This is a masterpiece and I’m tired of people acting like it isn’t
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This is a masterpiece and I’m tired of people acting like it isn’t
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Not a masterpiece like LotRs but it is quality kino that deserves more respect than it got.
It's everything wrong with Peter Jackson given free reign since he was fresh off LOTR.
>flat acting with terrible actor decisions
>overreliance on CGI to create insane scenarios
>inability to cut out plot irrelevant scenes and padding
>utterly bombastic and over the top compared to the original work
I still like it, but everything wrong eith the Hobbit is present here.
Wrong!
i agree, you can see jackson leaning into all his hackier tendencies, but it's STILL got a bunch of legitimately great scenes
It’s so hacky and terribly shot. https://youtu.be/Mo0TilV02As
Can almost taste the CGI.
Agree.
The tie-in game was a masterpiece if anything else.
men of taste and culture
Played all the time on my PSP
The shit with the centipedes in the walls still sticks with me after so long.
It was legitimately the most boring game I have ever played. I stated seeing praise for it on the internet about 10 years ago and I’ve never failed to be baffled about why people seem to like it so much.
Always gotta one homosexual
I too love this version of King Kong the most. And goddamn, when they fall into that valley with all the creepy crawlies, that shit was traumatizing
>And goddamn, when they fall into that valley with all the creepy crawlies, that shit was traumatizing
The shit that had me was Kong ripping the TRex jaws apart. THAT was some shit.
i loved this scene as well, probably my favorite part in the movie. the lack of music and just the noise of them struggling against the insect beasts was so unsettling and beautiful, the submachine gun SFX was excellent, the brutal deaths. definitely the most memorable scene in the movie
Traumatized for life. Everytime I see the thing coming out like a dick makes me wanna puke
Better monster movie than the dogshit we’ve been getting for the past 10 years.
Monkeys aren't monsters you RACIST, you RACIST calling black people monkeymonsters you're RACIST
No, it was made in the dark ages of the genre. Or should I say a near total drought. We're in a much better place now.
Frick no, nowadays monster movies are trash compared to back then.
> it was made in the dark ages of the genre
The Mist
The Host
Cloverfield
Avatar
Slither
The Cave
Dog Soldiers
The Mummy
Pan’s Labyrinth
The Decent
Silent Hill
Of monster movies. The 00s weren't too kind to it, the movies we got weren't very successful and Jackson's King Kong was the exception although today it's not very popular. It's underappreciated. Today the genre is at last in great shape again.
The Host was very popular for a hot minute but now it disappear from the discussion. It's like the period between 2004-2013 has been memory holed.
Monster movies nowadays are woke as frick, look at Prey. We are in post-glory days of monster movies.
I wasn't even thinking about that because I had giant sized in mind. For some reason that one is sometimes considered its own separate genre because of the number of films and their variety. But if we include non-giant monster movies that still makes sense. The 00s were awful for them, Alien and Predator were degraded into something like generic teen horror.
Holy shit you’re a moron.
> For some reason that one is sometimes considered its own separate genre because of the number of films and their variety.
By who? First time I ever heard about this.
I think we are currently in the dark ages of the genre. Everything has to be a cinematic universe not a standalone story like back then.
Avatar was the top movie of all time back in the 00s and it was a glorified high budget monster movie epic. Much of the creature design from Avatar is still being influenced today. Avatar popularized the bioluminescent creature trope that’s been done to death by now. You who no idea what you’re talking about.
What's Avatar?
Watching this opening night. Just for the monsters.
> Avatar popularised.
Oh no James Cameron made another alien film with bad boy marines and misunderstood critters how original!
I like going back to it. Even the extended version. But I have to admit that the complaints are justified. I don't care about them and I like how long this movie is but the criticism has merit. The original is better thanks to its pacing but I'd say it's still only a masterpiece by the virtue of being so important to the genre. It's 9/10 movie thanks to Bruce Cabot.
It was the last great adventure movie
This. When will we ever get another 4 hour monster movie?
