Welp prepare for all these shitty animated studios to just copy past this type of animation onto every fucking film... prepare for more woke garbage being shoved down people's throats because EVERYBODY LOVES BLACK SPIDER MAN...you idiots had one job, u went after little mermaid but didn't go after this despite it having a pro trans kid sign which is far worse than anything in little mermaid
Bro have you been asleep since 2018? Every studio in numerous countries loved the animation so much they all started doing it. Hell, the new prince of persia animated trailer did the spiderverse style.
In that regard, it makes you wonder if Cinemaphile just force themselves to hate Spiderverse because they dare put a well developed and likable African American on screen.
Bro have you been asleep since 2018? Every studio in numerous countries loved the animation so much they all started doing it. Hell, the new prince of persia animated trailer did the spiderverse style.
>ArcSystem low FPS meme >Telltale cel shading meme >cinematic chromatic aberration meme >"everyone's copying Spider-Verse!!"
I hate midwits so much it's unreal
It popularized things everyone else was already doing by attaching it to capeshit, why should I care, next you're going to say EEAAO is fresh and creative for using the multiverse 50 years after the comics wore them out
It popularized things everyone else was already doing by attaching it to capeshit, why should I care, next you're going to say EEAAO is fresh and creative for using the multiverse 50 years after the comics wore them out
You don't need to pretend to be retarded, we know art isn't made in a vacuum, but saying Spider-Verse hasn't influence the look of modern American animation is just not true. At this point it had even managed to reach Japan: >https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-05-06/gundam-creator-yoshiyuki-tomino-expresses-thoughts-on-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-film/.146439
It popularized things everyone else was already doing by attaching it to capeshit, why should I care, next you're going to say EEAAO is fresh and creative for using the multiverse 50 years after the comics wore them out
>wokes won >chuds cry and piss their shitty brown bermudas (AGAIN) >and Trump lost, got impeached twice and currently investigated for 10+ crimes
ngl but I love this heckin timeline
I did not enjoy Spidermutt: Across the Wokeverse. The same critics that rated Black Panther the best film ever are doing the same to this because it follows the same play book. Unnecessarily drawn out story and overload of shitty characters I couldn't care less about. The first one was good though. This was just boring.
Probably still better than Spiderverse. Mario was a family film. That's why it had really small drops each weekend. Spiderverse is playing to the usual capeshit crowd
These really do feel like your typical Cinemaphile threads. >OMG! New game did well in sales! >YOU LOST! WE WON!
Like, what did you win? You don't get to see any of that money. All you get to do is shitpost on Cinemaphile. You're still here being losers with the rest of us.
And how does Miles' tour de force sequel to an award winning movie both with worldwide acclaim making less money than The Amazing Spider-Man 2 BTFOing chuds? They did everything they can to make people like Miles from a gargantuan artistic effort to having every Spider-Man ever cameo in his movie, and it's still drawing less interest from the audience than Garfield-Man fighting dubstep Electro
6 months ago
Anonymous
Movie been out less than 2 weeks 😉
6 months ago
Anonymous
And the optimistic projections for the total put it at 700M, less than The Amazing Spider-Man 2
6 months ago
Anonymous
You really think two months more in theaters with summer it can't pass that? Optimistic estimates also put it at $80 mil opening, it did $120.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Depends on how well it can do against a lot of competition this month.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>You really think two months more in theaters with summer it can't pass that?
With its average legs going against Fast X, Flash, Elemental, Indiana Jones, Transformers, yeah it doesn't seem likely, at best it still can't beat TASM2's inflation adjusted BO of 910M
6 months ago
Anonymous
It's currently outgrossing daily transformers total already btw. Spiderverse does not have average legs, it continues to sell out.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>muh daily domestic cherrypicked day
Transformers is #1 worldwide dumbass
>Spiderverse does not have average legs
55% drop is a bit worse than average, true, Mario's second week drop was 36% for comparison
6 months ago
Anonymous
Spiderverse only dropped due to loss of Imax and such. Selling out rooms while Transformers is empty already.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Summer movies make well over half their final box office after the first two weeks except for very few outlier freaks like Top Gun
6 months ago
Anonymous
Miles movie is more profitable.
6 months ago
Anonymous
And you own Sony shares so that matters to you?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Starts bringing up box office numbers >Point out that the Miles movie has a much smaller budget than live action movies
>Assuming a marketing cost of between $100 million and $125 million, the break-even point for Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse is between $450 million and $500 million at the worldwide box office, not including post-theatrical revenue streams.
They still haven't broken even
From you very same article: >Moreover, assuming that the film’s final international gross matches the domestic number, as was the case with Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse should, at minimum, finish with a worldwide box office gross of at least $700 million.
That's what cope looks like, all the Spider-Chuds were coping "Spider-Man isn't black!!" the exact same way 12 years ago and look where we are now, Miles-Chuds are next
Earth-65 Peter was the trans one and you know it. Gwen was supporting him in his MtF decision. His story fitted the whole trans/gay/lycanthrope coming out themes better than anything Gwen had.
>Were U wen Gwen iz grrl? >Me was butfukking her pal Peter behind siyunce lab
I think the theory is bullshit, but I love the online shitshow between rabid transgender fetish fans and Miles x Gwen interracial fetish fans.
Let them fight.
Fuel the fire.
>love the online shitshow between rabid transgender fetish fans and Miles x Gwen interracial fetish fans.
this only good thing to come from this shitty movie
it is amusing, realistically I'm sure a fair amount of the posts on both sides are trolls just trying to get a rise out of people, but the idea that people are actually getting upset whether a fictional cartoon girl is trans or not is hilarious
Movie convinced me a relative is a braindead retard cause couldn't understand the ending. Kept going on about how could Miles' parents recognise Gwen. I kept having to explain over and over that Miles was slingshot into a nightmare dimension and Gwen returned to his dimension/intended destination. Relative kept repeating again and again how could Miles' parents recognise Gwen. Got to the point where I got baffled as to how they possibly could be confused over the ending.
This person still believes in the Russian collusion thing with the fervour of a religious zealot and is pro-drugs to solve any personal issue a person has like unhappiness or alcohol at the drop of a hat, so not the most level headed of individuals here.
Spider-vwrse franchise reshaped animation industry as a whole. The franchise with the most cultural relevance and cultiral impact at the moment. People in 2050 would look back at spiderverse films as the most important animation of the 10s-20s
Only creatively inept weeb would deny this. Meanwhile most popular cartoon of 2023 is spiderverse, most popular cartoon of 2022 is spiderverse inspired puss in boots 2 and most popular cartoon of 2021 is spiderverse inspired arcane
I suspect that if they decide to replace Peter Parker and put the negro as the main Spider Man people wouldn't mind, these movies proved that people love the idea of a black spider man being the protagonist
Zoomers love naggers so it makes sense, glad I'm not into capeshit anymore
Mario made a billion, Spiderverse won't
Simple as >m-making money isn't an indicator of quality
This thread is about Spiderverse's financial success at the box office. Now that you're losing the argument as people compare ATSV's success to other recent animated films, you have to go with the muh money doesn't matter only artistry argument as a cope. As if you wouldn't be gloating that Spiderverse was doing Mario numbers if that was the case.
what art negro, spiderverse is literally just anime style spiderman, there is nothing innovative about it, and I can show you works done in the same style as spider verse before it came out
What experimental animation techniques were used in Spider-Verse
Even anime and manga leaders admit how amazing and innovative it was. If you know about animation you can just know by looking. If not, you can check youtube to see how others explain it, because you need visuals.
the japanese would eat a dish made of shit and say it is the best thing they have ever tasted if they are told it is american, they are an american colony buck broken by the empire, but Spiderverse was literally animated in an anime studio in Japan and the lead animator is also japanese
>Even anime and manga leaders admit how amazing and innovative it was.
