>There's no such thing as a chemical imbalance

>There's no such thing as a chemical imbalance

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how does he think the brain works? magic?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hi rabbi

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if you understand how the brain works you're a israelite
        Please stay a virgin forever

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >le chemical imbalance is real in my mind!
          what chemicals, specifically?
          explain in detail

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Our moods are controlled by hormones. Pills aren't the way to fix it though.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I understand how the brain works
          please share the knowledge because no one else really does

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know he's doing a hell of a lot better than most of us are

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Very true, underrated take there and also Tom has a good side to him all things considered, see clip.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the only thing I hate more than lawyers and celebrities, are of course paparazzi

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what the frick do you have to do with either

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Estranged from two ex-wives and four kids
        Better.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's four more children than anyone here tbh

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's just because he's rich

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he's right though. therapy is a scam, they want you to keep coming back and yo keep buying pills for big pharma

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cognitive behavioral therapy has pretty measurable results. Lots of people dismiss it because they’re too stupid to understand it, and just imagine the tropes of psychiatry: a middle aged woman sitting on a couch talking about her childhood looking for someone to blame for why she’s a shrill b***h.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          CBT is great, and not just because it also stands for wiener-&-Ball-Torture.
          It usually just amounts to mindfulness and good habits coaching, and the outcomes are incredibly good. Which is funny because it validates both sides, the people who are pro therapy and the people who are anti therapy but pro "lifestyle changes/just go to the gym". It's Therapy that teaches you lifestyle changes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So the therapist is just a life coach in that scenario?
            >been making you bed hm?
            >been clamping down on the daily 5 hours of youtube use hm?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              In a sense, sure. But there’s an important distinction in that the therapist (or a good one anyway) is going to be approaching things from a medical and scientific perspective.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              More or less, yeah.
              >you have issues with depression
              >you struggle to initialize anything (laying in bed for days, ect)
              >next time you notice a behavior like that, mark it, and have a set response
              >"ive been laying in bed all day, I should get up and shower, then make the bed"
              >this will help get you started
              It's usually simple stuff, people respond to simple queues to begin altering behavior. Teaching people to be mindful of them and "prescribing" behaviors is an effective way to help often times.

              >it just amounts to mindfulness and good habit coaching
              Yea, and I don’t think that’s a bad thing. Someone else said it itt but we just know frick all about human behavior at this stage, so it comes from an honest understanding of the current state of the science. I’d compare it to a doctor treating patients before they knew anything about germs.
              >well I’ve been paying really close attention to the my habits and actions before/during/after I’m treating patients
              >and for whatever reason when I take time to take a bath and clean myself up before going into surgery… it helps patient outcomes and lessens the chance of infection
              >so I’m gonna try to do that more, and keep being mindful of the results
              That’s just a very rough example, bit I think it gets what I’m going for across

              Totally agree. CBT is great because it is intuitive, and easily actionable. Just because something its conceptually simple doesn't mean it's not valuable. In theory lifting weights and planning progressive overload is simple but professional guidance can really help people who are starting from zero. Same principle.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it just amounts to mindfulness and good habit coaching
            Yea, and I don’t think that’s a bad thing. Someone else said it itt but we just know frick all about human behavior at this stage, so it comes from an honest understanding of the current state of the science. I’d compare it to a doctor treating patients before they knew anything about germs.
            >well I’ve been paying really close attention to the my habits and actions before/during/after I’m treating patients
            >and for whatever reason when I take time to take a bath and clean myself up before going into surgery… it helps patient outcomes and lessens the chance of infection
            >so I’m gonna try to do that more, and keep being mindful of the results
            That’s just a very rough example, bit I think it gets what I’m going for across

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Therapy and medication are two different things.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Neither works, but they give you both at the same time so that you can't tell which one isn't working

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's still a scam tho. I'm not saying some forms of therapy don't work, they do, but "therapy" is a mischaracterization of what's taking place there.
          I unironically think most psychologists are either idiots, or narcissists themselves, just totally oblivious and weak willed narcissists.
          >my job is to identify "problem people" and "help" them
          Lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      your chemistry imbalances when you make poor health and life choices in response to fleeting emotions
      schizophrenia is different but who's to say schizogays shouldn't be able to live free

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Moshe! Moshe! You're being glib.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, ghosts. I'm serious. They're called thetans and they're alien ghosts that drain your life force. To remove them, you have to pay a trained scientologist called an auditor.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yea but when you level up enough you can fight them directly, which is what youre purposefully leaving out to be funny. Just thought id include all the facts!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like we got ourselves an SP.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      electricity

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > just take these pills, you have to do it forever. Also tell a of your problems to this talmudic trained “doctor” who will encourage divorce and hedonism

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The pills ARE useful though, in several ways. The issue imo is that they’re habitually overused, and function as a crutch for people who can’t/wont make long term changes, which leads to disaster quite a bit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yep. If I go to the doctor with a sprained ankle and he puts me in a full body cast, it's going to make my problems multiply instead of get better.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s more like going to the doctor getting with a sprained ankle and him giving you crutches. And then when your ankle is healed you tells you to use them forever because there a chance it may hurt again. Then you develop a physical dependence for it and a shoulder issues.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The pills ARE useful though, in several ways.

          https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/21/well/antidepressants-ssri-effectiveness.html

          https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/jul/no-evidence-depression-caused-low-serotonin-levels-finds-comprehensive-review

          https://www.businessinsider.com/ssris-mark-horowitz-antidepressants-serotonin-chemical-imbalance-false-2022-9?op=1

          I took a large dose of them for about a decade (200mg Zoloft) and the only effect I found was that withdrawal made me emotionally unstable for a while. Their effect is negligible and I feel the same now as when I was taking them, the instability passed and only really lasted for a week.

          They're bullshit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how do you think it works? the brain is a biological organ. anything can be framed as a "chemical imbalance". angry? sad? you have a chemical imbalance. after all, any change in mental state is ultimately the result of a biochemical process.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People on Cinemaphile seem to think that means that anything the brain does is valid since the normal stuff is chemicals too. Theres lots of variety of heartrates and blood pressures, but severe arythmia needs medical intervention. Same when the brain starts showing hallucinations or extreme depression or OCD or what have you. There's a line between sort of suboptimal or unusual function and severe dysfunction. Where that line is exactly should be the point of discussion, not whether that line exists.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i don't disagree, but it's very easy for psychiatrists to pathologize any atypical behavior and mental states, & with the $ the pharmaceutical industry rakes in, there's certainly a financial incentive for doing so.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm with you, but we don't treat any other condition as "imbalance"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Correct, and that's not what doctors call it. We don't treat people for
            >bad tickers
            Either, we treat them for heart disease. Colloquial terms shouldn't color your view of a medical diagnosis.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >how does he think the brain works? magic?
      lol he is absolutely right. the "chemical imbalance" is literally an outdated theory.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But he's right. At the time there was no proof of a chemical imbalance and there still isn't. Google it. You'll find bundles of recent articles conceding the same thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are you moronic?
      the brain works through chemical imbalance?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bro what? He’s saying the brain obviously works through biochemical processes. I’m nta but I’d imagine the next logical step would be to point out that some people are born with imperfect corneas causing nearsightedness, some people are born with birth defects that cause mobility issues… so it would stand to reason that some people are born with imperfect biochemistry in their brain.
        >inb4 oh so you think big pharma is perfect?!?! You think pills are always good!?!
        I didn’t say that, anon didn’t say that, and the thread consensus seems to be that modern pills are over-used and overprescribed to the point of harm… but that doesn’t mean we should disregard an entire model of reality. You can even go as far as to acknowledge we’re now finding issues with the serotonin model of the brain and may know less than the little we thought we did know… but that modern medicine can still do more good than harm when used intelligently in some cases.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so it would stand to reason that some people are born with imperfect biochemistry in their brain.
          no it wouldn't and even if it would we're talking about depression which you aren't born with
          and no it also wouldn't stand to reason that you can just randomly become chemically imbalanced
          sure you can muse about it but there's no reason to believe it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >surely some people somewhere are born with imperfect brain biochemistry, since the brain is an incredibly complex chemical organ, the same way any other organ or body part can be formed imperfectly, and even be passed down genetically
            >nooo! They’re not, because… well they’re just not.. it wouldn’t stand to reason. No u.
            Ok. Good point. Very well explained. You’re an excellent communicator anon.
            >you’re talking about depression
            No. I’m talking about mental health and illness broadly. Maybe you’re honing in on depression because you think your point is strongest there and want to win an e-debate. But even then, what you’re saying isn’t true
            >randomly become imbalanced
            No one suggested that. In fact, most mental health issues have pretty high heritability. Genetic and environmental factors both influence outcomes, pretty much exactly as one would expect. People used to be overly simplistic with shit like “we just need to track down the alcoholism gene and no one will be an alcoholic anymore!” When in reality it’s probably more like a confluence of many overlapping genes and traits, mixed with environmental interactions that make an outcome more or less likely.
            >awww shucks, doctors had the wrong model for brain chemistry.. that means they’re all quacks man, and like nothing is real man. And like you can’t trust anything they say, none of the evidence means anything, and like, they were wrong about that so I can believe whatever I want. None of the data they ever collected means anything now, and like, a model can never be adjusted or improved… it’s just 100% right or 100% wrong.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >noooo!!! You’re defending them!!! You’re PRO-psychiatry!!!!! You’re PRO everything psychiatry!!! You’re SO for it all!!! You’re everything I hate!!!! The boogeyman under the bed!!!
              I already inb4’d this. And I qualified my statement a million different ways. Were you not talking to me?

