There will never be another movie like The Phantom Menace
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There will never be another movie like The Phantom Menace
There will never be another movie like The Phantom Menace
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And that's a good thing.
there will never be any good films ever again
everything now has
untalented literal who actors
composers who dont know how to make music
shitty colors from digital recording
fake cg for everything
neutered scripts
we'll never get masterpieces like this now
>shitty colors from digital recording
That doesn't make sense. It's not the process of recording, those digital cameras have an extremely wide color gamut and they use it. It's the color grading which is a secondary process and often done in a limited gamut, it's a mechanical process so biases show up like - other graders in well selling movies use a lot of blue filters I shall do that as well.
Then there's also the issue of the moving having to be released in limited color gamuts as well so the grading guy just wants to make his life easy and chooses some bland colors that translate well to automatic tone maping.
"Limited" color gamuts like Rec.709 aren't the problem when plenty of movies shot on actual film can look great even on DVD and regular Blu-Ray.
Those DVD and regular blu-ray editions had people scan the original film then digitally tone map it to bt709 with a lot of manual involvement and often having the director around helping them tweak it and saying that's fine before shipping.
I didn't say they were a problem btw.
It's like having a simplified, ready for all devices and consumers versions of the film that's always the same which had the OK of the director, that's why those versions or the streaming platform versions which do the same tend to look so good.
good. it sucked.
>this kills the prequelgay
But Star Wars was always for ten-year-olds.
prequelgays believe the prequels are timeless classics that only cinephiles can appreciate.
meanwhile they've seen less than 500 movies and zero made before 1960. Sad.
I'm starting to think that you're a really angry autist who shitposts furiously on every SW thread.
and I'm supposed to take your opinion seriously why? have you even seen hidden fortress?
you can't fully appreciate the prequels without being familiar with griffith, eisenstein, and lang. prequel haters are moronic gen xers who think song of the south was racist
fewer
YOUSA FOLLOW ME NOW, OKEE-DAY?
Bad
behold, the original jar jar
why did the jedi say they needed to warn the queen about the incoming invasion, but then randomly decide to trust some moronic rabbit and go underwater?
How were the Jedi planning to warn the Naboo about the army by coming down WITH the army? Wouldn't that be a tad bit too late?
furthermore, why the frick did the senate send 2 warrior monks as negotiators? how are they experts in intergalactic diplomacy? if anything, that seems like a sign of aggression from the senate.
The Jedi seem to be experts on everything in the mind of George Lucas. They are warrior monks with diplomatic status. They are supposed to be impartial and help everyone settle their disputes without resorting to violence. Still, the whole plot is fricking dumb and makes no sense.
It was an implied threat, yes
When the Trade Federation controls most of the major land routes to Theed seeking a guide who can get them there through the oceans is a pretty smart move, and the Jedi probably thought it was worth warning the Gungas as well
>When the Trade Federation controls most of the major land routes to Theed
But the Jedi landed with the Trade Federation. The Trade Federation also landed on the other side of the planet for some reason.
>warning the Gungas
Gungas lived under water. The probability of Trade Federation finding them is minuscule. They would not be affected by the so-called invasion and seizure of *one* city in any way.
Why wouldn't they trust the water rabbit?
Do they prioritize the mission or is on Star Trek thing where "When a Jedi is on a planet, he must respect their local customs and laws."
Obviously an outside to the Naboo Conflict would see the Boss of the Gungas and Queen Amidala of the Naboo, they both have claims. Dougt Amidala would not raise Grungan swamp issues in senate meetings.
Who was the protagonist?
The audience
high iq post
The ship they travel from planet to planet in
Introduced later in to the film but everything starts to make sense as we view the world though "its" views
Qui-Gon
Qui-Gon is an entirely static character.
static characters can be protagonists see also: Light Yagami. Qui-Gon ceases to be the protagonist when he dies, then it solely from young Anakin's perspective.
the story's not about him, nor does he have any kind of arc
Protagonists aren't required to have arcs.
The story IS about him: he sets the events of Anakin's arc in motion. He's the one who senses Anakin's force cooties. He's the one who did everything to win him from Watto. He went against the Jedi council's wishes and decided to train Anakin himself (and he would do that if Darth Maul didn't kill him)
who was the protagonist of the wire?
Dunno, haven't seen it.
Padme
The farting alien on tatooine was the protagonist of my life
thank god
Every modern movie is phantom menace
Okay.
>Let’s land on the other side of the planet to warn the Naboo with the ships that are going to INVADE the Naboo!
average star wars fan
>iphone poster
i appreciate the camera in this movie. wish they didn't abandon it for the next 2. captured the universe well. but the movie wasn't that good. great casting though.
i dont know why people get all up in arms over star wars. it was always a pretty vanilla franchise. occasionally it could capture darkness, but rarely.