99% of anime is essentially perfected limited animation. They're not exactly authority on experimential techniques.
6 months ago
Anonymous
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Even anime and manga leaders admit how amazing and innovative it was. If you know about animation you can just know by looking. If not, you can check youtube to see how others explain it, because you need visuals.
but spiderverse uses the exact same techniques as anime because it is done by anime animators, the chopped frames, the exaggerated poses, the flashy colors everytime something flashy happens, it is all in anime, so much so the tranny sisters put all that in their Speed Racer movie so it could feel like a real live action anime, what has spiderverse done different from anime before? the cel shading? it already existed
6 months ago
Anonymous
I guess they only got the shitty japanese animators then because anime films shit all over this capeshit
They must have gotten seriously ripped off
6 months ago
Anonymous
the writers and producers of the movie are all americans, but the direction of the animation is entirely japanese, that's why this movie is prized only for its animation but no one says the story or even the characters are good outside of the negro worshippers who say the characters are good because they are black nothing else
Nah Puss in Boots held its own against Avatar, and the sequel to the movie that supposedly inspired it can't stand against the fucking Flash and Trans-Formers lol
the one billion box office for Mario Movie, although the ones making it are japanese people and not whites but spiderverse is also made by the japanese anyway, btw enjoy your buck-breaking when the israelites accept they put the transexual flag in Gwen's room and father's uniform because she is in fact a troon, you will always be a baboon slave, the only good thing about israelite is that they have back stabbed everyone who has relied on them
>our long awaited adaptation of the most iconic video game character, the first one in 30 years, made a bit more money than a masterpiece about black spider-man in the age of cape fatigue
Do matiokeks really?
It has an over 50% drop off after the first weekend and the first weekend made 120M domestic
So considering it's looking like it has shit legs, which is par for the course for capeshit this isn't Tom Cruise of James Cameron, so it'll be 300M domestic, maybe 350M at best, and the international market is looking grim, if it matches the domestic it'll be a miracle
So 700M as the absolute best case scenario, 500M as a more realistic one
Obviously it's already a bug success because it needed 300M to break even
It has an over 50% drop off after the first weekend and the first weekend made 120M domestic
So considering it's looking like it has shit legs, which is par for the course for capeshit this isn't Tom Cruise of James Cameron, so it'll be 300M domestic, maybe 350M at best, and the international market is looking grim, if it matches the domestic it'll be a miracle
So 700M as the absolute best case scenario, 500M as a more realistic one
Obviously it's already a bug success because it needed 300M to break even
>Before movies needed 1.5 to 2x to break even >UH ACTUALLY IT NEEDS 3-4x
LMAO
>k and? >If anything it'll keep losing screens considering the upcoming movies which leads to further drops in revenue
Its selling out while transformers died already. It will sell out as the rest premiere and die.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Ok I'll try to explain it better
If it's selling out with reduced screens it means it's currently earning the most it can
Since new films will come out it'll inevitably lose more screens and the revenue will keep dwindling because you simply have a low ceiling if you only have a few screens
Do you understand now?
6 months ago
Anonymous
And I'll explain for you, once more. These other movies will leave theaters while Spiderverse keeps playing.
The rule is 2.5 times the budget, so 350 million was its break-even point
>because it needed 300M to break even
*400M
Beside spider verse is a domestic heavy movie, which means it doesn't need a box office as high for the studio to make a profit. As much as ti would have if it succeded in China since studios basically get nothing from this country.
>take beloved alternate minority Spider-Man that has unique stories and events and villains >imply he's an irrational villain that just copies Peter wholesale >take hated alternate minority Spider-Man whose every story is just copying Peter >imply he's an unique original hero that's doing his "own thang" and breaking away from the pattern
So fucking petty god damn
Why can't Cinemaphile be happy such an artful and experimental film that took huge risks is succeeding? Its the story of the little guy against the big guys who run town and beating them all.
Blackwashing iconic white characters and putting pro-trannie propaganda aren't risks, such things are practically a requirement in modern israeliteywood. lol
>an artful and experimental film that took huge risks
Where >Its the story of the little guy against the big guys who run town and beating them all.
Nigga Spider-Man is the biggest superhero IP in the world
>Various new techniques were developed including the rigging and animating of facial line work, 2D hand-drawn effects and stylized rendering. >In order to do this we developed a new line drawing system in which an artist could draw lines on a character the way an illustrator might. These lines were then converted to geometry and rigged for animation. Other lines that were based on geometry such as those drawn on the nose, ears and hands were more predictable and required less hand keyframe animation. This predictability allowed us to use machine learning algorithms to automate the animation of these lines.
If you actually care:
https://www.imageworks.com/our-craft/feature-animation/movies/spider-man-spider-verse
That was in Peanuts 3 years before, do you have anything actually new?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Is not the exact same, anon. You have no idea what kind of programs you need to do something like Peanuts or something like Spider Verse
6 months ago
Anonymous
Your article describes ink lines drawn directly on 3D models, which is what Peanuts had 3 years before Spider-Verse, do you have any actually experimental animation techniques in Spider-Verse or were you talking out of your ass the whole time
6 months ago
Anonymous
They don't use the same programs, please direct me to whenever they say that they use the Peanut software or techniques on Spider-Verse because I'm genuinely curious if that's a real thing that happen. As far as I've seen both teams were trying to recreate a 2D comic book film but they din't use the same things.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Anon using a different program doesn't make it a new animation technique, there is literally no difference between animating something in Photoshop, or in ToonBoom, or on paper, if the actual final frames look the same, that's just using a different tool to achieve the same result
6 months ago
Anonymous
Is not just that you need to take in account, Peanuts is not an action movie, is not trying to give you a 360° look with extreme angles, the techniques you use for something like Peanuts wont suffice to do the same with something like SpiderVerse
6 months ago
Anonymous
You have no idea what you're talking about
6 months ago
Anonymous
I have more than you, who think that is the same thing animating Peanuts than animating Spider Verse. If you have any sources to justify your claims, post them.
6 months ago
Anonymous
You said Spider-Verse used experimental animation techniques and you still haven't proved it
6 months ago
Anonymous
I posted it, since most of their techniques for hyper stylized action 3D animation are used today.
6 months ago
Anonymous
And I posted proof to the contrary
6 months ago
Anonymous
You didn't post anything.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Peanuts >released in 2015 >has ink lines on 3D models >Spider-Verse >released in 2018 >has ink lines on 3D models
6 months ago
Anonymous
I went and check, and no, the technique they used was imitating stop-motion animation. >https://www.motionpictures.org/2015/11/the-peanuts-movies-animation-supervisor-on-getting-the-gangs-into-3-dimensions/
6 months ago
Anonymous
That has nothing to do with the argument we were having
>they used was imitating stop-motion animation.
Yes Peanuts also had 3D at 12FPS like stop motion animation 3 years before Spider-Verse did, do you want to post even more evidence to my claims?
