This generation of actors is fricking embarrassing

Where is our new version of
>Bruce Willis
>Robert DeNiro
>Christopher Walken
>Samuel L. Jackson
>John Travolta
>Nicolas Cage
>Al Pacino

All these guys are in their 70s/80s. Even Leo, Pitt and Cruise are on the downside of the hill. What do we have to look forward to for actors under 35, fricking Timothee Chalamet?
It's fricking over.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >he's not a goosehead

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I like Gosling but he still seems like a grown up Mickey Mouse kid. There are no real men with gravitas who act any more.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Scanners.gif

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      gosling is 41 brah. 6 years younger than dicraprio.
      basically they are both on the back half of their careers.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Schwarzenegger was about 40 when he made Commando

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          okay? people aren't going to accept another actor who can't speak english or act anon. it's just not going to happen.
          movies are much too dialogue heavy.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >okay?
            And his career skyrocketed after that. Ryan Gosling is literally the biggest star in a generation.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Wow, he was 35 in Conan, that role feels like he's 22

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Willis
    I miss peak Bruce so godamn much

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just been rewatching Sixth Sense and he's so goddamn comfy. The whispery alpha everyman we all need in our cinema.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just been rewatching Sixth Sense and he's so goddamn comfy. The whispery alpha everyman we all need in our cinema.

      The peak Bruce action/thriller selection is all pure kino.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just been rewatching Sixth Sense and he's so goddamn comfy. The whispery alpha everyman we all need in our cinema.

      [...]
      The peak Bruce action/thriller selection is all pure kino.

      He's the archetypical white male narcissist. He appealed to narcissistic men younger than him. You don't have to say it: I know you're all old men who were watching him in ages younger than him.

      Your "dilate" comments won't end the argument.

      Real heterosexual men aren't narcissistic.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You're a moron. Willis played humble and aw schucks better than any action star ever did.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Just the fax, ma'am
          As he emphasizes his wedding ring.
          Based.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Oh wow, I remembered the phrase even though I don't remember jackshit from second die hard

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Watch some movies that aren't for children for a change.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Dial 8

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        t. twittergay

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You're stupid as hell.
        Every pussy slaying alpha "I can't even walk out the door with out getting panties thrown at me" douchebag acts like they were crafted by God himself to fix men.
        If anything, the humble types tend to be semen chuggers.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you have never dealt with narcissists

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >You make a pretty good cowboy yourself Hans

    • 2 years ago
      Absolutely Anon

      Same here.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Remember when The Whole Nine Yards was on cable more

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      we will never get a proper john mclane send off

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Die Hard with Vengeance is peak Bruce Willis filmography imo.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The Fifth Element is so fricking good bros

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the idea of "movie stars" is dead

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      no its not, they just get replaced faster

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is actually the correct answer. Production companies first realized when Capeshit started getting big that they had to rotate actors every movie to avoid anyone getting a brand or real recognition and thusly being able to negotiate with the production company for more money or royalties - since that happened, these actors will be the last ones with branding of that sort.

      Now we've gone beyond even that, to where most of our content is produced by people who do it for free on platforms like Twitch and Youtube and when they break any rules or do anything the platform holder doesn't like, they can demonetize or outright ban the 'actors'.

      You'll find that influencer-type streaming is what Hollywood is going to continue to push once our last Hollywood actors die because it fits all their needs. They make more money, their talent pool is helpless to go anywhere else or to negotiate for more money, and they can erase any sort of politics they want because the influencers have no real power.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >This is actually the correct answer.
        No it's not and your wall of text is useless. These actors get 10+ year contracts for capeshit.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We'll subsist on Cruise Kino

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cruise, Pitt and DiCaprio have another 10 good years left but wtf else do we have coming down the pipeline?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you realize cruise is 10+ years older than those other two and has been having his face CGI'd for 8 years or more now right?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Cruise
          >CGI
          Nice try.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you tried

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the word you're looking for is botox, not CGI

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >fricking Timothee Chalamet?
    Bahahahaha, eat shit zoomers.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There is always Henry Cavill.
    We are so fricked.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >we are so blessed

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Warhammer beta homosexual.
      Got humiliated by an actual homosexual on tv for his beta hobby, did nothing about it.

