They have convinced themselves that someone from "every background" needs to be involved in the writing because you aren't allowed to write characters if you are white without someone correcting your work. That's why everything is soulless slop now. So a bunch of talentless hacks who all have the same worldview think they are including "diverse perspectives" because they all clap in agreement when they share their inoffensive ideas and dull down any possible creative edge. This all became clear to me when I watched the Zoe Kravitz movie about an anxiety-ridden POC tech worker living in the post-covid world. They literally can't make anything up.
>That's why everything is soulless slop now.
No, it isn't. That's why mass market entertainment continues to be entertainment marketed to the masses. Art films and high-budget productions are not subject to the same conditions as Generic Police Procedural S21E19.
The shit you're complaining about this affecting is shit you don't care about, anyway.
I'm inclined to believe the other anon. The pattern of women and certain kinds of blacks ruining whatever they touch is blindingly obvious at this point.
>mass market entertainment continues to be entertainment marketed to the masses
It's clearly failing at that when we're seeing flop after flop after flop. You don't need 20 mouthbreathers to write Generic Police Procedural S21E19. Those writers rooms are just unskilled labor sniffing each other's farts at that point.
I'd argue that generic police procedurals are one of the few things that could work with 20 writers since you have to come up with a new whodunit every episode.
Comedy is another one, just for joke writers though.
Those types of shows are only on network television. These writers want to work on streaming where they have the freedom to make 8 hour movies without the constraints of writing around commercial breaks and the FCC. They just want to have their cake and eat it too.
>anxiety-ridden POC tech worker living in the post-covid world
surely this isn't real, did they make it just so white collar shit skins who are too afraid to look people in the eyes could go OMG THATS ME
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimi_(film) >Angela Childs is an employee of Amygdala in Seattle who works from home monitoring incoming data streams from Kimi devices and making corrections to the software. She suffers from anxiety and agoraphobia due to a previous assault, which has been exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic.
Make good movies, that’s all we ask. >Feminazis and leftard troons: impossible without shoving all races where it’s historically inaccurate and inappropriate. >t. Mongoloid.
The funny thing about this is that when they talk about diversity they just mean race and gender, when it comes to diversity of viewpoints they're absolutely opposed. Anyone who doesn't toe the lefty line will be booted as soon as their opinions are expressed.
And there you have the real reason that gender and racial diversity are pushed.. To show all races and genders espousing the same values, to try and normalise them among all people, and pretend it's the default value system so people mimic it.
Most of them don’t write marvel movies, most of them are even worse. Think of all the dumbass tv shows that exist, the countless seasons of shows like law and order or the idol or reality tv, you know, actual moron shit for morons. This is a collective nepotism hire temper tantrum. Daddy got them the job and now they want to be able to buy their own sixth Lexus damnit!
>They think 100k for 4 months of work is not good enough >They want 20+ people in every writers room
You don't seem to understand that writers (and people in film) don't work full-time. They work on project to project. Film people sometimes go weeks or months without work between projects. Any money they earn has to last and be stretched over a long period of time. In addition, they must give the union a cut of their paycheck. They also don't get taxes taken out of their checks. So some money must be set aside as well.
$100K - minus (all taxes and required expenses) = around $50K when it's all said and done.
Then you use $50K to raise a family and pay for household costs for the year.
That being said, modern writers sure do suck in terms of quality writing.
what are they (you) doing then? not subsiding your income with another job if you're crying poor
write a book or script yourself and then you actually own the rights and can negotiate terms to your satisfaction
>DUDE WHERES YOUR HUSTLE WHERES YOUR GRIND WHY ARENT YOU MAXXING(c) OUT YOUR DAY??
Frick you and every one of your sick freaks.
Anyway, not that it matters, but even school bus drivers have contracts that guarantee paid vacations. It pays peanuts, but they're not doing busboy gigs in summer, you fricking idiot.
10 months ago
Anonymous
hey now dwayne the rock johnson is on your side of the picket line chud
10 months ago
Anonymous
You can just exit the thread next time, you know?
They better hurry up and figure out a deal before ChatGPT takes their jobs. Everyone's a hack fraud and 95% of movies are derivative bullshit these days
10 months ago
Anonymous
lmao 8 months out of 12 isn't vacation time you out of touch moron
10 months ago
Anonymous
>he thinks summer vacation lasts 8 months >he thinks children spend 8 months out of school
Never seen someone so smug and yet so completely wrong.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>3 months off in the summer >weekends off >all national holidays off >2 weeks off in the spring >2 weeks off for christmas
Teachers have the easiest job in the world.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>unironically does the job for me and proves children do not spend 8 months out of school
Teachers deserve bigger pays because they had to educate a stupid moron like you. And you learned nothing anyway.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Teachers are just baby sitters. They don't teach anything.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>second easiest
fix'd
working for 4 months a year, sitting in a room sipping lattes and chiming in occasionally with the hot tip that a character should be pansexual is easier
10 months ago
Anonymous
If it's so easy and well paid why aren't you in charge of a TV show, anon? Let's hope your next post isn't a massive cope.
10 months ago
Anonymous
i don't live in los angeles... or america
10 months ago
Anonymous
>non-white non-American thinks a shitty job is actually well paid
The jokes writes themselves.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>californian didn't even consider the rest of the world that exists outside their bubble
it shows both in your work and your braindead posts
fruit pickers get seasonal work too
do they demand farmers pay them for the entire year or find another job for 9 months of the year?
Yeah, and school teachers bus and serve tables during summer break. Your point?
>Then you use $50K to raise a family and pay for household costs for the year.
That's higher than the median US salary for a few months of work as you put it.
You don't seem to understand that they chose to be writers, they chose to write for hollywood, and their pay is already inflated because of the union. The vast majority of them are trash at what they do, and they are free to do something else.
