I was about to suggest that "you must have heard of Ganymede before", but realized that you're a fricking stooge that's incapable of reading above a 6th grade level.
Wasn't the dude just a cupbearer? Anything more concrete than your fetish projection?
dude zeus literally turned into a bull and fricked, the dude was the head god of a culture who had a holiday where dudes would get drunk frick teenage boys and then go home and beat their wives. he fricked anything he wanted male female or animal.
>turned into a bull and fricked,
Fricked who? Is it a man?
If you want to deal with historical stuff you gotta stick with facts, otherwise you are peddling propaganda (aka fake news)
I fricking hate Americans and brits translate "kidnapping" with "rape".
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I fricking hate Americans and brits translate "kidnapping" with "rape".
both are lacking in consent, rapist.
2 years ago
Trollberg Lover
Technically true but it's never said in any version of the myths that the sexual intercourse that happened later wasn't consensual.
The rape ones are just an interpretation and actually there are plenty of stories like the birth of Dyonisus or the myth of Eros and Psyche where it's implied that both the parties were willing.
So in the worst case scenario it was a "Beauty and the Beast kind of deal"
2 years ago
Anonymous
>So in the worst case scenario it was a "Beauty and the Beast kind of deal"
Dude what the frick are you high right now? No, idiot, when bronze age warriors kidnapped women they raped them.
2 years ago
Trollberg Lover
But they were not mortals warriors
They were gods
.
And I can't imagine a god with self respect raping someone.
Rape is used by people that wouldn't be able to lay with the person in other way other than that, ergo a wretch of society also as all powerful being they would be able to seduce mortals without need of violence.
>or the myth of Eros and Psyche
I have literally never heard a story that implied that that wasn't consensual, it was just that eros's mom is a possessive b***h >the woman goes through a bunch of bullshit trials while pregnant and aphrodite kept on bullying her
seriously
I was in fact using it as an example of a willing relationship between a God and a mortal.
Sorry, I may miss tiped something.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Rape is used by people that wouldn't be able to lay with the person in other way other than that, ergo a wretch of society also as all powerful being they would be able to seduce mortals without need of violence.
What? Plenty of powerful/successful/rich men have raped women or molested children. If you lack respect for others or see them as playthings to do with as you please, then forcing yourself on someone isn't too far of a jump.
2 years ago
Trollberg Lover
I would say that no matter their wealth and importance those people could still be considered wretch of society.
My point is knowing that you needed to force to a mortal instead of that mortal spontaneously given themselves would be seen as a sign of incompetence in front to a powerful beings.
>And I can't imagine a god with self respect raping someone.
Assuming a god actually cared for a mortal is a Christian conceit.
The pagans understood that their gods treated mortals as playthings. As far as a pagan god was concerned, he was doing a mortal woman an honor by raping her; it showed that she was good enough to for him to have sex with.
As above is not really a matter of respecting the will of the mortals but more a matter of self values if the other gods discovered you needed to rape someone even with all your wealth a power they'd think you are a damn failure without an inch of charisma and status and respect is something the Olympians cared a lot.
>And I can't imagine a god with self respect raping someone.
bro, do you even know zeus
he once pretended to be his lesbian daughter to frick one of her lesbian friends
I know the myth about Callisto but there Zaus use trickery to get what he desire in this way still showing cunning and not brute force.
In Greek mythology gods are yes stronger but not more intelligent of mortals so overpowering with force would be seen as nothing special but out tricking someone would.
What Zeus did in that situation was still terrible and morally wrong but still not rape.
2 years ago
Anonymous
bro are you ACTUALLY arguing that zeus of all people isn't a rapist
2 years ago
Trollberg Lover
A morally anbigous and jerk at times
Absouletly he is.
Rapist nope.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And I can't imagine a god with self respect raping someone.
Assuming a god actually cared for a mortal is a Christian conceit.
The pagans understood that their gods treated mortals as playthings. As far as a pagan god was concerned, he was doing a mortal woman an honor by raping her; it showed that she was good enough to for him to have sex with.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Assuming a god actually cared for a mortal is a Christian conceit.
The Judaeo-Christian god only cared for his people and gave his chosen free reign to launch a genocide on the "promised land" and collect every virgin girl as rape brides.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sounds like you're describing an Abrahamic god but not a Judaeo-Christian one.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Gensis 34 is no longer in the bible?
2 years ago
Anonymous
That was just Jacob's sons wiping out one city's males in revenge for the rape of their sister.
Sounds like you're describing an Abrahamic god but not a Judaeo-Christian one.
But yeah, at Jericho the Israelites were instructed to fricking genocide the whole population, not even to take prisoners. Same for when the Lord ordered them to eradicate the Canaanites. Several battles are described as being like that.
Old Testament God was brutal as hell, not just the Muslim version
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And I can't imagine a god with self respect raping someone.
bro, do you even know zeus
he once pretended to be his lesbian daughter to frick one of her lesbian friends
2 years ago
Anonymous
>or the myth of Eros and Psyche
I have literally never heard a story that implied that that wasn't consensual, it was just that eros's mom is a possessive b***h >the woman goes through a bunch of bullshit trials while pregnant and aphrodite kept on bullying her
seriously
>Wasn't the dude just a cupbearer
Not really: >One of the earliest depictions of Ganymede is a red-figure krater >Zeus pursues Ganymede on one side, while the youth runs away on the other side, rolling along a hoop while holding aloft a crowing wiener >wieners were common gifts from older male suitors to younger men they were interested in romantically in 5th century Athens.
>wieners were common gifts from older male suitors to younger men they were interested in romantically in 5th century Athens.
Were roosters synonymous with penis even back then?
Op spend his life chained on a cave with a sign saying Zeus was straight, but when he finally crawled out and saw reality he just doubled down on what he saw in the cave.
>Wasn't the dude just a cupbearer? Anything more concrete than your fetish projection?
Plato uses Ganymede as an example of a sexually consummated pederastic relationship in the Phadreus. Homer mentions Zeus's love of Ganymde in the Illiad.
Ganymede and Zeus are not real people. We can only know them through poetic references. They don't and cannot exist beyond the writings of ancient Greeks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Implying there aren't volumes of oral tradition that might color the understanding of the stories even without being officially written down
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's true, but we don't have access to that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So we must take great care NOT to mix what we do know with what we want it to be.
They might have been true only for Athens, for only that particular period of time and for a particular social class
Remember, each of the Greek Polis were a nation unto themselves, with their own laws and customs.
Also, Rome was an continental spanning empire that lasted for centuries. Athens was a city state. One's going to be more influential than the other.
Rome was ages after Greece declined.
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The word "canon" originally referred to strict adherance to biblical text. All denominations and religious views are considered canon by their followers and heretics by those who disagree.
You know what he meant, no need to go full lawyer sophistry on the definitions.
Plato literally criticized the interpretation of the myth as originating from the Cretans to justify their "unnatural desires" so yes that was a well known interpretation back then and homosex was common back then. Albeit shit varied from city state to city state.
dude zeus literally turned into a bull and fricked, the dude was the head god of a culture who had a holiday where dudes would get drunk frick teenage boys and then go home and beat their wives. he fricked anything he wanted male female or animal.
Loki canonically turned into a mare, had sex with a stallion and foaled.
Odin crossdressed to learn seiðr, the magic reserved to women.
Much like in ancient greece, being gay and active wasn't common but ok, being passive was considered "weak"
At what point in history? Before or after Christianity became more common? Also what did "homosexual" mean to them when they outlawed it? Was it two adult men, or did still count if it was a man and a youth?
Nobody knows, most people didn't know how to write and men with money and easier lives usually end up being educated edgy gays (like the guys who wrote and changed Hercules mythos over and over again)
The same thing happened in the medieval times with knights, a lot of those stories were approved by the royalty
Same thing happened with some miracles and in israeli books too.
I think Zeus was a gay though, never cared about him cause i find him uninteresting
Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a patrician thing that the plebs were disgusted with, making them a prime target demographic for Christianity because it legitimizes their hatred of homosexuality
Of course plebs care about what other plebs think. It's how they synchronize. And if enough plebs wanted patrician degeneracy to disappear, it would make perfect sense for something like Christianity to go viral.
