They don't look so bad anymore, do they.
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They never were bad because I saw them as a kid and not some screeching get X'er
they were shit and boring, the fact you use the excuse they are specifically made for children is moronic, please have a nice day
>they're good because I saw them when my brain was putty
Me and my cousins grew up watching this. I told my girl cousin that it’s worse than the OT, and she actually cried and screamed at me for being critical of something she liked.
today's caca looks a lot worse than yesterday's diarrhea
No, they still look exactly as bad.
I always loved ROTS. I loved it when it came out and enjoy it more than ESB and ROTJ.
Remember when Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow came out and it was fricking mind-blowing that it was all green screen?
>haha the new star wars has PUPPETS practical effects FOR THE WIN!!!
I never got the obsession with practical effects. Yeah, a lot of CGI especially today looks bad, but it's not an automatic detriment
I personally love the prequels, they're really entertaining. But I don't get when we stopped celebrating advances in technology because they're not like the GOOD OLD DAYS.
Why didn't Who Framed Roger Rabbit? use dudes in costumes? You can clearly tell the cartoons aren't there, cartoons don't even exist.
For me it causes this weird disconnect. I love cartoons, whether they're 2d or 3d renders, and I love seeing neat effects and cartoon stuff. I love seeing practical effects in live action because you think of how much effort it takes to make that stuff and how cool it came out looking. But then when you mix CG and live action too much, it just feels like 'why don't I just watch a cartoon?' and it feels lazy at the same time. Too much CG in live action makes it feel lazy because you know they could have done practical, and the actual CG is never cool enough to warrant it because of the human actors doing lame normal human shit on top of it.
That film always looked like crap.
Teething issues. The Mummy has shonky CGI. It's a great adventure flick.
As for the prequels it's ONE aspect of the film(s), like an animation with a really bad dub/voice acting.
This, b-b-but SAND!
>The Mummy has shonky CGI.
I do not agree, it has some wonky CG, other parts were especially good for the time and still look credible thanks to careful animation and lighting work. It also has a huge amount of great practical effects and locations.
This applies to Star Wars. The OT had some fricking awful compositing (hangar bays) and matte paintings (the detention block).
One of the positive changes of the Special Edition--and there aren't many--is actually adding windows to Cloud City.
The disconnect between what's 'really there' and what isn't has always existed in films. I can watch Attack of the Clones the same way I can watch King Kong.
There's a difference between something looking not real, and something looking ugly. Attack of the Clones frequently looks ugly, not simply "fake".
Stop motion looks ugly. The skeletons in Jason and the Argonauts would look better as current-year CGI. Maybe older CGI with correct lighting/editing (keep them in shadow, quick cuts between them and the actors, etc).
Young millennials have a tough time separating their nostalgia from things that were actually good. Don't get me wrong, everyone struggles with this at certain times, but the Star Wars prequels are fricking garbage. Even Revenge of the Sith. There are no good ones. They blow.
>Remember when Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow came out and it was fricking mind-blowing that it was all green screen?
No. It looked like one of those shitty music videos from the mid-00's.
They were never bad.
I literally only started "hating" them after RedLetterMedia made their reviews.
starwarsgays will always find something to b***h about in the shitty kiddy franchise they're eternally cucked to. Kind of funny actually
Queen Amidala was extremely memorable, and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
Luke is a farmboy who finds out he has a family connection to a wizard and just gets given a wizard-sword. He doesn't train--in fact the pilot training scenes with Biggs were cut.
But I really liked the movies as a kid so he shits all over Amidala.
Luke, Queen Amidala and Qui-Gon Jinn were all great characters.
I have always enjoyed them. I grew up with them. I know they're kind of shit, but I don't care. the summers of my youth were watching Star Wars episodes IV-VI on tape, then in theaters in 97, and then the prequels from 99 to 05. The games based on them were fun. The action figures were cool. We all knew the PT was pretty ass, but we didn't really care. You fricking babies watched the RLM videos, which aren't wrong about anything, and assumed we all hated Star Wars back then. Nope, we loved it, even though it sucked. Except Jar Jar. We all fricking hated that little fricker.
They're the same quality level as the sequels. One good movie, one okay movie, one shit movie.