The cost of living in California is double the national average. Things literally cost almost double in California compared to someplace like Montana. To even work in Hollywood you need to be living near a Hollywood hub. That goes for all film workers. Not just writers. 50K in California is like 25K in other states.
It means the exact opposite of that, bootlicking-kun. Not that a good slave like you would demand a better pay from your israeli overlords. >your made up numbers. > That's funny, because the text I keep posting but you can't read due to low IQ ays out how information on a census and a study that both point to a higher than 45k yearly income for US citizens is correct. > Do you need some puppets to make it any clearer, homosexual?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Enabling oxygen thieves is just as bad as being a "bootlicker".
10 months ago
Anonymous
you can make demands all you want and seethe when execs conclude your output doesn't equal the revenue it creates
10 months ago
Anonymous
Which is why writers are striking. You're finally getting it!
10 months ago
Anonymous
i'm getting that writers don't understand basic economics or have any self-awareness
>Then you use $50K to raise a family and pay for household costs for the year.
That's higher than the median US salary for a few months of work as you put it.
Anon the median salary in the USA is like 40k. I think you're mistaking average household income, which is multiple incomes not just a single person's salary.
>Anon the median salary in the USA is like 40k
No, it really isn't. Lowest figure I can find is around 60k. You simply do not know what you're talking about.
10 months ago
Anonymous
????
10 months ago
Anonymous
>usafacts.org
Christ, where are you posting from?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>according to the bureau of labor and statisticss
10 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, stop digging your hole and just walk away.
10 months ago
Anonymous
It's not my fault you live in New Dehli and your Google results are fricked.
10 months ago
Anonymous
post your source then
10 months ago
Anonymous
>The typical U.S. family earns about $71,000 per year, according to the Census. Yet, the average American believes a family needs at least $85,000 in annual household income to get by, according to a recent Gallup poll.
>That finding tracks with a recent study from SmartAsset, a financial technology company, which found the average American worker needs $68,499 in after-tax income to live comfortably. (That works out to around $85,000 in total income, assuming a 20-percent tax hit.)
You could just admit you're wrong, you know?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Still waiting for your source
10 months ago
Anonymous
>That finding tracks with a recent study from SmartAsset, a financial technology company
I had no idea illiteracy was an issue for you. Let me know if you need more visual aids.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Still see no links just text.
Surely by the next post you will be able to provide an actual source
10 months ago
Anonymous
>clinically moronic zoomie can't google a source
I can see why you came up with such a wrong figure.
10 months ago
Anonymous
So you have no source for your statement
????
is correct then
10 months ago
Anonymous
>So you have no source for your statement >That finding tracks with a recent study from SmartAsset, a financial technology company
10 months ago
Anonymous
Anon I don't care about your made up numbers.
The other guy provided a source you didn't.
It's that simple
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Anon I don't care about your made up numbers.
That's funny, because the text I keep posting but you can't read due to low IQ ays out how information on a census and a study that both point to a higher than 45k yearly income for US citizens is correct.
Do you need some puppets to make it any clearer, homosexual?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>gallup poll
jesus christ anon you're better off saying it was revealed to you in a dream
10 months ago
Anonymous
>whoa dude are those actual sources? xD
Goddamn, that's all you can come up on your discord server? Weak.
10 months ago
Anonymous
it was you who posted the fake poll, not me
10 months ago
Anonymous
>it-it's a bad poll >N-NO WAIT IT'S FAKE!!!
I accept your concession.
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's US families, where there are usually two workers. Not per worker
You don't seem to understand that they chose to be writers, they chose to write for hollywood, and their pay is already inflated because of the union. The vast majority of them are trash at what they do, and they are free to do something else.
Chuds aren't licking any boots, they hate everybody in this situation; but it is enjoyable watching one segment of the hated group being starved and tortured by another segment of the hated group. Its not hypocritical to cheer on the executives in these circumstances, just so that the suffering of the writers and actors can be prolonged.
The don't give a frick about quality, those hacks just want the higher paycheck from being in the writers room, rather than just emailing their one and only script for the season from home. And the vast majority will still only write or co-write one episode.
>Support people who hate your guts and whose political leanings are diametrically opposite to yours, chuds. >Support people who shove trannies, homosexuals, groomers and butcher your favourite classic movies and cartons with modern identity politics, chuds.
I fully support the writers in the discussion, and honestly think they are asking for way too little. They should be asking for three or four times as much up front as they get today, and for bigger residuals. And they should not budge at all from those demands, and keep their strike going as long as it takes, with no compromises.
I respectfully disagree. I support the studios. With the current state of industry, they shiuld demand pay cuts. And they should not put any more offers on the table.
So sick of this, they get to work on Hollywood movies ffs. Many of us would kill for just the opportunity. Not all jobs are equal, not everyone deserves the same slice of the pie
writers being paid well means writers who aren't coastal nepo-babies can actually work in hollywood
your type of logic is exactly what leads to rich kids with no life experience with daddy paying their rent writing all the content you consume
The only people who work in Hollywood are coastal nepo babies. This just means more money for them. Someone up there pointed out all of this is irrelevant to us anway, as it's just a fight between slop merchants at the slop factory where they produce slop we don't watch anyway.
I only support the studios because people I dislike, Bob Chipman for example, probably oppose them.
That's all it is, huh? Couldn't be the gatekeeping from said nepo-babies to make sure their power base is secure. This isn't a problem you solve by throwing more money at it, that'll only make it even harder for people who aren't established to break into the industry as the cost of living grows exponentially higher. Best thing is to support independent films that don't suck, which is obviously easier said than done.
We all need to be cutting back. We are in a recession. I for one am dropping Netflix and Disney, and pirating what I need. We all have to make sacrifices.
No, they aren't. That's the point of a strike, you might even go homeless to protest, even lock the boss up, until the end of the strike. Some has found another work part-time and continue the strike.