Anons pointing at Ganymede don't realise that there is not just one version of the story and even the ancient Athenians said those elements were just Cretan fanfiction/paederasty.
Even the abductor of the cup bearer depended on which culture told the story.
And equating raping "beautiful" little boys in the ass to being bi probably has nothing to do with whatever OP is complaining about, since if it's MCU (or whatever Cinemaphile thread this is) I doubt they'd ever depict "sexual emergency" sexuality since catamites are not socially acceptable in modernity.
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Damn even in ancient Greece shippers ruin everything.
Yes. Humanity's never changed.
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Source?
Their source is encyclopaedia britannica. You can also see a similar piece on wikipedia.
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Well, do the earliest forms of the myth mention Ganymede's beauty?
They probably do but that version is also probably the one where King Minos, the Cretan King, abducts him.
i like how you didnt noticed Zeus was into lady boys
Greek sexuality was a lot looser back then, Homosexuality wasnt really a concept. Legally you married your wife but that was really only for property and children. You could never see her again and prostitute it out with every sailor on the sea and still be considered heterosexual in ancient greece
Op spend his life chained on a cave with a sign saying Zeus was straight, but when he finally crawled out and saw reality he just doubled down on what he saw in the cave.
Nobody knows, most people didn't know how to write and men with money and easier lives usually end up being educated edgy gays (like the guys who wrote and changed Hercules mythos over and over again)
The same thing happened in the medieval times with knights, a lot of those stories were approved by the royalty
Same thing happened with some miracles and in israeli books too.
I think Zeus was a gay though, never cared about him cause i find him uninteresting
The same thing happens now.
Rich powerful perverts changing popular myths stories and culture from the top down to promote and force their insanity among the slave class.
If they shut down discussion of what's being shown like how they don't want open talks about children being indoctrinated with media snd in classrooms them you know it's true.
Didn’t Korg mention his mom in Ragnarok? It was weird to hear he suddenly had two dads in this movie. Also I didn’t expect them to make Miek female but ok I guess?
Sword and sandal movies have always been smut. so i don't know what's the problem with accurately representing the greek gods, who did fricked up stuff like having sex with kids
i like how you didnt noticed Zeus was into lady boys
Greek sexuality was a lot looser back then, Homosexuality wasnt really a concept. Legally you married your wife but that was really only for property and children. You could never see her again and prostitute it out with every sailor on the sea and still be considered heterosexual in ancient greece
pedophilia also was not a concept in ancient Greece
it was ok to frick trees, animals and literal holes in the ground. Literal holes, in the ground.
Literal.
Holes.
In.
the.
Ground.
Orgies were a friday activity. STDs were rampant to the point it was like the common cold. Prostitution was legal and so common monogamy wasnt a thing. Fricking a knot hole in a bridge was a symbolism of blessing, if your dick got caught in a sheep, as long as it your sheep there was no problem
There was no sexual shame (for men) Thats a modern christen thing
There was SOME sexual shame for men. Or at least, for the Boys. You couldn't be seen as TOO eager to get on with the bottoming, even if you really did want to learn philosophy and so forth.
Zeus would frick anything that moves and most things that don't. In one myth he abducted Ganymede, a prince of Troy, to serve as a sex slave on Olympus. He also assumed animal form on many occasions to sleep with women.
He's what happens when a man gets Godlike powers and an infinite amount of time. Nothing left to do but start having sex that gradually gets fricking weird.
It's pretty funny how most Greek mythology is just the consequenes of Zeus refusing to keep it in his pants, and Hera taking her anger at his cheating out on his illegitment kids and mostly unaware mistresses because Zeus is immortal.
Come to think of it, Greek gods were dicks weren't they? Plus everyone esentially goes to what would otherwise be seen as hell
It's pretty funny how most Greek mythology is just the consequenes of Zeus refusing to keep it in his pants, and Hera taking her anger at his cheating out on his illegitment kids and mostly unaware mistresses because Zeus is immortal.
Come to think of it, Greek gods were dicks weren't they? Plus everyone esentially goes to what would otherwise be seen as hell
Greek Gods are dicks, yes. Greek tragedies are constantly one of the following. >Gods are buttholes, deal with it >You can't escape fate, and fate is an butthole, deal with it >Incest is best for horrible endings, deal with it >Greek Myth is the original Marvel Cinematic Universe, and everyone sucks, deal with it >Zeus. Fricks. Everyone. deal with it >The Gods will strike you down for something that you'll only do incidentally by accident because you were avoiding the thing the Gods said they'd strike you down for, making them super buttholes. Deal with it.
if you killed yourself you went to the worst Hades so probably less than modern day, since theyd probably die of poverty before being able to kill themself
Not sure about rates but their ideology was largely "Don't suicide unless A, the Gods say you should or B, you really have no other options. If you suicide you're unmanly/cowardly/wasting potential."
greeks where afraid of death.
and the greek underworld had 3 different places you could go too
- Tartarus (the worst place)
- Asphodel Meadows (bad place)
- Elysium/Elysian Fields/Isles of the Blessed (the good place)
Ngl I lost interest in Valkyrie and Korg after hearing they were gay. Korg is understandable becaue he's a rock monster with a different biology but I still hate it. Valkyrie is bisexual drunk who fricked anything including Hulk. Total degeneracy overload. Rip Korg, I loved you (no homo)
In the comic they show how his race reproduce, basically when two Korgs love each other very much they go to a volcano and shake fist until the rock melts and a baby comes out.
This.
It's less like sex and more like a mutual budding...or something. Rock monsters melting their hands together to form a new rock monster doesn't count as "gay" in my book.
A massive prostitute?
Anon...
That's every other loser future catlady/beta female on earth.
Good to hang with and blow her back out.
But God help you if you don't pull out or thr condom breaks.
Especially if she realizes her time on her back knees or wearing a strap on makes her hot radioactive garbage in term of relationship material her clock is ticking and she hinted at settling down ir wanting kids.
You don't get to use the "historically accurate" excuse for these movies when they have a black man playing the whitest god in the Nordic pantheon and a black woman playing a blonde Valkyrie.
Look at the sheer amount of self destructive emotionally damaging shit that simps do for even a whiff of mediocre pussy.
If guys could choose to opt out of that don't you think they would?
The ironic is that they don't seem to realize that the homosexuality and their hyper sexual lives are what pretty much lead to their downfall. Exactly like what is happening to the western world right now
>homosexuality and their hyper sexual lives are what pretty much lead to their downfall
Are you one of those rare morons who have just never heard of a little thing called "the Roman empire"?
So when it's your word against the recorded evidence of people who actually lived in that time period... people should believe you because (checks notes) "books are gay and school sucks"?
The guy probably thinks homosex was the sole reason the greeks lost to the romans, even though the conqured every nation around the mediterranean regardless of how stoic or degenerate they were
>pretty much lead to their downfall. Exactly like what is happening to the western world
And lots of other empires have fallen for plenty of non-sexual reasons. It is almost like governmental systems aren't designed to last for eternity.
In antiquity it generally didn't matter who you fricked, so long as you were on top.
Being masculine was what mattered. It wasn't until a certain sect of Judaism, that is better known as Christianity, became mainstream that homosexuality was seen as "immoral".
>In antiquity it generally didn't matter who you fricked, so long as you were on top.
This is true in Rome, but less so ancient Athens. It was much more explicitly about age there. I was okay to be fricked as a freeborn boy, but not for that same person to be fricked as an adult.
They might have been true only for Athens, for only that particular period of time and for a particular social class
Remember, each of the Greek Polis were a nation unto themselves, with their own laws and customs.
Also, Rome was an continental spanning empire that lasted for centuries. Athens was a city state. One's going to be more influential than the other.
It depends on whether you're a woman hater or a young male appreciator. The latter isn't gay, it says so in the Great Mirror of Male Love and I think we all agree the japs are experts on homolust.
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Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a patrician thing that the plebs were disgusted with, making them a prime target demographic for Christianity because it legitimizes their hatred of homosexuality
Of course plebs care about what other plebs think. It's how they synchronize. And if enough plebs wanted patrician degeneracy to disappear, it would make perfect sense for something like Christianity to go viral.
By and large homosexuality in of itself wasn't a big deal in the ancient world. Homophobia was down to the individual and there wasn't any real institutional or societal condemnation of it.