      Yeah Henry is a cuck

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine him playing a live action Dovahkiin

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The new crop of entertainers will come from Youtube and TikTok, not tv and cinema.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's a brave stance I would have less trouble believing if Vine gave us anyone.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking puke

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      TikTok seems very lazy, random and dumb. How does it translate into good movies? It's more related to advertizing.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >not mentioning Schwarzenegger
    git gud

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I thought about it but The Rock is pretty clearly this generation's version of Arnold. Doesn't come anywhere close in terms of movie quality, but we at least have a facsimile.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >a racially ambiguous tattooed closeted gay is our version of an übermensch bodybuilding champion whose father was literally in the SS
        Yep we're fricked.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Racially ambiguous
          Huh? He's many things but how's he racially ambiguous. The guy's clearly Polynesian even though his dad is Black Canadian or whatever the frick

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The Rock is one of the most uncharismatic and mediocre action stars ever forced.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If that’s the case that’s fricking terrible because Arnold is a legend, and in his prime did all sorts of crazy shit. Rock is already way past his and I can’t even tell you most of his movies. Guy isn’t half of what Arnold was.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This.
          I could tell you right now 15+ movies of Arnold, but I'd have trouble to remember more than 3 or the rock

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        lmao not even close you dumb gay. arnie had actual charisma and was paired with people who were more or less on par with his own physical prowess. even in the terminator movies he gets fricked up quite a bit. the rock is always with smaller, weaker people so he can mog/bully them if he's ever challenged - often some generic white dude. he is very rarely in a position of real vulnerability. it's forced and fricking gay mary sue shit.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If you count his role as a wrestler I'd say that's definitely the best thing he's ever done.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        nah, Arnie actually had some passion for cinema
        rock is pure soi

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Arnie's career were a streak of luck, i mean he decided to work with a bunch of especially talented directors like Jim Cameron, John McTiernan and Paul Verhoeven that elevated his status from a simple action star to film legend. He was basically putting himself in a right place in a right time when film directors were still have this degree of creative freedom and experimentation and he decided to partake in some parts of that process. I don't think The Rock compares at all, unless he decided to work on a bunch of directors that are willing to work on a very experimental stuff which is not many in today's Hollywood i'm afraid.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I wish it was john cena. He could have been a perfect captain america

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why dont you do it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They're not coming. Just like rock is done, too. And stand-up comedy. And novels. Should I go on? Maybe there's some born genius rebel who'll prove me wrong.

      I'm trying bros. 15 spec scripts and counting, some of them great but the frickers won't respond to my submissions and I guess would rather keep sharting out IP and capeshit ad infinitum until the economy crashes or cinema just ceases to be a thing anymore.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Im not israeli

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You're missing out.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They're not coming. Just like rock is done, too. And stand-up comedy. And novels. Should I go on? Maybe there's some born genius rebel who'll prove me wrong.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Jason Statham ran hot for a while. Then everyone got tired of his movies.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      no he just decided to literally only do fast and furious, because he doesn't need anything else.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Statham is just a slightly more talented Seagal, which actually makes him way more boring by comparison. He never made anything half as good as Under Siege.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I like Statham too but his range is so narrow and he's 54 at this point, playing 30s is starting to become a stretch.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He mostly plays 40+ year olds nowadays, but yeah, always a decade younger than his real age. He has always looked like a cinderblock, so I wouldn't be surprised if he could eke out another decade of making direct-to-dvd action movies before finally throwing in the towel or embracing a tough old man persona like Jeff Bridges has for the past decade.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        crank 1 & 2

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know, Wrath of Man was one of the best movies I saw last year.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the same movie over and over

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think Tom Hardy and Christian Bale are based, but they're not under 35 either.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >zoomers masculine action hero actor is Chris Pratt
    no wonder their generation is so feminized

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He was 44 when Signs came out.