              your mistake is not realizing that the burden of proof is on psychiatrists regarding "imperfect brain biochemistry"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and no it also wouldn't stand to reason that you can just randomly become chemically imbalanced
            lol why the hell not? Diabetes happens when your body doesn't process a chemical correctly. Why couldn't a person's brain fail to process certain chemicals correctly? Why wouldn't the brain be susceptible to malfunction like every other organ?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          psychiatry-defenders always have to resort to extremely rare outliers to justify its existence, in this case for example someone who is so clinically depressed in such a way that they basically don't respond to impulses or emotions, usually these cases don't respond to medication either, so it must be "genetic".. more likely they have some kind of trauma that needs to be resolved, or their upbringing was never started like a borderline feral child. this also counts for schizophrenics (the usual argument), dysfunctional schizophrenics who need medication typically have a hard-drug history that exacerbated their symptoms.

          there is no correct "balance" of dopamine and serotonin, therefore there is no imbalance either, they actually didn't even have a method for observing serotonin in the brain until like 3 years ago, when they also did a massive study on all the studies before and found there is no connection between serotonin and depression.
          infact a lot of people with depression and anxiety, autism, have high serotonin in their gut, there are theories on serotonin really being a kind of stress hormone, they just don't know.
          something like 90% of americans believe "depression is a deficiency in serotonin" as if happiness/feeling good is simply something physical that you can put in your body. the entire premise is demented, insane, and i lose faith in humanity seeing people still fall for this extremely blatant lie still propagated by a trillion dollar industry. psychology and psychiatry have nothing to do with neurology, it has no scientific basis, its as evidence based as a gypsy fortune teller or african warlock

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >noooo!!! You’re defending them!!! You’re PRO-psychiatry!!!!! You’re PRO everything psychiatry!!! You’re SO for it all!!! You’re everything I hate!!!! The boogeyman under the bed!!!
            I already inb4’d this. And I qualified my statement a million different ways. Were you not talking to me?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              if you excuse the idea of genetic inheritability of serotonin imbalances and "brain profiles" in the context of things like depression and anxiety, and say psychiatry shouldn't be disregarded and basically done away with entirely because of how wrong they were then you are pretty much defending it
              you have this misconception that psychiatry knows something about the brain, when it simply doesn't, you forget how these labels of mental illness are extremely subjective and require extreme contexts that the mental health industry conveniently swipes under the rug or selectively picks to suit their results
              the reason psychiatry fails is because its nothing but a marketing mechanism that makes trillions through its medication that don't cure the made up illnesses
              it doesn't actually aim to better society, it actively denies the inherently harmful state of society and promotes bad culture, bad politics, bad lifestyles
              the recent developments in CBT and "mindfulness" are not even progress in psychiatry, they are simply tiny steps back to how people used to have common sense and wisdom that you used to get from your grandpa or priest or mentor
              for like 100 years psychiatry has simply been trying to give scientific credibility to itself after evolving from obsession with wieners and turds and "dream analysis" and mind manipulation, and it achieved nothing besides profit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Increasing Serotonin is not a good thing their whole theory around it is so wrong it would be funny if only they hadn't stuck to it and everyone had believed them for so long

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I already inb4’d this.
              Shut the frick up homosexual. You can't play that game and not be a disingenuous c**t.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              respond to this

              why do people get depressed when a loved one dies? before they had no chemical imbalance and then they suddenly develop one? based on cognitive stimuli? how about some cognitive stimulus that does undo the imbalance?

              plox

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >as if happiness/feeling good is simply something physical that you can put in your body
            uh it is, anon
            it's called cocaine

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >an entire model of reality
          >entirely based on big pharma/big psychology's "consensus"
          Fricking midwits

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you're depressed because your soul is depressed
          the mind is not the brain

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thats weird because whenever a person's brain shuts down their mind also shuts down 100% of the time, almost like they're linked in some way

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes because they become untethered from their puppet. just because you crush your car and can't drive on the highway anymore doesnt mean you killed the person inside

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Heavy drugs shut down most of the brain except for the lizard brain part that control your vitals. However the people afflicted by this experience vivid hallucinations and even "entities" with similar characteristics. The "mind" can experience beyond the brain. This has been confirmed by the glowies themselves and every drug addict ever.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This dude actually thinks consciousness is a magic spell

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >he thinks consciousness is a series of chemical reactions
              >he thinks if you take enough pills you get consciousness

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                most peoples first got consciousness from reading the Bible

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The will of God.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SPACE magic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why do people get depressed when a loved one dies? before they had no chemical imbalance and then they suddenly develop one? based on cognitive stimuli? how about some cognitive stimulus that does undo the imbalance?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are a thousand diagnosable conditions that result from organs not functioning correctly but apparently Cinemaphile thinks your brain not functioning correctly is a slight against God or something and mental illness is a myth

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What and you think that brain is just some meat In a bucket of water with a few chemicals sprinkled in that are just randomly in the right or wrong ratios? But you can fix it with a pill that just has one chemical in it?

        Honestly magic would be better than your understanding

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so many of these replies have to be fake

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We mocked him, but current year science says he was right. Depression isn't real. Everyone who has it has an attitude problem. Of course it doesn't *feel* like that is what is happening. It will never *feel* like that is what is happening. You'll always feel like its out of your control if you tell yourself it is out of your control and that's what depressed subhumans do. Beating addiction and obesity are also out of your control supposedly, yet people do it. Fricking failures just want an excuse to stay miserable.

      Shat I just said isn't capable of being a closed minded comment either. It is, effectively, the only way someone with depression who actually wants it gone can approach the problem. If you don't believe anything can be done to fix them problem, then have a nice day. Either way, the faulty nature of the depressiontard is righteously disposed of and our world gets a little brighter.