6 months ago
Anonymous
I think you must have misunderstood what "developed a new line drawing system in which an artist could draw lines on a character the way an illustrator might" means
6 months ago
Anonymous
>"developed a new line drawing system in which an artist could draw lines on a character the way an illustrator might" means
Yes, a tool to do the same thing Peanuts did years before, even worse because Peanuts probably did it manually for every frame while Spider-Verse let AI do the work
6 months ago
Anonymous
They didn't do that in Peanuts anon, it doesn't mean "motion lines" which are what you show in your image.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Do you see Charlie's eyes? See how they're ink lines like in a comic book? You know, the thing you said Spider-Verse invented?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Is not about how it looks, the software used on Spider-Verse allow them to do character line animation by predicting how to draw the lines for the next frame, they invented a new software, that's why they could also use it for hard surface models too, Peanuts was done by 3d sculpting the lines in the model (that's why is limited only to the characters ) as far as I know.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The software is a tool, not an animation technique, do you have any idea what you're talking about? What Spider-Verse did was basically create a tweening tool for the ink lines, instead of drawing them by hand, tweening tools are nothing to be proud of, it's like claiming Flash animation was some groundbreaking innovation when it just fostered laziness instead of handmade inbetweens.
>Peanuts was done by 3d sculpting the lines in the model
It wasn't, the lines are flat.
6 months ago
Anonymous
inventing new tool is part of the craft, now you're just being obtuse for no reason.
And about the peanut face: >So how did Blue Sky solve this? They created a way for the eyes, eyebrows and surrounding expression lines, which were called ‘sixes’, ‘nines’, and ‘periwinkles’, to slide around on the face of the characters during animation. The required a new facial rig. “What we did was shrinkwrap the eye mask area so these things slide across the surface,” explains Carroll. “We didn’t want to be completely free form on there because you would get all kinds of weird penetrations or it would completely pull off the face and you’d get weird shadows.”
https://www.fxguide.com/fxfeatured/the-tech-of-the-art-of-the-peanuts-movie/
6 months ago
Anonymous
>inventing new tool is part of the craft, now you're just being obtuse for no reason.
You claimed it's a new animation technique, it's not, it's just a tool for lazily imitating and automating what used to be done by hand.
>And about the peanut face:
That's talking about the fact their faces are modeled toward the camera angle rather than having them conform to 3D space, for example
Do you see Charlie's eyes? See how they're ink lines like in a comic book? You know, the thing you said Spider-Verse invented?
Snoopy's both eyes are facing the camera like Peppa Pig when realistically the other eye should be facing away and not be seen by the camera if his head was true 3D, ANOTHER thing Peanuts had years before Spider-Verse, keep that evidence for my arguments coming.
6 months ago
Anonymous
it is a new technique, that's why they managed to apply it to hard surfaces.
And you claimed that the lines in Peanuts were flat, they're not, they are just masked to look flat.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>it is a new technique, that's why they managed to apply it to hard surfaces.
I think you have no idea how easy it is to apply flat textures to 3D models, see those photos on the door in pic related? They are just flat drawings on a hard 3D surface, this is nothing new or experimental
>they're not, they are just masked to look flat.
They're literally flat lines on a 3D model, use your eyes
6 months ago
Anonymous
You know the difference between your claims and mine? Mine actually have sources from the animator while your are just pics from movies you think look similar.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Your animator sources literally keep proving me right over and over because you don't know anything about animation and don't know how to interpret the words being said
6 months ago
Anonymous
Sure anon, you keep telling yourself that because "Spider-verse bad" or whatever shit you believe. You don't care about 3D animation or how it's done.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I'd say sorry for embarrassing you repeatedly using your own sources but I'm not sorry, you should've checked yourself before you Dunning-Kruger wrecked yourself
6 months ago
Anonymous
Whatever helps you sleep at night, your refusal to learn is amazing.
6 months ago
Anonymous
N-no, actually you're are wrong because..*tips fedora*..umm because i am very smart!
6 months ago
Anonymous
N-no, actually you're are wrong because..*tips fedora*..umm because i am very smart!
Pathetic projection lol
6 months ago
Anonymous
LMAO IS THE EXACT SAME STYLE OF ANIMATION AND
I went and check, and no, the technique they used was imitating stop-motion animation. >https://www.motionpictures.org/2015/11/the-peanuts-movies-animation-supervisor-on-getting-the-gangs-into-3-dimensions/
IS COPING HARD
WHY DID NOBODY PRIZE THIS MOVIE IN 2015? OH I KNOW SCHEKELSTEIN DIDN'T FORCE EVERY SINGLE SOI DRINKING homosexual TO DO IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE naggerS IN IT
Dude it's just a bunch of shitposters. And don't even care about Mario in the first place
>wokes won >chuds cry and piss their shitty brown bermudas (AGAIN) >and Trump lost, got impeached twice and currently investigated for 10+ crimes
ngl but I love this heckin timeline
Course A: Admit you are wrong and question your own prejudices and perception to come out a better person.
Course B: Seethe, cry, whine, and claim everyone in the world is wrong but you, the guy that washes dishes for a living, is right.
Kek i remember how back when first spiderverse came out retards were pretending that fucking PROMARE is more innovative and influential than spiderverse lmao. Never take spiderverse haters seriously
>B-but what about mario >B-but what about the most blatant nostalgia bait in movie history featuring iron boy >B-but what about..!
The seething is real
He has no point, he lost is just upset that people used examples of other Spider-Man films and recently released animated films to thoroughly debunk his argument.
>trannies making up shit about tranny representation >/misc/ crying about black people and muh west has fallen
both sides are fucking retarded, it's a spiderman movie, the whole point of spiderman is that he could be anybody in-universe, be it a white, pajeet or nagger. That's the point. And inb4 trannies start crying about muh representation, you 41%'s will take anything and run with it, and it's retarded. There is nothing in the comics about her being trans, and the only thing you're going off is the color palet. By that standard, Miles is a nazi. Cope, seethe and cry about it. The movie is fun and is gonna make a ton of money, and neither side is gonna get what it wants
>the whole point of spiderman is that he could be anybody in-universe, be it a white, pajeet or nagger
When specifically was that ever the point before Spider-verse? It was always Peter Parker. Peter Parker is Spider-Man
>Spiderverse is innovative and a leap in animation >designers say this >artists say this >animators say this >writers say this >directors say this >actors say this >execs and producers say this >critics and general audiences say this >even musicians say this >all around the world people say this >well documented fact that will be used as a pillar in the industry >UH NO LOL
Some of you need to grow up already, kek. This is a fact at this point, not an opinion. Not up for debate. End of story.
and if they didn't Mr Schekelstein Schlomoberg would fire every single last one of them and make sure they all become homeless without any hope to find a job again
It helped that its competition is worse.
I'm not watching this bilge but what else can I watch - "The Boogeyman"? Or maybe The Little Merkween Yas.
Ah well, back to Cinemaphile I guess, I still need to get through the first Everspace
>TLJ
Nigga i'm pretty sure chuds were right about that one. Monumental drop in the box office and star wars is pretty much dead in theaters. This one is way more universally loved by normies. The third one may even crack a billion
It's funny seeing people with no credentials argue against people with education and experience. No one should take a word they say seriously. They are simply wrong.