    If Signs came out today, who would you cast as the 40-something father?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Frick, I forgot to include Mel in the list of actors who can't be replaced.
      To answer the question, probably Leo or Pitt.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    its all about brands and art house films

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >males
    why are you conveniently forgetting phenomenal female actresses, chud? Zendaya has more star power than any of those

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nothing wrong with Gosling

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Nothing wrong with Gosling
      He is Canadian

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He's a shit actor for a start

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Asmongold is instead of him now

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Tfw when don't even know any modern actors under 35. I don't think I could even tell you one.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ezra had promising talent until he went full nuclear homosexual and imploded his career for no reason.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Literally, WHO!?????

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They literally have an extra chromosome,, was always a genetic dead end freakshow.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >They
          Will you stop this shit? Nobody's gonna make a cancel point for you if you just say he, especially when the guy just uses it as defense to assault people and frick kids

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What about "it"?
            These freaks should use that instead. It makes more sense grammatically

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I agree with you lmao. People go for the they/them nowadays because it's trendy I swear to God.
              Also if you want to have a laugh: they/them was originally designed by the alphabet people to be gender neutral, but now zoomers on twitter have a meltdown if you use they for someone with other pronouns because THEY ISN'T GENDER NEUTRAL ANYMORE YOU TRANSPHOBE!! Hopefully they eat themselves up

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >They

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          man I wish ezras psychosis lead him down the path of onlyfans porn instead of making him a weirdo kidnapper

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >they
          There is more of them?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >They
          Wew

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Barry Keoghan is the current GOAT

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Henry Cavill.

    Movies are dead.

    Hollywood is dead.

    Actors refuse to retire and pass the mantle.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's only franchises now. No more actors with any clout. They're all replacable plebs, just like us. Except they still make millions for the time being.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That list is prettt shitty already compared to the golden age of holiwood

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Uh bro I think you meant to post Cary Grant. Jimmy Stewart was a fricking stiff.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How he was fricking stiff? Are you ok anon?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He was literally a yokel beta in every role. Did some good work with Hitchwiener but lets not pretend he was some unreplaceable legend.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            He fell into the naive role quite early in his career, but had an impresive range when needed.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Damn right

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Frick, imagine anybody like a young Mitchum in movies now. The twitter trannies would seethe and swoon at the same time.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine what they'd do with James Dean..

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ?t=16

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Just watched the 1940 remake a few days ago. What a movie!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Uh-uh I say now, howld onaminnit. Ah...are you telling me, this fella? This fella right here, well let's see now.... you're saying old Jimmy Stewart was some kind of a good- no, no, no... some kind of somethin special? As an actor, I mean. Is that whatcha mean now?

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What a shitty list you made, lad

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He was the generation before my list. You're looking for the list of dudes who sucked off Marlon Brando in the 60s.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >no modern Steve McQueen

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I love McQueen and yeah I wish we had a young movie star like him now, but Pitt surpassed him IMO. More handsome of a pretty-boy and also took riskier roles. McQueen could've never pulled off Tyler Durden.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    *saves cinema*

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    no one cares about movie stars now it's all about the franchise

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They were good actors because they had a good team, good directors and all the rest. Now you've got paint by number CGI fest that are just shit and you expect good actors or directors to do that. They won't and that's all that's profitable these days so cinema is dead and that's a good thing.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Leave mediocre, uncharismatic acting to me

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What other black guy should've replaced him? Michael Ealy?

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The ONLY actor that I would like to have a career boom is Aidan Gallagher. He is brilliant on the only part he's in.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I miss the period where actors were suposed to be able to play an instrument, sing and dance on top of actually be good at acting.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Capeshit killed the movie star

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      For now. These things move in cycles. Now that capeshit is on the decline, we just need to move on to the next thing. The problem is, Twitter gave the wrong people a mouthpiece. Now the “Alpha Dog White Male Hero” is seen to be “problematic” by studio execs because of the Twitter screeching.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Man, I fricking hope you're right. The studios need a turn back to original spec writer-driven content. The endless tide of CGI sequel drek needs to fricking collapse and die already.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >The studios need a turn back to original spec writer-driven content.
          New New Hollywood coming back

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            We are at a point where the name value of the franchise is bigger than the name value of the actors. They are stuck making quips in front of a green screen.
            See: rising star Tom Holland in an ill-fitting role in Uncharted, it's like a boy wearing his big brother's suit. It doesn't work.

