>she will never be what she is not
that's literally pro-trans message, you fricking moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you're not ACTUALLY a man you're ACTUALLY a woman because you feel like it, that's why you need to cut off your genitals and have mutilating, debilitating surgeries leaving you with physical disabilities for live so you can be who you ACTUALLY are
lmfao at troons
what is there to spin? Someone forcing you to be the gender you're not. Literally everyone except for hardcore chuds understood this episode correctly. Most of the regular chuds did and call it woke all over the internet.
>Born a female >Get surgery to be male and get raised as male >Still considers herself female
This is literally just David Reimer except gender swaped how can you say it's not based?
When I first watched this episode I thought it was gonna be troony shit, except they went the route of biological truth instead, born a girl and forcibly transitioned into a male but underneath still feels like a female
That whole sequence was weird as frick to me because they were treating it as if it was some sort of terrible, cruel and unusual punishment was going to happen. I was just sitting there waiting for the holo-kid to sprout claws and shred the parents but it seems like facing the consequences of your own actions is already akin to murdertorture.
Baby of a homosexual and troony is forced to transition. The kid gets older and wants to join the 41% so detransitions against the wishes of the troony parent who gets BTFO.
Seems pretty based to me.
I didnt except something that based about this mentally ill troonycult from fricking Seth Mc Farlane and i still remember the Troon outrages about it, it was godly
>this a pro-trans episode and trannies are praising it online.
They have to conveniently ignore the fact that the kid was forced to transition by its parents and is now detransitioning to see it as pro-trans
>Sorry kid you're too young to drink, drive, vote and have sex. What's that you want to be pumped full of hormones, sterilised and have you body mutilated? Well right this way.
>so she chooses to live as a gender she feels she is instead of the one assigned by someone else?
To use your mentally ill terminology which states that people are "assigned" at birth.
The kid was "assigned" female at birth.
The parent forced it to under go surgery to "assigned" it male.
If the kid is living as what they were "assigned" which was is it as they were "assigned" twice by someone else?
so she chooses to live as a gender she feels she is instead of the one assigned by someone else? Intredasting.
They've been doing this ever since they got David Reimer to kill himself: co-opting his tragedy that resulted from one of their cult-leader's horrible experiments. In their minds, the basic problem with the 'John and Jane' trial was John Money not obtaining consent. It never occurs to them to explore all the ways in which consent can be unethically obtained and still be consent, because that would cover a lot of trans-activists attempts to normalise what they do now.
>literally a female trapped in a male body.
No, the concept of "male" and "female" for that alien race makes no sense whatsoever. Either Seth McFarlene is simply too dumb to write an ethnical dilemma that makes any sense, or it is intentionally nonsensical in the extreme just to be funny.
..Yes., Literally a female, mutilating surgeries will never change that. Correct. Just like how trannies will never become women if they are biological males.
In what way
That is literally what happened
Topa was born female, and was surgically altered to appear like a male
She will never be a male because she is a female, nomatter what surgeries alter her
Just like trannies will never be women by cutting their wieners off or men by cutting their breasts off
In what way is this 'dishonest'? It is objective reality and fact, nothing more or less. Literally just stating facts.
except it's magic alien space surgery, not regular boring imperfect Earth surgery. She is physically indistinguishable from a natural-born male. According to your own logic, that makes her fully and truly male. The only way you get out of this conundrum is if you start admitting gender and sex are separate things. I'll wait.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>She is physically indistinguishable from a natural-born male.
Kelly literally says, "Underneath that manufactured facade Topa is still female." It doesn't matter how perfectly they made Topa appear male, it didn't change her genes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
even interview with macfarlane didn't convince you that you're wrong and moronic?
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, I didn't read it. Just post a quote if you care so much.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're so afraid you might be wrong, you're gonna pretend this interview doesn't exist LMAO
2 years ago
Anonymous
My interpretation of the episode doesn't require the approval of the show runner.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It didn't change her genes
you seem to be much more informed about the minutiae of magic alien space surgeries than I am. Please provide the source for this claim.
2 years ago
Anonymous
We are never given any reason to believe it does, and her coming to intuitively understand something is wrong with her body is more in support of it not. It's no different from David Reimer, who was transitioned as a newborn and raised as a girl but then came to know he was actually a boy and wanting to de-transition because biology won out in the end.
2 years ago
Anonymous
trannies irl think medical procedures magically make them the opposite sex.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>except it's magic alien space surgery, not regular boring imperfect Earth surgery. She is physically indistinguishable from a natural-born male. According to your own logic, that makes her fully and truly male
Except even the magic alien space surgery isn't perfect because Klyden was actually born female and didn't know until it was revealed in a routine medical evaluation.