>It looks similar if you change the 3d animation to a mixture of 2d and 3d, change color gradings and add specific filters used in the film
Stealth spiderverse praise
>a mixture of 2d and 3d, change color gradings and add specific filters
Wow you genuinely have no fucking clue about animation or even visuals in general
>Arguments get posted >Umm wow you're like wrong, i won't specify why you are wrong and won't provide "correct" arguments either because my narrative will fall flat
Lmao. You have no idea what you are talking about btw
6 months ago
Anonymous
>arguments get posted >arguments are laughably and self-evidently wrong
There's nothing 2D about that image and chromatic aberration is not color grading, that leaves only filters which is not an impressive artistic achievement in any way and actually look quite ugly
6 months ago
Anonymous
Wow you have no idea what you are talking about lol
I feel like i liked the first one more tbh. This one felt too much like a "part 1" movie and the spider people in the first one were better, gwen,noir,peni,peter b>
[...]
sir, cringe anarchist spider, black pregnant woman spider. The only standout here was 2099.
WAIT ARE YOU TELLING ME THE ANIMATION STYLE ALL THESE homosexualS SAID SPIDERVERSE INVENTED WAS IN FACT INVENTED BY A CHARLIE BROWN MOVIE, THE ONE CARTOON ALL THESE homosexualS HATE FOR BEING THE WHITEST SHIT EVER... LMAO
>if i'll keep telling him he's wrong that'll convince him!
Fucking LOL! Imagine malding over the most important animation of the decade (so far (because verse 3 isn't out yet)) so hard
Might go and see again if they’ve fixed the fucking audio by now.
They said they contacted theaters on sunday to fix it.
Seriously? I've never heard of that happening before.
Even movies have Day 1 Patches now?
>inb4 some cope about trannies that aren't there
>uppity buck already coping
>the second reply in the thread and the milesbros are already malding
Americans just can't not go see a movie with nikgers in it can they?
im a racist hungarian and i liked it.
It's because of the trans representation
Welp prepare for all these shitty animated studios to just copy past this type of animation onto every fucking film... prepare for more woke garbage being shoved down people's throats because EVERYBODY LOVES BLACK SPIDER MAN...you idiots had one job, u went after little mermaid but didn't go after this despite it having a pro trans kid sign which is far worse than anything in little mermaid
Bro have you been asleep since 2018? Every studio in numerous countries loved the animation so much they all started doing it. Hell, the new prince of persia animated trailer did the spiderverse style.
Prepare for even more of it to the point of where it becomes unbearable
Cope, you will never win.
The animation style has been copied since the first spiderverse... the Puss in Boots movie that Cinemaphile creamed itself over used it extensively.
In that regard, it makes you wonder if Cinemaphile just force themselves to hate Spiderverse because they dare put a well developed and likable African American on screen.
>but didn't go after this
Every Spiderverse thread is full of seething.
Cinemaphile just doesn't have the influence you seem to think it does.
Do you mean black batman or black Superman?
Cinemaphile lost, there will be more Spider-Verse to come, Miles will have a long and healthy career.
Will we get a sir spider man movie?
>ArcSystem low FPS meme
>Telltale cel shading meme
>cinematic chromatic aberration meme
>"everyone's copying Spider-Verse!!"
I hate midwits so much it's unreal
Yeah, I am sure the fact that everything changed after Spiderverse was applaused by people who makes these things is a coincidence.
see
Even when they outright say otherwise?
You don't need to pretend to be retarded, we know art isn't made in a vacuum, but saying Spider-Verse hasn't influence the look of modern American animation is just not true. At this point it had even managed to reach Japan:
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-05-06/gundam-creator-yoshiyuki-tomino-expresses-thoughts-on-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-film/.146439
It popularized things everyone else was already doing by attaching it to capeshit, why should I care, next you're going to say EEAAO is fresh and creative for using the multiverse 50 years after the comics wore them out
>It popularized things
Yes anon. That's what influencing things mean. You make something popular, not necessarily invent it.
And why should I care for Spider-Verse taking a good thing and making it cancerous and then spreading it?
Well, Spider-verse has a legacy already, while you don't
>killed Spider-Man for twitter clout
I am in awe of its legacy
HolyCope
yiiiiip yip yip yip yip
low FPS meme
cel shading meme
chromatic aberration meme
It's not that these things are bad individually, but they can be when stapled together
>things that came out way before spider-verse
are you retarded?
>u went after little mermaid
miles morales is an original character
peter parker is still a caucasian in this film.
>miles morales is an original character
Lol no, original characters wouldn't get you sued by the original company if you made them outside the company
>wokes won
>chuds cry and piss their shitty brown bermudas (AGAIN)
>and Trump lost, got impeached twice and currently investigated for 10+ crimes
ngl but I love this heckin timeline
Every human being on earth loves Spider-man. I don't know why but he speaks to our soul no matter the color he is
>Every human being on earth loves Spider-man.
I don't
I did not enjoy Spidermutt: Across the Wokeverse. The same critics that rated Black Panther the best film ever are doing the same to this because it follows the same play book. Unnecessarily drawn out story and overload of shitty characters I couldn't care less about. The first one was good though. This was just boring.
It's actually right-wing and not woke at all... because... it didn't go broke.
Mariobros what the fuck is this???
Stop bringing up Mario. Mario's worldwide opening was 370mil and that didn't open everywhere at once either
yeah, the last jedi was way worse, shit was probably talked about for like a year straight or something
I wonder how mario would have fared against such a packed release season than against absolutely nothing.
Probably still better than Spiderverse. Mario was a family film. That's why it had really small drops each weekend. Spiderverse is playing to the usual capeshit crowd
Like elemental or the kraken movie coming up? Seethe.
No. Like Mario
Why does Cinemaphile choose to seethe about a new movie every month
it was alright, the first one was a better movie overall.
too many scenes of baw my feelings shit
Why can't Cinemaphile learn to enjoy things and let go of their ego? Everyone is taking this Spiderman movie like an event. Join us.
people watching this are braindead morons
Why?
Can I get Miguel's physique natty?
He's been gene-edited.
Sony lost. Nintendo won.
These really do feel like your typical Cinemaphile threads.
>OMG! New game did well in sales!
>YOU LOST! WE WON!
Like, what did you win? You don't get to see any of that money. All you get to do is shitpost on Cinemaphile. You're still here being losers with the rest of us.
Dude I could have sworn peter Parker was originally white
uhhhhhh Cinemaphileirgins i thought this was supposed to flop???? g-g-g-go woke go b-broke?????
It's not woke at all. It's conservative.
I don't think I have ever seen a movie cause more mind break with mentally ill people (trans and Cinemaphile users) than Across the Spider-Verse
Then you haven't been here very long.
Why is meltdown at 700 million, that's still lower than any other Spider-Man movie except ITSV
Don't bring that up. We try to ignore this movie when we talk about success. Right, Nintendo sisters?
Because they also cost double (or more) to make than Spider-Verse does.
And? Are you a stakeholder at Sony?
No, I'm one at Nintendo.
No I just like seeing chuds get BTFO.
And how does Miles' tour de force sequel to an award winning movie both with worldwide acclaim making less money than The Amazing Spider-Man 2 BTFOing chuds? They did everything they can to make people like Miles from a gargantuan artistic effort to having every Spider-Man ever cameo in his movie, and it's still drawing less interest from the audience than Garfield-Man fighting dubstep Electro
Movie been out less than 2 weeks 😉
And the optimistic projections for the total put it at 700M, less than The Amazing Spider-Man 2
You really think two months more in theaters with summer it can't pass that? Optimistic estimates also put it at $80 mil opening, it did $120.