            Young-ish guys that will continue to make kino:
            >Jake Gyllenhall
            >Goose
            >Robert Pattinson
            >Adam Driver
            >Shia (if he doesn't kill someone)
            There are also a bit older guys that can still do physical roles and have plenty left in the tank:
            >Tom Hardy
            >Christian Bale
            >Fassbender
            >Cumberbatch
            >Rufus Sewell (less known but insane actor)
            etc.

            The recession will do one of the two things:
            1) smaller budgets with original scripts will allow creativity to flourish
            2) they will double down on a corporate MCU dystopia we had for the last x years

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Superhero and franchise movies have stolen charismatic male actors that could be making pure kino. There are a decent amount of cool character actors still floating around now before they get too old

      *saves cinema*

      These guys are pretty kino

      The ONLY actor that I would like to have a career boom is Aidan Gallagher. He is brilliant on the only part he's in.

      >Aidan Gallagher
      a literally who zoomer twink?

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Bruce Willis being a huge action star is one of the biggest irl shitposts Hollywood ever made.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just wait ten years max for all actors to be replaced by CGI/AI-generated/deepfake models of the actors you named and Old Hollywood actors.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Prime Clint Eastwood teaming up with prime Charlton Heston and prime Kirk Douglas? I mean, it has potential if the studios are brave enough to use a script and director who could maximize that potential. Too bad it’ll be woke propaganda.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It'll be Matt Smith's time to shine soon. You'll see.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The US kinoma from the 70's to the 00's was lightning in a bottle, when prosperity, and influx of first gen or second gen european migrants (especially Italians, very artistically gifted people), newfound artistic freedom after 1 century of cringe prottie puritanism coming to an end and an interesting geopolitical climate all aligned.
    The US as a country devolved back into puritanism of a new kind since, one that puts the perceived feeble people on a pedestal (gaygs and blackies). The economy, including the media industry, is locked in a vicious Medici death spiral where monopolies push the legislation and cultural narrative they want, which preserves their inefficient business models which is sheltered and doesn't evolve, etc, etc. So I would argue US cinema, alongside many other things, is dead and there won't be any new golden generation any time soon. There are good US actors but not much more than there are good danish, spanish or russian actors.
    And true kino is non US made more often than not for the last decade.
    There's no clear kino machine country and there probably won't be, but russian, spanish and nordic cinema has consistently gotten better the last decade. Russians used to make an occasional low budget kino now and then, but have been pumping 4-5 absolute kinos with better budgets for a decade now. French, Italian or German cinema have good movies here and there too.
    I would argue that South Korean and Chinese cinemas have improved a lot and could be as good as nordic and russian cinema soon, but that's a bit more controversial.
    I have no particular hate towards the US, but I believe their time is over.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Based breakdown but the US has always been the innovator of world creativity, all other countries just imitate to the best of their abilities. If there's no US renaissance, there just won't be one IMO... but I think there will be... I know I'm writing my ass off to make sure of it, but no way to tell if I'll ever be able to get anything made.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This is very short sighted. The US have been around for a short time only and Spain, France and Italy have historically pulled innovation. Even when the US was already well established and powerful, french and italian cinema are the ones that pulled the art form forward in the 60s. The US adopted many of its codes afterwards. The reverse was true as well of course, but french and italian waves were more significant. I would argue soviet movie making too but then homosexuals like

        Ivan stop. This is embarrassing. Russians make nothing but low quality CGI sci-fi and capeshit flicks or cringe inducing war hero movies similar to the American pathos shown in garbage like American Sniper.

        would call me Russian.
        I'm french, but the US haven't made a movie of the calibre of The Return, Petrov's Flu, the Execution or Captain Volkonogov escaped in a while. Even shitty genre movies like sci fi horror are much more soulful and artistic in Russia (see Sputnik, the Blackout). Even their no brainer action movies are more innovative (Hardcore Henry, Anna).

        Good analysis, but American filmmakers deserve credit for their time in that period as well.