      And if I ever found out this comment pushed a depressiontard into commiting suicide I would say 'good riddance'. You refused to fight it. I won't shed a tear. It doesn't make sense to give in even if you couldn't actually do anything about it, let alone the more we research it and it turns out it's just a giant con based on gaslighting and exaggerated internalized melodrama.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Depression is kinda two separate things, one is just a lack of energy due to ill health or bad lifestyle and it only stays around so long as you are sick.

        The other side of it is the doomer mentality

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even if you reduce the function of the brain to chemical reactions, the undeniable truth is that the brain is responsive to the environment it is in. Different stimuli will cause the body to produce chemicals that effect the brain at different levels. Stress, diet, exercise and really all activity will impact the chemicals impacting the brain.
      To classify depression as a chemical imbalance may be a true statement, but what you are really saying is that a chemical imbalance is the cause of the depression, and therefore the solution is to intervene at a chemical level.
      In reality the chemical imbalance is moat likely itself a symptom of some kind of disfunction in the persons life, and therefore the solution should be address that disfunction rather than just treat the symptom.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He believes depression is caused by the haunting souls of slaughtered aliens from another galaxy that inhabit a person's soul

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Google "The serotonin theory of depression: a systematic umbrella review of the evidence", and also "Anatomy of an epidemic"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you think the brain works? Evil spirits completely invisible to all senses just randomly decide to make your brain ill? And they don’t even have a reason to do it. You can’t appease them. You just have to do drugs, if you are one of the unfortunate people bewitched by them?

      What he believes is rational. What chemical-imbalance-gays believe is literally more irrational than spirits and demons, because they are just the personification of real problems.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tom was proven right last year you know?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nooooooo just take le meds goy
    He was right

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Moshe! Moshe! You're being glib.

      Cruise was always right.

      >Oy vay, to be thinking such a thing. Here now, be taking this tablet we made up that is many shekels that will cause things to happen to fix the chemicals, yes it will definitely be fixing you. Also tablet may be making you fat, giving you constant diarrhea, giving you a heart attack and stoping your dick from ever being working but it will indeed be fixing that chemical imbalance. What? Why can't we just be giving you the chemical you are needing instead of the tablet? Don't be silly goyim that is impossible.

      Based Cruise

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well if meds are proper nutrition, then he's dead wrong. But sure, when you paint it strictly as a "chemical imbalances don't exist" vs "a pill solves all mental issues" it's better to side with Big Box Office Tom.

      If someone has a poor diet, their nutrients/electrolytes are lacking, creating an imbalance of the proper chemicals needed to function at a cellular level. Depression, schizophrenia, and many other conditions can all be fixed by correcting the gut biome which feeds the brain and can correct lots of mental illness.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every system in your body and the interactions between them are so complex that the only reasonable way to have everything operate properly is with nutrition as you say, a pill in almost all cases is either a cheese on a single marker that fixes nothing like statins or otherwise it changes one thing and causes a cascade other unwanted changes in other systems

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this guy thinks nutrition does something. try eating garbage food for a year, nothing will happen

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >try eating garbage food for a year, nothing will happen
            are you moronic?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's true I exercised and got sunlight and ate cooked meals with vegetables for a good 3-4 years in my twenties and felt like trash about as much as I do now as a shutin neet glutton.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I exercised and got sunlight and ate cooked meals with vegetables for a good 3-4 years
                I don't believe you
                >and felt like trash about as much as I do now
                I don't believe you. And if you are telling the truth, then it's obvious that something other than physical health was affecting you in your twenties.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No exercise and healthy eating just really don't do much for you, nothing really does much of anything at all, normalgays just say that shit does things because they can't handle not having control.

                not hearing anything about mental illness. Sounds like it cured you of everything except being a moron.

                I have never been diagnosed, chud

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >exercise and healthy eating just really don't do much for you
                This is so wrong, these are the most powerful things to improve your quality of life mostly the diet though and a little physical activity is plenty to promote health.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The most important things to improve my life would be a bottle of adderall and a cute teenaged fricktoy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you would be wrong

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not hearing anything about mental illness. Sounds like it cured you of everything except being a moron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you had exercised for a single day in your life you would know that's wrong
                t. guy who used to be depressed and always thought the people saying 'just exercise bro' were wrong until I actually tried it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It helps til something traumatizing happens. If everything is going alright/normal then yes exercise elevates mood.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you think this you don't know what good food is in the first place.

            Eat KFC for a day you will feel like shit

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    id say its up for debate, there's many studies validating tom's statemenet but also many promoting the opposite

    its possible anti depressants specifically have no more than a placebo effect when it comes to treating depression

    i say this as someone on antidepressants

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He talked in extremes, in the context of allopathic medicine's MO to over-correct (or over-corrupt) the body. Plus many chronic illnesses didn't exist decades ago until increased schemes of "childhood vaccination" (toxic shit like aluminum are used as adjuvant.) Now people are socialized to be proud of "autism" instead of investigating how it came about.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't it like increase suicidal thoughts sometimes? Literally just a random mind altering drug, completely random what it does to your mental wellbeing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but also many promoting the opposite
      Post one study showing even so much as a correlation that supports the chemical imbalance myth. You wont be able to because it doesn't exist.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i'm on drugs
      no offense, but opinion disregarded

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I studied your mom.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Studies" don't mean anything. That's like saying "well there are people claiming this and people also claiming the opposite"
      Its never been easier to manufacture the results you want for any social science and increasingly for "hard" sciences

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tell that to my test levels Tom.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tom is like 60 and hasn't aged a day, still jumping out of airplanes. Maybe he knows what he's talking about.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hasn't aged a day
      You're an idiot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Now post yourself for comparison

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what happened in 2020
        did the coogay-53 psyop stress him out to the point of breaking

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        HGH made his nose grow

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My wife is a Clinical Neuropsychologist, and the biggest thing I've learned after 7 years of her med school progression is most therapists and psychologists do not use evidence based therapies and treatments. A ton of therapists still believe fricking Freud.
    Always be skeptical of therapists and psychologists. Psychiatrists are slightly better, they had to have more education, but they are pill happy and most psych meds come with lots of side effects.
    When it comes to therapy, it can be effective, particularly Cognative Behavioral Therapy, but it's been shown relationship with the therapist is more important than methodology, showing it's all sorta bunk hokum.
    Thank God my wife is more focused on testing neuro-cognative impairment, like post stroke patients, or people with dementia and brain injuries. That shit is way less subjective.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All that said, the fact that the brain is such a developmental black box makes any and all treatment trial and error. When I say no two are the same, there are general structures that contain certain functions, but neuroplastocity is CRAZY. Kids with extremely bad/terminal seizures from one side of the brain can have hemispherectomies (they literally chop out AN ENTIRE HEMISPHERE) and their other half will pick up the slack and they can live normal lives with only mild impairment. The amount of variance basically makes it pointless to try and ascribe hard and fast rules of Neuropathy and resulting psychology.
      Trying to diagnose mental issues based on interviews and non invasive testing is like asking a mechanic to diagnose your cars problem without a diagnostic or telling them the make or model, just a vague description of a knocking noise and less acceleration than you'd like in 3rd gear.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >all that said.
        Yes, all that. Shut the frick up.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          did he strike a nerve?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Kids with extremely bad/terminal seizures from one side of the brain can have hemispherectomies (they literally chop out AN ENTIRE HEMISPHERE) and their other half will pick up the slack and they can live normal lives with only mild impairment.
        It's not that crazy. The human body has two of most of its major organs specifically so it can lose one and keep functioning.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's impressive given how neuroplasticity declines with age, hell a minor TBI can radically alter an adults cognition and quality of life. it really shows how impressive the human developmental cycle is. You can overcome almost anything when you're young and made of rubber.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm gonna go get some of that CBT myself I reckon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every time I read about CBT it just sounds like talk therapy with some mumbo jumbo words tacked on, and otherwise really obvious interventions