>The only way you get out of this conundrum is if you start admitting gender and sex are separate things. I'll wait.
When over 99% of males identify as men and females identify as women you have to be functionally moronic of mentally ill to think that sex and gender have nothing to do with each other just because a tiny minority of less than 1% are trans.
>male body
Anon troonys don't change bodies after operations they just get mutilated, she was always a female in a female body that got surgery to appear male
If this is the girl who was forced into sex reassignment surgery at birth then you got to be a moron to think that this is pro-troony propaganda. She is female because she was born female and no surgery or social conditioning can change that.
My interpretation of the episode doesn't require the approval of the show runner.
>My interpretation of the episode doesn't require the approval of the show runner.
if you want to be correct in your interpretation, yes of course it requires that. The frick are you smoking?
2 years ago
Anonymous
The writer's intention doesn't matter if what they wrote supports a different interpretation that can be defended directly by citing the writing itself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>if what they wrote supports a different interpretation
but it doesn't support that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It does, and you know it does because your only defense against my points is >b-b-but Scott said he meant...!!!
2 years ago
Anonymous
it literally doesn't support what you say the writers intentions were, if you weren't just pulling that out of your ass from the beginning which you probably were.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>parents forced child at birth to become troony >troony wants to commit suicide >troony detransitions
it doesn't matter what seth says because that literally what happened, face it you are wrong and got BTFO and will never be a woman no matter how many time you move the goal posts and conjure up some other metal illness gymnastics
2 years ago
Anonymous
>because that literally what happened
not even that is true. You could say she was troony if she had willingly chose to become male. But she didn't. She was all the time female in a male body. And later she decided to transition to female.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes it exactly what happened, you are just bullshitting and there is no real reason to reply to you anymore if you are just going to play moronic over and over.
2 years ago
Anonymous
how am i playing moronic if my interpretation is the same as seth's and the same as majority of the people who watched that episode?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>how am i playing moronic if i side with all these morons?
2 years ago
Anonymous
first Boys, now Orville. It must be a painful disonance to realize that shows you thought were based are actually le woke lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wait so are either shows any good?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It only likes Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks and being an obnoxious lunatic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no you are just lying now, she was born female and then they transitioned her into a male after the moclan court ordered her to be transition. if you think that didn't happen then you are a moronic liar ignoring what happened in a show that you come in here to shit on every week when you are causing cancer in /trek/ general
literally kys
You morons really are easily triggered, the story is literally about a kid who was forced by his parents to become a troony undoing the surgery and returning to her natural gender.
thats more like it
there were at least 5 gay space Black episodes prior to this one and you sat through all of them?
OP hasn't watched the show, he has just saved the image to bait and will now spend the entire thread arguing about trannies
>spend the entire thread arguing about trannies
i dont have the enrgy for that
Bortus Status: Broken
I thought he was born female
The episode is anti-trans
no, it isn't.
yes, it is and no amount your mental illness gymnastic can change that.
Okay, sure
>Topa is still female.
yes, and?
>she will never be what she is not
How is this so hard for you?
Meant for
>she will never be what she is not
that's literally pro-trans message, you fricking moron
>you're not ACTUALLY a man you're ACTUALLY a woman because you feel like it, that's why you need to cut off your genitals and have mutilating, debilitating surgeries leaving you with physical disabilities for live so you can be who you ACTUALLY are
lmfao at troons
>trans will try to spin this
>kekekekekeke
what is there to spin? Someone forcing you to be the gender you're not. Literally everyone except for hardcore chuds understood this episode correctly. Most of the regular chuds did and call it woke all over the internet.
WALL
>Born a female
>Get surgery to be male and get raised as male
>Still considers herself female
This is literally just David Reimer except gender swaped how can you say it's not based?
it's about someone de-transitioning
you're conveniently omitting the context.
you are making things up because you are a moron
you have the interview with seth macfarlane few posts above. Literally have sex.
there is literally nothing "woke" about this, it is just alien species with weird shit between their legs
I say this as someone who rages over black hobbits and so on
When I first watched this episode I thought it was gonna be troony shit, except they went the route of biological truth instead, born a girl and forcibly transitioned into a male but underneath still feels like a female
Also the new episode was pretty cool
>krill use DNA technology to project a hologram of an aborted child to have it talk to their parents
based or cringe?
That whole sequence was weird as frick to me because they were treating it as if it was some sort of terrible, cruel and unusual punishment was going to happen. I was just sitting there waiting for the holo-kid to sprout claws and shred the parents but it seems like facing the consequences of your own actions is already akin to murdertorture.
