
Are you just gonna seethe all thread long because no one appreciated your "look how edgy I am" shitpost the way you wanted?
No one showered you with "wow the anon is so cool and edgy" like you expected and instead you got called a dumb homosexual?
Get used to it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
lol, lmao
1 year ago
Anonymous
So you're just continue seething for the sake of seething, then. Have fun with that.
1 year ago
Anonymous
1 year ago
Anonymous
You know, you'd have a point if you weren't the one miffed someone didn't spoonfeed you comic pages.
1 year ago
Anonymous
he had to post them himself, man
truly, a service
1 year ago
Anonymous
>wojackshit
yet not inaccurate
Just stop crying already, you little fricking b***h.
jesus christ
You know, your character being against child murder isn't really a noble or super good thing right? Like, that's some basic normal person shit. Wow, he talked down someone who wanted to kill a kid. Truly human. No shit.
Let me spell it out in simplest possible terms for a dumbass like yourself. >a character is a mercenary and a psychotic mass murderer >considered to be the most distrusted member of a literal kill squad >has the most issue with killing Apocalypse >hurr durr why is him having gripes about killing a kid supposed to emphasize he's not that bad?
1 year ago
Anonymous
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I'm not sure what to say in event of this. We were just talking deadpool and this happened all because someone didn't post the page he wanted.
1 year ago
Anonymous
As an entirely neutral observer I just wanted to say that you come across as the biggest homosexual in this argument, that first guy was a dork too but he did have a point, he just expressed it poorly.
1 year ago
Anonymous
nah, you just didn't like how i expressed it
also, this whole fiasco was clearly done
why did you revive it?
1 year ago
Anonymous
As a second neutral observer, I must say that you now act like a biggest homosexual in the thread
1 year ago
Anonymous
As a second neutral observer, I must say that you now act like a biggest homosexual in the thread
see
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, moron. I'm miffed because a brain-damaged butthole thought anyone cares what's inside that little head of his and that his edgy bullshit is worth sharing in an unrelated thread. If this homosexual
Everyone always cries about the children. Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer were children too, you know. Women abort millions a year. Really, why does anyone pretend to care?
simply stayed silent and ignored my request instead of spilling out his "mom I'm 14 years old and le edgy sociopath" bullshit, I wouldn't have cared.
>wojackshit
1 year ago
Anonymous
jesus christ
You know, your character being against child murder isn't really a noble or super good thing right? Like, that's some basic normal person shit. Wow, he talked down someone who wanted to kill a kid. Truly human. No shit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It'd be a great moment if he were a child murderer, ironically and unironically. The realization that what he did was wrong but there is nothing he can do to undo what he has committed.
1 year ago
Anonymous
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh and I just noticed. >wanted
You didn't even read the comic. They KILLED Apocalypse. This is the emotional fallout of that scene.
1 year ago
Anonymous
And?
It was Apocalypse. Would've slammed his head against the wall if I had to. Dude's a fricking super mutant.
thank god
he doesn't want to kill kids, just like me
1 year ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't want to kill kids
Not sure why you're seething so hard, I was just replying to that Anon summarising Deadpool at his best. Him trying to be good and wanting to be loved was a thing long before muh child murder argument
1 year ago
Anonymous
Are you that one anon that posted the pages still actually seething?
this is only tangentially related but I hate how in entertainment overall but including comic book we can't have straight up bad people/anti heroes anymore. People like red hood and punisher should be straight up murderers that's just their own brand of justice.
People are too stupid for critical thinking anymore. Everything has to be starkly black and white. You can't make a sympathetic villain. Racism, sexism, betterism are all evil aspcets of satan. Everyone is equal except in the ways they're different.
sad because one of the most tragic things i've ever read came from some fanfic about an edgy OC
this is only tangentially related but I hate how in entertainment overall but including comic book we can't have straight up bad people/anti heroes anymore. People like red hood and punisher should be straight up murderers that's just their own brand of justice.
It’s cause media literacy, at this point, might as well be dead. It feels like writers literally need to have a disclaimer at the beginning just so that a bunch of teens or man children won’t go on to think they’re supporting the shit that they are writing about.