Have you heard about hunger strike where people don't eat at all until the moment they have what they want?
If they get their way on this we will get even worst shit than we do now. Nothing creative ever comes out of a committee. Would you read a fictional book written by 20 people?
They don't want twenty they want like six.
I think for TV shows it's a little bit more but its like so many for x amount of episodes and then every two episodes after that you add another writer or something up to a maximum of 12? Which is a lot yeah.
What show now even 20 episodes anymore. That use to be the case for network TV pre steaming take over. More episodes a show had more could get selling it for syndication. Now, all follow HBO route of 10 episodes tops
israelite billionaires will just make whatever is perceived as popular at any given time so they can make even more money. The writers are all LA homosexuals who want to make this crap.
>See? I can do it too.
THE BILLIONAIRES HIRE THE PEOPLE THAT DO THIS SHIT
HOW DO YOU FRICKING moronS NOT UNDERSTAND THAT WITHOUT BILLIONAIRES THIS SHIT ISN'T GREENLIT
IF THEY COULD DO IT ALL THEMSELVES THEY WOULD BE DOING IT ALL THEMSELVES RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THE BILLIONAIRES
This. Both parties suck ass and both parties have abused the system for way too long. I wish both of them got what they deserved, but I know only the the talentless hacks will maybe, get some comeuppance. The israelite billionaires will keep on scamming people and companies for money, and morons will cheer them on as they do it, only for shit like this to happen again in the future
>Woke white female writers are the real problem,
THOSE
DON'T
JUST
HAPPEN
THEY
NEED
TO
BE
GREENLIT
BY
THE
FRICKING
BILLIONAIRES
how do you fricking morons not understand this? unless it's some indie film shit the garbage you hate
IS ALL GREENLIT BY THE BILLIONAIRES AND THEY LOOK FOR PEOPLE TO WRITE THIS SHIT
Don’t care. The majority of writers are left leaning white women anyways. I hope these c**ts starve to death with their pointless strikes. Let’s just replace them with AI already.
part of the WGA demands are an increase of this type of shit
I want both sides to lose so I want this to go on forever but I will take writers getting completely fricked over and demoralized to the point they are mindbroken as an alternative
>20 people in the writing room >Okay, John, Corey, Linda, Debra, Khumal, Suzuki, Liana, L'Washington J, Riviera, Sisko, Tom M, L'Washington Q, Ronday, Randy, Laura, Northton, Westchester and Dave all think he should say "Well that went well!" >And Tom L and Joss think he should say "Um, check please!" >We aren't leaving until we all agree on this
Hmm...what if...we make a Persona 5 Netflix show, but instead the main character is Black and we have it so the Phantom Thieves are diverse and they enter the hearts of corrupt white people to make them come to terms with their privilege and pay reparations after their inner white shadow is defeated?
We can include a variety of topics like a white character who has repressed jealousy of Black penis size, a white woman repressing her attraction to Black men due to her father's conditioning, and an episode where the other Indian and Chinese Phantom Thieves confront a white male using them as puppets as acceptable immigrants when they actually identify with PoC causes?
Disney was already replacing dead actors with CGI doubles back in 2016's Rogue One, and I'm sure most of the writers didn't object to it on ethical grounds. If actors can be replaced by CG, then why can't writers be replaced by AI? Maybe they should try writing less formulaic slop if AI can take their jobs so easily.
Been a massive decline in good writing. I’d argue is because nobody reads anymore. And no way you will be a good writer if you don’t read a lot. And I mean a lot. Like talk radio. Try filling hour, let alone half an hour with listenable material of you just talking. You’ll run out of shit within 10 minutes.
I hate actors and studios. But I especially writers and actors because take no risk. If a movie or show flops
they don’t lose money. On to next piece of shit. They need have skin the game. Why I say. No upfront money. Get a % of the profit, if there is any.
I think the studios suck, the writers suck and this whole nepotistic shithole should die. I don't give a shit. The longer they are on strike the more mone the industry loses. I'd say it's a win win for everyone but them.
I do not like modern writing in movies. I do like a lot of things though and would be happy to share a short list.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Most if not all of the writers you think are different from the modern ones were all WGA members and support this strike. Writers are not your issue, your issue is trying to base your entire personality on being a massive contrarian.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Here's what I think I understand, writers actually what freedom. The pens in their hands are being held by the vial corporations they work for and they are now throwing a temper tantrum Iverson money they don't deserve because they write by committee and can't publish an actual book.
10 months ago
Anonymous
If any of what you talked about was easy, well paid or even glamorous, you'd be writing for Hollywood and not seething.
They better hurry up and figure out a deal before ChatGPT takes their jobs. Everyone's a hack fraud and 95% of movies are derivative bullshit these days
People are willing to put up with inane bullshit to work in the entertainment industry. All the studio execs had to do was to gradually increase the standard of pay before things escalated and this whole strike wouldn’t have happened. Now they are gonna bleed or we are gonna find ourselves in some kind of new hellscape of AI scripts and similar slop.
I live a good enough life with 10k a year, what the hell they want? >They want 20+ people in every writers room
Isn't that bad? The more people you have writing something the worst it turns out to be.
>20+ people in every writers room
i feel like there would be 3 or 4 people doing the actual work while the rest just sit there and do nothing until it's time to go home
even leaving aside that fact that comedy needs a greater team of writers than drama, you didn't bother because maybe 6 or 8 writers writing 22-26 episodes is completely different to 20 writers writing 8-10
Basically any film or tv series based on a book. Let's use for example Stephen King, Michael Crichton, John Grisham, Tolkien, GRRM, JK Rowling.
So let's see: >Lord of the Rings trilogy >Harry Potter movies >Game of Thrones >House of the Dragon >The Shawshank Redemption >The Green Mile >The Shining >it >The Firm >The Client >The Pelican Brief >A Time to Kill >Jurassic Park >The Andromeda Strain >Westworld >The 13th Warrior
>/misc/ post
This is Cinemaphile, dummy.