>le darkness is maturity pleb
The phantom menace = Palpatine. :^)
>le darkness is maturity pleb
dont be a dildo you homosexual. the contrast of good and evil in story telling is always more impactful when the evil is visceral.
star wars is so fricking vanilla and basic with the good guys, to the point it can put you to sleep. after you roll your eyes of course.
It's for kids that's how it was filmed that means you don't show gore and evil acting its evil in complete details.
>the contrast of good and evil in story telling is always more impactful when the evil is visceral.
It's just more tiring but I get that what you crave is gore and violence and that's ok. I just doesn't benefit the story in any way, that's for sure, just a matter of taste.
visceral, not visual. you don't need gore to capture darkness. you want something dark to push the jedi to their limits. like a good joker to contrast batman etc etc.
TO BE FAIR:
Compared with most films SW succeeds in slowly making you side with the Jedis even if you tried to capture an alternative view, the plot and the actions of people don't allow you to root for evil unless you're evil.
>i appreciate the camera in this movie.
yup. phantom menace was mostly shot in film, and then the last 2 were mostly shot digitally. it's very telling.
that makes sense, the second and third looked kinda ridiculous with how much they popped.
Good.
Why does TPM CGI looks better than AOTC and ROTS? in some shots these movies look like video games, but I never really get that feel with TPM.
It doesn't. But for the years when these were designed and rendered ( I think 1995-1998 was the production ) they're very good.
Well I was wrong. But I still think that overall the TPM feels less like Video Game. Especially next to AOTC.
I think for 1999 it looks amazing, ep 2 was a bit of a letdown by the end but visually stunning in 60%+ of it especially the Coruscant scenes.
It's like with most than half of the movie they acknowledged the advancement of tech and used it but by the end they let go and downgraded even compared to the 1999 release.
Yeah always thought the scene in the trade ship looked real great for 1999
To exemplify my point. This is the bad half of ep 2.
i want sex with natalie portman
Because these are models. The droids were not CGI.
theatrical version had a bit different force speed effects
Why didn't Obi-Wan just use this when Qui-Gon was fighting Maul and those laser walls kept popping in and out? He just got walled off like an idiot despite being able to dash right through.
Because there's a risk he could die if one of those closes on him.
This was so dumb. Just why?
the duel-ality of man
For me it's Colin Trevorrow's Star Wars Episode 9: Duel of the Fates
Force speed is so underutilized in these movies. Woulda been cool to see it featured more.
that particular shot as well as the other "shittier" CGI parts were added in the DVD release of the movie (mostly more shots of the alien podracers, see
, they stand out a lot more compared to the rest of CGI in the film.
It really doesn't. TPM's CGI looks atrocious.
The bluray/4k uhd bluray looks shitty, the non-DNR theatrical version is how the film is supposed to look like with the film grain still intact, film grain does wonders to CGI
There are ways to remove grain which don't remove details at all - such as complex temporal filters that are computationally intensive or machine learning ones, example in my pic but your scan is indeed very high quality.
Why would you remove the film grain? The movie was shot on 35mm film, the grain is part of the picture. Any kind of DNR definitely removes at least some detail
>Why would you remove the film grain?
Number one reason to save space, that noise is difficult to encode as it's chaotic and ever present.
Good modern DNR give me trouble noticing any loss of detail. I get what you mean with the old methods where they also made people look like wax characters because there was obvious loss of details.
Nowadays even the ML based one like Topaz denoiser make it impossible for me to notice any loss of detail, even in 4k releases when I zoom it to absurd levels and compare frame by frame in different areas.
There's a clear loss of detail there.
Do I need to zoom in on her hair and make a webm with each screen showing for one second and switching for you to notice that there are more details in the one with grain removed?
A lot of what you call "detail" is just chemical noise, look into the obviously blurred regions like distant sand and you can see the pure noise.
>there are more details in the one with grain removed?
Top fricking kek. Get a load of this moron.
You have empirical proof in your face.
Fix your eyes or alternatively, your brain, for being a terminally moronic troll.
The very notion that DNR would add detail is so moronic that anyone sane is just laughing at you.
Still looks bad. Jar Jar and C3PO are floating.
It looks fine. You morons keep whining about the quality after cherry picking still images and analyzing them with a microscope when this shit was always intended to be seen in motion where non-autists don't notice a thing.
They aren't going to be as critical about their dated halloween costumes, play dough and toy stop motion scenes in the OT
Yes, because the OT was a breakthrough. There was nothing like it, it changed the industry, and you appreciate it.
PT came out at the same time as LotR. And LotR absolutely mogs it. In every possible regard.
In terms of effects, they aren't that dissimilar. However, lotr didn't use a lot of bright lighting which worked to it's benefit. It still has some dated CGI, but it did the right thing with putting people in costume when it came to the orcs for example.