It really wasn't until the Abrahamic religions became dominant that homosexuality was made an issue.
Homosexuality become a thing during the time of prophet Ibrahim, smarty. Prophet Lot was his cousin.
Homosexuality was never accepted or this widespread like our times. It was never considered a normal thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Prophet Lot was his cousin
Just to correct myself, he was his nephew.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Homosexuality is older than mankind itself. And I said "By and large". What the Abrahamics in the Levant thought about it doesn't reflect or is relevant to the views and morality of the rest of the world.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well, if you think we are monkeys, I have nothing more to say to you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is this you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Considering that you're the one who thinks there's nothing wrong with homosexuality, I do wonder.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Da
Well, there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. Especially since the discovery of artificial insemination. It's just a rare quirk of character.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That "quirk" often comes with STDs, prolapsed ass holes, and domestic abuse.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But this character denies that humans are anything like monkeys in the episode. How could it not be anyone but you?
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By and large homosexuality in of itself wasn't a big deal in the ancient world. Homophobia was down to the individual and there wasn't any real institutional or societal condemnation of it.
It really wasn't until the Abrahamic religions became dominant that homosexuality was made an issue.
Homosexuality become a thing during the time of prophet Ibrahim, smarty. Prophet Lot was his cousin.
Homosexuality was never accepted or this widespread like our times. It was never considered a normal thing.
"Homosexuality" as it is understood these days was an invention of Enlightenment philosophers who wanted a non-moralistic explanation for the vice of sodomy (which was something any man could be tempted into). It was originally considered a mental illness until we started letting the lunatics run the asylum and turn it into a "lifestyle".
"Sexual orientation" is a myth promoted for political purposes. There are as many "sexual orientations" as there are humans; our sexuality is as individual as our fingerprints. It's easier to manipulate the masses, though, if you group them in their properly labeled boxes.
Sexual orientation is real. There are exclusively Heterosexual and Homosexual people. It's just Bisexuality probably is more common than first thought.
I don't know what kool aid you've been drinking but homosexuals themselves brag about their gay lifestyles. They specifically call it the "gay lifestyle". There's a whole culture around. For fricks sake, last month was completely dedicated to their butt fricking escapades. So don't give me that "only bigots" horseshit.
The point was that just because something wasn't defined, categorised or understood, doesn't mean it isn't real.
Well, if you think we are monkeys, I have nothing more to say to you.
We are primates. An intelligent species of primate, but primates none the less.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>We are primates. An intelligent species of primate, but primates none the less
When I see comments like this, I'm truly grateful that I'm not western. I almost feel bad for you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And I don't feel much about most third worlders. So, hey, we're both happy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Btw, the term "third world" was referring to countries remained non-aligned with either NATO or the Warsaw Pact during the Cold War. It's a political term, not an economic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh, you know what meant.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I know that you misunderstood the original and had no idea from where it came from. Ironically, it's another proof about the state of western world who think that they are super smart and better than the others.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well, good for you.You can keep that straw. Maybe even get it framed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Does it bother you that you're an omnivorous mammal?
makes sense in the ancient greek context (e.g. Ganymedes), however (going by the trailer) unlike the women and the twunks he didn't pass out looking at naked Thor's highly aesthetic body, thus preserving his masculinity and dignity
Yeah, convincing people by repeating the meme that homosexuality is a psyop obviously still isn't working. We'll have to come up with some better brainwashing tactics.
Yes and if you also happen to shapeshift into a female animal in heat, get fricked, impregnated by a male animal and then also give birth to his child, thats still straight bro. Any of us straight white men would do the same if we could.
he was forced by odin and thor to take 1 for the team.
because loki was the one who convinced them to accept the bet with the builder with freya as the price.
but odin never had any intention to give away freya even if he lost, so they resorted to cheating.
forcing loki to assume a female horse form, distract (and get fricked by) the builders massive horse.
and then later he gave birth to sleipnir the 8 legged horse
He didn't plan on that. He was distracting it and it unfortunately, for him, it caught up with.
Remember, it was the fate of the world at stake.
there was a story from norse myth where Loki gets drunk at a party and starts insulting/arguing with all the other gods. During the argument Odin accuses Loki of spending "eight winters" voluntarily living as a woman and having given birth to multiple children during that time.
The story he was talking about is lost to history but it obviously must have happened if other poems are referencing it.
It's implied Loki was raped by the magical male horse. He only transformed to distract it. Also, none of that implies an attraction to human/aesir males
Shape changers are almost always pan and trans sexual deviants.
Look a mystique.
It was born a little blue boy and has in canon raped people and knocked them up while getting fricked and getting knocked up as well.
In the sleazy gross xmen movies its hinted that mystique impersonated striker knocked up his wife and the mutant kid is gers.
And it's been that senator fir many years. Even keeping his wife and apparently getting her pregnant.
Shape changers are creepy gross monsters and anyone who likes them are low selfesteem perverts.
still most of his offspring turned into demi god heroes
meanwhile anyone and anything that poseidon fricked or raped spawned monsters like the cyclops.
and hades was the chill guy with 1 waifu that he loved, but the waifu had a massive possesive b***h of a mother.
there where only 2 greek gods that where pretty chill and didn't do any butthole stuff to mortals
Hestia (who even gave up seat on olympus so that drunk bastard Dionysus could sit there)
and Hades, who only got a bad rep for being in charge of the underworld and had a b***h as a mother in law.
half the story myths show that persephone whent with hades on her own free will because she loved him and wanted to get away from her overbearing possesive mother.
who trew a fit and killed the land, until the other gods begged zeus to talk to hades about releasing persephone.
but she had already eaten food from the underworld, so half the year she stayed with him and the other half with her b***h of a mother (explaining the changing seasons)
>Zeus turns into an animal and fricks every woman he can find >no problem at all >Zeus may have been curious about man pee pee >Society collapses in on itself, the seas turn red as blood, apples now taste like oranges, 9/11 times a million
Seriously you are the biggest homosexual to ever exist. I don't care if you've never even looked at your own dick, but this fricking obsession with what every fictional phallus possibly does off screen is the gayest shit I've ever seen.
it's ALL FANFICTION. Why do you think Zeus had so many bastard sons while married ? I'll tell you. Every city back then had their local hero, you see. And they all wanted their local hero to be a overpowered mary sue, way better than that stupid neighbour city's loser hero. So they all started saying their local hero was the son of Zeus.
Then when those frickers compiled all those folk tales thousands of years later, BAM! Zeus has one million bastard sons while being married. That Zeus is a fricking unloyal son of a b***h, huh?
>Our local hero is so bad ass >Thanks guys! >His mom fricked a bull! >Wait. What? >But the bull was Zeus. That's why he's so awesome! >My mom never- >All hail the son of a bull fricker!
This sounds so moronic, but I honestly believe you think it makes sense
They were moronic about a lot of things, but saying their local hero's mom was raped by a Zeus goose isn't really a brag. It sounds like something they would say against other local legends.
I'm sure some were meant to be insulting. Alexander the great supposedly being conceived when his mother was visited by Zeus in snake form might have been something his naysayers came up with to cheapen the "born from a god" rumors about him. Others, like gods taking on the form of a bull (an animal seen as both physically and sexually powerful) to conceive heros or Helen of Troy being fathered when Zeus was a swan (an animal seen as beautiful) comes off as more genuine and poetic, rather than insulting
Zeus only fricked little boys and anyone saying otherwise is lying. The whole "he was Bi back in mythology" ignores what he actually was by trying to pretend he was some modern sort of homosexual. He wasn't, he was a classical homosexual.
Entirely different.