Depends on how well it can do against a lot of competition this month.
>You really think two months more in theaters with summer it can't pass that?
With its average legs going against Fast X, Flash, Elemental, Indiana Jones, Transformers, yeah it doesn't seem likely, at best it still can't beat TASM2's inflation adjusted BO of 910M
It's currently outgrossing daily transformers total already btw. Spiderverse does not have average legs, it continues to sell out.
>muh daily domestic cherrypicked day
Transformers is #1 worldwide dumbass
>Spiderverse does not have average legs
55% drop is a bit worse than average, true, Mario's second week drop was 36% for comparison
Spiderverse only dropped due to loss of Imax and such. Selling out rooms while Transformers is empty already.
Summer movies make well over half their final box office after the first two weeks except for very few outlier freaks like Top Gun
Miles movie is more profitable.
And you own Sony shares so that matters to you?
>Starts bringing up box office numbers
>Point out that the Miles movie has a much smaller budget than live action movies
A...are...you..a..a..Sony shareholder???
No, those guy are too busy spending their Spider-Verse cash to shitpost here.
>Assuming a marketing cost of between $100 million and $125 million, the break-even point for Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse is between $450 million and $500 million at the worldwide box office, not including post-theatrical revenue streams.
They still haven't broken even
https://movieweb.com/spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-box-office/
From you very same article:
>Moreover, assuming that the film’s final international gross matches the domestic number, as was the case with Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse should, at minimum, finish with a worldwide box office gross of at least $700 million.
Top fucking kek, that link isn't worth the click.
>Using Sony to fight against sony
Lmao, desperate.
It's more of a Peter multiverse vs Miles multiverse movie comparison
$700 million would probably make it the 2nd most profitable movie of the year (behind Mario). Essentially the exact opposite of 'Get Woke Go Broke'.
700mil is possible. digital and physical release is in August.
Trans representation isn't going anywhere, this is just the beginning. Deal with it, chudcels
Pity this one twitter post has more views than pretty much all the pro-'gwen is trans' posts combined at this point.
That's what cope looks like, all the Spider-Chuds were coping "Spider-Man isn't black!!" the exact same way 12 years ago and look where we are now, Miles-Chuds are next
Earth-65 Peter was the trans one and you know it. Gwen was supporting him in his MtF decision. His story fitted the whole trans/gay/lycanthrope coming out themes better than anything Gwen had.
>Were U wen Gwen iz grrl?
>Me was butfukking her pal Peter behind siyunce lab
Nah the Sony contracts forbids them from making Peter anything but a cis straight white man
You aren't acknowledging that they also amputate their penises
I think the theory is bullshit, but I love the online shitshow between rabid transgender fetish fans and Miles x Gwen interracial fetish fans.
Let them fight.
Fuel the fire.
>love the online shitshow between rabid transgender fetish fans and Miles x Gwen interracial fetish fans.
this only good thing to come from this shitty movie
it is amusing, realistically I'm sure a fair amount of the posts on both sides are trolls just trying to get a rise out of people, but the idea that people are actually getting upset whether a fictional cartoon girl is trans or not is hilarious
That's interesting because the original didn't make a lot of money in the theaters. Word of mouth marketing is still a thing
Movie convinced me a relative is a braindead retard cause couldn't understand the ending. Kept going on about how could Miles' parents recognise Gwen. I kept having to explain over and over that Miles was slingshot into a nightmare dimension and Gwen returned to his dimension/intended destination. Relative kept repeating again and again how could Miles' parents recognise Gwen. Got to the point where I got baffled as to how they possibly could be confused over the ending.
Did you tell your friend little kids understood the movie?
This person still believes in the Russian collusion thing with the fervour of a religious zealot and is pro-drugs to solve any personal issue a person has like unhappiness or alcohol at the drop of a hat, so not the most level headed of individuals here.
Zoomers worship naggers and Sony, not surprising
No. Those zoomers worship trannies and Nintendo.
>woke move does poorly
>anti-woke is successful
so nothing out of the ordinary here
And it won't premiere in many countries now that we know some nagger boy wants mtf tranny cock in his mouth and butthole. Blackoids BTFO.
Spider-vwrse franchise reshaped animation industry as a whole. The franchise with the most cultural relevance and cultiral impact at the moment. People in 2050 would look back at spiderverse films as the most important animation of the 10s-20s
Nah, only someone with absolutely no knowledge of animation could claim something this silly
Except for the fact people in the animation industry have said this.
>he thinks people in the animation industry have knowledge of animation
>Random retard thinks he knows more than people working in the industry
Opinion discarded
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning
Only creatively inept weeb would deny this. Meanwhile most popular cartoon of 2023 is spiderverse, most popular cartoon of 2022 is spiderverse inspired puss in boots 2 and most popular cartoon of 2021 is spiderverse inspired arcane
>most popular cartoon of 2021 is spiderverse inspired arcane
Like I said, zero knowledge of animation, this is pretty embarrassing for you anon
Compare arcane trailers before spiderverse trailers began dropping in 2017, what a sudden style change after that.
Please stop you're giving everyone second hand embarrassment
>Meanwhile most popular cartoon of 2023 is spiderverse
Actually that's Mario
>most popular cartoon of 2022 is spiderverse inspired puss in boots 2
Actually that's Minions
>and most popular cartoon of 2021 is spiderverse inspired arcane
Actually that's Encanto
Leave your Twitter bubble sometimes
>Actually that's Mario
>Actually that's Minions
>Actually that's Encanto
Jesus Christ redditors are retarded
Leave your twitter bubble sometime, you know it's a feedback loop right
>Redditor keeps bringing up twitter on Cinemaphile
Lol
>defending twitter and reddit's favorite movie
>accusing others of being twitter and reddit
>D-dude i'm not from reddit here's a KyM filename reaction gif look how not from reddit i am!
>mindbroken completely after being called out
Sad
I suspect that if they decide to replace Peter Parker and put the negro as the main Spider Man people wouldn't mind, these movies proved that people love the idea of a black spider man being the protagonist
Zoomers love naggers so it makes sense, glad I'm not into capeshit anymore
The last Spider-Man film released in theatres made way more by its second weekend
>Carries your movie
And they said general audiences would reject a trans love interest
No Way Home made nearly 2 billion worldwide by the end of its run, at this rate ATSV will be lucky to get close to a billion
Don't mention that. Mario still hasn't made 2 billion. Any day now.
>Sony vs Sony
lol. All Spiders work together.
What matters is that the Miles Defense Force loses to Peter Parker chads
>mario forgotten after people left the theater
>Spiderverse will be studied and sampled for decades to come
>burgers worship black people
What a discovery
Mario made a billion, Spiderverse won't
Simple as
>m-making money isn't an indicator of quality
This thread is about Spiderverse's financial success at the box office. Now that you're losing the argument as people compare ATSV's success to other recent animated films, you have to go with the muh money doesn't matter only artistry argument as a cope. As if you wouldn't be gloating that Spiderverse was doing Mario numbers if that was the case.
Everyone is rooting for Spiderverse to pass Mario because art should prosper over commercial. Bring this up after even 2 weeks have passed at least.
>art should prosper over commercial.
So why are they rooting for Spider-Verse lol
what art negro, spiderverse is literally just anime style spiderman, there is nothing innovative about it, and I can show you works done in the same style as spider verse before it came out
Even anime and manga leaders admit how amazing and innovative it was. If you know about animation you can just know by looking. If not, you can check youtube to see how others explain it, because you need visuals.