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sometimes the things they say is obvious, but sometimes you need to be reminded of it or even just told by another person because you don't believe yourself. I get like that sometimes. I need to be reminded that I have good qualities because if I sit by myself too long, I just constantly beat the shit out of myself mentally.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Freud is actually leagues more advanced than the majority of CBT based therapies. I know it hurts to hear but it's true.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This
        t. 6/7 years in CBT and I had more progress when I just decided to read Freud and Jung myself in my own time. Modern

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's dangerous how pervasive freudianism and freud-y bullshit is in the mainstream. You look at psychoanalyzing homosexuals here on Cinemaphile and they always go right for the jugular with some freudian take. Which to me always comes across as a sinister kind of psychoanalysis. Where the goal isn't
      >"What's wrong and how can we help you solve it"
      but rather
      >What's wrong and how can I make you feel shame and guilt and debasement for it
      It predates it, but it has a clear link into maoist struggle sessions and Synanon's self-criticism sessions and similar shame-sessions.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wow a israelite came up with another way to use magic words to hurt people, what a surprise

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You do know psychology is all based on older occult writings and Freud got pissed at Jung for pointing this out

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but they are pill happy and most psych meds come with lots of side effects.
      Man if you think that's bad whatever you do do not look into the controversy over histamine blockade related to the serotonin hypothesis and why serotonin became the primary axis of modification for behavioral dysregulation in the first place.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        QRD?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Freud didn't like making assumptions and wanted to try to help the patient figure it out himself. The people who try to diagnose your problems based on what they personally think are even worse

      • 3 weeks ago
        THE_JEWS_KILLED_JESUS CHRIST

        >Freud didn't like making assumptions

        You cannot be serious. His entire theory of transference is based on him ASSUMING rich Viennese weren't abusing their daughters.

        How else are we supposed to cope with the shit society boomers made. There is no "hopeful future" or "positive environment"

        >There is no "hopeful future" or "positive environment"
        Yeah. For a lot of us, life just keeps getting worse every year. Every year, fewer white faces, fewer smiles, less politeness. More nigs, more spics, more crime. Everyone is fat. Everyone. Everyone has stupid tattoos and is stupid and wants to be even stupider while they listen to the world's worst music made by stupid people.

        Yea, they make you take a deep dive into the innermost pits of your psyche. And your ego is removed from the equation, which usually holds you back from ever diving that deep to protect itself.

        On a day to day basis, it feels like I was always lying to myself. But you can't bullshit yourself on psychedelics. They force you to confront your anxieties head on, and your sense of time is completely out the window so it can literally feel like you're just stuck in your own dimension for years before you come back.

        So it's like cramming a frickton of therapy into one single sitting. Except that unlike a therapist, you can't lie, or hold back out of fear of being judged.

        From time to time I still get some sad episodes of self doubt and anxieties but I'm sure that's normal. I LOVE myself now, like genuinely. I love who I am, and the people closest to me. I never in my life prior was able to say that. So I'm always happy to know that no matter how sad I may get, I never get to lows where I think I'm undeserving of love and happiness.

        I trip maybe once or twice a year now, in moderate doses. They're usually meditative in nature, accompanied by music I feel a meaningful relation to.

        [...]

        Unironically, yeah. I'm not a spiritual person really but that intertwining with the universe as a formless entity was humbling. When you realize that these kinds of drugs were commonplace in societies around the world before prudes prohibited them, it makes you realize modern society really is missing that "spiritual" aspect that may be more important for mental health than we realized.

        Doesn't mean you have to go to start worshiping gods or reading scriptures. But there's definitely something to getting "divine revelations" from mind altering experiences.

        >I love who I am, and the people closest to me. I never in my life prior was able to say that.

        IKTF anon. The not being able to say that part.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >evidence based
      as if more than 1% of people who call themselves psychologists are even capable of assessing evidence.
      the freudian shit is probably far more correct than whatever pop psych slop gets printed today because back then college was something you did only if you were actually smart.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why does every psychologist admit that dark tetrad traits exist on a spectrum, but then speak about people high in dark traits as if they're another species irreconcilable human? It makes me think they earnestly believe there's nothing dark inside of them. Having a hard time articulating it, but I find the whole "he's a narcissist" side of psychology extremely shallow and self serving, ironically.
        Its always other people who are narcissistic, isn't it, never ourselves. They should speak about these things as traits everyone possesses with awareness and restraint being the differentiator, not innateness.
        I've seen so many videos of some dumb b***h talking about "narcissists" as if she's never done anything callous or bitter and daring to call herself a "professional"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think psych is a pseudoscience largely rooted in sadism and projection. There are some psychologists with realistic views of human nature and genuine empathy for all people. But most of them seem to categorize people far too rigidly, excuse themselves or their patient, and proceed from there. Plus it's a non empirical science in terms of hard material evidence. 99% of psychology is applying loose categories defined by behavioral patterns on to people who appear to exhibit those patterns based on a tiny sample of their overall behavioral spectrum. Whatever is most problematic stands out, and that's how they'll define the person. If a woman spends 90% of her day in a stable mood and 10% has an explosive fit of rage, she will be labeled as someone with intermittent explosive disorder. Its a very reductive, bullshit "science."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your "wife" is conducting a double blind study on you, the world's gayest moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The elites really do view you like pic related btw.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's dangerous how pervasive freudianism and freud-y bullshit is in the mainstream. You look at psychoanalyzing homosexuals here on Cinemaphile and they always go right for the jugular with some freudian take. Which to me always comes across as a sinister kind of psychoanalysis. Where the goal isn't
      >"What's wrong and how can we help you solve it"
      but rather
      >What's wrong and how can I make you feel shame and guilt and debasement for it
      It predates it, but it has a clear link into maoist struggle sessions and Synanon's self-criticism sessions and similar shame-sessions.

      freud was right about most things, not that you would know as you did not read him. just because some morons argue with you doesn't mean anything

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it seems like the people, the kids, who need therapy are asking for lifecoaches or representatives to tell someone to frick off from their lives. its so sad that therapy is their main lifeline, and pills and coping method(thats okay) is the best they are going to get when they live with abusive parents/people.

      it all comes down to that with tom's arguments really. people are in a position, sometimes self-imposed, where they let some other moron tell them how not to fix their chronic problems.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Effective therapy is literally just having a friend willing to listen to your bullshit. Some people just have to pay for it if they surround themselves with shitty people

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      meanwhile half of the girls i frick scream daddy but yeah frued was wrong, yeah hookay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >girls copy what they see in media
        Woah wow guess they all actually want to frick their parents

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cbt just makes good sense

      it reflects stoic philosophy where you look to the true nature of things

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    YOU'RE GLIB

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I started taking Prozac and it's helped me with anxiety and depression

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      haha you need a manufactured drug to feel normal

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Much like the dopamine hit you get from trolling I guess.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you need anxiety and depression to grow.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe your life should depress you
      I don't take painkillers so I can leave my hand on the stove longer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah don't listen to the anons saying that you should never take meds ever. Even if you just need them to get out of a rut it can be worth it. I would get multiple hours of exercise a day and still would have anxiety

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know about 20 people that say the same thing. They're all still always too depressed to do anything, ever. Just like they were before they took Prozac.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Correct