And no, I'm sorry I don't rush to suck some hollywood israelite's wiener, just because he le sticking it to le man. It's not like worshiping these homosexuals on Cinemaphile is gonna make a difference anyway, you mental moron
>I don't rush to suck some hollywood israelite's wiener >*votes for trump*
10 months ago
Anonymous
>actually voting
Nice gotcha, you dumb Black person
10 months ago
Anonymous
>le ebin centrist
Didn't know you were sucking wieners at this very moment. Don't let me interrupt you.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>you don't partake in israeli bread and circuses? >disgusting fricking centrist!
Legitimately bro - buy a nice, hardy rope. Tie it to something really solid. And wring that shit. Your brain doesn't deserve the oxygen it's consuming.
48k a year is more than I've ever made in my life also I have never had a job where I get "residuals". imagine if i got in perptuity 1 cent every time someone walked over the patch of floor i swept once at walmart.
my salary at the last job i had was $12.50 an hour. that was after over 10 years working there, started at $8 an hour. no residuals. no sympy here for hollywood writers and even less for actors, and even less for studio execs. hollywood hasn't put out anything worth watching since 2012 anyway.
>$12.50
Where? Even mcdonalds pays more than that now.
10 months ago
Anonymous
office job. work wasn't bad but having to deal with customers on the phone was emasculating and pay and lack of benefits was shit. covid turned out to be a blessing cause unemployment paid more that year than working did.
If a writer works on a book to publish in their own time, then they have both a chance of selling a lot and making bank or the book failing and they wasted their time and effort time for minimal reward. It's essentially a bet on themselves.
These writers are cowards that won't bet on themselves because deep down they know they are talentless hacks, and therefore want a gig as a writer for a studio that guarantees pay for their labor, and still stupidly believe they are entitled to a return on the profits (if there are any), even though they outsourced all the the risk to the studio.
Based.
It gives me a chuckle how they must seethe when the drunken scotsman makes a youtube video shitting on slop they put to screens and also had the balls they didn't to publish his own book series.
Studio Executives be like
Why are they like this? Do they really think they're worth all of this because they write marvel movies?
They have convinced themselves that someone from "every background" needs to be involved in the writing because you aren't allowed to write characters if you are white without someone correcting your work. That's why everything is soulless slop now. So a bunch of talentless hacks who all have the same worldview think they are including "diverse perspectives" because they all clap in agreement when they share their inoffensive ideas and dull down any possible creative edge. This all became clear to me when I watched the Zoe Kravitz movie about an anxiety-ridden POC tech worker living in the post-covid world. They literally can't make anything up.
>That's why everything is soulless slop now.
No, it isn't. That's why mass market entertainment continues to be entertainment marketed to the masses. Art films and high-budget productions are not subject to the same conditions as Generic Police Procedural S21E19.
The shit you're complaining about this affecting is shit you don't care about, anyway.
>I win the argument because I tell you what you care about
moran
I'm inclined to believe the other anon. The pattern of women and certain kinds of blacks ruining whatever they touch is blindingly obvious at this point.
>mass market entertainment continues to be entertainment marketed to the masses
It's clearly failing at that when we're seeing flop after flop after flop. You don't need 20 mouthbreathers to write Generic Police Procedural S21E19. Those writers rooms are just unskilled labor sniffing each other's farts at that point.
I'd argue that generic police procedurals are one of the few things that could work with 20 writers since you have to come up with a new whodunit every episode.
Comedy is another one, just for joke writers though.
Those types of shows are only on network television. These writers want to work on streaming where they have the freedom to make 8 hour movies without the constraints of writing around commercial breaks and the FCC. They just want to have their cake and eat it too.
>anxiety-ridden POC tech worker living in the post-covid world
surely this isn't real, did they make it just so white collar shit skins who are too afraid to look people in the eyes could go OMG THATS ME
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimi_(film)
>Angela Childs is an employee of Amygdala in Seattle who works from home monitoring incoming data streams from Kimi devices and making corrections to the software. She suffers from anxiety and agoraphobia due to a previous assault, which has been exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic.
Good lookin out, anon
Make good movies, that’s all we ask.
>Feminazis and leftard troons: impossible without shoving all races where it’s historically inaccurate and inappropriate.
>t. Mongoloid.
The funny thing about this is that when they talk about diversity they just mean race and gender, when it comes to diversity of viewpoints they're absolutely opposed. Anyone who doesn't toe the lefty line will be booted as soon as their opinions are expressed.
Bingo. Same world view even though they 'look' different. Also all from same (rich) class backgrounds.
And there you have the real reason that gender and racial diversity are pushed.. To show all races and genders espousing the same values, to try and normalise them among all people, and pretend it's the default value system so people mimic it.
Most of them don’t write marvel movies, most of them are even worse. Think of all the dumbass tv shows that exist, the countless seasons of shows like law and order or the idol or reality tv, you know, actual moron shit for morons. This is a collective nepotism hire temper tantrum. Daddy got them the job and now they want to be able to buy their own sixth Lexus damnit!
Americans worship Hollywood.
The world worships Hollywood, and it’s terrible.
Is that why their movies keep flopping, chinkstein?
Avatar made like 2 billion dollars.
>Why do people want more money?
They actually want to be able to live like the 1% does on the most expensive area in the entire country. All for 3 months of work every year.
Rent a small flat next time Black person.
>People want to be wealthy and work less and live in affluent areas
Can you blame them?
yes when they make a union to game the system rustle money out of companies by fricking everyone below them or in a parallel industry
>when they make a union to game the system
>union to game the system
Even if these people are given the world, they still won't be happy.
Are you speaking from experience, poor-kun?
I make six figures.