Yup. My Deadpool exists from his first mini series, 'til the end of Cable & Deadpool ongoing. Everything after that (especially the absolute garbage that was Way run) does not interest me in the slightest.
...so yes, it really annoys me that for a lot of people, Daniel Way is the default and ultimate version of Deadpool.
Original Joe Kelly run where he thinks he's being hired to be the savior of mankind but his job is just to kill something because that's all he's good for.
Even better, it was to kill a thing that was bringing peace and love, unity and happiness to all mankind. Literally the only reason to oppose it was the usual nebulous freewill thing.
What's the point of happines if you can't enjoy it the way you want? If all you want is be happy 24/7, get stoned, and die from overdose. You die happy, if that's your only goal.
Frick daniel way, he ruined him. Worst part is, he even admited how little he cared about writing Deadpool, and it's still somehow the most popular run in the fandom, that most treat as gold standard.
Okay .... so is this a call out of Renolds ruining him or Marvel/Disney?
Cause I don't think the former did, though he did popularize it, but the latter yeah. Hollywood's ruined a lot of shit.
Daniel Way really killed him. Nothing but fart jokes and fourth wall but the real moronic shit started in cable and Deadpool where he'd dress up as miss marvel and shit.
I read Duggan's first run though, it really brought the character back. Also whatever happened to siryn? I want to see those two do stuff again
Chris Priest (second writer on the original 90's ongoing series) started that trend as he's the first one that took "horrible human being" away from "horrible human being with jokes and pop culture references".
On the one hand, I know Deadpool is enough of a softie to not get kids involved in actual training exercises. On the other hand, he totally would let them horse around by beating the snot out of each other because he believes in Gabby that much. And Magik is 100% as much of a hypocritical b***h as usual. So, 5/10, Waypool level.
I miss it when Deadpool was at least a little serious. Tortured soul trying to be good, bad guy who wants to be loved.
Any newer stories that aren't just him killing people in mass and espousing dated memes?
Deadpool was great in the Duggan and Posehn run. Joe Kelly did him justice in Spidey/Deadpool.
We're just going to get well written Deadpool once, maybe twice a decade, along with an avalanche of garbage Deadpool. Could be worse.
With the way Spider-man is written in Well's run now, it's definitely gonna get worse
I liked it but I only got to issue like 20 or something like that
Duggan/Posehn managed to take the running gag of period parody flashbacks to its zenith with a 90's Liefeld pastiche that then swerved into the most serious one of them all without missing a beat. I'm not sure you can really put it along side the classic runs, if only because of recency, but it felt like a genuinely good version of the character that kept a lot of what was appealing while being able to do something new with him too. A solid, respectable run for the character.
This issue killed me because they kept the entire 90s Liefeld gimmick and never showed anyone's feet, obscuring them in smoke or off-panel. Then the second the flashback ends, the first thing we see is a pair of shoes.
no, the gimmick of being an butthole who talks a lot was there from day one and Marvel has just increased the obnoxiousness over time.
Deadpool was created as a parody of a DC character, it was inevitable he eventually be turned fully into a joke
he wasn't a parody, a writer after Deadpool's first appearance noticed the similarities between Deadpool and Deathstroke and as a rib named the character Wade Wilson.
he may have been appropriated from unused Deathstroke designs however as Liefield before joining Marvel had pitched ideas for Teen Titans and you those idea to help create Youngblood, this is a common practice, Kraven's Last Hunt was originally pitched as a Batman story, the 1970's X-Men were rejected and retooled Legion of Superhero designs so on an so on.
where and how to read that kinda deadpool then
>Kraven's Last Hunt was originally pitched as a Batman story,
wait what
what's legion of superhero?
>wait what
yeah
It was originally originally a wonderman comic about wonderman being buried alive by the grim reaper but got rejected
Then, it morphed into a batman story about the joker burying batman, thinking he killed him and then going sane. But DC editorial thought it was too similar to the killing joke, so they rejected it.
Then, the guy who came up with the idea was approached by Marvel to take over spiderman, and he was finally able to make his "superhero buried alive" idea take off. They originally wanted a new villain, but they decided on Kraven.