All classical greek homosexualry was essentially pederasty that was in addition to fricking their wives.
that's true for literally all greek myths, they changed over time
if you really want to dig down >aphrodite doesn't exist, she is an import of astarte/ishtar >dionysus is old and powerful >posidion is the main god, not zeus
etc etc
if you don't want to dig down quite so much >aphrodite was a war goddess at some point >medea didn't kill her kids >pan probably isn't dead
or even closer in time to us,
everything in the metamorphoses is bullshit, written becuase ovid was banished from rome because he was fricking augustus's daughter
including, but not limited to >arachne getting turned into a spider becuase athena was jealous >medusa being a human girl before getting turned into a monster after posidion raped her
Nice, thanks. Bast of Egyptian myth was also a former war goddess. I already knew about Aphrodite being Astarte/Ishtar, not so much the other ones. Where did you learn these?
the greeks (specifically the stoics who were big in athens, sparta, thebes) believed that "women don't have souls and are incapable of feeling friendship, loyalty or love, so you can use them for babies but if you want romance you need another dude"
the spartans and thebans had their whole pedo cult on top of that ofc
Athens went with democracy because a gay tyrant made a pass at a gay model who turned him down, there was a catfight, the tyrant insulted the model's mom, and then the model's boyfriend stabbed him
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmodius_and_Aristogeiton
All I know is it's hilarious watching Cinemaphile freak out about Thor being a "cuck" because he's raising another daughter after over a year of people praising Arcane for the same damn thing. If it's wrong to take your enemy's daughter as your own and groom her to be a warrior, who wants to be right?
He'll the guy playing Thor has a blonde son that would have been eadmsily shown ad a young Thor.
Ngl I lost interest in Valkyrie and Korg after hearing they were gay. Korg is understandable becaue he's a rock monster with a different biology but I still hate it. Valkyrie is bisexual drunk who fricked anything including Hulk. Total degeneracy overload. Rip Korg, I loved you (no homo)
Him having a traditional human sexuality was just a way to low-key push homosexualry.
Should be entirely sexless and not have anything resembling romance.
Cuck was always a stupid word but it used to mean what it was supposed to mean, now morons on the internet use it for any remotely kind gesture towards anyone.
Yeah I don't know how the frick a man adopting an orphan makes him a cuck but I guess caring about anyone who isn't biologically related to you is a foreign concept to some people
The word "canon" originally referred to strict adherance to biblical text. All denominations and religious views are considered canon by their followers and heretics by those who disagree.
>filed off the serial numbers
that's a bit disingunious
for example, mars and ares are super different
as are iupiter and zeus
it's only after they got more and more contact with the greeks that the gods started to converge
i think their version of zeus, who they called jupiter wasn't that big of a rapist.
they also gave ares (who they called mars) more credit and presented him more then a bloodthirsty lunatic.
This film is femanist proganda. Of course it was JANE THOR who got the final hit on gorr because she is the better thor and the M-SHE_U wanted you to know it. She died so that she would always be the best thor. I feel more insulted they tried to hide it by pretending thor would go alone too. God this film really tripped at the finish line for me in the most insulting way. Frick insectional politics being injected into my comic media,fricking leftists man.
>so it turns out all the sex was added by the ancient equivalent of fanfiction writers.
This implies that there is an official writer for the Greek pantheon, which is of course moronic, just like you
i very rarely come out of the woodworks to say anything, because i usually just sit back and watch morons argue on Cinemaphile but something about this particular thread has struck me as uniquely moronic. I know logically that some of you frickers can go outside and maintain a normal life, right but some other part of me doubts that. There's this crippling fear that some network manager at some company browses this site and argues about the most petty boring and inconsequential things while im 18 feet away minding my own business. ive seen this exact same thread play out time and time and time again each time its gets less and less funny to watch.
does anyone here really care about the words they've typed? wouldn't they be better used constructively elsewhere?
this entire thread, and along with the majority of threads i've been subject to contain little to no informational or entertainment value. staring at a trainwreck might be entertaining for a bit but at the end of the hour its just a culmination of a super-failure.
Bruh this is Cinemaphile, yes this is a cesspool of cringe and self loathing, why are you even here if you find it obviously wrong. Like most of us you're probably addicted to that wrongness
>The earliest forms of the myth have no erotic content
I distinctly remember Gilgamesh fricking that priestess, prostitute lady. I don't know what you're quoting but they're full of shit
The Greeks were homosexuals, checks out.
Zeus is bi in the original mythos you dimwit.
Name a story where he is.
I was about to suggest that "you must have heard of Ganymede before", but realized that you're a fricking stooge that's incapable of reading above a 6th grade level.
Wasn't the dude just a cupbearer? Anything more concrete than your fetish projection?
>turned into a bull and fricked,
Fricked who? Is it a man?
If you want to deal with historical stuff you gotta stick with facts, otherwise you are peddling propaganda (aka fake news)
The Idea of Greek Heroes is Historical Revisionism, Hollywood Fabrication
Go to bed Xenophon's take on Socrates, you're outvoted; also dead.
>Wasn't the dude just a cupbearer?
and tea boys just serve tea
Zeus fricked his cupbearer, pictured Rape of Ganymede
Made by Renaissance gays.
>no proof
Just admit it's your fujo fantasy, no one will judge.
I fricking hate Americans and brits translate "kidnapping" with "rape".
>I fricking hate Americans and brits translate "kidnapping" with "rape".
both are lacking in consent, rapist.
Technically true but it's never said in any version of the myths that the sexual intercourse that happened later wasn't consensual.
The rape ones are just an interpretation and actually there are plenty of stories like the birth of Dyonisus or the myth of Eros and Psyche where it's implied that both the parties were willing.
So in the worst case scenario it was a "Beauty and the Beast kind of deal"
>So in the worst case scenario it was a "Beauty and the Beast kind of deal"
Dude what the frick are you high right now? No, idiot, when bronze age warriors kidnapped women they raped them.
But they were not mortals warriors
They were gods
.
And I can't imagine a god with self respect raping someone.
Rape is used by people that wouldn't be able to lay with the person in other way other than that, ergo a wretch of society also as all powerful being they would be able to seduce mortals without need of violence.
I was in fact using it as an example of a willing relationship between a God and a mortal.
Sorry, I may miss tiped something.
>Rape is used by people that wouldn't be able to lay with the person in other way other than that, ergo a wretch of society also as all powerful being they would be able to seduce mortals without need of violence.
What? Plenty of powerful/successful/rich men have raped women or molested children. If you lack respect for others or see them as playthings to do with as you please, then forcing yourself on someone isn't too far of a jump.
I would say that no matter their wealth and importance those people could still be considered wretch of society.
My point is knowing that you needed to force to a mortal instead of that mortal spontaneously given themselves would be seen as a sign of incompetence in front to a powerful beings.
As above is not really a matter of respecting the will of the mortals but more a matter of self values if the other gods discovered you needed to rape someone even with all your wealth a power they'd think you are a damn failure without an inch of charisma and status and respect is something the Olympians cared a lot.
I know the myth about Callisto but there Zaus use trickery to get what he desire in this way still showing cunning and not brute force.
In Greek mythology gods are yes stronger but not more intelligent of mortals so overpowering with force would be seen as nothing special but out tricking someone would.
What Zeus did in that situation was still terrible and morally wrong but still not rape.
bro are you ACTUALLY arguing that zeus of all people isn't a rapist
A morally anbigous and jerk at times
Absouletly he is.
Rapist nope.
>And I can't imagine a god with self respect raping someone.
Assuming a god actually cared for a mortal is a Christian conceit.
The pagans understood that their gods treated mortals as playthings. As far as a pagan god was concerned, he was doing a mortal woman an honor by raping her; it showed that she was good enough to for him to have sex with.
>Assuming a god actually cared for a mortal is a Christian conceit.
The Judaeo-Christian god only cared for his people and gave his chosen free reign to launch a genocide on the "promised land" and collect every virgin girl as rape brides.
Sounds like you're describing an Abrahamic god but not a Judaeo-Christian one.
Gensis 34 is no longer in the bible?
That was just Jacob's sons wiping out one city's males in revenge for the rape of their sister.
But yeah, at Jericho the Israelites were instructed to fricking genocide the whole population, not even to take prisoners. Same for when the Lord ordered them to eradicate the Canaanites. Several battles are described as being like that.
Old Testament God was brutal as hell, not just the Muslim version
>And I can't imagine a god with self respect raping someone.
bro, do you even know zeus
he once pretended to be his lesbian daughter to frick one of her lesbian friends
>or the myth of Eros and Psyche
I have literally never heard a story that implied that that wasn't consensual, it was just that eros's mom is a possessive b***h
>the woman goes through a bunch of bullshit trials while pregnant and aphrodite kept on bullying her
seriously
>Wasn't the dude just a cupbearer
Not really:
>One of the earliest depictions of Ganymede is a red-figure krater
>Zeus pursues Ganymede on one side, while the youth runs away on the other side, rolling along a hoop while holding aloft a crowing wiener
>wieners were common gifts from older male suitors to younger men they were interested in romantically in 5th century Athens.
