The real star wars fans are OT and Prequels, 2D Clone Wars, and Andor. (Some older games too). People who grew up with 3D clone wars are NOT star wars fans.
The OT without the Prequels would be a tired joke. Vader without Anakin would be unappealing for anyone not wearing nostalgia goggles. The Prequels made Star Wars, elevated it.
People who are mashing together everything that belongs in the same universe are terminally ill. You are basically arguing that people who like Terminator 1-2 should have no issue with Terminator 3 and later, you retard
3 months ago
Anonymous
No, you're doing the mashing together here. The OT is no less goofy than the Prequels and has its own fair share of dated VFX. Both are Lucas' work. Terminator is a whole different deal, with 1-2 being Cameron, but the rest not.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The goofiest part of the OT which is the Ewoks and Endor ground battle are basically the whole of prequels 1 and 2. If you want to dismiss the Terminator analogy based on semantics, you can try Indy 4, John Wick 2+ and host of other franchises. By the way, the OT and the PT didn't all have the same director throughout either, so what kind of point are you even trying to make?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I see, I'm talking to a midwit here. Lucas' vision, not role of director in every single production. Not that hard to understand, yes? And, no, the Ewoks are nothing compared to Luke, Leia and Han, which are all ridiculous characters. Also, funny how you got filtered by John Wick 2, the best of the bunch.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>muh lucas' vision
What does it matter if it's the same person's "overall" vision, when it's other people doing the actual directing for 2/3 OT movies and the "vision" and Lucas himself are 25 years apart in the two trilogies? >filtered by John Wick
See anon, personally I like all 4 in varying degrees and also think 2 is the best, but I'm not that much of an autist to not recognize a big shift in tone from the first movie to the rest and how that could mean that OTHER people can like only the first and be put off by 2/3/4.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>What does it matter if it's the same person's "overall" vision, when it's other people doing the actual directing for 2/3 OT movies and the "vision" and Lucas himself are 25 years apart in the two trilogies?
Because it's still his vision.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Noone's arguing that PT is "not what Lucas wanted it to be" or "not real Star Wars". Just that 25 years later, Lucas' vision of Star Wars had changed enough so that people who like the OT don't necessarily have to like the PT. I really don't get why that's so hard to understand.
3 months ago
Anonymous
And as for John Wick, Stahelski started doing them alone after the first one, withou Leitch.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Lucas was notorious for having ridiculous ideas that needed to be reined in by saner people. How retarded does one have to be to not realize that having others do the directing for ESB and ROTJ had an effect on how the movies turned out, compared to the prequels where not only Lucas had absolute control down to the most miniscule detail but also that by that time he was so legendary that noone would even think of challenging even the most stupid of his propositions.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's another tired meme. Lucas saved Return from Kasdan turning it into edgy nonsense.
I watched both the OT and PT in my mid to late teens for the first time. OT balances between ridiculous and serious, while PT balances between ridiculous and hilarious attempts at seriousness. They are intended for the same audience more or less, but they are definitely not the same exact movie formula.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>they are definitely not the same exact movie formula
No, you can tell one was made by an old man and the other by a young one. > hilarious attempts at seriousness
Overly reductive nonsense.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Whatever can't get through my thick skull must be reductive nonsense
Every scene with palpatine in the PT has become a meme for a reason, anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, because they are good memorable scenes and Ian McDiarmid is a great actor.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Script and acting wise the OT differs very little from adventure movies from the golden age of cinema which is a format that had been entertaining audiences for decades. The contrast between that old timey straight forwardness to the huge and crazy sci fi setting is, to me, what gave it it's charm and is something that has been missing from every attempt to bring star wars to the screen since.
That's the standard opinion among non-retards. Jedi is notoriously bad because Lucas came back and turned it into an unfocused clusterfuck while also undermining it with the retarded Ewok shit nobody liked, fucks it up tonally.
Jedi is universally regarded as the weakest of the original trilogy, Empire as the best, the first movie as a miracle that is actually good because of Lucas' ex wife or whatever, she edited Lucas' diarrhea into a passable film.
Anyone talking about these popcorn movies more seriously than "lol fun 70s/80s movie" is a midwit anyway. "Following" a "franchise" makes you the biggest fucking homosexual in the universe.
3 months ago
Anonymous
No, it's not. If you think Lucas didn't have deeper thoughts than that, you're retarded.
You could have had an adult movie where a species of primitive humanoid aliens exploited by the Empire join up with the Rebels on Endor and wage a brutal guerilla conflict to take out the shields and overthrow the Empire's hold on the moon. Instead you got teddy bears that completely undermine any threat the Empire's forces could potentially have.
Ah, yes, an adult movie.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I have no interest in watching teddy bears defeat a supposedly galaxy conquering empire using sticks and stones. Star Wars is for babies, and it's okay if you like it, just don't expect me to give a fuck about your brand.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>unironically posting this on an anime imageboard created by a 14 year old
the only person you're fooling here is yourself
Your glorified Flash Gordan serials aren't "high culture" in the slightest, quite the opposite in fact.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You wouldn't know anything about it. You're illiterate.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Come again?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Proving my point there, you absolute midwit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>"you're illiterate" >run post through grammar checker out of curiosity >it's flawless >post result >"You're proving my point"
Are you even capable of forming a coherent response or is it all buzzwords and indirect insults?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Leave me alone. Keep watching your silly little video essays like good cattle.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Your three responses to me have been indistinguishable to that of a bot. You should work on that, it makes you seem like a simpleton.
3 months ago
Anonymous
unironically no u
but your not a bot your cattle
3 months ago
Anonymous
>meme response >buzzword response
I'm starting to understand why you're a Star Wars fan and I'm not...