>Even anime and manga leaders admit how amazing and innovative it was.
>If you know about animation you can just know by looking
LOL
the japanese would eat a dish made of shit and say it is the best thing they have ever tasted if they are told it is american, they are an american colony buck broken by the empire, but Spiderverse was literally animated in an anime studio in Japan and the lead animator is also japanese
>Even anime and manga leaders admit how amazing and innovative it was.
99% of anime is essentially perfected limited animation. They're not exactly authority on experimential techniques.
but spiderverse uses the exact same techniques as anime because it is done by anime animators, the chopped frames, the exaggerated poses, the flashy colors everytime something flashy happens, it is all in anime, so much so the tranny sisters put all that in their Speed Racer movie so it could feel like a real live action anime, what has spiderverse done different from anime before? the cel shading? it already existed
I guess they only got the shitty japanese animators then because anime films shit all over this capeshit
They must have gotten seriously ripped off
the writers and producers of the movie are all americans, but the direction of the animation is entirely japanese, that's why this movie is prized only for its animation but no one says the story or even the characters are good outside of the negro worshippers who say the characters are good because they are black nothing else
Mario still didn't break even. The marketing budget alone was 1 billion.
Only on animation. The story is laughably dumb.
Spider-nagger will be lucky to make half of the 1.3 billies Mario made. lol
Mario released with no other movies in theaters making Spiderverse much more impressive.
Nah Puss in Boots held its own against Avatar, and the sequel to the movie that supposedly inspired it can't stand against the fucking Flash and Trans-Formers lol
>you either choose puss or avatar
Vs
>choose from spiderverse or
Mermaid
Fast Furious
Transformers
Pixar
Dreamworks
Indiana
Mission impossible
Its so funny to see you people rally behind PiB2 in am attempt to downplay spiderverse.
PiB didn't shit on beloved characters to push hated ones
If it does less then the Mario movie then white people still won. It doesn't matter
Won what?
the one billion box office for Mario Movie, although the ones making it are japanese people and not whites but spiderverse is also made by the japanese anyway, btw enjoy your buck-breaking when the israelites accept they put the transexual flag in Gwen's room and father's uniform because she is in fact a troon, you will always be a baboon slave, the only good thing about israelite is that they have back stabbed everyone who has relied on them
Do you only know how to communicate by using buzzwords?
He's right though, israelites betray everyone in the end. Even their fellow israelites.
israelites created spider-man.
True and based. White people always win in the end.
>inb4 "HURR, Italians aren't white! XD"
Mario has blue eyes, therefore he's white. PERIOD. Fuck off. lol
>Verification not required.
You do know black people can have blue eyes, right?
Yes, but Mario has light-coloured skin. He's not a shitskin like you and Spider-nagger. lol
He's still Italian, and therefore, not white.
Italians are white. Your divide-and-conquer tricks will never work on me, israelite. Seethe. lol
But israelites are white.
No, israelites aren't white. One-drop rule, nagger.
You don't even know what the one drop rule is lol
>our long awaited adaptation of the most iconic video game character, the first one in 30 years, made a bit more money than a masterpiece about black spider-man in the age of cape fatigue
Do matiokeks really?
>masterpiece
Is the tranny kid flag shit going to be in the china version?
It has an over 50% drop off after the first weekend and the first weekend made 120M domestic
So considering it's looking like it has shit legs, which is par for the course for capeshit this isn't Tom Cruise of James Cameron, so it'll be 300M domestic, maybe 350M at best, and the international market is looking grim, if it matches the domestic it'll be a miracle
So 700M as the absolute best case scenario, 500M as a more realistic one
Obviously it's already a bug success because it needed 300M to break even
>because it needed 300M to break even
*400M
Why?
3 times the production budget is standard for breaking even and that budget is 100M
Marketing is usually about the same as production budget, and all the revenue is split in half with theaters in the best case scenario
>Before movies needed 1.5 to 2x to break even
>UH ACTUALLY IT NEEDS 3-4x
LMAO
this is so sad
Every showing keeps selling out
Then where does that massive drop off come from?
Before marketing budgets weren't as big as the production budget
Theaters don't take that much
Loss of imax and other big screens. It has less rooms.
Ok and?
If anything it'll keep losing screens considering the upcoming movies which leads to further drops in revenue
Holy shit, covid has really been a disaster for films
>k and?
>If anything it'll keep losing screens considering the upcoming movies which leads to further drops in revenue
Its selling out while transformers died already. It will sell out as the rest premiere and die.
Ok I'll try to explain it better
If it's selling out with reduced screens it means it's currently earning the most it can
Since new films will come out it'll inevitably lose more screens and the revenue will keep dwindling because you simply have a low ceiling if you only have a few screens
Do you understand now?
And I'll explain for you, once more. These other movies will leave theaters while Spiderverse keeps playing.
The rule has always been 2.5, so it needed 250 million to break even.
Stop making shit up because you don't like a movie that's pathetic.
The rule is 2.5 times the budget, so 350 million was its break-even point
2.5 the production budget, not the production and marketing.
Beside spider verse is a domestic heavy movie, which means it doesn't need a box office as high for the studio to make a profit. As much as ti would have if it succeded in China since studios basically get nothing from this country.
NWH did 2 billion without China
Yeah
Only people with dirt taste care how much a movie makes
>take beloved alternate minority Spider-Man that has unique stories and events and villains
>imply he's an irrational villain that just copies Peter wholesale
>take hated alternate minority Spider-Man whose every story is just copying Peter
>imply he's an unique original hero that's doing his "own thang" and breaking away from the pattern
So fucking petty god damn
Why can't Cinemaphile be happy such an artful and experimental film that took huge risks is succeeding? Its the story of the little guy against the big guys who run town and beating them all.
Dude it's just a bunch of shitposters. And don't even care about Mario in the first place
>that took huge risks
Blackwashing iconic white characters and putting pro-trannie propaganda aren't risks, such things are practically a requirement in modern israeliteywood. lol
>an artful and experimental film that took huge risks
Where
>Its the story of the little guy against the big guys who run town and beating them all.
Nigga Spider-Man is the biggest superhero IP in the world
I guess you need to know about animation to get it. Don't worry, all your favorite creators will talk about what a gamechanger it is for you.
What experimental animation techniques were used in Spider-Verse
>Various new techniques were developed including the rigging and animating of facial line work, 2D hand-drawn effects and stylized rendering.
>In order to do this we developed a new line drawing system in which an artist could draw lines on a character the way an illustrator might. These lines were then converted to geometry and rigged for animation. Other lines that were based on geometry such as those drawn on the nose, ears and hands were more predictable and required less hand keyframe animation. This predictability allowed us to use machine learning algorithms to automate the animation of these lines.
If you actually care:
https://www.imageworks.com/our-craft/feature-animation/movies/spider-man-spider-verse
That was in Peanuts 3 years before, do you have anything actually new?
Is not the exact same, anon. You have no idea what kind of programs you need to do something like Peanuts or something like Spider Verse
Your article describes ink lines drawn directly on 3D models, which is what Peanuts had 3 years before Spider-Verse, do you have any actually experimental animation techniques in Spider-Verse or were you talking out of your ass the whole time
They don't use the same programs, please direct me to whenever they say that they use the Peanut software or techniques on Spider-Verse because I'm genuinely curious if that's a real thing that happen. As far as I've seen both teams were trying to recreate a 2D comic book film but they din't use the same things.