Cinemaphile is not ready for this truth. They'll seethe into an aneurysm
Meanwhile OT is one amazing movie, one great movie, one good movie.
Ah, but which is which?
You can literally compare the sequels to anything if you're going to be this superficial, you dumbfrick.
Even the OT could be described like this.
they're still shit
For me this is real star wars, the prequels are old (but i understand why people of older generation like them) and the new female-Black person combo is woke garbage.
Poor Padme, if only she knew how gay Anakin was.
This movie gave us 'across the stars' which automatically makes it good
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John Williams does good work, but good music does not a good film make.
no they don't. even if they fail in execution they're thematically more complex than either ot or nu wars, plus they launched a bunch of cool spin off stories and games
They're pure SOUL compared to the slop we get now
prequeltards will unironically defend this
It looks nothing like real space alien pigs at all.
I miss George Lucas.
SOVL
No.
Nope, still shit like all the others
t. 20/20 vision and media literate
The only thing that elevates them above the sequels is the OST. Williams made an effort for the prequels. For the sequels he gave them his name and not much more.
What the frick happened to the choreography between TPM and AOTC? We go from the best lightsaber duel of the series and an iconic setpiece, to the plodding clumsy and dull fight in AOTC.
>We go from the best lightsaber duel of the series and an iconic setpiece, to the plodding clumsy and dull fight in AOTC.
Please. Seeing that green dude fight with his little green sword was fricking cool until heckin' science revisionism convinced everyone it wasn't.
It was cool if you were eight years old when you saw it. Most of us grew up. You didn't.
I have no idea what you mean.
it's a good trick
Kek, everyone loves to rag on the lightsaber battles in the prequels when the OT just had THIS shit. Old men waggling weightless stick in front of them occasionally clashing. Embarrassing.
its almost like there was more to the OT than ackshun
jesus, what a cope.
Because that duel doesn't last very long and consists mostly of dialogue. The prequels are very proud of their effects and lightsaber battles despite said battles being shit.
>Said battles being shit
>Literally only the Dooku battles
>EVERY OT battle is just directionless flailing between "masters" of their craft
Just quit while you're ahead. Go watch THE POWER OF MANEEEEEEEEEEY
only the Dooku battles
The Sidious duels aren't good either. The only worthwhile duels are Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon v. Maul and Anakin v. Obi-Wan, and they're still longer than they warrant.
>The only good battles are
>Half of them
Citation needed on the others being bad. You literally only post the Dooku ones.
>You
I'm not the one that posted it, friend.
>Citation needed
Get the cum out of your eyes.
>Proof?
>Uh!? IT'S RIGHT THERE!? I DON'T NEED TO PROVE MY POINT!!! YOU SHOULD JUST ALREADY AGREE WITH ME
This is what you're fighting for:
THE POWER OF ONE
THE POWER OF TWO
THE POWER OF MEN EEEEEEEEE
THE POWER OF ONE
THE POWER OF TWO
THE POWER OF MEN EEEEEEEEEE
>This is what you're fighting for:
But it isn't. I'm just pointing out that the prequels are shitty movies. This would be true even if we lived in a world where you didn't suck endless amounts of wiener and Disney never bought Lucasfilm.
>N-N-NOOO! NO ITS NOT!!!
>NO NO NO NO NO NO
Now try typing that after taking the baby Yoda butt plug out of your ass. Everything Disney star wars was designed to pander to the OT lovers and prequel haters. You're literally the target audience for THE POWER OF MEN EEEEEEEEEEE
>>N-N-NOOO! NO ITS NOT!!!
Correct.
Come on man, it was made 50 years ago. At the time, there was no enormous special effects industry. Star Wars was the film that started all of that. And given the limitations, budget, and sheer scope/size of what they had to do, Industrial Light and Magic went above and beyond at their job.
>My precious OT gets a pass because LE NOSTALGIA. MUH CHILDHOOD
>YOU don't get to have nostalgia for the prequels though, they objectively suck, even if you go back and watch them today as a grown adult and still prove their good
>Not my precious movies from MY childhood, though.
Just wait. You'll get there.
There is goofy looking shit like this in the original trilogy
yet you never bring that up
>ani stands there like a tard while dookie spins rather than slicing through his turned back
no prequelBlack folk can mock TFAs shitty throneroom fight choreography
No amount of revisionism can change the fact that Attack of the Clones bored me to sleep in the theater as a ten year old.