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mentally ill people most definitely exist. I have a schizophrenic parent and it's quite clear when they're having a psychotic episode. It's hard for normies to wrap their heads around. I can't blame them, it's hard to even explain what it's like to experience someone like that. I have 30+ years exp of dealing with a schizophrenic and it's hellish in way you can't imagine. How do you explain insanity? It literally doesn't make sense.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have actual schizophrenia and an "episode" is just acting out a mental blockage that the person refuses to process or incorporate "into reality" its essentially nothing more than a manchild throwing a fit and something is irreconcilably wrong with the development maybe even since childhood which is what turns the mole hill into a mountain over time and we just live with it and say "oops I had an episode again!" then you pop pills and nothing changes instead of resolving the arrested development or source of anxiety. So again, its just made up terms to define a stressful state that can be resolved by facing uncomfortable feelings. But instead of going through the uncomfortableness we take pills.
      T. actual schizo actually diagnosed, actually on meds and hates it. (beyond my control)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does it run in your family, or what have you ingested/been injected with?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There is some form of NEUROSIS that runs in my dads side that makes them all incredibly nervous and neroutic and that core root feeling may in fact be genetic. But what you do with that feeling, if you let it drive you crazy or form obsessions based on neaurotic tendencies, you can easily turn into or be classified as schizo when im really just a nervous and manic person with interest in religion and a heightened sense of empathy and justice. But my father, all his brothers, and his mother, are neurotic and turned to alchoholism or are on pills. I wouldnt say theyre all schizo though, that would be innacurate.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're completely fricking full of shit. Shut the frick up you well poisoning moron.

        [...]
        [...]
        Severe mental illness is definitely real and diagnosable, and often effectively treatable with meds or targeted behavioral therapy. The brain is another organ that can go wrong in the same way as any other part of the body. Sometimes it just needs lifestyle changes and physical therapy, sometimes you need to treat an actual mallady. The issue is mental problems can have a shitton of pathologies, so it's rare to find the actual root cause and treat it right away, especially since people with mental problems aren't exactly helpful and compliant with treatment a lot of the time (not exactly their fault usually).

        The meds don't do anything besides subdue the person. They just make the schizo feel lethargic so they can be dealt with more easily, the actual behaviors don't change.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah schizophrenia treatment has been really lacking, the use of anti-psychotics to treat Schizos made them calm (duh, it clamped down their dopamine hard) giving rise to the idea that schizophrenia was caused by excessive dopamine. But it's obviously much more complicated, because they still have hallucinations, they just can deal with them more calmly. There's really no effective way to eliminate hallucinations yet, so most treatment is focused on making sure they don't do wild shit in the throws of an episode, effectively just making them prisoners.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Im not full of shit, I literally agree with tom cruise that its not chemical imbalances. And elaborating what I believe my own illness is, makes me full of shit to you so that really means youre challenged and dont want to talk about it. You just said you think behavors wont change and im saying they do when the desire to change is there, it cannot be brought about by altering chemicals the desire of the human being must align with what is good. By being so short sigted and rude, not to mention discriminating toward an actual schizo, it is inorincally YOU who is "poisoning the well" butthole.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember this, when I was younger I would try to physically shake thoughts out of my head. Sometimes I couldn't control it. Unfortunately I passed it to my kid and he has a more difficult time controlling it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have actual schizophrenia and an "episode" is just acting out a mental blockage that the person refuses to process or incorporate "into reality" its essentially nothing more than a manchild throwing a fit and something is irreconcilably wrong with the development maybe even since childhood which is what turns the mole hill into a mountain over time and we just live with it and say "oops I had an episode again!" then you pop pills and nothing changes instead of resolving the arrested development or source of anxiety. So again, its just made up terms to define a stressful state that can be resolved by facing uncomfortable feelings. But instead of going through the uncomfortableness we take pills.
      T. actual schizo actually diagnosed, actually on meds and hates it. (beyond my control)

      All that said, the fact that the brain is such a developmental black box makes any and all treatment trial and error. When I say no two are the same, there are general structures that contain certain functions, but neuroplastocity is CRAZY. Kids with extremely bad/terminal seizures from one side of the brain can have hemispherectomies (they literally chop out AN ENTIRE HEMISPHERE) and their other half will pick up the slack and they can live normal lives with only mild impairment. The amount of variance basically makes it pointless to try and ascribe hard and fast rules of Neuropathy and resulting psychology.
      Trying to diagnose mental issues based on interviews and non invasive testing is like asking a mechanic to diagnose your cars problem without a diagnostic or telling them the make or model, just a vague description of a knocking noise and less acceleration than you'd like in 3rd gear.

      Severe mental illness is definitely real and diagnosable, and often effectively treatable with meds or targeted behavioral therapy. The brain is another organ that can go wrong in the same way as any other part of the body. Sometimes it just needs lifestyle changes and physical therapy, sometimes you need to treat an actual mallady. The issue is mental problems can have a shitton of pathologies, so it's rare to find the actual root cause and treat it right away, especially since people with mental problems aren't exactly helpful and compliant with treatment a lot of the time (not exactly their fault usually).

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I just said I have schizophrenia you colossal tard, why are you tagging me?
        >hey heres some information out a medical textbook just thought youd be happy to know 🙂
        thanks I know.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well you have schizophrenia, but you seem to be arguing that you don't actually you're just highly neurotic and you resent your treatment, and youd seem to prefer targeted therapy (addressing anxiety and whatnot as you said before). Does your treatment actually manage your symptoms?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, anti-psychotics make me relaxed but its the same state of relaxation I can achieve through dedication to have peace in my life. But that kind of peace is hard and takes effort, I am rather arguing its all states of mind, emotions, and failure to communicate. Not chemical imbalance, so I am agreeing with Tom.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I appreciate you spelling it put for me. It sounds like you prefer more of a cognitive behavioral therapy approach to medication, which is effective in some cases.
              I disagree with Tom though. ive got an uncle with very severe schizophrenia, like, full on tinfoil hat, thinks my cousin is a princess from Venus, FBI broadcasts secret messages to the fillings in his teeth schizo. He is a very kind and empathetic guy, but his brain just sends all the wrong chemicals to the wrong places so he sees and hears and processes some insane shit. It's not true for everyone, but there's plenty of people who simply have imbalances of neurotransmitters which make things go haywire. Doesn't mean a pill can magically fix the complex issue. Just means sometimes there are real chemical problems which can't be fixed by mindfulness and lifestyle changes, even if those can assist with coping.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >pill can’t fix a complex issue
                In the past I’ve compared it to a caveman trying to fix a car with the hood welded shut.
                >grug has no idea how machine works
                >but heug has noticed when we pour this black stuff from earth into this part of machine that sometimes banging noises stop
                >most times machine works longer
                >sometimes not
                >try and call grug in a month and we will see if things get better
                I think we agree mostly.. but I’ve been wondering lately.. will the science of psychology really meaningfully progress until we can start to predict human behavior on the small scale? Can it really be a science without a pretty accurate model of the brain and the computing power needed to test a hypothesis? If you’ve ever read asimovs foundation series.. is psychohistory even possible? Is it (or something like it) the natural conclusion of psychology… or is that just unknowable?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Aye not dissimilar to the car mechanic analogy I used earlier in the thread. The science is definitely really slow to evolve and you have a lot of regressives in the field. But I think it IS getting better with time. neuroimaging is growing incredibly fast, neurosurgery for example is lightyears ahead of 10 years ago. And all these fields are connected. The issue is anything affecting cognition and perception is going to be mired in subjective philosophical worries, and that'll probably never go away.
                At any rate, I wish you well schizo anon (if that's who I'm replying to), that's a heavy burden. But don't give up on treatment, there are some good docs out there among all the quacks, and acceptance/interest in fixing mental health issues is making leaps and bounds every year, even if that mean you have to deal with Tumblr types hijacking the discussion sometimes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah I’m not schizo-anon. My story is that I have a history of over medication and drug abuse. At some point I began to realize the majority of my depression had environmental causes, before, during, and after the drug use. So for the last few years I’ve been trying the cbt route and it’s been the only thing thats worked without catastrophic downsides. Like opiates work great for depression in the short term, solve it pretty much completely, but it’s not sustainable, and the credit starts accruing interest quickly. I cringe to use the term “self-care” since it’s become a way for people to justify indulgence… but that’s kind of what it is… doing the work of caring for one’s self. Being intentional and sticking to a nutritious and healthy diet for example… can be a pain, but it’s a step that will pay dividends for your wellbeing and mood. Exercise, acknowledging and dealing with emotions, humbling yourself to reach out for emotional support, and doing the work of helping others when they need it.. it’s all work, but I find it the only way to keep myself sane. Anyway, thanks for reading my blog lol.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mentally ill people most definitely exist. I have a schizophrenic parent and it's quite clear when they're having a psychotic episode. It's hard for normies to wrap their heads around. I can't blame them, it's hard to even explain what it's like to experience someone like that. I have 30+ years exp of dealing with a schizophrenic and it's hellish in way you can't imagine. How do you explain insanity? It literally doesn't make sense.