"you eant me to paint Zeus holding WHAT?"
>wieners were common gifts from older male suitors to younger men they were interested in romantically in 5th century Athens.
Were roosters synonymous with penis even back then?
Underrated post
>Wasn't the dude just a cupbearer? Anything more concrete than your fetish projection?
Plato uses Ganymede as an example of a sexually consummated pederastic relationship in the Phadreus. Homer mentions Zeus's love of Ganymde in the Illiad.
>Plato
>Homer
As good as Shakespeare.
Ganymede and Zeus are not real people. We can only know them through poetic references. They don't and cannot exist beyond the writings of ancient Greeks.
Implying there aren't volumes of oral tradition that might color the understanding of the stories even without being officially written down
That's true, but we don't have access to that.
So we must take great care NOT to mix what we do know with what we want it to be.
Rome was ages after Greece declined.
You know what he meant, no need to go full lawyer sophistry on the definitions.
Plato literally criticized the interpretation of the myth as originating from the Cretans to justify their "unnatural desires" so yes that was a well known interpretation back then and homosex was common back then. Albeit shit varied from city state to city state.
dude zeus literally turned into a bull and fricked, the dude was the head god of a culture who had a holiday where dudes would get drunk frick teenage boys and then go home and beat their wives. he fricked anything he wanted male female or animal.
Ganymede.
This, he was famous for impregnating a lot of e-girls
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganymede_(mythology)
was he? I knew poseidon was canon bi i didn't think Zeus was
There's no canon of Greek mythology.
What about in the original Marvel comics? We all know the Marvel gods differ from the ancient ones.
His son Herc is a turbo bi bawd in the marvel comics and has a twink boyfriend.
Yeah but he didn't start out that way, besides that's Herc not Zeus.
They could have made Thor bi, but they didn't.
I think a man who become a animal in order to frick women isn't into femboys too?
But would a man who became a piss rain in order to frick a woman? Check mate
He also fricked boys
According to the Edda, both Odin and Thor crossdressed more than once
no, they disguised themselves. for the purpose of subterfuge. That is not the same as crossdressing for the sake of perversion
Sounds more like a burlesque piece done by a drag queen to me, https://norse-mythology.org/tales/thor-the-transvestite/
Dude it's literally some cartoon shenanigans, not a drama about Thor's identity
The amount of boy fricking that was happening in Ancient Greece was enormous and well documented anon.
Homosexuality bore the death penalty in Athens at one point though
arent they saying vikings were QUEER now?
Loki canonically turned into a mare, had sex with a stallion and foaled.
Odin crossdressed to learn seiðr, the magic reserved to women.
Much like in ancient greece, being gay and active wasn't common but ok, being passive was considered "weak"
At what point in history? Before or after Christianity became more common? Also what did "homosexual" mean to them when they outlawed it? Was it two adult men, or did still count if it was a man and a youth?
yes it was mostly thebes and sparta that had their whole boyfricking cults
but pederastery was common all over greece
>different city-states at different times had different laws over the 1000+ year history of ancient and classical Greece
homie you're an embarassment
Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a patrician thing that the plebs were disgusted with, making them a prime target demographic for Christianity because it legitimizes their hatred of homosexuality
Do you, as a pleb, honestly care what plebs think about anything at all?
Of course plebs care about what other plebs think. It's how they synchronize. And if enough plebs wanted patrician degeneracy to disappear, it would make perfect sense for something like Christianity to go viral.
The lgbt inclusion in this movie tried to be natural but was just weird
I read Valkyrie's bisexuality is barely even there.
>They
The ancient greeks?
Anons pointing at Ganymede don't realise that there is not just one version of the story and even the ancient Athenians said those elements were just Cretan fanfiction/paederasty.
Even the abductor of the cup bearer depended on which culture told the story.
And equating raping "beautiful" little boys in the ass to being bi probably has nothing to do with whatever OP is complaining about, since if it's MCU (or whatever Cinemaphile thread this is) I doubt they'd ever depict "sexual emergency" sexuality since catamites are not socially acceptable in modernity.
Yes. Humanity's never changed.
Their source is encyclopaedia britannica. You can also see a similar piece on wikipedia.
They probably do but that version is also probably the one where King Minos, the Cretan King, abducts him.
Everyone knows Apollo was the real homosexual god anyway
Very least Bi.
He feel in love for many mortal women and nymph Dafne being the most famous
Ganymedegays really gonna see a boy being called beautiful and cream about fricking his ass.
Mental illness is what it is, damn coomers.
>people literally defending pederasty in this thread
Kek and they wonder why they're hated.
t.never read greek mythos
Cry about it
Estar casado no es razon para no ser un golfo
He was ALWAYS bi, even in the myths. He turned into an Eagle and took Ganymede to Mt. Olympus to be his cupbearer.
i like how you didnt noticed Zeus was into lady boys
Greek sexuality was a lot looser back then, Homosexuality wasnt really a concept. Legally you married your wife but that was really only for property and children. You could never see her again and prostitute it out with every sailor on the sea and still be considered heterosexual in ancient greece
In what cave where you living anon?
Plato's?
Op spend his life chained on a cave with a sign saying Zeus was straight, but when he finally crawled out and saw reality he just doubled down on what he saw in the cave.
>not using the enhanced version
shiggy
You know greeks were all a bunch of homosexuals right?
Nobody knows, most people didn't know how to write and men with money and easier lives usually end up being educated edgy gays (like the guys who wrote and changed Hercules mythos over and over again)
The same thing happened in the medieval times with knights, a lot of those stories were approved by the royalty
Same thing happened with some miracles and in israeli books too.
I think Zeus was a gay though, never cared about him cause i find him uninteresting
The same thing happens now.
Rich powerful perverts changing popular myths stories and culture from the top down to promote and force their insanity among the slave class.
If they shut down discussion of what's being shown like how they don't want open talks about children being indoctrinated with media snd in classrooms them you know it's true.
Didn’t Korg mention his mom in Ragnarok? It was weird to hear he suddenly had two dads in this movie. Also I didn’t expect them to make Miek female but ok I guess?
Sword and sandal movies have always been smut. so i don't know what's the problem with accurately representing the greek gods, who did fricked up stuff like having sex with kids
Why does no one ever talk about the pedo shit rich greeks did. They only bring up gay stuff.
Because they keep using the Greeks as a proof why homosexuality should be considered "normal". Pointing this out won't help their agenda
You should try not acting like a fricking moron next time.
I'm curious to know which part triggered you.
pedophilia also was not a concept in ancient Greece
it was ok to frick trees, animals and literal holes in the ground. Literal holes, in the ground.
Literal.
Holes.
In.
the.
Ground.
Orgies were a friday activity. STDs were rampant to the point it was like the common cold. Prostitution was legal and so common monogamy wasnt a thing. Fricking a knot hole in a bridge was a symbolism of blessing, if your dick got caught in a sheep, as long as it your sheep there was no problem
There was no sexual shame (for men) Thats a modern christen thing
for frick sakes get some historical context
There was SOME sexual shame for men. Or at least, for the Boys. You couldn't be seen as TOO eager to get on with the bottoming, even if you really did want to learn philosophy and so forth.
>pedo was not a concept
Just because they didn't have a name for it doesn't mean it didn't happen. They still did it.
Greeks are a cornerstone of media to use. Starts getting hard for disney and the like to use Hercules if he has close ties to pedo shit.
Similar to how no one brings up Boy Scouts or religion having huge problems with pedos running about.
>if
he fricked his underage nephew, the son of his mortal twin brother
Every god is a gay.
.....You're actually mad about this? HE'S FRICKING GREEK, LITERALLY
moron alert!
Imagine thinking that Zeus wouldn't be into Greek twinoids like any ancient Greek was
Americans are famous for being gays and fatasses, doesn't mean Biden is one.
Zeus would frick anything that moves and most things that don't. In one myth he abducted Ganymede, a prince of Troy, to serve as a sex slave on Olympus. He also assumed animal form on many occasions to sleep with women.