        They absolutely do. The US has comented its mark on the history of cinema for good. And there are a few youngish US kino masters still working like PTA, David Mitchell probably, etc. But they have fewer and fewer freedom from the studios and the general (vocal) public.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I get that you like your cute European art films, and they have their own place and influence, but modern cinema begins and ends with Hollywood.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I think you're confusing cinema as an art form with entertainment for the masses. What made the US cinema of the 70's to the 00's great was that these two kinds of movies sometimes aligned. That's why many Americans have trouble with separating quality from commercial success and popularity.
            But art has always been elitist. Here in France it's well known and accepted that way too popular movies are usually worthless artistically and it's only okayish for comedies. If you want to see a good movie, it won't be a popular one because it won't have mass appeal. Same goes for music, plays, even ballets and operas. The Lion King musical play is the most popular musical in France, but it doesn't come close to the quality of a Tchaikovsky or Vivaldi adaptation.
            Tarkovsky, Buñuel, Sorrentino, all great filmmakers. They're nowhere near the highest earners. Kubrick, Veerhoeven or Carpenter were able to do both, and that's why americans confuse the two. But that's very very rare, not the norm. Spielberg is worthless shlock, for instance.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Only in America though have the budgets and production quality reached a certain level, to be the gold standard of world cinema. There's a reason Hollywood attracts all the best talent from around the world, not just bigger paydays but top quality set design, cinematography, camera technology, etc. I agree that US cinema still hasn't reached a level of high art that it potentially could, but what's the value of high art if it's done on a small scale with a limited release and no one sees it?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If you're going to fellate yourself it's ok but don't expect me to take you seriously.
                I just read "muh money money money".
                How is any Marvel movie with 1 billion+ budget any better than Solaris, made 50 fricking years ago? I don't mean artistically either, I'm talking about the camera work, setting, image, etc. The technical aspects of it.
                Besides, the best US movies of any genre were the low budget ones usually (the thing, alien, taxi driver, etc) while high budget ones like Star Wars, saving private Ryan or the peplum homosexualry were embarrassing.
                Except Kubrick, which is the one exception that makes your argument work in the slightest.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Give me one Euro film with cinematography on the level of Citizen Kane. How about The Searchers? These are old examples too. The Godfather I and II... nothing I've seen in Euro cinema even comes close to the technical grace, image quality, contrast and saturation that Coppola achieves. Even Leone, who made some of the most iconic and visually brilliant Italian films, came to Hollywood to make his magnum opus about America.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Holy pleb.
                La gran belleza, sous le soleil de Satan, le samouraï, le charme discret de la bourgeoisie, Ivan's childhood, el labirintio del fauno, le guépard, le grand bleu, nostalgia, antichrist, hard to be a God,...
                Citizen Kane is overrated. Any Buñuel or Melville movie is superior.
                The godfather and Leone movies are half European for me, and far from being the absolute best of cinema. Sorrentino surpassed Leone in image composition and subtle allegory.
                Again, I'm not saying US cinema is bad, but you're too confident it's the best thing ever while you probably haven't watched much else.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for that

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but Welles did a one hit wonder and directors like Tarkovski, Bergman, Renoir or Varda outdid everything he ever made even back then.
                But I understand your confusion, every anglo language website puts Kubrick, Hitchwiener, Spielberg, Scorcese, Coppola, Tarantino and some other schmuck in the top 10 invariably, while no sane person would argue Spielberg, Hitchwiener or Tarantino did anything outstanding with the medium. Anglos are always sniffing their own farts, that's a fact.
                They just acknowledge Kurosawa as the foreign token director so it doesn't look too biased. For some reason they also excluded Polanski recently as if being a rapist suddenly made him a bad director, and worse, as if he did it yesterday. He's been praised for decades while being known as guilty and only in recent post MeToo age has he fallen out of grace. My point is your rankings aren't based on artistic value, but feelings and general sentiment.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The high budget of Hollywood made it the home of spectacle while Europe became the home of art films. Bollywood is now catching up with Hollywood when it comes to spectacle as their films have soul compared to America's Cape Kino.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Good post

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ivan stop. This is embarrassing. Russians make nothing but low quality CGI sci-fi and capeshit flicks or cringe inducing war hero movies similar to the American pathos shown in garbage like American Sniper.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Good analysis, but American filmmakers deserve credit for their time in that period as well.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Movie stars are kinda dead. It used to be that the actor carried a movie. Now you're just a product being carried by a cinematic universe. Anthony Mackie talked about this: you're not Chris Evans, you're Captain America.