You don't seem to understand that writers (and people in film) don't work full-time. They work on project to project. Film people sometimes go weeks or months without work between projects. Any money they earn has to last and be stretched over a long period of time. In addition, they must give the union a cut of their paycheck. They also don't get taxes taken out of their checks. So some money must be set aside as well.
$100K - minus (all taxes and required expenses) = around $50K when it's all said and done.
Then you use $50K to raise a family and pay for household costs for the year.
That being said, modern writers sure do suck in terms of quality writing.
>I spend a significant amount of time doing nothing therefore I deserve compensation for that
>my boss can frick me in the ass if he thinks im doing nothing anyway
t. cuck
what are they (you) doing then? not subsiding your income with another job if you're crying poor
write a book or script yourself and then you actually own the rights and can negotiate terms to your satisfaction
>DUDE WHERES YOUR HUSTLE WHERES YOUR GRIND WHY ARENT YOU MAXXING(c) OUT YOUR DAY??
Frick you and every one of your sick freaks.
Anyway, not that it matters, but even school bus drivers have contracts that guarantee paid vacations. It pays peanuts, but they're not doing busboy gigs in summer, you fricking idiot.
hey now dwayne the rock johnson is on your side of the picket line chud
You can just exit the thread next time, you know?
lmao 8 months out of 12 isn't vacation time you out of touch moron
>he thinks summer vacation lasts 8 months
>he thinks children spend 8 months out of school
Never seen someone so smug and yet so completely wrong.
>3 months off in the summer
>weekends off
>all national holidays off
>2 weeks off in the spring
>2 weeks off for christmas
Teachers have the easiest job in the world.
>unironically does the job for me and proves children do not spend 8 months out of school
Teachers deserve bigger pays because they had to educate a stupid moron like you. And you learned nothing anyway.
Teachers are just baby sitters. They don't teach anything.
I accept your concession.
>second easiest
fix'd
working for 4 months a year, sitting in a room sipping lattes and chiming in occasionally with the hot tip that a character should be pansexual is easier
If it's so easy and well paid why aren't you in charge of a TV show, anon? Let's hope your next post isn't a massive cope.
i don't live in los angeles... or america
>non-white non-American thinks a shitty job is actually well paid
The jokes writes themselves.
>californian didn't even consider the rest of the world that exists outside their bubble
it shows both in your work and your braindead posts
The cost of living in California is double the national average. Things literally cost almost double in California compared to someplace like Montana. To even work in Hollywood you need to be living near a Hollywood hub. That goes for all film workers. Not just writers. 50K in California is like 25K in other states.
all the more reason to not expect 4 months of work to cover your costs for a full year
It means the exact opposite of that, bootlicking-kun. Not that a good slave like you would demand a better pay from your israeli overlords.
>your made up numbers.
> That's funny, because the text I keep posting but you can't read due to low IQ ays out how information on a census and a study that both point to a higher than 45k yearly income for US citizens is correct.
> Do you need some puppets to make it any clearer, homosexual?
Enabling oxygen thieves is just as bad as being a "bootlicker".
you can make demands all you want and seethe when execs conclude your output doesn't equal the revenue it creates
Which is why writers are striking. You're finally getting it!
i'm getting that writers don't understand basic economics or have any self-awareness
then leave or get a job for more than 4 months per year
and if what you're saying is true how do all of these illegal hispanics and drug addict bums manage to live there?
You need to live in CA to write? That can't be done from another location?
>Implying the israelites will let you wfh
fruit pickers get seasonal work too
do they demand farmers pay them for the entire year or find another job for 9 months of the year?
Yeah, and school teachers bus and serve tables during summer break. Your point?
No they don't. What the frick are you talking about?
>Then you use $50K to raise a family and pay for household costs for the year.
That's higher than the median US salary for a few months of work as you put it.
The median US salary in 2023 is 89k, you absolute fricking moron.
Anon the median salary in the USA is like 40k. I think you're mistaking average household income, which is multiple incomes not just a single person's salary.
>Anon the median salary in the USA is like 40k
No, it really isn't. Lowest figure I can find is around 60k. You simply do not know what you're talking about.
????
>usafacts.org
Christ, where are you posting from?
>according to the bureau of labor and statisticss
Anon, stop digging your hole and just walk away.
It's not my fault you live in New Dehli and your Google results are fricked.
post your source then
>The typical U.S. family earns about $71,000 per year, according to the Census. Yet, the average American believes a family needs at least $85,000 in annual household income to get by, according to a recent Gallup poll.
>That finding tracks with a recent study from SmartAsset, a financial technology company, which found the average American worker needs $68,499 in after-tax income to live comfortably. (That works out to around $85,000 in total income, assuming a 20-percent tax hit.)
You could just admit you're wrong, you know?
Still waiting for your source
>That finding tracks with a recent study from SmartAsset, a financial technology company
I had no idea illiteracy was an issue for you. Let me know if you need more visual aids.
Still see no links just text.
Surely by the next post you will be able to provide an actual source
>clinically moronic zoomie can't google a source
I can see why you came up with such a wrong figure.
So you have no source for your statement
is correct then
>So you have no source for your statement
>That finding tracks with a recent study from SmartAsset, a financial technology company
Anon I don't care about your made up numbers.
The other guy provided a source you didn't.
It's that simple
>Anon I don't care about your made up numbers.
That's funny, because the text I keep posting but you can't read due to low IQ ays out how information on a census and a study that both point to a higher than 45k yearly income for US citizens is correct.
Do you need some puppets to make it any clearer, homosexual?
>gallup poll
jesus christ anon you're better off saying it was revealed to you in a dream
>whoa dude are those actual sources? xD
Goddamn, that's all you can come up on your discord server? Weak.
it was you who posted the fake poll, not me
>it-it's a bad poll
>N-NO WAIT IT'S FAKE!!!
I accept your concession.