He's what happens when a man gets Godlike powers and an infinite amount of time. Nothing left to do but start having sex that gradually gets fricking weird.
>gradually
It's pretty funny how most Greek mythology is just the consequenes of Zeus refusing to keep it in his pants, and Hera taking her anger at his cheating out on his illegitment kids and mostly unaware mistresses because Zeus is immortal.
Come to think of it, Greek gods were dicks weren't they? Plus everyone esentially goes to what would otherwise be seen as hell
>Come to think of it, Greek gods were dicks weren't they?
No offence but that's the first thing everyone learns about them.
Greek Gods are dicks, yes. Greek tragedies are constantly one of the following.
>Gods are buttholes, deal with it
>You can't escape fate, and fate is an butthole, deal with it
>Incest is best for horrible endings, deal with it
>Greek Myth is the original Marvel Cinematic Universe, and everyone sucks, deal with it
>Zeus. Fricks. Everyone. deal with it
>The Gods will strike you down for something that you'll only do incidentally by accident because you were avoiding the thing the Gods said they'd strike you down for, making them super buttholes. Deal with it.
I wonder how high the suicide rates were back then? Since everyone goes the the undworld anyway
if you killed yourself you went to the worst Hades so probably less than modern day, since theyd probably die of poverty before being able to kill themself
Not sure about rates but their ideology was largely "Don't suicide unless A, the Gods say you should or B, you really have no other options. If you suicide you're unmanly/cowardly/wasting potential."
greeks where afraid of death.
and the greek underworld had 3 different places you could go too
- Tartarus (the worst place)
- Asphodel Meadows (bad place)
- Elysium/Elysian Fields/Isles of the Blessed (the good place)
What?
No stupid.
The underworld has nothing to do with the modern invention called catholic hell
Its just a rip off if the river styx where everyone goes to their just reward.
Ngl I lost interest in Valkyrie and Korg after hearing they were gay. Korg is understandable becaue he's a rock monster with a different biology but I still hate it. Valkyrie is bisexual drunk who fricked anything including Hulk. Total degeneracy overload. Rip Korg, I loved you (no homo)
Lol
In the comic they show how his race reproduce, basically when two Korgs love each other very much they go to a volcano and shake fist until the rock melts and a baby comes out.
This.
It's less like sex and more like a mutual budding...or something. Rock monsters melting their hands together to form a new rock monster doesn't count as "gay" in my book.
>Valkyrie is bisexual drunk who fricked anything including Hulk. Total degeneracy overload
Way to make her sound based as frick, homosexual.
A massive prostitute?
Anon...
That's every other loser future catlady/beta female on earth.
Good to hang with and blow her back out.
But God help you if you don't pull out or thr condom breaks.
Especially if she realizes her time on her back knees or wearing a strap on makes her hot radioactive garbage in term of relationship material her clock is ticking and she hinted at settling down ir wanting kids.
They breed like Gorons from Zelda. Even a child can understand this.
>Valkyrie is bisexual drunk who fricked anything including Hulk. Total degeneracy overload.
Sounds like historically accurate nords to me
You don't get to use the "historically accurate" excuse for these movies when they have a black man playing the whitest god in the Nordic pantheon and a black woman playing a blonde Valkyrie.
Marvel Asgard was never accurate to begin with. Why don't you b***h this much about Loki being Thor's jealous step brother?
newflash, the greeks were omega gay
They srsly were. They were hypersexual homosexuals.
>Greek
>Greek God
>Not bi
You know nothing but making shit bait
When will society just admit that being gay is a choice? Every argument from the gay gene to the spectrum just sounds like a big distraction.
Are you saying you can get hard by a male touch if you feel like doing it? That's pretty fricking gay, you homosexual.
The thing about grooming gaslighting and propaganda is that it works.
Sexuality can be altered with manipulation and chemistry. Look army what was done to the wachowskis. Read up on it.
Shaming men is also a way fir the predators and manipulators to shut down honest discussion.
Look at the sheer amount of self destructive emotionally damaging shit that simps do for even a whiff of mediocre pussy.
If guys could choose to opt out of that don't you think they would?
Esa aguila que va por ti
>ancient greeks were gay
>I mean, I have never read the sources...
> but ERRYONE knows it!
>Dude it's ok to be a homosexual; Zeus was a homosexual and Greeks were totally cool!
The ironic is that they don't seem to realize that the homosexuality and their hyper sexual lives are what pretty much lead to their downfall. Exactly like what is happening to the western world right now
>homosexuality and their hyper sexual lives are what pretty much lead to their downfall
Are you one of those rare morons who have just never heard of a little thing called "the Roman empire"?
I'm the one who knows that modern history books are full of lies and that schools have brainwashed people like you
So when it's your word against the recorded evidence of people who actually lived in that time period... people should believe you because (checks notes) "books are gay and school sucks"?
The thing that came along hundreds of years after the decline of Greek civilization?
The guy probably thinks homosex was the sole reason the greeks lost to the romans, even though the conqured every nation around the mediterranean regardless of how stoic or degenerate they were
You know funny thing
Sparta lost to an literal army of homosexuals, the great mythical Sparta. Losing, to an LITERAL ARMY OF HOMOSEXUALS
>great mythical Sparta
Everyone now knows Sparta is a paper tiger. They never won any war where they are at a disadvantage.
>pretty much lead to their downfall. Exactly like what is happening to the western world
And lots of other empires have fallen for plenty of non-sexual reasons. It is almost like governmental systems aren't designed to last for eternity.
It actually fell after the introduction to Christianity lol
I thought the romans were esentially prudes and utilitarian by necessity after centuries of decline by the time the empire fell
Yes. The wealthy changed the myths so that their proclivities would be accepted and lionized.
Which is why Christianity took hold.
The Greek and Roman gods are entirely evil. Ironically enough. Hades is the most fair and honest snd noble god.
Are zoomer culture warriors really this fricking dumb?
>make Zeus bi
>make
>Americans haven't heard about the Ganymedussy
Don't tell them, they are too busy watching Black folks have sex with landwhales, more femboys for us.
>Sabu
Nice
You really don't know much about Greek mythology do ya. It's 90%+ zues stuck his dick in something and everyone else dealing with the consequences.
Bruh, Zeus Fricks
>They just had to make Zeus bi too huh?
In antiquity it generally didn't matter who you fricked, so long as you were on top.
Being masculine was what mattered. It wasn't until a certain sect of Judaism, that is better known as Christianity, became mainstream that homosexuality was seen as "immoral".
>In antiquity it generally didn't matter who you fricked, so long as you were on top.
This is true in Rome, but less so ancient Athens. It was much more explicitly about age there. I was okay to be fricked as a freeborn boy, but not for that same person to be fricked as an adult.
They might have been true only for Athens, for only that particular period of time and for a particular social class
Remember, each of the Greek Polis were a nation unto themselves, with their own laws and customs.
Also, Rome was an continental spanning empire that lasted for centuries. Athens was a city state. One's going to be more influential than the other.
It's painful to see the results of modern education.
Homosexuality was always, always immoral and not accepted.
History says otherwise.
No, it doesn't. The first people to commit homosexuality were the people of Lot and we know what happened to them. Homosexuality was always immoral.
It depends on whether you're a woman hater or a young male appreciator. The latter isn't gay, it says so in the Great Mirror of Male Love and I think we all agree the japs are experts on homolust.
We all know it's.
By and large homosexuality in of itself wasn't a big deal in the ancient world. Homophobia was down to the individual and there wasn't any real institutional or societal condemnation of it.
It really wasn't until the Abrahamic religions became dominant that homosexuality was made an issue.
Homosexuality become a thing during the time of prophet Ibrahim, smarty. Prophet Lot was his cousin.
Homosexuality was never accepted or this widespread like our times. It was never considered a normal thing.
>Prophet Lot was his cousin
Just to correct myself, he was his nephew.
Homosexuality is older than mankind itself. And I said "By and large". What the Abrahamics in the Levant thought about it doesn't reflect or is relevant to the views and morality of the rest of the world.
Well, if you think we are monkeys, I have nothing more to say to you.
Is this you?
Considering that you're the one who thinks there's nothing wrong with homosexuality, I do wonder.
Da
Well, there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. Especially since the discovery of artificial insemination. It's just a rare quirk of character.