    Also it doesn't help that most zoomers nowadays are either homosexuals or were raised by a single mother and feel threatened by the idea of masculinity. The producers simply reflect the society by casting twinks and basedboys.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Those kinds of stars have been around for a long time. Mark Hamill was Luke Skywalker, Michael J Fox was Marty McFly, Leonard Nimoy was Mr Spock.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That's true but it feels like nowadays there's no alternative. Movies, at least the successful ones, are broke down to a recipe, like a fricking assembly line at McDonald's.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Michael J. Fox was much more than Marty McFly, at least in the 90s.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Movie stars are kinda dead.
      Tired of this meme. And every time someone parrots it they use Disney MCU has the basis of their argument...because some of the stars from the MCU made videos stating that same thought process. Cinema is more than Disney's Capeshit.

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Where is our new version of
    In India

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You get queer israelites instead.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tim Chalupa looks like when nobility would lock up their most inbred children in secret rooms

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yep

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can't you see the world, the west and its cultural context are changing?
    The 2010s were a fricking disgrace.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Leo
    Unironically frick that reddit b***h

    >Timothee Chalamet
    I don't get how some think of him as a new Johnny Depp, when it feels to me he's more of a Ewan Mcgregor really.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      kendall bros we're gonna win season 4 this time it will be different i can feel it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        i don't think we're going to make it ken bros

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    literally everybody on this list bar Cage is a shit actor though

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can't spell capeshit without ape shit.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Culture is too spread out now. Back in the day, everyone watched the same set of movies and TV shows, so popular actors got super popular. Also no one was distracted by internet or social media.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I think its less obsession with one person and more there's not enough big macho action guys with charisma that OP is talking about.

      Its probably because the generation under 35 are pussy whipped homosexuals.

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They will deep fake them all, no problem

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I heard a story on NPR that the primary model for box-office bankability changed from actors to franchises when the first Spider-Man came out in '02

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The early 00s in general was a massive time for franchises. Star Wars, X-Men, Harry Potter, LotR, Spiderman, Pirates of the Caribbean, etc

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's even worse with female actors ironically. The bigger feminism got the less people cared about pretty women on the silver screen I guess.

    Still we had Meg Ryan, Kidman, Cameron Diaz... names that could carry a movie, especially next to a popular male star, now there isn't a SINGLE A-List actress in Hollywood left, only a couple aging b-listers like Paltrow.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I think its also due to companies not liking big personality, complex artists with life experience and having meek boring betas they can boss around.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It's even worse with female actors ironically

      Nope. Women actually get way better parts and careers now. Sure, you have less STARS, but that's a good thing. 10-20 years ago women over forty would basically get just shitty small supporting roles as wives, grannies, etc. Now Kate Winslet can headline star in limited series like Mare of Easttown to great critical acclaim. Helen Mirren's career has only gotten bigger the older she gets. Amy Adams has done some of her best work in her 40s.

      People really don't seem to remember anymore that women used to have a very narrow window where you either made it as a young actor and became big for a brief period before the new IT girl happened, or you didn't make it at all. Now women are able to have stable careers and build them through decades without having to do bit parts as moms.

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    like wrestling stars, hollywood doesnt want a hulk hogan or austin or rock - people with massive charisma and talent and ability to dictate terms to them. they want interchangeable pieces they control and they built and 'made into stars'. they dont want their business dependent on the whims of another person that might not want to suck their dick or let them shit on their chest for a movie role. they dont want people that pick and choose roles. they want their army of golems and nepotism based selections like that boy they found at a bar mitzva or their brother's niece or some other simpleton that will do what they ar etold at all times, accept all propaganda and give up their public persona to PR firms and do every little thing they want. they want complete control of hte message and medium. if they allowed talented individuals in that everyone loved and let them run wild, youd get antisemitism everywhere and pollute their message and movies that arent just money laundering operations with green screen ps2 graphics sfx that cant even compare to original green screen shit like first matrix despite 10 times the budget. it would expose their own garbage films and ponzi scam.