Anon using a different program doesn't make it a new animation technique, there is literally no difference between animating something in Photoshop, or in ToonBoom, or on paper, if the actual final frames look the same, that's just using a different tool to achieve the same result
Is not just that you need to take in account, Peanuts is not an action movie, is not trying to give you a 360° look with extreme angles, the techniques you use for something like Peanuts wont suffice to do the same with something like SpiderVerse
You have no idea what you're talking about
I have more than you, who think that is the same thing animating Peanuts than animating Spider Verse. If you have any sources to justify your claims, post them.
You said Spider-Verse used experimental animation techniques and you still haven't proved it
I posted it, since most of their techniques for hyper stylized action 3D animation are used today.
And I posted proof to the contrary
You didn't post anything.
>Peanuts
>released in 2015
>has ink lines on 3D models
>Spider-Verse
>released in 2018
>has ink lines on 3D models
I went and check, and no, the technique they used was imitating stop-motion animation.
>https://www.motionpictures.org/2015/11/the-peanuts-movies-animation-supervisor-on-getting-the-gangs-into-3-dimensions/
That has nothing to do with the argument we were having
>they used was imitating stop-motion animation.
Yes Peanuts also had 3D at 12FPS like stop motion animation 3 years before Spider-Verse did, do you want to post even more evidence to my claims?
I think you must have misunderstood what "developed a new line drawing system in which an artist could draw lines on a character the way an illustrator might" means
>"developed a new line drawing system in which an artist could draw lines on a character the way an illustrator might" means
Yes, a tool to do the same thing Peanuts did years before, even worse because Peanuts probably did it manually for every frame while Spider-Verse let AI do the work
They didn't do that in Peanuts anon, it doesn't mean "motion lines" which are what you show in your image.
Do you see Charlie's eyes? See how they're ink lines like in a comic book? You know, the thing you said Spider-Verse invented?
Is not about how it looks, the software used on Spider-Verse allow them to do character line animation by predicting how to draw the lines for the next frame, they invented a new software, that's why they could also use it for hard surface models too, Peanuts was done by 3d sculpting the lines in the model (that's why is limited only to the characters ) as far as I know.
The software is a tool, not an animation technique, do you have any idea what you're talking about? What Spider-Verse did was basically create a tweening tool for the ink lines, instead of drawing them by hand, tweening tools are nothing to be proud of, it's like claiming Flash animation was some groundbreaking innovation when it just fostered laziness instead of handmade inbetweens.
>Peanuts was done by 3d sculpting the lines in the model
It wasn't, the lines are flat.
inventing new tool is part of the craft, now you're just being obtuse for no reason.
And about the peanut face:
>So how did Blue Sky solve this? They created a way for the eyes, eyebrows and surrounding expression lines, which were called ‘sixes’, ‘nines’, and ‘periwinkles’, to slide around on the face of the characters during animation. The required a new facial rig. “What we did was shrinkwrap the eye mask area so these things slide across the surface,” explains Carroll. “We didn’t want to be completely free form on there because you would get all kinds of weird penetrations or it would completely pull off the face and you’d get weird shadows.”
https://www.fxguide.com/fxfeatured/the-tech-of-the-art-of-the-peanuts-movie/
>inventing new tool is part of the craft, now you're just being obtuse for no reason.
You claimed it's a new animation technique, it's not, it's just a tool for lazily imitating and automating what used to be done by hand.
>And about the peanut face:
That's talking about the fact their faces are modeled toward the camera angle rather than having them conform to 3D space, for example
Snoopy's both eyes are facing the camera like Peppa Pig when realistically the other eye should be facing away and not be seen by the camera if his head was true 3D, ANOTHER thing Peanuts had years before Spider-Verse, keep that evidence for my arguments coming.
it is a new technique, that's why they managed to apply it to hard surfaces.
And you claimed that the lines in Peanuts were flat, they're not, they are just masked to look flat.
>it is a new technique, that's why they managed to apply it to hard surfaces.
I think you have no idea how easy it is to apply flat textures to 3D models, see those photos on the door in pic related? They are just flat drawings on a hard 3D surface, this is nothing new or experimental
>they're not, they are just masked to look flat.
They're literally flat lines on a 3D model, use your eyes
You know the difference between your claims and mine? Mine actually have sources from the animator while your are just pics from movies you think look similar.
Your animator sources literally keep proving me right over and over because you don't know anything about animation and don't know how to interpret the words being said
Sure anon, you keep telling yourself that because "Spider-verse bad" or whatever shit you believe. You don't care about 3D animation or how it's done.
I'd say sorry for embarrassing you repeatedly using your own sources but I'm not sorry, you should've checked yourself before you Dunning-Kruger wrecked yourself
Whatever helps you sleep at night, your refusal to learn is amazing.
N-no, actually you're are wrong because..*tips fedora*..umm because i am very smart!
Pathetic projection lol
LMAO IS THE EXACT SAME STYLE OF ANIMATION AND
IS COPING HARD
WHY DID NOBODY PRIZE THIS MOVIE IN 2015? OH I KNOW SCHEKELSTEIN DIDN'T FORCE EVERY SINGLE SOI DRINKING homosexual TO DO IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE naggerS IN IT
I was talking about Mario.
>Nintendo
>Illumination
>little guys
You meant Mario because of his height, right?
>experimental
You have no idea what experimental filmmaking is
Define experimental filmmaking
Well it's definitely not capeshit in the age of capeshit and multiverse slop in the age of multiverse slop
>Can't define experimental filmmaking
You have no idea what experimental filmmaking is
see
See
>Posts spiderverse inspired films and cartoons (but muh spiderverse isn't influential btw)
>Adds smach clones to make the chart bigger
Lol
>Rick and Morty
>Adventure Time
>Flashpoint
>Ready Player One
>Space Jam
>Wreck It Ralph 2
>inspired by Spider-Verse
>8 ouf 26 things on my list weren't inspired by spiderverse, take THAT!
Stealth spiderverse praise posting
>multiverse was popular years before Spider-Verse
>but every multiverse thing after Spider-Verse was inspider by Spider-Verse!!
lol anon
lmao
>Space jam is multiverse
Keep posting, i haven't laughed that hard in a while
You really need to go back to Twitter
>KyM tranny redditor keeps crying about twitter
Course A: Admit you are wrong and question your own prejudices and perception to come out a better person.
Course B: Seethe, cry, whine, and claim everyone in the world is wrong but you, the guy that washes dishes for a living, is right.
Why choose the path of misery?
>He thinks I do something for a living
You have no power here. lol, lmao even
where is the source?
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2812183041/?ref_=bo_hm_rd
that would mean 2nd international week was as big as the first one
Western animation peaked in this scene. Its not going to get better than this.
I don't know I think they can top it, specifically the scene where gwen tops miles in the sequel
#transrights #lovewins
>33k 8 days ago
B-BUT THE MOVIE IS HUGE I P-PROMISE!!!
>reaction spam
He's losing it
Kek i remember how back when first spiderverse came out retards were pretending that fucking PROMARE is more innovative and influential than spiderverse lmao. Never take spiderverse haters seriously
Stop it anon, Gwen's cock is only for Miles. He wouldn't let any other zesty buck gobble that up
Amerisharts can't help worshipping the ugly, from animation to protagonists.