There's this very insecure seething defensiveness around Prequel fans that always makes me laugh.
>*cough* hey kid, I heard you like the prequels now
They're still trash and you only like them because you were a baby at the time
They’re still dogshit with a few moments of pure kino
The prequels are shit and always will be. Redlettermedia was right about everything.
I was waiting for this post. The most mind broken RLM redditor on the board. Never lets me down.
Bot, have been 10 years since TFA, where is the nostalgia for the Disney turds? the games? the books, the comics, the merchandising?
They're actually worse.
The ST is bad in a very unremarkable and familiar way, it's mass market trash trying desperately and failing to appeal to demographics. Those films are bad in the same way that most superhero films are bad, most modern big budget blockbusters are bad. They're made by committee, have no identity, no purpose other than consumerism, etc. No one should be shocked that they aren't good movies. They're made by a giant corporation trying to exploit nostalgia for financial gain. The filmmakers who created them have never made a good movie, so it's naive to expect otherwise.
The PT, however, are films made by an auteur at the height of his abilities who was enjoying more creative freedom than he ever had before. He was removed completely from his constraints, had the most advanced technology at the time at his disposal, and the entire industry chomping at the bit to work with him which means he had his pick of the litter when it comes to casting, handpicking the head of every department. He was undoubtedly working with the best in the business. And yet those movies turned out not just bad but shocking, appallingly terrible on virtually every single conceivable level. They had every reason to be good and instead are some of the worst films to ever be granted a wide release. They're horrific. So they automatically deserve more ire, because they have no excuse.
The ST should just be ignored, never seen again. The PT should be studied, and its monumental failure should be understood so that nothing like it is ever allowed to happen again.
watch the RLM reviews
They never did
Never did, only Disney bots think otherwise
We've been over this countless times, only trannies hate the prequels.
Kill all prequelgays
Kill all sequelgays
the entire franchise is fricking awful shit. frick you
This is the face of OTBlack folk Nu Wars apologists
I look like this but I'm a prequelsister tho
There's one seriously butthurt PT fanboy here.
The prequels had it all. Action, romance, political intrigue, good music, etc. The OT is only worshiped by dumb boomers and reddit trannoids.
what does he eat?
What's his tax policy?
duuhhh me me love preekwels me no like smartypants no love them they dum not me!
They're still awful. They have more personality than a lot of modern blockbusters, but you could say the same about a number of big movies from the 2000s that are also much better than the prequels.
>but you could say the same about a number of big movies from the 2000s that are also much better than the prequels
name 10
POTC, Raimi-Man, Lord of the Rings, The Matrix.
Yes, they do. Watch the Plinkett reviews.
Reminder: This "star wars ring theory" made Mike seethe so much that he had to "debunk" it before he started sucking off JJ for the force awakens.
lmao
https://www.starwarsringtheory.com/ (site is still up)
Just because something sucks more than something else doesn't mean they don't both suck.
Hey man, you're dealing with eternal manchildren that are not capable of thinking critically. Leave them be.
I love detective Kenobi in episode 2. So much better than his show
Even as a kid, I could not understand the static shots, where it’s just a cgi backdrop, and people are aimlessly running through it, as if that’s meant to inspire some adrenaline rush.
It’s like choosing between drinking piss or eating shit. Apples to oranges. But more disgusting.
>food analogy
It’s sad that an epic film made over a century ago still causes such grief among its young new-born fans. What can be done about it? Probably nothing. Except to cherish the genius of the original, and not try to sully its legacy at every opportunity.
Excuse me? Do you see ANY real diversity in these self-fellating products of George's racist ideologies? I don't want to watch Star Wars to see a bunch of identical people representing morality and fighting across the stars. I watch Star Wars for minimal white characters, strong tribalism and a reason to call other people racists or bigots or misogynists or whatever sociopolitical hot topic we can use to divide the masses. I hope the retcon Luke out the story entirely. I hope there's a time-shifting event and he dies off-screen or even better, Palpetine dies off-screen so there's no Anakin and then there's none of the rest of the original cast. Frick that shit. They make me sick.