The Hobbit fricked up and made all orks CGI even though you can tell they look inferior. PT did the same thing with some clone troopers.
>with some clone troopers.
With ALL clone troopers. The PT didn't have a single real clone trooper. They were ALL GG. Not a single costume was built.
CGI was a breakthrough as well. In fact all sci fi/capeshit after the PT prostituted CGI even more. And as it turns out, if you don't autistically split hairs about the FX and look for defects, it doesn't look that bad. Use your fricking imagination just like you did with all of the ugly shit in the OT.
Matrix had breakthrough CGI as well but compared to phantom menace it was just in a few scenes and all of those extremely dark.
Probably because it isn't a galactic sci fi, it's based on the real world and only needed it for some crazy stunts. The PT was ambitious and in order to achieve its goal couldn't rely purely on the real world as a backdrop.
Not talking about the stunts and all that crap but about the actual robots and the sci-fi elements.
These are in a bright environment and look much better than any robot in the Matrix.
Darkness definitely helps, yeah. I agree with anons that George went overboard with the CGI, but some scenes like the pod race definitely looked great for 1999.
The issue is that the brighter your scene is, the more apparent the CG will be.
shot on film and there's less cgi in general. revenge of the sith is still the best looking star wars film idc if it looks like le video game it's the closest any sound film has ever gotten to reaching the level of griffith
the levels of delusion that prequeltrannies go to lmao. it's not even a funny meme anymore because these people actually believe them
Keep seething. I'm glad George raped your childhood ;^)
we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you :^)
name one sound film released after 1932 that's closer than revenge of the sith to reaching griffith's level
thats a very bold statement anonymous and one you should expand on.
This is what Phantom menace actually looks like. All the other webms in the thread are based on modern releases which use the studio films that were perfectly preserved and denoised alongside manual color grading.
This is more in line with what you would've seen in cinema.
VGH, so much SOVL
more?
Why did people say that their romance was "creepy"?
She's 5 years older. That's, like, nothing.
In 10 years she'll be 24 and he's 19. "Wooooah pedophilia!"
Because there's no reason a teen should have a crush on a prepubescent child
he's a person, and his name is anakin
The reason for romance is to pairbond and make babies, but I'm sure you know that already.
Also she didn't have a crush on him. They had one cute little talk and he gave her the souvenir and then she never saw him again until AOTC
First of all there's no romance in ep. 1
And you're right nothing wrong with a 19-25 m-f couple especially in a galaxy where by age of 100 they're the equivalent of our age 60 due to advanced medicine.
Anyway Lucas presents every single teenage girl in SW as obsessed with little boys and always taking care of them , especially in Clone Wars.
I had similar experiences when I was in that age range with some teenage girls so it's not unrealistic.
Were their ages mentioned in the movies, or was it only in the side materials? Because I haven't seen them in a very long time, but back then I felt that it was at least a 10 year age difference, if not more.
the time skip is only implied. anakin got much older, but everyone else only got a little older, similar to flora cameron in the birth of a nation
ara ara
Why is there a Mexico filter on Naboo?
Originally the parade took place during sunset, this was changed for some reason in all home media versions
Thank God
The prequel trilogy were terribly written movies, but I'll be fricked in the ass before I pretend they didn't have amazing world building. Every fricking shot shows a wonderous setting that would be fantastic to explore. The new alien species were rad as frick. The characters were lame but their designs were cool. They were bad movies, but I'm not gonna sit here and pretend the literal one aspect they did right wasn't knocked the frick out of the park.
There's a lot of content in the expanded universe concerning the prequels era for a reason.
Compare it to the sequels era that seem to interest nobody despite the movies being much more recent
The comix leading up to the release of the movie were also keyed-know.
Aesthetically the ST is literally a lazy rehash of the OT. Whatever you think of the PT, it's just a boring choice
Blame man babies whining about the prequels not looking like the OT for like 15 years
Both McQuarrie and Chiang's aesthetics were good, the real issue is that the ST was a rehash in more than just looks.
I can still go back and watch TPM today as a 30-something and enjoy it. The CGI is dated, but the film still looks mostly great. It's like a 2-hour toy commercial, but for the coolest fricking toys ever. The other prequels bore me to death and look a lot worse, though they do have some inspired locales.
>"Import Tariffs? Internal politics? Midichlorians? This is too confusing, I want innocent, childlike whimsy!"
>"No, not like that! Gimme lightsaber duels!"
>"No, George Lucas killed my Star Wars!!!!!"
And that's why movies are made for manchildren now."
OTcels need not reply ITT
>literally a r*ddit meme
yep, that's a prequels thread
Silly op, there will be lots of prequels that kill a beloved series.
a r*ddit meme
Check who you reply to, autist.