        I have actual schizophrenia and an "episode" is just acting out a mental blockage that the person refuses to process or incorporate "into reality" its essentially nothing more than a manchild throwing a fit and something is irreconcilably wrong with the development maybe even since childhood which is what turns the mole hill into a mountain over time and we just live with it and say "oops I had an episode again!" then you pop pills and nothing changes instead of resolving the arrested development or source of anxiety. So again, its just made up terms to define a stressful state that can be resolved by facing uncomfortable feelings. But instead of going through the uncomfortableness we take pills.
        T. actual schizo actually diagnosed, actually on meds and hates it. (beyond my control)

        All that said, the fact that the brain is such a developmental black box makes any and all treatment trial and error. When I say no two are the same, there are general structures that contain certain functions, but neuroplastocity is CRAZY. Kids with extremely bad/terminal seizures from one side of the brain can have hemispherectomies (they literally chop out AN ENTIRE HEMISPHERE) and their other half will pick up the slack and they can live normal lives with only mild impairment. The amount of variance basically makes it pointless to try and ascribe hard and fast rules of Neuropathy and resulting psychology.
        Trying to diagnose mental issues based on interviews and non invasive testing is like asking a mechanic to diagnose your cars problem without a diagnostic or telling them the make or model, just a vague description of a knocking noise and less acceleration than you'd like in 3rd gear.

        He never said mentally ill people doesn't exist
        He challenged the idea of WHY some of them exist, and it's the ones that are "chemically imbalanced" based.
        And I don't know about your country, but on my country, that shit was away away from "known evidence". The attached prospectus of antidepressants no longer use terminology that would imply it's "known evidence", you will get the reality check Tom was talking about, something like
        >This medicine could help in some specific cases of depression
        rather than
        >This medicine works on depression by suppressing the chemical X or boosting Y

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Completely true. Tom is crazy and Scientology is too, but they aren't wrong about this. The field of psychology is completely in its infancy, and full of backwards ass undertrained practitioners. There's way too many licensed therapists who are fricking using Jungian psychoanalysis for example. A disproven quack practice from 1912. That's like if surgeons still did surgery at peoples homes with no sterile tools.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Psychoanalysis is not at all the same as invasive surgery, not even close.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Psychoanalysis is as primitive as surgeons operating on dinner tables, it's been thoroughly disproven, but since it was such an early concept in the field it's stuck around in pop psychology. Much like dumb holistic shit tends to I guess. You may as well be treating people's Chi as using Jungian psychology.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He was only comparing them in a single way: how primitive and scientifically disproven they are. We don’t use 2 things in an analogy because they are alike in all or even many ways, we use them because they are unalike except in the way that is being higlighted, and maybe a few more explanatory ways.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The majority of those with depression has no need to consume any form of medication, for they don't have a chemical imbalance like the minority cases do, their lives are just simply not worth living. SSRI:s are handed out like candy to a bunch of kids, providing a band-aid to an amputated arm. What they need is a better lifestyle and a positive environment (which no longer exists), to gain some semblance of a hopeful future. There has to be a carrot, and all there they get is a picture of a carrot generated by an AI.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How else are we supposed to cope with the shit society boomers made. There is no "hopeful future" or "positive environment"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get money. Get a family. Move somewhere nice. Have some physical hobbies ideally combat sports

        There you go, now you don't need to take Prozac because you jerk off all day and play bingo wahoo

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This interview actually made me respect him more. I know low tier scientology is a grift, but it seems like the upper eschalon knows a few things

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well LRH was involved with groups that were into Aleister Crowley back in the 50's before who wrote his made-up religion. There's prolly some of that black magic shit Scientology's DNA

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Talk to fat zoomer coworker.
    >He reveals he got prescribed adderall to help lose weight.
    Tom wasn't wrong.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did it work?
      Can't be any worse for you than the Ozempic shit they're pushing on everyone.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No because my coworker is a lazy moron who still eats garbage and never exercises.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ozempic isn't bad for you though?? whats with all these fatties trying to cope that being fat is a choice in 2024

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your lower intestine adapts to its use and you can't quit, and not in a way like you can power through it like with cigarettes but more like in a way like you get constipated to death

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thats not true. Even if it was you could just taper off. I was on it for half a year/ enough to lose weight and its been 5 months off and haven't had a single problem

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I was on it before it was approved for prescription
              ok shill

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Must suck to live in a backwards ass state/country

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pharma shill

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A thin one, you jealous fatty?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair semaglutide has been used to treat diabetes for at least the last 5 years in a ton of countries. It's only recently in the US that it's been approved for dosing specifically for weight loss.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A homsexual guy in college told me I looked like Tom Cruise. I wasn't sure if it was an insult or a compliment.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My experience with psychiatrists and regular doctors prescribing SSRIs is extremely hit or miss. If you're not smart about it, or on the other hand if you want to abuse the system, you can easily just get refills forever with doctors asking no questions about your lifestyle or changes in your mental health. If you believe depression is just a screwy valve in your body not pumping out enough juice and the daily pill gives you that juice you will unthinkingly grow a dependency on them and make tapering off hell. Luckily my first psychiatrist actually seemed interested in treating the depression and not just hand waving me through the system, she's still to this day the only psych that spent more than 5 minutes an appointment talking about how my life was going and what I was doing besides, "Bad side effects? Sleep ok? Ok here's another 90 days bye".

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Matt was being smug, much more than glib.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cruise was always right.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's right, but this is Cinemaphile and 75% of the gays here are on SSRIs and etc

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, we lift and get plenty of sunshine.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you have mental issues just create multiple personalities in your brain and install the mental illnesses on those

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NO, becoming addicted to antidepressants WILL cure your depression!

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are days where I just feel miserable no matter what and lie in bed all day trying to fall asleep again. It can be a sunny day outside I don't care.

    Then there are the rare days where I feel completely at peace and am able to enjoy simple pleasures.

    Nothing external changed in the 2 cases.

    I just feel pleasure very weakly. Without pleasure how do you motivate yourself? I can watch a great movie that I intellectually feel is great and still be bored because physically I just can't feel anything but this heavy feeling of despair.