To make the story hit harder, they took over all other spiderman comics running at the time, so no other stories would interfere.
Finally that guy got to release his buried alive fetish
But it really shows how creativity is only allowed in the medium, if it can be appropriated by the big 2's canon
how did they take over the other spidey comics? shut it down?
Likely just didn't release anything else for that month.
there were 3 spiderman books being published at the time I believe: Amazing, Spectacular, and Web of. Each of these usually had their own individual storylines. But, the story of Kraven's Last Hunt took over all of them, so spiderman's "death" was more impactful.
Creative content happens all the time in other non big two comics. Big two is limited since they are an IP train with everyone trying to work on X char.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_Super-Heroes
>Kraven's Last Hunt was originally pitched as a Batman story
It actually was going to be a Wonder man story , then he pitched to dc the story but at the time Joker was killing Jason so
Despicable Deadpool?
Deadpool volume 1 #1 1994.
it's the first time you see him unmasked
real mutate bean
and a real hero
where are the tumors?
Appetizers.
Why is archangel starving to the point cannibalism is a reasonable solution?
they wer at the moon with no oxygen
I think they were messing with the Horsemen. So, Hunger.
why are they messing wtih them? i'm so confused
why is deadpool blue
x-force colors
they were black ang grey before
>why is deadpool blue
No oxygen on the moon, ever take a science class?
Please post "but I never killed a kid" page from Deathlok arc. Was pretty cool to see Wade call Logan and by extension X-Force out on their shit.
Everyone always cries about the children. Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer were children too, you know. Women abort millions a year. Really, why does anyone pretend to care?
I asked for a page, not your autistic schizo ramblings. Looks like I have to do everything myself then.
logheads be seething over DPchads
How does Deadpool pay for the bullets ?
Isn't he still a mercenary, just because he doesn't kill kids doesn't mean he won't kill someone else
oh wow, such a monumental effort
Was definitely more of an effort than your moronic shitposts were.
Uncanny X-Force generally did a great job with Wade. Between this and Posehn's run it felt like the character was recovering from Waypool trash.
your comebacks need work
Are you just gonna seethe all thread long because no one appreciated your "look how edgy I am" shitpost the way you wanted?
No one showered you with "wow the anon is so cool and edgy" like you expected and instead you got called a dumb homosexual?
Get used to it.
lol, lmao
So you're just continue seething for the sake of seething, then. Have fun with that.
You know, you'd have a point if you weren't the one miffed someone didn't spoonfeed you comic pages.
he had to post them himself, man
truly, a service
Just stop crying already, you little fricking b***h.
Let me spell it out in simplest possible terms for a dumbass like yourself.
>a character is a mercenary and a psychotic mass murderer
>considered to be the most distrusted member of a literal kill squad
>has the most issue with killing Apocalypse
>hurr durr why is him having gripes about killing a kid supposed to emphasize he's not that bad?
Yeah, I'm not sure what to say in event of this. We were just talking deadpool and this happened all because someone didn't post the page he wanted.
As an entirely neutral observer I just wanted to say that you come across as the biggest homosexual in this argument, that first guy was a dork too but he did have a point, he just expressed it poorly.
nah, you just didn't like how i expressed it
also, this whole fiasco was clearly done
why did you revive it?
As a second neutral observer, I must say that you now act like a biggest homosexual in the thread
see
No, moron. I'm miffed because a brain-damaged butthole thought anyone cares what's inside that little head of his and that his edgy bullshit is worth sharing in an unrelated thread. If this homosexual
simply stayed silent and ignored my request instead of spilling out his "mom I'm 14 years old and le edgy sociopath" bullshit, I wouldn't have cared.
>wojackshit
jesus christ
You know, your character being against child murder isn't really a noble or super good thing right? Like, that's some basic normal person shit. Wow, he talked down someone who wanted to kill a kid. Truly human. No shit.
It'd be a great moment if he were a child murderer, ironically and unironically. The realization that what he did was wrong but there is nothing he can do to undo what he has committed.
Oh and I just noticed.