That "quirk" often comes with STDs, prolapsed ass holes, and domestic abuse.
But this character denies that humans are anything like monkeys in the episode. How could it not be anyone but you?
"Homosexuality" as it is understood these days was an invention of Enlightenment philosophers who wanted a non-moralistic explanation for the vice of sodomy (which was something any man could be tempted into). It was originally considered a mental illness until we started letting the lunatics run the asylum and turn it into a "lifestyle".
>and turn it into a "lifestyle".
Only bigots call a sexual orientation a lifestyle.
"Sexual orientation" is a myth promoted for political purposes. There are as many "sexual orientations" as there are humans; our sexuality is as individual as our fingerprints. It's easier to manipulate the masses, though, if you group them in their properly labeled boxes.
Sexual orientation is real. There are exclusively Heterosexual and Homosexual people. It's just Bisexuality probably is more common than first thought.
I don't know what kool aid you've been drinking but homosexuals themselves brag about their gay lifestyles. They specifically call it the "gay lifestyle". There's a whole culture around. For fricks sake, last month was completely dedicated to their butt fricking escapades. So don't give me that "only bigots" horseshit.
Oxygen wasn't "discovered" until 1774. By your logic, until that point nobody needed to breathe.
Are all social constructs atoms? Which atoms are your gaping anus?
The point was that just because something wasn't defined, categorised or understood, doesn't mean it isn't real.
We are primates. An intelligent species of primate, but primates none the less.
>We are primates. An intelligent species of primate, but primates none the less
When I see comments like this, I'm truly grateful that I'm not western. I almost feel bad for you.
And I don't feel much about most third worlders. So, hey, we're both happy.
Btw, the term "third world" was referring to countries remained non-aligned with either NATO or the Warsaw Pact during the Cold War. It's a political term, not an economic.
Oh, you know what meant.
I know that you misunderstood the original and had no idea from where it came from. Ironically, it's another proof about the state of western world who think that they are super smart and better than the others.
Well, good for you.You can keep that straw. Maybe even get it framed.
Does it bother you that you're an omnivorous mammal?
Yeah, people didn't realize they are breathing air until 1774.
I'm being sarcastic btw.
>which was something any man could be tempted into
Repressing your latent homosexuality by hating gay people isn't very original
Denying your humanity, warts and all, isn't very original either.
Humans are primates and a part of the animal kingdom. Are you one of the bible thumpers who doesn't believe in evolution?
Answer this honestly, do you believe dinosaurs existed 65 million years ago?
This thread reminds me of a previous time when some anon got assmad that a piece of media mentioned Loki being pansexual
makes sense in the ancient greek context (e.g. Ganymedes), however (going by the trailer) unlike the women and the twunks he didn't pass out looking at naked Thor's highly aesthetic body, thus preserving his masculinity and dignity
Damn even in ancient Greece shippers ruin everything.
Zeus has always been "if it has a hole, it has god filling".
Damn bro it's almost like the Hellenic religion was not a single coherent story but the product of many writers and culture's stories
>Homosexuality is older than mankind itself
The brainwashing is legit worse than I thought.
Homosexuality has been observed in other species. Therefore, homosexuality was around before mankind.
Yeah, convincing people by repeating the meme that homosexuality is a psyop obviously still isn't working. We'll have to come up with some better brainwashing tactics.
Source?
Religion is literally all fanfiction. How have you not realized this?
Religion is fanfiction, but a man who think he knows what happened centuries ago and that we are animals are "true science".
Unironically both are true and you're just a moron.
Yes. Stay filtered Christcuck.
Go jack off about burning bushes somewhere else, homosexual.
We've already been over this
Reminder that Loki wasn't a gay either in myths. For leftoids, being a shapeshifter automatically makes you a gay
Shapeshifting into something to get fricked like a female and then returning to male form is a straight thing to do, is it?
Yes and if you also happen to shapeshift into a female animal in heat, get fricked, impregnated by a male animal and then also give birth to his child, thats still straight bro. Any of us straight white men would do the same if we could.
He was making a distraction and took one for the team.
The world was saved and Woden got a cool horse. It worked out for the best.
he was forced by odin and thor to take 1 for the team.
because loki was the one who convinced them to accept the bet with the builder with freya as the price.
but odin never had any intention to give away freya even if he lost, so they resorted to cheating.
forcing loki to assume a female horse form, distract (and get fricked by) the builders massive horse.
and then later he gave birth to sleipnir the 8 legged horse
The was no dishonesty on the part of the Gods. It was the Jotun who was in the wrong, as he was hiding his identity and his intentions.
To be fair, he was trying to distract a horse from assisting a Jotun trying to end the world.
Loki didn't *want* to do it. But there was little choice.
there was a story from norse myth where Loki gets drunk at a party and starts insulting/arguing with all the other gods. During the argument Odin accuses Loki of spending "eight winters" voluntarily living as a woman and having given birth to multiple children during that time.
The story he was talking about is lost to history but it obviously must have happened if other poems are referencing it.
>Jotun trying to end the world.
Didn't the giant just want to marry one of the goddess?
You're thinking of when Thor crossdressed to trick a Jotun attempting to court Freya.
It's implied Loki was raped by the magical male horse. He only transformed to distract it. Also, none of that implies an attraction to human/aesir males
Loki is only gay for male horses, I see.
Not even gods can resist the horse wiener
He didn't plan on that. He was distracting it and it unfortunately, for him, it caught up with.
Remember, it was the fate of the world at stake.
Shape changers are almost always pan and trans sexual deviants.
Look a mystique.
It was born a little blue boy and has in canon raped people and knocked them up while getting fricked and getting knocked up as well.
In the sleazy gross xmen movies its hinted that mystique impersonated striker knocked up his wife and the mutant kid is gers.
And it's been that senator fir many years. Even keeping his wife and apparently getting her pregnant.
Shape changers are creepy gross monsters and anyone who likes them are low selfesteem perverts.
If it had a hole, zeus would frick it.
Often as an animal. Zeus was a degenerate who loved to force himself on mortals as a goose or a bull.
still most of his offspring turned into demi god heroes
meanwhile anyone and anything that poseidon fricked or raped spawned monsters like the cyclops.
and hades was the chill guy with 1 waifu that he loved, but the waifu had a massive possesive b***h of a mother.
there where only 2 greek gods that where pretty chill and didn't do any butthole stuff to mortals
Hestia (who even gave up seat on olympus so that drunk bastard Dionysus could sit there)
and Hades, who only got a bad rep for being in charge of the underworld and had a b***h as a mother in law.
HESTIA is BESTIA
La mas vieja y la mas chica.
I aint Spanish but I appreciate their music compadre
Amen
>umaru hestia
Hnnnng muh heart
Hades abducted Persephone though
he got permission from her dad first. that's all that matters in ancient Greece.
half the story myths show that persephone whent with hades on her own free will because she loved him and wanted to get away from her overbearing possesive mother.
who trew a fit and killed the land, until the other gods begged zeus to talk to hades about releasing persephone.
but she had already eaten food from the underworld, so half the year she stayed with him and the other half with her b***h of a mother (explaining the changing seasons)
To Zeus there is no such thing as gay or straight. Just penetrator and penetrated.
That accounts for most of antiquity, not just Zeus.
Anyone have a pic of Hercules?
>Zeus turns into an animal and fricks every woman he can find
>no problem at all
>Zeus may have been curious about man pee pee
>Society collapses in on itself, the seas turn red as blood, apples now taste like oranges, 9/11 times a million
Seriously you are the biggest homosexual to ever exist. I don't care if you've never even looked at your own dick, but this fricking obsession with what every fictional phallus possibly does off screen is the gayest shit I've ever seen.
it's ALL FANFICTION. Why do you think Zeus had so many bastard sons while married ? I'll tell you. Every city back then had their local hero, you see. And they all wanted their local hero to be a overpowered mary sue, way better than that stupid neighbour city's loser hero. So they all started saying their local hero was the son of Zeus.
Then when those frickers compiled all those folk tales thousands of years later, BAM! Zeus has one million bastard sons while being married. That Zeus is a fricking unloyal son of a b***h, huh?
>Our local hero is so bad ass
>Thanks guys!
>His mom fricked a bull!
>Wait. What?
>But the bull was Zeus. That's why he's so awesome!