Actual masterpieces of the genre are usually between 90 and 100 minutes long and they don't have to be longer. I like this movie and I watch the extended version and I like how long it is but at the same time I agree it didn't have to be this long or introduce subplots for bit characters that didn't go anywhere.
>save me, Spinosaurus!
Kong's cinematic history is almost entirely just endless repeat of the same story. And here we have the part where he kills creatures more interesting than him.
I like dinosaurs too, but they definitely have less to them than Kong. There's a reason he keeps getting movies. He's fairly intelligent and has emotions. Trex has pretty much run through everything it can do, and they just keep introducing bigger and meaner versions to kill it off.
In the original at least Kong is a part of a larger story. If his role was played by any other type of creature I wouldn't find him any less sympathetic. The Jackson version really showed him as more of a character than the 33 version.
It was this fricking scene for me. I'm terrified of underwater monsters as it is, but this was just anxiety inducing
The monsters are the best part of the movie. Other than that it's just okay. This deleted scene should have been in the movie but I think they dropped it because it would have gotten them an R rating.
It's in the extended cut. I always watch this one. It adds more action on Skull Island and a few scenes in New York so even for those who complain about the pacing issues and length of the movie won't find anything to really complain about.
Me and my Dad loved it.
My Dad and I* I meant
Too long
Shut up adhd phone watcher. Men are talking.
>jack black
What were they thinking
He was good tho
Characters in the 1933 Kong are kind of bad but Denham was the exception and he was developed further in the sequel. Jackson's Kong had no sequel so Denham faces no consequences or we just don't see them but he's different than the one from 1933 who was an arrogant adventurer. Cooper's alter ego. Jack Black was just a dick and a coward.
Skull Island did it better and I double fricking dare you to convince me otherwise.
That movie looked like someone peed on the lens. Everything has this shitty instagram yellow color grading.
Post examples.
The editing in skull island is shit tier.
Yeah no you're fricking with me. That or you're being ironic.
That looked like dogshit compared to this
> Again the bug pit scene.
Take off your nostalgia goggles son.
The TV series might actually be hidden gems from what I can tell. Highly serialised of course and very much the monster of the week affairs.
The shitty pee colored graveyard scene was obviously Skull Island’s Bug Pit attempt.
I see you're unable to take the two films as separate entities anon. Reminder that the entire thing is CGI and involves four actors. Shit's Jack's best role since the Jackal and Billy fricking Elliot over there is shooting bugs off the other guys back with his fricking eyes closed.
We’re comparing movies. We compared the shitty pee colored skullcrawler graveyard scene, and the Bug Pit scene.
Comparing, but one of us is failing to take each film into individual circumstantial context. You sound somewhat autist anon.
> take each film into individual circumstantial context
Why?
Because if you don't then everything is just a shallow copy of ancient Greek tragedy.
Oh and I’m the autist.
I didn't say it was a bad thing, anon.
Me either.
Which Ancient Greek tragedy had a giant gorilla fighting 3 trexes?
Probably something to do with Hercules. Dude fought a lot of things and was immortalised in song and theatre because of it.
Hercules isn’t giant or a monster. King Kong is a giant monster that fights other monsters. So which geek tragedy then?
The tragedy of hercules written by Euripides involves the gods (outsiders) sending him crazy (king Kong's rage), killing his Human family and then dying to poison (bullets).
Took two seconds in Google anon.
Hercules is a human//god hero. King Kong isn’t. He’s a beast, monster, king Kong isn’t a hero. That’s all the new movies with capeshit King Kong.
The ancient Greek heroes were quite monstrous anon. It's hard to understate the raw power of strength that Hercules had until you consider this here was a man perfectly capable of ripping another man apart with his bare hands, and did so.
Ok, and King Kong is a creature, not an Ancient Greek hero. He’s probably what the Ancient Greek heroes killed.
You are aware that the entire reason we have monster movies is because of the ancients coming up with fantastical and wondrously terrifying god-like monsters before Christian puritanism fricked everything up right?
Prove it b***h.
2 seconds in Google, doublec**t. Pay particular attention to censorship of art. https://www.britannica.com/topic/censorship/Medieval-Christendom
King Kong isn’t a fantastical and wondrously terrifying god-like monster.