That's US families, where there are usually two workers. Not per worker
You don't seem to understand that they chose to be writers, they chose to write for hollywood, and their pay is already inflated because of the union. The vast majority of them are trash at what they do, and they are free to do something else.
>union gets you a fair pay
>"um thats inflated actually"
Is it really, Rabbi?
You know some people have real jobs making 100k to dick around in excel for a year
it's honest living
they should be grateful
these threads sure are organic.
More organic than your neo vegana axe wound, troony
Never underestimate the willingness of chuds to be corporate bootlickers and do it for free
lmao the frickin seethe at things that dont even exist
Chuds aren't licking any boots, they hate everybody in this situation; but it is enjoyable watching one segment of the hated group being starved and tortured by another segment of the hated group. Its not hypocritical to cheer on the executives in these circumstances, just so that the suffering of the writers and actors can be prolonged.
Bros which site do I donate to so I can send Adam Conover a pizza???
>20+ people in every writers room
Impossible to create quality content under those circumstances. Not like it would make a difference with the state of writers today thoughever.
The don't give a frick about quality, those hacks just want the higher paycheck from being in the writers room, rather than just emailing their one and only script for the season from home. And the vast majority will still only write or co-write one episode.
>Support people who hate your guts and whose political leanings are diametrically opposite to yours, chuds.
>Support people who shove trannies, homosexuals, groomers and butcher your favourite classic movies and cartons with modern identity politics, chuds.
I will not miss Hollywood
maybe they made a huge demand on salary because they knew they would never get any residuals. so they said fine no residuals, pay us upfront
I fully support the writers in the discussion, and honestly think they are asking for way too little. They should be asking for three or four times as much up front as they get today, and for bigger residuals. And they should not budge at all from those demands, and keep their strike going as long as it takes, with no compromises.
this. in fact, they should all kill themselves if they don't get what they want. That'd show us.
I respectfully disagree. I support the studios. With the current state of industry, they shiuld demand pay cuts. And they should not put any more offers on the table.
In fact to show how serious they are they should all go on a hunger strike until the studios succumb to their every demand.
That's what they're currently doing?
So sick of this, they get to work on Hollywood movies ffs. Many of us would kill for just the opportunity. Not all jobs are equal, not everyone deserves the same slice of the pie
writers being paid well means writers who aren't coastal nepo-babies can actually work in hollywood
your type of logic is exactly what leads to rich kids with no life experience with daddy paying their rent writing all the content you consume
nepobabies is an antisemitic term, be careful with that shit
deflect if you want but the point is true
being against the writers ultimately means more rich nepobabies being writers
What's my option if I hate them both equally and want the whole system to choke to death?
>it's the lack of pay that keeps good writers out
>not the leftist/israeli nepotism
moron
the fact you don't see how those two are directly related makes you moronic
writers get hired based on their identity and political views
how naive are you to think otherwise?
The only people who work in Hollywood are coastal nepo babies. This just means more money for them. Someone up there pointed out all of this is irrelevant to us anway, as it's just a fight between slop merchants at the slop factory where they produce slop we don't watch anyway.
I only support the studios because people I dislike, Bob Chipman for example, probably oppose them.
That's all it is, huh? Couldn't be the gatekeeping from said nepo-babies to make sure their power base is secure. This isn't a problem you solve by throwing more money at it, that'll only make it even harder for people who aren't established to break into the industry as the cost of living grows exponentially higher. Best thing is to support independent films that don't suck, which is obviously easier said than done.
Why don't these studios just hire writers from another State that isn't part of this union or even get foreign writers to work for them?
No matter what happens, Cinemaphile will line up for the latest slop
Why are you here
>Look! The television and film board is watching television!
we watch anime on Cinemaphile, sir
I havent watched a movie or a tv show for over 2 years
We all need to be cutting back. We are in a recession. I for one am dropping Netflix and Disney, and pirating what I need. We all have to make sacrifices.
>We are in a recession.
no we aren't
Yes we are, brainlet. And it's about to turn into a depression.
source? im gonna need a source buddy. source me now or else you LOSE and are made to look like a fool in front of all your anonymous friends
>itll turn into a depression
Biden debunked this, stop getting your news from breitbart
Good. I hope this never gets solved and leaves a giant hole in hollywood.
>100k for 4 months of work
would take that type of job in a heartbeat, all hollywood homosexuals striking are ungrateful and spoiled
That's 25k per month. That's nothing in California/Hollywood.
Californians deserve to suffer.
I make 100k a month in LA and I'm literally drowning because of my Porsche and prostitute addictions.
>writers are living paycheck to paycheck
>can afford to stop working in fricking LA for 4 months
what gives
No, they aren't. That's the point of a strike, you might even go homeless to protest, even lock the boss up, until the end of the strike. Some has found another work part-time and continue the strike.
Have you heard about hunger strike where people don't eat at all until the moment they have what they want?
None of those people look like they're capable of doing a hunger strike.
Im gonna go on a hunger strike until i get what i want (being skinny)
>writers room
>They want 20+ people in every writers room
If they get their way on this we will get even worst shit than we do now. Nothing creative ever comes out of a committee. Would you read a fictional book written by 20 people?
Is there any way we can help to keep the strike going? Im hoping they don't come back for at least another few years.
They don't want twenty they want like six.
I think for TV shows it's a little bit more but its like so many for x amount of episodes and then every two episodes after that you add another writer or something up to a maximum of 12? Which is a lot yeah.
What show now even 20 episodes anymore. That use to be the case for network TV pre steaming take over. More episodes a show had more could get selling it for syndication. Now, all follow HBO route of 10 episodes tops
wageslaves supporting the depreciation of their rights.
lol
>I side with the israelite billionaires that greenlight the woke garbage I hate
israelite billionaires will just make whatever is perceived as popular at any given time so they can make even more money. The writers are all LA homosexuals who want to make this crap.