>My mom never-
>All hail the son of a bull fricker!
This sounds so moronic, but I honestly believe you think it makes sense
We're talking about an ancient society that didn't believe lions could mate with other Lions
They were moronic about a lot of things, but saying their local hero's mom was raped by a Zeus goose isn't really a brag. It sounds like something they would say against other local legends.
Eh, people got creative when it came to "unexpected pregnancies" back in the day
I'm sure some were meant to be insulting. Alexander the great supposedly being conceived when his mother was visited by Zeus in snake form might have been something his naysayers came up with to cheapen the "born from a god" rumors about him. Others, like gods taking on the form of a bull (an animal seen as both physically and sexually powerful) to conceive heros or Helen of Troy being fathered when Zeus was a swan (an animal seen as beautiful) comes off as more genuine and poetic, rather than insulting
Fricking a bull sounds like a brag to me, those things are crazy strong.
Because muh diversity
>literary Zeus the god who would frick a rock if he wanted to
>barely even hinting the nymphomaniac tendencies
>muh woke garbage
not my heckin god of rape
Zeus only fricked little boys and anyone saying otherwise is lying. The whole "he was Bi back in mythology" ignores what he actually was by trying to pretend he was some modern sort of homosexual. He wasn't, he was a classical homosexual.
Entirely different.
All classical greek homosexualry was essentially pederasty that was in addition to fricking their wives.
There is literally nothing wrong with rape.
>chud/pol ragebait thread
>thirsty OP farming for yous
>Cinemaphile losers fall for it every time
The beta grindset...
>he doesn't know
>The REAL Zeus wouldn't frick men and rape children!
that's true for literally all greek myths, they changed over time
if you really want to dig down
>aphrodite doesn't exist, she is an import of astarte/ishtar
>dionysus is old and powerful
>posidion is the main god, not zeus
etc etc
if you don't want to dig down quite so much
>aphrodite was a war goddess at some point
>medea didn't kill her kids
>pan probably isn't dead
or even closer in time to us,
everything in the metamorphoses is bullshit, written becuase ovid was banished from rome because he was fricking augustus's daughter
including, but not limited to
>arachne getting turned into a spider becuase athena was jealous
>medusa being a human girl before getting turned into a monster after posidion raped her
>aphrodite was a war goddess at some point
Source?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_Areia
Nice, thanks. Bast of Egyptian myth was also a former war goddess. I already knew about Aphrodite being Astarte/Ishtar, not so much the other ones. Where did you learn these?
the greeks (specifically the stoics who were big in athens, sparta, thebes) believed that "women don't have souls and are incapable of feeling friendship, loyalty or love, so you can use them for babies but if you want romance you need another dude"
the spartans and thebans had their whole pedo cult on top of that ofc
Athens went with democracy because a gay tyrant made a pass at a gay model who turned him down, there was a catfight, the tyrant insulted the model's mom, and then the model's boyfriend stabbed him
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmodius_and_Aristogeiton
All I know is it's hilarious watching Cinemaphile freak out about Thor being a "cuck" because he's raising another daughter after over a year of people praising Arcane for the same damn thing. If it's wrong to take your enemy's daughter as your own and groom her to be a warrior, who wants to be right?
Everyone.
And Gor had a son.
Not a daughter.
He'll the guy playing Thor has a blonde son that would have been eadmsily shown ad a young Thor.
Him having a traditional human sexuality was just a way to low-key push homosexualry.
Should be entirely sexless and not have anything resembling romance.
Cuck was always a stupid word but it used to mean what it was supposed to mean, now morons on the internet use it for any remotely kind gesture towards anyone.
Yeah I don't know how the frick a man adopting an orphan makes him a cuck but I guess caring about anyone who isn't biologically related to you is a foreign concept to some people
Awful movie
Dast ist gut .anon
>They just had to make a god from the gayest pantheon in history bi huh?
OP are you fricking moronic? Yes. Yes you are.
The word "canon" originally referred to strict adherance to biblical text. All denominations and religious views are considered canon by their followers and heretics by those who disagree.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes
Ganymede
Well, do the earliest forms of the myth mention Ganymede's beauty?
Did the Romans do it better when they filed off the serial numbers and presented it as OC?
>filed off the serial numbers
that's a bit disingunious
for example, mars and ares are super different
as are iupiter and zeus
it's only after they got more and more contact with the greeks that the gods started to converge
Yes but could you use a less Japanese image?
I can see the anime sameface even when it's pixelised.
i think their version of zeus, who they called jupiter wasn't that big of a rapist.
they also gave ares (who they called mars) more credit and presented him more then a bloodthirsty lunatic.
Zeus was bi in the source material, you super dink.
Who is the one turning away?
can we talk about the real issue which was when he'd slip into Italian parody instead of greek
Yeah that was genuinely weird, like hearing a Greek character talking like their British in that Hades game. but nah let's complain about his boy toys
If there's any deity you can joke about fricking everything that moved, couldn't move and in between that's Zeuz
The Greeks were degenerate boy frickers.
So, yeah, checks out.
This film is femanist proganda. Of course it was JANE THOR who got the final hit on gorr because she is the better thor and the M-SHE_U wanted you to know it. She died so that she would always be the best thor. I feel more insulted they tried to hide it by pretending thor would go alone too. God this film really tripped at the finish line for me in the most insulting way. Frick insectional politics being injected into my comic media,fricking leftists man.
Okay, but all this means is that Zeus has still been bi for like sixteen centuries before Thor Love and Thunder.
>people call him gay
>that means he is!
Bigot
bro zeus fricked animals
he was more than bi frick all sorts of things
Zeus sees a hole, that hole becomes officially his. Plus he role plays as chairs and animals alot so he's like the weirdest rapist
>homophobic anons so paranoid that the super rapist in all of fiction wasn't a straight white male
>t.gay agenda terrified if open honest discussion.
You want to claim him as if he's "your guy", the gays are at least being honest
I'm not claiming anyone. The Greek and Roman gods are unironicalky evil monsters with only the God hades being slightly good
You just tried to say the "gay agenda" is making Zeus queer
How did you get that out of my post?
And yeah they are making him bi. He could have been straight regal cool. Olympus could have been set up like a business with Zeus being the ceo.
homie he's fricking 4 girls, and for all we know, his two dudes are eunuchs which for that culture where the "transwomen"
I like Lore Olympus too, but shut the frick up.
>so it turns out all the sex was added by the ancient equivalent of fanfiction writers.
This implies that there is an official writer for the Greek pantheon, which is of course moronic, just like you
>Its wrong because some people may have said so, which we have no records of.
Zeus was a perpetually horny degenerate, its par per course
>They just had to make Zeus bi too huh?
Fantastic bait.
Oh my god, gen1ers in Greek mythology, this is gold.
This is some god level bait.
Remember kids, the probability of your pets being ZAY-OOS with imminent intent to frick you is LOW but never zero.
The only choice to to be too disgusting for Zeus' tastes.
ES ZEUS!
>Obvious Bait
>Or dumbass?
i very rarely come out of the woodworks to say anything, because i usually just sit back and watch morons argue on Cinemaphile but something about this particular thread has struck me as uniquely moronic. I know logically that some of you frickers can go outside and maintain a normal life, right but some other part of me doubts that. There's this crippling fear that some network manager at some company browses this site and argues about the most petty boring and inconsequential things while im 18 feet away minding my own business. ive seen this exact same thread play out time and time and time again each time its gets less and less funny to watch.
does anyone here really care about the words they've typed? wouldn't they be better used constructively elsewhere?
this entire thread, and along with the majority of threads i've been subject to contain little to no informational or entertainment value. staring at a trainwreck might be entertaining for a bit but at the end of the hour its just a culmination of a super-failure.
Bruh this is Cinemaphile, yes this is a cesspool of cringe and self loathing, why are you even here if you find it obviously wrong. Like most of us you're probably addicted to that wrongness
top ten most homosexual posts of Cinemaphile history number 7: this homie right here
>exact same thread play out time and time and time again
you do realize half of the posts and replies are bots, right?
you know jack shit about greek mythos
>The earliest forms of the myth have no erotic content
I distinctly remember Gilgamesh fricking that priestess, prostitute lady. I don't know what you're quoting but they're full of shit