Not in Jackson's movie he isn't.
Or in the original
Pretty sure if they could have used our modern film tech then he would have been.
???
He was a god like creature to the stupid black savages. Not to civilized man.
You asked me to show you the pee colored instagram filter on Skull island and I showed it to you. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=auafv2YsNR4
You showed me a scene where the filter was deliberately used as part of the set. You cannot be serious unless you are a massive moron.
> using instagram filters at all
Why pee colored though? It’s so distracting.
Idk ask the wachowski bros when they made the matrix.
too creepy
Skull Island was beautifully shot but had no dinosaurs. I've gotten over that, although I'm bored to death of that Kong because they suck his dick too hard recently. But I'm glad it's not another remake. Kong lost its status as a monster because it never became a franchise and just a collection of remakes. And Merian C. Cooper wanted it to be a franchise, he had lots of ideas. But he was exactly 20 years ahead of his time and RKO only let him make a cheapquel (that's still pretty decent).
Having the sheer fricking hubris to make an original content in the film industry rather than shamelessly ripping off someone else's work and doing it well should give it a mandatory 4 stars on anyone's rating.
Honestly I think back to Jackson's version and I cringe. The videogame was okay though.
Jackson did exactly what you just described moron
Go frick yourself you turbohomosexual.
The best part of Kong was the theme that 'Beauty killed the Beast'. It's a complete story with Kong dying at the end. He's not meant to be Godzilla, appearing eternally in ten thousand random movies and each time returning to the jungle until he's needed to find another monster
Not every character is flexible enough to keep a stable franchise with regular movies. But King Kong was supposed to be one. Cooper had his idea, O'Brien had his. Nothing came out of it because the original was too big, RKO got scared. Everybody kept making cheaper gothic horror movies instead.
8 films and 2 TV series just saying.
If we count Son of Kong, because it's so strongly tied to the first movie, that's 9 movies. Half of which are in some way remakes of the 1933 movie, at least in some elements. King Kong Lives is maybe the most original and also by far the worst.
I remember even as a little kid I found that line so incredibly cringe. “I guess, in the end, beauty really did kill the beast.” BRAVO JACKSON. INCREDIBLE WRITING BRO
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>1933
> Shamelessly referencing an earlier film.
Disrespectful.
Recreating a terrible line doesn’t make it any less terrible.
It's a remake of the story kek. It's the entire damn point of the original Kong story. Kong will kill any and everything, but when he sees the pretty girl, it tames him, and he'll do everything to protect her. Even when it gets him subdued, when he wouldn't have gotten captured otherwise, then brought to the mainland, he breaks free and tries to go defensive with her on top of the tallest building. But he can no longer hide and he dies.
I like skull island, but the peter jackson kong's soundtrack fricking shits all over it
Jacksons version of Skull Island was much cooler
This. Jackson's skull Island actually seems like a real uncharted ancient place, with its own primeval history and ecology. The world building was excellent. Skull Island in the new one looks like yellow filter Vietnam with some CGI lizards walking around.
You're not wrong
how come none of the Skull Island creatures ever escaped?
you just know
That's racist
This is an incredibly underserved masturbation session.
It was such a horrible film. The first time I’ve been bored in a cinema. Cut the running time by a third and you might have a good movie. As it stands it’s an self-indulgent mess that overstays its welcome.
>2005
It's Jackson going full fanboy with his favorite childhood movie and I love it for that, the sheer passion that he had for King Kong and his world just captivated me and made me a fan when I saw it as a kid. The video game also played a huge part I loved it.
Even the false documentary about Skull Island from the DVD showed how much he cared about it.
Holt shit I had no idea this existed thanks anon!
When I heard they were making a skull island movie, I was expecting 2 hours of this. Not the boring bullshit we got instead.
> ancient civilization that lived with monsters
Crazy how much the new godzilla movies ripped off Peter Jackson.
i aught to watch this again. i loved it when i was a kid and it first came out, haven't seen it since i was a teenager though. the natives were truly terrifying and disturbing in this. i hate watching the ending though
Ausgay? They had it on TV yesterday.