>I side with israelites and diversity hires that write the woke garbage I hate
See? I can do it too.
Truth is, I want both parties to bleed out and die. i don't give a frick who "wins", as long as the journey there is arduous and painful
>See? I can do it too.
THE BILLIONAIRES HIRE THE PEOPLE THAT DO THIS SHIT
HOW DO YOU FRICKING moronS NOT UNDERSTAND THAT WITHOUT BILLIONAIRES THIS SHIT ISN'T GREENLIT
IF THEY COULD DO IT ALL THEMSELVES THEY WOULD BE DOING IT ALL THEMSELVES RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THE BILLIONAIRES
get a hobby, moron.
vid related
This. Both parties suck ass and both parties have abused the system for way too long. I wish both of them got what they deserved, but I know only the the talentless hacks will maybe, get some comeuppance. The israelite billionaires will keep on scamming people and companies for money, and morons will cheer them on as they do it, only for shit like this to happen again in the future
Woke white female writers are the real problem, not israeli men. Take the femoid pill.
>Woke white female writers are the real problem,
THOSE
DON'T
JUST
HAPPEN
THEY
NEED
TO
BE
GREENLIT
BY
THE
FRICKING
BILLIONAIRES
how do you fricking morons not understand this? unless it's some indie film shit the garbage you hate
IS ALL GREENLIT BY THE BILLIONAIRES AND THEY LOOK FOR PEOPLE TO WRITE THIS SHIT
Don’t care. The majority of writers are left leaning white women anyways. I hope these c**ts starve to death with their pointless strikes. Let’s just replace them with AI already.
Writers choose to execute it. They can always say no. Don't pretend like these blue haired morons have any qualms about writing wokeslop.
Footsoldiers are shot as well as their commanders.
Frick them all.
In terms of people to take care of first, it's collaborators. They're collaborators.
part of the WGA demands are an increase of this type of shit
I want both sides to lose so I want this to go on forever but I will take writers getting completely fricked over and demoralized to the point they are mindbroken as an alternative
>20 people in the writing room
>Okay, John, Corey, Linda, Debra, Khumal, Suzuki, Liana, L'Washington J, Riviera, Sisko, Tom M, L'Washington Q, Ronday, Randy, Laura, Northton, Westchester and Dave all think he should say "Well that went well!"
>And Tom L and Joss think he should say "Um, check please!"
>We aren't leaving until we all agree on this
Hmm...what if...we make a Persona 5 Netflix show, but instead the main character is Black and we have it so the Phantom Thieves are diverse and they enter the hearts of corrupt white people to make them come to terms with their privilege and pay reparations after their inner white shadow is defeated?
We can include a variety of topics like a white character who has repressed jealousy of Black penis size, a white woman repressing her attraction to Black men due to her father's conditioning, and an episode where the other Indian and Chinese Phantom Thieves confront a white male using them as puppets as acceptable immigrants when they actually identify with PoC causes?
Good job it will last one season and end in a cliffhanger no one cares about
I want ALL OF HOLLYWOOD to be replaced by AI.
Disney was already replacing dead actors with CGI doubles back in 2016's Rogue One, and I'm sure most of the writers didn't object to it on ethical grounds. If actors can be replaced by CG, then why can't writers be replaced by AI? Maybe they should try writing less formulaic slop if AI can take their jobs so easily.
Been a massive decline in good writing. I’d argue is because nobody reads anymore. And no way you will be a good writer if you don’t read a lot. And I mean a lot. Like talk radio. Try filling hour, let alone half an hour with listenable material of you just talking. You’ll run out of shit within 10 minutes.
I hate actors and studios. But I especially writers and actors because take no risk. If a movie or show flops
they don’t lose money. On to next piece of shit. They need have skin the game. Why I say. No upfront money. Get a % of the profit, if there is any.
A $300k salary in LA is basically slavery. Glad they didnt accept
I think the studios suck, the writers suck and this whole nepotistic shithole should die. I don't give a shit. The longer they are on strike the more mone the industry loses. I'd say it's a win win for everyone but them.
I hope they win.
I want them as an anchor that sinks Hollywood.
who wrote big stan, kung pow and vampires suck? hire them to write everything they were great movies
> Wants 20k per week
> 3 months (12 weeks of writing)
> ex. @ 10 writers
= 2.4M for writing goylsop
Let them starve. I look forward for AI.
>the "people" who wrote this think they deserve a raise
What they want it a lifetime cut of any future profit on their "work".
MANSIONS 4 WRITERS
If the writers want to be taken seriously they need to start committing acts of terror on the studios.
Gotta start burning shit.
>100k for 4 months of work
That is stupidly low considering the job is done after those 4 months and nothing guarantees you'll get another gig.
Well if it was a difficult profession then, yeah, maybe. If these "writers" could publish a book they would...but they cant.
I wonder how much of your personality was shaped by these people you hate so much.
Interesting question. I'm old, and grew up with a lot of good and well written movies. I bowed out in the early 2000s.
I doubt this new guard of entitled writers had much influence on me at all.
Old people recognize the value of work. You're a homosexual zoomie who can't even admit he likes things.
I do not like modern writing in movies. I do like a lot of things though and would be happy to share a short list.
Most if not all of the writers you think are different from the modern ones were all WGA members and support this strike. Writers are not your issue, your issue is trying to base your entire personality on being a massive contrarian.
Here's what I think I understand, writers actually what freedom. The pens in their hands are being held by the vial corporations they work for and they are now throwing a temper tantrum Iverson money they don't deserve because they write by committee and can't publish an actual book.
If any of what you talked about was easy, well paid or even glamorous, you'd be writing for Hollywood and not seething.
Why lie? You make people who think they're morons look bad
I love how people take every greentect comment as true. It's honestly too easy.