Baby of a homosexual and troony is forced to transition. The kid gets older and wants to join the 41% so detransitions against the wishes of the troony parent who gets BTFO.
Seems pretty based to me.
he is so expressive even with the makeup, this is kino
True. You could see a volcano exploding inside him through his eyes.
It pissed me off when he just gave up and ran off, it would have made more sense if Isaac hit him with knock out gas or something.
seething troony
So you were fine with the episode where they played actual clips of January 6 and said it was the worst thing that ever happened to humanity?
That was Nutrek
Wrong show, chud.
I didnt except something that based about this mentally ill troonycult from fricking Seth Mc Farlane and i still remember the Troon outrages about it, it was godly
this a pro-trans episode and trannies are praising it online.
if they are it's only because they are mentally ill morons like you
or maybe you're wrong?
no, you are just pretending to be stupid.
>this a pro-trans episode and trannies are praising it online.
They have to conveniently ignore the fact that the kid was forced to transition by its parents and is now detransitioning to see it as pro-trans
>forced to transition
>forced
you're getting there
All 'trans kids' are forced to transition
In a sense, I'd say. If the media, education system, and their peers did not shove it down their fricking throat 99% of them would never consider it
>All 'trans kids' are forced to transition
>Sorry kid you're too young to drink, drive, vote and have sex. What's that you want to be pumped full of hormones, sterilised and have you body mutilated? Well right this way.
Yep
so she chooses to live as a gender she feels she is instead of the one assigned by someone else? Intredasting.
>hurr durr my mental illness gymnastics durrrrrrrrr look how moronic I am give me (You)s
how is this gymnastics? Episode uses the same language trannies use to support their claims.
she feels female because she is female, not because of mental illness
where?
>so she chooses to live as a gender she feels she is instead of the one assigned by someone else?
To use your mentally ill terminology which states that people are "assigned" at birth.
The kid was "assigned" female at birth.
The parent forced it to under go surgery to "assigned" it male.
If the kid is living as what they were "assigned" which was is it as they were "assigned" twice by someone else?
They've been doing this ever since they got David Reimer to kill himself: co-opting his tragedy that resulted from one of their cult-leader's horrible experiments. In their minds, the basic problem with the 'John and Jane' trial was John Money not obtaining consent. It never occurs to them to explore all the ways in which consent can be unethically obtained and still be consent, because that would cover a lot of trans-activists attempts to normalise what they do now.
I can only assume this was maybe a reason McFargay didn't want to carry on with the show.
~~*The Producers*~~ wanted to really ramp things up.
MacFarlane's not involved anymore?
this is his last season, He's doing a Ted tv show. Said he was okay if Amazon wanted to continue it with out him
it took you 31 episodes to come to that conclusion? after this issue had already been raised multiple times? maybe you're just a moron
trannies BTFO and can never recover
The kid was forcibly physically changed as an infant yet still felt female. It shits on trannies.
literally a female trapped in a male body.
you are literally moronic
you're so desperate for chud content in media, you're finding it in places where there is none. It's hilarious.
It was a trash episode. The writers sperged out with their left wing bubble shit. No comedy just Tarantino tier liberal revenge fantasy.
>literally a female trapped in a male body.
No, the concept of "male" and "female" for that alien race makes no sense whatsoever. Either Seth McFarlene is simply too dumb to write an ethnical dilemma that makes any sense, or it is intentionally nonsensical in the extreme just to be funny.
..Yes., Literally a female, mutilating surgeries will never change that. Correct. Just like how trannies will never become women if they are biological males.
you're being intentionally dishonest
In what way
That is literally what happened
Topa was born female, and was surgically altered to appear like a male
She will never be a male because she is a female, nomatter what surgeries alter her
Just like trannies will never be women by cutting their wieners off or men by cutting their breasts off
In what way is this 'dishonest'? It is objective reality and fact, nothing more or less. Literally just stating facts.
except it's magic alien space surgery, not regular boring imperfect Earth surgery. She is physically indistinguishable from a natural-born male. According to your own logic, that makes her fully and truly male. The only way you get out of this conundrum is if you start admitting gender and sex are separate things. I'll wait.
>She is physically indistinguishable from a natural-born male.
Kelly literally says, "Underneath that manufactured facade Topa is still female." It doesn't matter how perfectly they made Topa appear male, it didn't change her genes.
even interview with macfarlane didn't convince you that you're wrong and moronic?
No, I didn't read it. Just post a quote if you care so much.
you're so afraid you might be wrong, you're gonna pretend this interview doesn't exist LMAO
My interpretation of the episode doesn't require the approval of the show runner.