    I don't see how that can have any case but biochemical.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      get your hormones checked. for me it was an allergy to shellfish

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go and sprint and do some weights

      There, I fixed your manchild life

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Oy vay, to be thinking such a thing. Here now, be taking this tablet we made up that is many shekels that will cause things to happen to fix the chemicals, yes it will definitely be fixing you. Also tablet may be making you fat, giving you constant diarrhea, giving you a heart attack and stoping your dick from ever being working but it will indeed be fixing that chemical imbalance. What? Why can't we just be giving you the chemical you are needing instead of the tablet? Don't be silly goyim that is impossible.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe but there is complex PTSD from having a mom in the navy & dad that didn't care much.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      people really throwing ptsd on anything these days

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Like on 6 years of daily panic attacks with no escape.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        watch your tone bud

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was so real for this.
    Frick pill pushers and "talk therapists" (yap doctors)
    Never needed them myself, but never known anyone who ever was ever "cured" and got off the pills

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The funny thing is, the medical consensus itself has moved away from the "chemical imbalance" theory of anxiety and depression and towards more cognitive explanations for years now, which I guess means that people here now have to believe it's chemical imbalances to maintain their anti-expert contrarianism.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn’t he saying this in a discussion about Postpartum depression? A meme illness to excuse women being awful mothers

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's really annoying hearing gigachads with low empathy try to talk about problems

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anxiety and depression are a feature, not a bug

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    turns out he was right.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >live in a pod
    >eat bugs
    >own nothing
    >why am I not happy?
    clearly, your body is at fault

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But I DO live in the pod, eat bugs and own nothing and I'm happy.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you think he told his daughter this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wood

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically one thing im scared for my future children. I don't even how i'm gonna react when the grade 2 teacher tells me my kids needs prescription amphetamines to "stay still" when all he wants to (understandably) do is run around recess

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Homeschool your kids, do not give them to pedo israelite drug dealers.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t feel dopamine Tom.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's right. Do literally any form of physical exercise and stop being depressed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only a literal moron meathead thinks thats true.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hes mostly right

    taking meds because you stay up all night, sleep all day, and do drugs doesnt fix the fact you are depressed because you make shitty choices

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when Tom made that man cry after he squirted him with water

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he's lucky he didn't pelt him with nuggets
      dude wouldn't be alive today

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why would you do that. no really, you're a jerk!

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't even know he was sick

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >RESPECT THE wiener AND TAME THE c**t!

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dualism in 2024

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hes right. there has never been proof of this "chemical imbalance", SSRI's and 95% of psychiatry is pseudoscience bullshit that sounds scientific but is more like throwing darts at the ocean hoping it hits something (and becoming filthy rich in the mean time)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's more so there is a chronic condition with no currently patented drugs so there is a market it makes sense to fund research, doesn't matter so much if it's good or bad research provided it gives you some vector to target, in this case serotonin once you have that it's easy enough to make a whole host of drugs targeting it and they only need not kill anyone that fast and with that done you have a guaranteed billion plus dollar a year product this is how pharma thinks at its least shady

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reminder that he was right

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >beat the shit out of you and rape you daily for a year
    >you are depressed
    >bro you just have a CHEMICAL IMBALANCE in the brain lol you just need MEDICATION

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna start taking midofinil. Thoughts?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just get adderall

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't know how to get it in Europe

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          hmm i'll trade you my adderall for a handgun

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just stop touching yourself so much

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fix your diet, 90% of things can be better treated with diet than drugs

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Matt Lauer turns out to be a super villain rapist
    >Oprah is a huge c**t that hangs out and excuses pedophiles
    >Katie Holmes toiling away in obscurity
    >Nicole Kidman BOGG'd
    How does he do it, bros?

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Feel bad
    >Take pill
    >Feel good

    BUT THE SOUUUUUL!!!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you have to clear your mind and seek the void if you want to master the blade.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >take pill
      >complain they feel like a zombie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She acts like this because the fricking decayed her brain with Antipsychotics

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's right though. It's fake science, they don't actually fricking measure anything in your brain. There's a reason why therapists make morons "test what works for you" when they give out depression meds. They don't know jack shit. I've been chronically depressed and "diagnosed" with it. Meds won't do shit but frick you up. You have to find the root of what's making you sad and eliminate it.

    Take the wanderer pill and find what's eating you inside.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. They literally can't predict what anti-depressants will work for you so they throw a bunch of different psychoactive drugs that do very different things at you until you tell them one of them is working for you.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If chemicals don't affect your mood explain drugs

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Half of studies are a lie and the FDA is bought and paid for.

    Literally there are so many stats that make the FDA and current drug science look totally incompetent and akin to witchcraft.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick it he's convinced me, time to come off Zoloft

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was right

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your mood isn't regulated by chemical processes according to the resident scientologists itt

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >be the character in the shawshank redemption
      >get your ass railed by a black man
      >get depressed
      >pillcuck says there is a chemical imbalance
      >in actuality he is depressed because of his own life story he had to witness

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >displays a chemical imbalance on stage

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Aug, 2022
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/03/the-chemical-imbalance-theory-of-depression-is-dead-but-that-doesnt-mean-antidepressants-dont-work

    tom is a genius

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not sure if there is or not. I think we have some element of choice in how we feel.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And he was right. It was all made up to sell pills.

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This was considered a schizo meltdown in 2005

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    stop taking pills, replace yhem with working out and fricking. that is all

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's pretty well-proven ADHD is linked to chronically low dopamine levels.
    And schizophrenia is linked to chronically heightened dopamine levels.

    But I agree with the idea that meds can "cure" any of it. They don't. Like with any substance, forcing a dependency is bad, unless sobriety is so bad to the ill, for example a schizo or an intense bipolar maniac etc., and can't handle reality so much they HAVE TO be sedated/zombified

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >20 years later he was proven right
    The entire reason israelites got mad at scientology is because someone had figured out a way to outisraelite the israelites

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"The aliens made me gay"

    wtf?

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the psychiatry industry begat the pharmaceutical industry so now everybody has got some kind of tism or syndrome or ptsd or whatever so they can turn you into a lifetime customer of their janky pills

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Depressed as all frick all my life
    >Multiple therapies
    >Multiple pill treatments
    >Their effects range from making me feel like an emotionless zombie who just autopilots through the day with a sense of eptiness or make me start seriously considering how much better things would be if I started murdering people
    >Get off some meds cold turkey after voicing concerns to my doc about intrusive thoughts getting worse and his response being "your dosage may just be too low, let's increase it."
    >"Brain zaps" as side effect from colt turkey but worth it so I stop playing Hotline Miami in my head at work
    >Feel like I deserve nothing but the worst and resolve to try shrooms for the first time
    >"I deserve punishment. I'm going to take the largest dose I can and induce living hell onto myself. Then I'll get the courage to really end it. Hopefully I get a psychotic break in the middle of it and just jump out a frickin window."
    >Just literally eating handfulls of dried shrooms, easily over 8 grams of shrooms
    >About 1.5 hours in I'm feeling it but say "this isn't enough, I need more" and munch who knows how many more grams
    >Clean entire house, need to lay down to take a break, but decide to smoke weed before doing so
    >Lift off the moment I take a hit
    >Deep dive into my worst anxieties
    >Feel like the universe itself
    >But then "see" the center of the universe
    >Hear clear narration from a voice other than my own telling me something like "you've done this an infinite number of times, you'll keep doing it forever at this rate, but now that you've heard this you can break the cycle"
    >See face of the woman I love radiating from the "center" of the universe
    >Tears won't stop flowing, my entire body feels like a liquid puddle
    >Come back to reality
    >Realize the most obvious fricking things i need to fix my life, as if all the answers were staring at me all along and I just ignored them
    >Fix my relationship
    >Get promotions at job
    >Depression HEALED

    5 years later, still good. Take shrooms.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he had a spiritual imbalance

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shrooms are self medication, but honestly it's better then letting a doctor (stranger) experiment on you with pills

      they call it practicing medicine for a reason

      you will always be a better judge of how you feel and what works for you and what doesn't than a stranger, even if they are a doctor

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yea, they make you take a deep dive into the innermost pits of your psyche. And your ego is removed from the equation, which usually holds you back from ever diving that deep to protect itself.