Miles is slick no cap
Z
this style of animation of 3d models with cel shaded lines was done first by Infini T Force, then again both Spiderverse and Infini T Force are animes
now imagine how well it would've done if it featured the real spider-man that people care about.
>B-but what about mario
>B-but what about the most blatant nostalgia bait in movie history featuring iron boy
>B-but what about..!
The seething is real
Lmao true. These guys got BTFO by box office, critical reception and audience reception.
But ATSV is the exact same kidslop reference fest nostalgia bait as both of those, what's your point
He has no point, he lost is just upset that people used examples of other Spider-Man films and recently released animated films to thoroughly debunk his argument.
ummm Ariel sisters???!
>trannies making up shit about tranny representation
>/misc/ crying about black people and muh west has fallen
both sides are fucking retarded, it's a spiderman movie, the whole point of spiderman is that he could be anybody in-universe, be it a white, pajeet or nagger. That's the point. And inb4 trannies start crying about muh representation, you 41%'s will take anything and run with it, and it's retarded. There is nothing in the comics about her being trans, and the only thing you're going off is the color palet. By that standard, Miles is a nazi. Cope, seethe and cry about it. The movie is fun and is gonna make a ton of money, and neither side is gonna get what it wants
Based, the guys in the center is watching both sides putting on an after show.
>the whole point of spiderman is that he could be anybody in-universe, be it a white, pajeet or nagger
When specifically was that ever the point before Spider-verse? It was always Peter Parker. Peter Parker is Spider-Man
>the whole point of spiderman is that he could be anybody in-universe, be it a white, pajeet or nagger. That's the point
That's not the point
>the whole point of spiderman is that he could be anybody in-universe, be it a white, pajeet or nagger.
You have never read Spider-Man. Also, nagger.
>Miles is a nazi
If Miles had a nazi flag in his bedroom that'd be pretty clear evidence he's a nazi though
Is the Spider-Man from the 90's cartoon in it, if yes is he great as he was in the show?
No and the entire movie is a strawman of people who expect any reason to care about a non-character protagonist by the directors' own admission.
>No
Then I won't bother with it.
>Spiderverse is innovative and a leap in animation
>designers say this
>artists say this
>animators say this
>writers say this
>directors say this
>actors say this
>execs and producers say this
>critics and general audiences say this
>even musicians say this
>all around the world people say this
>well documented fact that will be used as a pillar in the industry
>UH NO LOL
Some of you need to grow up already, kek. This is a fact at this point, not an opinion. Not up for debate. End of story.
Guess you'd jump off a bridge if they said it's a good thing
>just accept what people in the industry say about their friend's work
and if they didn't Mr Schekelstein Schlomoberg would fire every single last one of them and make sure they all become homeless without any hope to find a job again
>telltale's walking dead at 12fps
clearly the "experts" doesn't what they're talking about
or they're just desperate to worship the latest goyslop lest they been seen as biggoted maga chuds
The soundtrack to this movie was just as KINO as the animation.
Lord and Miller are complete cock sucking homosexuals in a literal sense
The writing is like a 16 year old girl whos drank 5 espressos.
Pathetic.
These homosexuals should be removed from the industry
This has to be done on purpose to make zoomers and young children even more mentally ill
Disgusting
It helped that its competition is worse.
I'm not watching this bilge but what else can I watch - "The Boogeyman"? Or maybe The Little Merkween Yas.
Ah well, back to Cinemaphile I guess, I still need to get through the first Everspace
Having watched this, I'd seriously rather have downloaded a Little Mermaid and sheet camrip instead, at least it'd be funny bad instead of just bad.
Are we hitting The Last Jedi levels of cope yet? It feels like we're getting close to 2017 levels of utter insane cope.
>pretending miles is the reason spider-verse movies are popular
lmao
Makes more sense than saying that people watched the Mario movie because of Pratt.
Miles is the Sam Witwicky of Spider-Verse lmao
>TLJ
Nigga i'm pretty sure chuds were right about that one. Monumental drop in the box office and star wars is pretty much dead in theaters. This one is way more universally loved by normies. The third one may even crack a billion
If this one can't crack a billie, i doubt the next one will.
It's funny seeing people with no credentials argue against people with education and experience. No one should take a word they say seriously. They are simply wrong.
>you can't criticize something unless you pursued an education in that field
The cope for this movie is getting ridiculous
>Those retarded fuckers are building spaceships all wrong!
Nice false equivalence, but film criticism isn't rocket science
Don't forget to take your weekly booster.
Still waiting for side effects, two more years am i right
That's right, nothing will happen to you, keep at it.
>what about.... PEANUTS
Wow these look identical
Wow these
look completely different
>It looks similar if you change the 3d animation to a mixture of 2d and 3d, change color gradings and add specific filters used in the film
Stealth spiderverse praise
>a mixture of 2d and 3d, change color gradings and add specific filters
Wow you genuinely have no fucking clue about animation or even visuals in general
>Arguments get posted
>Umm wow you're like wrong, i won't specify why you are wrong and won't provide "correct" arguments either because my narrative will fall flat
Lmao. You have no idea what you are talking about btw
>arguments get posted
>arguments are laughably and self-evidently wrong
There's nothing 2D about that image and chromatic aberration is not color grading, that leaves only filters which is not an impressive artistic achievement in any way and actually look quite ugly
Wow you have no idea what you are talking about lol
Blown the fuck out
I feel like i liked the first one more tbh. This one felt too much like a "part 1" movie and the spider people in the first one were better, gwen,noir,peni,peter b>
sir, cringe anarchist spider, black pregnant woman spider. The only standout here was 2099.
Did Cinemaphile get this upset about Black Panther going over a billie?
yes.
Too bad I didn't browse this board back then, this would have been so glorious holy shit.
That's another conservative movie.
http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/
>atsv did better than mario in china
>ghibli movie from 1989 made almost half of what atsv did
china is weird
http://english.entgroup.cn/680396/boxoffice/
first one did better in china than the sequel according to this
itsv = $47.8m after 10 screening days
atsv = $37.89m after 12 screening days
that can't be right can it?
China still hack lockdowns, its why all these releases are struggling.
also, /d/ickgirls are a long standing tradition
not even into it and I will gladly contribute
WAIT ARE YOU TELLING ME THE ANIMATION STYLE ALL THESE homosexualS SAID SPIDERVERSE INVENTED WAS IN FACT INVENTED BY A CHARLIE BROWN MOVIE, THE ONE CARTOON ALL THESE homosexualS HATE FOR BEING THE WHITEST SHIT EVER... LMAO
>seathes so hard he's literally screaming in caps
Literally no competition
Won because everyone else is a fucking failure
Victory by default
this fella looks cool, do they get rid of his fangs?
I liked spider byte
Sodomites stole the rainbow and pastel colors and turned them upside down
Gwen was cute
is not only the pastel colors, she has a literal tranny flag with "protect trans children" in her room
>if i'll keep telling him he's wrong that'll convince him!
Fucking LOL! Imagine malding over the most important animation of the decade (so far (because verse 3 isn't out yet)) so hard
See you all at 500 million! Stay seethin'!
>Directed by
>Joaquim Dos Santos
>Kemp Powers
>Justin K. Thompson
>Written by
>Phil Lord
>Christopher Miller
>Dave Callaham
why does a cartoon need 3 directors and 3 writers?