>It didn't change her genes
you seem to be much more informed about the minutiae of magic alien space surgeries than I am. Please provide the source for this claim.
We are never given any reason to believe it does, and her coming to intuitively understand something is wrong with her body is more in support of it not. It's no different from David Reimer, who was transitioned as a newborn and raised as a girl but then came to know he was actually a boy and wanting to de-transition because biology won out in the end.
trannies irl think medical procedures magically make them the opposite sex.
>except it's magic alien space surgery, not regular boring imperfect Earth surgery. She is physically indistinguishable from a natural-born male. According to your own logic, that makes her fully and truly male
Except even the magic alien space surgery isn't perfect because Klyden was actually born female and didn't know until it was revealed in a routine medical evaluation.
>The only way you get out of this conundrum is if you start admitting gender and sex are separate things. I'll wait.
When over 99% of males identify as men and females identify as women you have to be functionally moronic of mentally ill to think that sex and gender have nothing to do with each other just because a tiny minority of less than 1% are trans.
no he's not, you are being intentionally moronic with your discord homosexuals
>male body
Anon troonys don't change bodies after operations they just get mutilated, she was always a female in a female body that got surgery to appear male
They always put Black folk in these sci-fi shows.
>They always put Black folk in these shows.
Yes
literally gay Black folk from outer space the alien race
>>be wrong
That entire alien race only exists for the purpose of gay jokes and all the moral quandaries involving them are laughable and nonsensical.
be she is female, she was force trannied
She will never be a man
>eats shit
>gets angry it tastes like shit
>I am a female
If this is the girl who was forced into sex reassignment surgery at birth then you got to be a moron to think that this is pro-troony propaganda. She is female because she was born female and no surgery or social conditioning can change that.
I aM a WoMaN wiTh A PeInIs, I wAs BoRn tHiS wAy
I don't think you read his post correctly
>still getting baited by a low effort troll
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/seth-macfarlane-orville-trans-allegory-1235175929/
CHUDS ON SUICIDE WATCH OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
It was literally promoting de-transitioning.
>aired an anti-trans episode during pride month
based seth
lol this troony truly is mentally ill.
seth macfarlane agrees with this troony
who gives a shit? he's a moron like you as well.
so he's not an authority about an episode he wrote and directed in a show he created?
yes I think Seth is too stupid to correctly write an episode if that is what he supposedly thinks, because that is not how it came off.
cope
>My interpretation of the episode doesn't require the approval of the show runner.
if you want to be correct in your interpretation, yes of course it requires that. The frick are you smoking?
The writer's intention doesn't matter if what they wrote supports a different interpretation that can be defended directly by citing the writing itself.
>if what they wrote supports a different interpretation
but it doesn't support that.
It does, and you know it does because your only defense against my points is
>b-b-but Scott said he meant...!!!
it literally doesn't support what you say the writers intentions were, if you weren't just pulling that out of your ass from the beginning which you probably were.
>parents forced child at birth to become troony
>troony wants to commit suicide
>troony detransitions
it doesn't matter what seth says because that literally what happened, face it you are wrong and got BTFO and will never be a woman no matter how many time you move the goal posts and conjure up some other metal illness gymnastics
>because that literally what happened
not even that is true. You could say she was troony if she had willingly chose to become male. But she didn't. She was all the time female in a male body. And later she decided to transition to female.
yes it exactly what happened, you are just bullshitting and there is no real reason to reply to you anymore if you are just going to play moronic over and over.
how am i playing moronic if my interpretation is the same as seth's and the same as majority of the people who watched that episode?
>how am i playing moronic if i side with all these morons?
first Boys, now Orville. It must be a painful disonance to realize that shows you thought were based are actually le woke lol
Wait so are either shows any good?
It only likes Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks and being an obnoxious lunatic.
no you are just lying now, she was born female and then they transitioned her into a male after the moclan court ordered her to be transition. if you think that didn't happen then you are a moronic liar ignoring what happened in a show that you come in here to shit on every week when you are causing cancer in /trek/ general
literally kys
you misunderstood what i wrote.
You morons really are easily triggered, the story is literally about a kid who was forced by his parents to become a troony undoing the surgery and returning to her natural gender.
This episode was so full of transphobic tropes about "detransitioning" and being suicidal.
I will never watch Nutrek.
I will never watch The Boreville.
Simple as.
>Transitioning children before they're able to make the choice for themselves is wrong
Why do we dislike this episode again?
>how am I moronic
Denying reality, and making up bullshit up and pretending it's true. Noticing a pattern with you troons.