>wanted
You didn't even read the comic. They KILLED Apocalypse. This is the emotional fallout of that scene.
And?
It was Apocalypse. Would've slammed his head against the wall if I had to. Dude's a fricking super mutant.
>wojackshit
yet not inaccurate
>need work
you and me brotha
we're too jobless
Moments like these are why I like Deadpool.
He has standards that others don't expect because of the way he acts. He's generally misunderstood, but he's not the type of person to correct them.
Sure, he isn't shining gold, but he's polishing what he's got.
Fricking yes.
thank god
he doesn't want to kill kids, just like me
>he doesn't want to kill kids
Not sure why you're seething so hard, I was just replying to that Anon summarising Deadpool at his best. Him trying to be good and wanting to be loved was a thing long before muh child murder argument
Are you that one anon that posted the pages still actually seething?
All I posted in this thread is "fricking yes".
this is only tangentially related but I hate how in entertainment overall but including comic book we can't have straight up bad people/anti heroes anymore. People like red hood and punisher should be straight up murderers that's just their own brand of justice.
People are too stupid for critical thinking anymore. Everything has to be starkly black and white. You can't make a sympathetic villain. Racism, sexism, betterism are all evil aspcets of satan. Everyone is equal except in the ways they're different.
sad because one of the most tragic things i've ever read came from some fanfic about an edgy OC
It’s cause media literacy, at this point, might as well be dead. It feels like writers literally need to have a disclaimer at the beginning just so that a bunch of teens or man children won’t go on to think they’re supporting the shit that they are writing about.
oh god
you're right
Remember when Daniel Way was writing Deadpool and it was one of the best selling marvel books every month and Cinemaphile hated it?
Alyssa wong is starting a Deadpool run soon I have never read anything by here should I be worried
>should I be worried
Worry? No. But you shouldn't expect quality, either.
idk, let's read their take I guess
we begin first with the prelude from New Mutants #30
Yup. My Deadpool exists from his first mini series, 'til the end of Cable & Deadpool ongoing. Everything after that (especially the absolute garbage that was Way run) does not interest me in the slightest.
...so yes, it really annoys me that for a lot of people, Daniel Way is the default and ultimate version of Deadpool.
Original Joe Kelly run where he thinks he's being hired to be the savior of mankind but his job is just to kill something because that's all he's good for.
Even better, it was to kill a thing that was bringing peace and love, unity and happiness to all mankind. Literally the only reason to oppose it was the usual nebulous freewill thing.
What's the point of happines if you can't enjoy it the way you want? If all you want is be happy 24/7, get stoned, and die from overdose. You die happy, if that's your only goal.
>get stoned, and die from overdose
Frick daniel way, he ruined him. Worst part is, he even admited how little he cared about writing Deadpool, and it's still somehow the most popular run in the fandom, that most treat as gold standard.
I have never seen anyone defend or recommend the Way run.
Okay .... so is this a call out of Renolds ruining him or Marvel/Disney?
Cause I don't think the former did, though he did popularize it, but the latter yeah. Hollywood's ruined a lot of shit.
Daniel Way really killed him. Nothing but fart jokes and fourth wall but the real moronic shit started in cable and Deadpool where he'd dress up as miss marvel and shit.
I read Duggan's first run though, it really brought the character back. Also whatever happened to siryn? I want to see those two do stuff again
Chris Priest (second writer on the original 90's ongoing series) started that trend as he's the first one that took "horrible human being" away from "horrible human being with jokes and pop culture references".
And it started right after this lazy cliched stereotypical caricature was buried.
On the one hand, I know Deadpool is enough of a softie to not get kids involved in actual training exercises. On the other hand, he totally would let them horse around by beating the snot out of each other because he believes in Gabby that much. And Magik is 100% as much of a hypocritical b***h as usual. So, 5/10, Waypool level.
deadpool joins smash bros?
ok now for the preview of Issue #1 which releases this Wednesday
>Alyssa Wong
I'm torn between dumping this shit after first issue and not picking it up at all.
Who's this
that's it
couple of other unlettered pages from Issue #1
now we're done
reminder to only read old comics
the difference will astound you