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I’m sure they said the same things about Marlon Brando, Humphrey Bogart, etc. although they were right too

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bruce Willis was a tv actor like Woody Harrelson in the '80s. NO one thought they would be legends.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Shit, Denzel too

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Pierce Brosnan too, although I know it’s slightly off topic

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    L. Jackson
    Has he ever been in a good film other than Unbreakable, Die Hard 3 a tiny role in Goodfellas?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pulp Fiction
      Hateful Eight
      Jackie Brown
      Kong: Skull Island
      The Long Kiss Goodnight
      Shaft (2019)
      Black Snake Moan
      Sunset Limited
      51st State

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Sunset Limited
        Only good movie in that list lel.
        Jackie Brown was decent and the only good Tarantino flick.

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    DeNiro
    ezra miller, then
    because de niño has also been on the run for diddling underages (1998, in France)

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Movies are an exclusivity play, you take rare and good stories that may be true, could be true, resemble a desire for attaining more truth and you embellish the frick out of them until everyone is so satisfied they forget it's fake.

    Now that stories propagate so well over the internet and reach can be 100% of all who want to know a story or archetypal morale, that makes the exclusivity play dead on arrival.

    No one can claim to be underground or underrated with a straight face, which was the main recommendation engine driving cinema. All that exists is pop and poop. Everyone knows you've had full access to the world and failed to delight indiscriminately - thus your story is denatured.

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >fricking Timothee Chalamet?
    See, your first mistake was only looking at the pool of male-born actors. You need to get with the times gramps and realize the next generator of actors will come from the female-born pool.

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cavill.

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No one can touch Mickey Rourke. No one will ever have that much presence on screen, that much range and talent, ever again.

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What were the previous versions of
    >Bruce Willis
    >Robert DeNiro
    >Christopher Walken
    >Samuel L. Jackson
    >John Travolta
    >Nicolas Cage
    >Al Pacino

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Probably guys like Errol Flynn, Steve McQueen, Sidney Poitier, Charles Bronson, etc

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Sidney Poitier
        Lmao he's literally black. Get out liberal

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I was watching Are You Being Served with my dad, and we couldn't help but discuss at how HUMAN the actors looked back in those days. Sure they were ugly, but atleast you could tell who was a man and who was a woman. No one had on 7 pounds of makeup, they were all wearing suits and not some ridiculous colorful outfit. Actors these days try so hard to transcend humanity.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not even actors but everyone in media from music to daily news shows looked and acted normal. I hate the 21st century look so much its unreal

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Pre-2012 was unironically the last years where people in the entertainment industry looked like grown ups. I honestly think it's because of the "gay trend". Everyone has to not only look homosexual, but they have to look ill, too.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the 70s
      >at least you could tell who was a man and who was a woman
      >No one had on 7 pounds of makeup
      >they were all wearing suits and not some ridiculous colorful outfit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That is just 1 example.

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who fricking cares? They were good entertainers back when the general population barely knew how to read. Most of these actions flicks are embarrassingly bad

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There are no Rock Stars. There are no Movie Stars.
    Your stars are PewDiePie and Pokeymane.
    We warned you.
    We begged you.
    This is YOUR fault.
    But you can save yourself.
    Join us, there are unmowed lawns and lonely White Claws.
    Join us.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How is it any different? People are still worshipping fake idols

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Funny how just as the fake idols started disappearing all the youngins started having identity crises and everyone's non-binary now. You don't need something to worship but ideals to strive for or else it's just unfocused nonsense.

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I agree. Modern actors are a charisma vacuum.
    We don't even get good character actors anymore.

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    been saying this for a while now, we simply don't have good actors anymore. the homosexuals that stand in front of the camera not only lack charisma but also presence. absolutely nobody in current hollywood can hold a candle to the actors we had even 20 years ago.

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You're making movies for China now

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    nah ryan gosling is gay as hell

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They're making TV shows, since movies are less prestigious now.

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