        On a day to day basis, it feels like I was always lying to myself. But you can't bullshit yourself on psychedelics. They force you to confront your anxieties head on, and your sense of time is completely out the window so it can literally feel like you're just stuck in your own dimension for years before you come back.

        So it's like cramming a frickton of therapy into one single sitting. Except that unlike a therapist, you can't lie, or hold back out of fear of being judged.

        From time to time I still get some sad episodes of self doubt and anxieties but I'm sure that's normal. I LOVE myself now, like genuinely. I love who I am, and the people closest to me. I never in my life prior was able to say that. So I'm always happy to know that no matter how sad I may get, I never get to lows where I think I'm undeserving of love and happiness.

        I trip maybe once or twice a year now, in moderate doses. They're usually meditative in nature, accompanied by music I feel a meaningful relation to.

        >he had a spiritual imbalance

        Unironically, yeah. I'm not a spiritual person really but that intertwining with the universe as a formless entity was humbling. When you realize that these kinds of drugs were commonplace in societies around the world before prudes prohibited them, it makes you realize modern society really is missing that "spiritual" aspect that may be more important for mental health than we realized.

        Doesn't mean you have to go to start worshiping gods or reading scriptures. But there's definitely something to getting "divine revelations" from mind altering experiences.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I met us once too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All you needed was that heavy confrontation within yourself. It's not owed to the shrooms, it's owed to your intuition.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do SSRI people cope with the impotence? How bad does your mental state have to be where that isn't a net negative?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is why cuckold fetish is a trend in western civ

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly was better for me than being off it. Depression is worse for it than being on them

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't cum when I took antidepressants so I stopped taking them

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone ever heard of someone that had the delusion that their mouth breathing caused their face to change day by day. The person I am taking about discovered stuff about mouth breathing, mewing, etc. and had a breakdown over it. I am not joking. This person is still suffering greatly because of these beliefs. There are more details but I want to get opinions or any sort of insight you guys might have. A lot of you are probably around his age.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not a delusion.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >society becomes shitty because of technology
    >people get sad at how shitty things are for them
    >"Actually things are good and YOU are moronic, now take these mind altering drugs."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >society becomes shitty because of technology
      Going to need a source on that, society was much shittier before technology

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The "dark ages" were a psyop and it was actually really chill and cool for 500 years with low tech

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No one is stopping you from living on some desolate farm house. How come all you anti-tech people are terminally online. Practice what you preach or shut the hell up

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I applied to the amish but they have a waitlist of like 200 applicants
            I never said "low population", I said "low tech"
            Living by yourself in a cabin is the woods is fine but not for everyone

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ~~*Psychology*~~

    ~~*Psychiatry*~~

    ~~*Anti-Depressants*~~

    All israeli nonsense

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bait used to be believable

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        96, 97 and 98% of the population used to be straight

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Almost as if they were scared to be themselves due to stigmatism society placed on them. Even in the 2000s people would use "gay" as a slur like it was nothing. Homophobes are losing the culture war and we aren't turning back

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So why are old people still "afraid to be themselves"?
            If there's no social stigma anymore why are 70 and 80 year olds still 98% straight when they have nothing to lose, while the latest generations are 18 or 19% gay?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you encourage someone to be gay and suck dicks they are more likely to become gay. We are creating a generation of eunuchs.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >we
              hello mooch, don't include me in your blame game you freak

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they still are straight, they just haven't gotten all the way through puberty to realize it yet.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how the f is that bait, that's obviously true

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not "israeli" nonsense but I do believe most of it is nonsense. Psychological maladies are caused by relational dynamics gone wrong, aka, relational trauma. Yet most psychologists speak about people's issues as if they're innate characteristics. A good "psychologist" needs empathy and most of them feign a cheap imitation. In this sense, an effective therapist is really more like a friend.
      Any person who finds a lost soul and challenges them, befriends them, mentors them, etc is essentially a "therapist." There are legions of guys working on construction sites who decided to take an active interest in a young man on the wrong path and give him a hand, who are doing more than the "therapist" that tells him he's got "xyz disorder" and either needs drugs or needs to go to discussion group
      Being a good community member and an empathic person is being a therapist/psychologist

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should obviously try getting some sun and exercise but its not going to work for everyone. There are obviously some deep rooted problems with capitalism that is causing people to be depressed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >le politics
      yeah you need to go outside

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hitler

    Was

    Right

    Unironically

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was literally right

    https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/mental-illness-is-not-in-your-head/

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Surely we'll get to the bottom of it in this thread on a chinese basket weaving forum full of lovely reasonable people.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >There's no such thing as a chemical imbalance
    cut to the same guy dancing a sofa screaming that he's in love.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, it was a literal cut, the editing in that interview makes it an obvious character assassination

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's funny is that he was absolutely right. In the last 5-10 years mainstream psychology completely walked back the "chemical imbalance" model of depression. Right now it's all about cognitive behavioral theory and the influence of thinking patterns on mood.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most addictions, howeverski, only happen because of dopamine imbalance and withdrawl thoughever
    SSRIs are poison though

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Theres two types of people. Those that blame everything else and fundamentally have a losers mentality. Those are the "chemical balance" believers. They are like those liberal sjw who pretend to be disabled for attention

    And then you have alpha chads who carve out their own reality, and don't pretend they have no choice because of muh imbalance

    That's all there is to it. Cope seethe etc

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >And then you have alpha chads who carve out their own reality, and don't pretend they have no choice because of muh imbalance

      choice is an illusion
      you think most people choose to be average and work unsatisfying jobs?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. They do. Because they chose to play bing bing wahoo and jerk off daily instead of getting in to sport or doing cool shit.

        Then after 30 years of never doing a single push up and working a shit lame job, they wonder why they are le depressed incel (its the brain chemicals!)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also dumb people like you grew up on Instant gratification video games and porn
        You think everything is a finger snap away. Life and where you are depends on years of small choices you make, but losers like you think people just snap their fingers and get that job or goal or whatever
        then cope by saying the magical chemical imbalance is why you never achieve those things. Kek

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you call me dumb, something I can't control and then say I have a choice

          if we had free will why would you ever self-sabotage yourself? if instant gratification is so tempting why do others resist it? it's just a combination of environmental and genetic factors. your thoughts just appear in your head. you can't just make yourself to think productive thoughts.

          the other way around successful people also like to think they were in control and not just following a script

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Hes convinced himself he's not in control of his own thoughts or reaction to circumstance

            And thats why you choose to be a loser

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So many glib anons itt.

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boy, the mental state of Cinemaphile users really doesn't surprise me.

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    explain vegans then

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every single poster ITT except for me is a monumental homosexual

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A CHEMICAL ROMANCE

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tom Cruise has never been wrong.

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Exposure therapy is the only good therapy. Also read about mindfulness and workout you gays.

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He’s right about pharmaceuticals but chemical imbalances absolutely exist, it’s just usually caused by dietary and environmental toxins and lack of exercise. I’ve been studying this since I was a young teenager and could help anyone here change their lives completely within a month. I test everything on myself first to see what works and it’s incontrovertible what has the greatest effects. Blood work just repeatedly confirms it. If put in charge of citizens health, I could single handedly shut down the pharmaceutical and medical industrial complex within one year.

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They both had a point. There's ways to overcome depressive states without taking anything, and a healthy lifestyle and good social environment can contribute to that.
    But certain people's chemistry is too fricked up and they simply need medication to aid them.

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