Had no idea about that change. Interesting.
AOTChads rise up
I don't think so.
>is.. IS THAT CGI?? OHMYGOD SAVE ME STAN WINSTON!!!
Are you the homosexual spammer from the SW general, the disney fan? Must be.
>flat lighting
>taking a century to walk past a desk
>Palpatine's face clipping on the lamp (that's also moving around for no reason)
>floor snapping to the staircase at the end
Yep, it's kino
Looks beautiful. Temple conveys a sense of grandeur.
i want to have sex with natalie portman
We know Terrence Stamp.
There's a difference between scanning the studio films which were used to master the theatrical films and then amateurs merely scanning the theatrical films which were poorly preserved and then usually just one of them anyway.. vs multiple studio backups and keeping the best frames.
Defend this.
What about it?
this is the first digital explosion
they were never used before, because they looked like ass
nobody could get it right, so nobody used them
explosions were always still practical
until this
the first digital explosion
The moment cinema died.
>practical vs digital is what ruined movies
I hate lucas even more now
frick the 3 MB limit
The pod race was kino and one of my favorite sequences in the prequels. And the game was fun.
The pod race is ALMOST great, but in the final sum it is spoiled by being centred on a child actor and his bad delivery of badly written lines. You also get close-ups of some badly designed alien racers like the Maggie Gylenhaal alien. Lucas is always sabotaging himself in the prequels: whenever he has something good, he juxtaposes it with something shit. This tendency is seen everywhere. He won't let you enjoy the final duel with Darth Maul on its own, he has to intercut it with Jar Jar slapstick scenes.
the problem with the pod race is that it follows the 180 degree rule, so you don't get a full scope of the race and it feels stale
i want to have sex with natalie portman
same
That's keira knightley, you just got decoyed
>That's keira knightley
same thing
you can easily tell them apart
Loyal to her Queen until the end
No amount of grain and color correction can compensate for the most dull, unexciting, robotic, soulless film ever made.
how the frick can you call phantom menace soulless. shut up moron
Easy: it lacks soul, human emotion, spark of life. Everything is fake, devoid of soul (soulless), sterile, dull, robotic.
Padme is the single most boring character in all of fiction. It's like she is on sedatives in this film.
Such a midwit take
>midwit
>take
Such a reddit post.
Back to the RLM subreddit
They're a marvel drone, you don't have to care about their worthless opinion
jar jar binks is funny
he is in the german dub
Based. Even Clones is more soulful than this trash.
It's easy to understand why: if you know a thing or two about George Lucas, you would know, that he is genuinely autistic and does not comprehend human emotions. Add on top of that that he is not an actors director (been known since THX 1138), he is absolutely dreadful at writing dialogues (been known since American Graffiti and Star Wars 1977, both of which had to be rewritten for better dialogue by other people), and he is a mediocre director. He was a better editor and producer, than he was a director. This is what you get with the prequels, where he didn't account for his shortcomings, and did everything by himself.
There is a much higher likelihood that you are autistic than George is
No, just watch the behind the scenes and read the interviews.
Obsessing over some media figure is a symptom of autism there bud
>autism
>“absorption in self-centered subjective mental activity,”
yes, and?
its just funny that you are calling him autistic because you figured it out after you watched every documentary about him
That was my first reply in your chain.
I'm a lover of wisdom, can you reveal to me your method of instantly identifying someone as autistic without studying his work or past activity?
if you sound like a pedantic homosexual like you do right now then you are probably autistic
You sire, are a mentally moron.
>Jar-Jar is bad because he's annoying and useless and a comic relief!
>haha C3P0 my beloved
Shut up boomer
have people finally caught on to the fact that The Phantom Menace is the best of the prequels?
it's the best because I saw it as a child just before Clones was released
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>Palpatine is behind everything, don't trust him
*stares into you soul*
*double checks if her speeder is really locked*
>right eye closes
>left eye just twitches slightly
what did she mean by this?
she's on the run and has to sleep with one eye open
I recommend checking out the color corrected version, looks a lot better without the yellowish/greenish tint
I just temporary change my display settings to correct for it
well that works too
First one is obviously wrong.
The second is pretty much whitepoint d65, either studio source or someone smart enough color corrected it to good references.
sauce?
You can get it from
https://forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com/
You’ll need to register first, here’s the invitation code
OT-21wceCpKFdYgD1FgHEkjSw4K77-80
From there you’ll find it from the ”dr. dre 4k99 color corrected” thread or whatever the thread’s name was
Cheers mate!
she's signaling to me that she wants sex
Thank God.
Padme was waifu in the first 2 prequels
>people crying about star wars movies
>people not crying how there will never be another movie like dunston checks in
Maybe.
>There will never be another movie like The Phantom Menace
Really tho?