How many of these Journalism college drop-outs do you think are already writing scripts about their own strike?
beatings
there is nothing greater than israeli infighting
>THESE israeli CORPORATIONS ARE NOT israeli ENOUGH
Sad, isn't it?
They better hurry up and figure out a deal before ChatGPT takes their jobs. Everyone's a hack fraud and 95% of movies are derivative bullshit these days
>AMPTP?? More like AMPTPOO
These are the Hollywood writers that want more money.
People are willing to put up with inane bullshit to work in the entertainment industry. All the studio execs had to do was to gradually increase the standard of pay before things escalated and this whole strike wouldn’t have happened. Now they are gonna bleed or we are gonna find ourselves in some kind of new hellscape of AI scripts and similar slop.
I live a good enough life with 10k a year, what the hell they want?
>They want 20+ people in every writers room
Isn't that bad? The more people you have writing something the worst it turns out to be.
>20+ people in every writers room
i feel like there would be 3 or 4 people doing the actual work while the rest just sit there and do nothing until it's time to go home
I feel like none of you know how many people wrote or had a hand helping write the best Simpsons episodes.
is the number 20 or are you just being a homosexual
Tell me what your "right" number of writers. I wanna laugh at you.
there is no "right" number, and trying to pretend that 20 is will always be wrong
>there is no "right" number
>20 is too many though
Why are you fricking dumb, man?
>every team needs the same number of people
>non-argument
Boring.
how many writers were there and how many episodes per season? let's do some basic division
>establish an argument for me
"No."
even leaving aside that fact that comedy needs a greater team of writers than drama, you didn't bother because maybe 6 or 8 writers writing 22-26 episodes is completely different to 20 writers writing 8-10
>he's already conceding
Close the fricking tab already, this is sad.
are you just trolling or actually this obnoxious and stupid? i seriously hope you aren't a current writer because the future is dire if so
Don't cry.
Far more great filums and TV shows have been written by one or two people than massive committees.
>Far more great filums and TV shows have been written by one or two people
Show me one (1). I'll wait.
Fawlty Towers
Father Ted
true detective season 1
game of thrones
Do you think books would be better if each chapter had a different author?
>Straczynski wrote 92 of the 110 episodes of Babylon 5, including all 44 episodes in the third and fourth seasons
He also did a great job on Real Ghostbusters.
>Babylon 5
>44 episodes in the third and fourth seasons
Basically any film or tv series based on a book. Let's use for example Stephen King, Michael Crichton, John Grisham, Tolkien, GRRM, JK Rowling.
So let's see:
>Lord of the Rings trilogy
>Harry Potter movies
>Game of Thrones
>House of the Dragon
>The Shawshank Redemption
>The Green Mile
>The Shining
>it
>The Firm
>The Client
>The Pelican Brief
>A Time to Kill
>Jurassic Park
>The Andromeda Strain
>Westworld
>The 13th Warrior
has there ever been a war where you wanted everyone on both sides dead more?
two currently
>I hate israeli billionaires equally as guys who bartend and write screen plays for 48k a year
Whoa dewd ur winnin muh infowar
>israeli billionaire
vs
>israeli writer
Yeah, it's pretty hard to pick a side on that one.
I hope this is an ironic post or this might be the stupidest /misc/ post in history.
>/misc/ post
This is Cinemaphile, dummy.
And no, I'm sorry I don't rush to suck some hollywood israelite's wiener, just because he le sticking it to le man. It's not like worshiping these homosexuals on Cinemaphile is gonna make a difference anyway, you mental moron
>I don't rush to suck some hollywood israelite's wiener
>*votes for trump*
>actually voting
Nice gotcha, you dumb Black person
>le ebin centrist
Didn't know you were sucking wieners at this very moment. Don't let me interrupt you.
>you don't partake in israeli bread and circuses?
>disgusting fricking centrist!
Legitimately bro - buy a nice, hardy rope. Tie it to something really solid. And wring that shit. Your brain doesn't deserve the oxygen it's consuming.
>vote for le lesser evil
48k a year is more than I've ever made in my life also I have never had a job where I get "residuals". imagine if i got in perptuity 1 cent every time someone walked over the patch of floor i swept once at walmart.
Anon that's $23 an hour. At this rate of inflation you'll be there by next year thanks to Biden.
my salary at the last job i had was $12.50 an hour. that was after over 10 years working there, started at $8 an hour. no residuals. no sympy here for hollywood writers and even less for actors, and even less for studio execs. hollywood hasn't put out anything worth watching since 2012 anyway.
>$12.50
Where? Even mcdonalds pays more than that now.
office job. work wasn't bad but having to deal with customers on the phone was emasculating and pay and lack of benefits was shit. covid turned out to be a blessing cause unemployment paid more that year than working did.
American civil war
guys we can create AI generated movies and shows of our own now. why wait for writers to come up with their next wokeshit turd?
I hate modern writers ad media but the AI likeness thing is pretty fricked up.
AMPT-POO
So this is the power of modern writing.
Residuals or participation in profits only makes sense if you're one of the people who put money in the project or if you were working for free
If a writer works on a book to publish in their own time, then they have both a chance of selling a lot and making bank or the book failing and they wasted their time and effort time for minimal reward. It's essentially a bet on themselves.
These writers are cowards that won't bet on themselves because deep down they know they are talentless hacks, and therefore want a gig as a writer for a studio that guarantees pay for their labor, and still stupidly believe they are entitled to a return on the profits (if there are any), even though they outsourced all the the risk to the studio.
This. I'm a feature writer who only writes on spec. For-hire TV hacks are the lowest scum of the profession.
Based.
It gives me a chuckle how they must seethe when the drunken scotsman makes a youtube video shitting on slop they put to screens and also had the balls they didn't to publish his own book series.
I fix jet aircraft for the fricking government 66,000 a year. Frick these homosexuals useless ass job b***hes.
Why should working in the film business pay more than "regular" jobs? Serious question.
Good.