3 months ago
Anonymous
You aren't because you are a boring person eating up IMDB top 250 slop.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>stah wahs fan can only process enjoyment of films outside his franchise brand series within the realms of the IMDB top 250 >he thinks films within the IMDB top 250 are inherently bad
Pathetic, really.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Go watch some PTA, Coen Brothers, Kubrick slop, you halfwit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Those are some fantastic directors, but I'm actually about to watch Above the Law. Stay mad.
3 months ago
Anonymous
BORING
3 months ago
Anonymous
nta but you sound like the boring one anon, its ok to like things, you need to get that stick out of your ass
You could have had an adult movie where a species of primitive humanoid aliens exploited by the Empire join up with the Rebels on Endor and wage a brutal guerilla conflict to take out the shields and overthrow the Empire's hold on the moon. Instead you got teddy bears that completely undermine any threat the Empire's forces could potentially have.
That's the standard opinion among non-retards. Jedi is notoriously bad because Lucas came back and turned it into an unfocused clusterfuck while also undermining it with the retarded Ewok shit nobody liked, fucks it up tonally.
Jedi is universally regarded as the weakest of the original trilogy, Empire as the best, the first movie as a miracle that is actually good because of Lucas' ex wife or whatever, she edited Lucas' diarrhea into a passable film.
Return of the Jedi is absolutely based because it's fucking retarded and weird and comedic.
Star Wars isn't supposed to be some serious political espionage it's supposed to be shit where droids curse people out in beep boop talk and little blue elephant dudes play the space-piano.
I had no idea that return of the jedi had horrendously bad and overused cgi that made everything look fake as fuck, nice opinion you got there. RotJ has its issues but the intro, the final space battle and the whole palpatine's throne room sequence shit on everything the prequels have to offer. Not to mention it has withstood the test of time pretty gracefully, while the prequels (especially the first two) would be unwatchable based on cgi and visuals alone even if they were otherwise masterpieces.
this. star wars peaked with the rotj finale and it should have ended there. you could have had unrelated adventures in the setting like mando once promised to be but instead all we got was slop
The problem with Star Wars is that George didn't send an extermination squad to every Gen-X household shortly after releasing the prequels. They literally caused the sequels.
homosexual boomer detected
Georgie created the prequels so they are as much star wars as everything else, and your gay little opinion will never change that
I agree. Whoring Star Wars out to the mouse and Kathleen was his choice and part of his flawless vision for Star Wars as well, so that goes for the sequel trilogy too, I might add.
I think you're giving them way more credit than they deserve, calling them either professional or writers
I, for one, welcome their AI replacements. They can't be worse at the job, at least
It's like Disney took all the worst conclusions from The Last Jedi and now everything feels like it was written by r/starwars. I can't imagine any normal human being watching and enjoying the new Ahsoka show, they'd be incredibly confused.
kotor could easily be adapted for a tv series. 10 episode game of thrones style set in old republic would be very easy to do. the problem is they are intentionally destroying these franchises. there is no other possible explanation. incompetence only goes so far. decades of hate and deliberate propaganda prove they want to do this. they want to destroy the franchise and hollywood is doing it to every thing that people hold dear or loved until nothing remains and the well so poisoned you will never again associate them with good. they can then rebuild when all the white people are murdered with a new religion and new history and new idols for the mud people to believe in.
Look up what these striking writers guild homosexuals are making, hundreds of thousands and that's just for TV not movies, and that's per season not per year.
so anakin instructed that dumb bitch to hold the lightsaber upside down from the beginning? no wonder her training isnt complete. its like fucking kung pow. they trained her wrong as a joke.
The sequels proved they can't make their own material so they may as well focus on nostalgia bait and fanwank if they're not going to sell the franchise.
Bro this coreography is so fucking dogshit. Anakin had the best fighting style in the entire canon (disney shit doesn't count), and then they produce this slow, rythmless fucking slop
Fuck yidsney
3 months ago
Anonymous
terrible. the dude looks slow af and not menacing at all. dawson looks annoying as usual and cant pull off being a badass fighter
[...]
The fights have been so bad so far but Hayden can actually do a good fight, maybe he hasnt forgotten all the choreography from Ep III
>maybe he hasnt forgotten all the choreography from Ep III
If he's able to do a good fight scene then that means he has.
I love how all these nobodies know all about choreography. It looks fine to me, you fucking LARPers.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I love how all these nobodies know all about choreography.
by having watched a fuckton of movies with better fights
What would impress you? I've noticed most of you don't have any standards bound in reality. It's usually your manchild minds fantasizing about how the world (or a piece of fiction) should be but rarely considering the real circumstances of how things get made and what has been achieved before. It's quite goofy.
Badly paced, brown people slice of life show with terribly bland non-Star Wars designs and socialist politics. Yes, it was bad.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Look, being totally honest with you i don't remember the plot, but i remember liking it, still i never thought of it as one of my favourites, so it probably wasn't out of this world.
Star Wars is for children. The original Star Wars movies were mildly entertaining blockbusters and only became a big sensation because they helped establish a genre of less "conceptual" and more universally accessible science fantasy. A lot of kids at the time became nostalgic for them in the same way their dads were nostalgic for Clint Eastwood or John Wayne westerns. "Franchises" are an evil concept. "Universes" are an evil concept. We are caught in an endless cultural loop like a bad dream that never ends. We need to wake up from this.
Eh. Not really. Very reductionary way of looking at things. Problem is that people treat them religiously. Wouldn't be a problem if they went to Church on Sunday and then watched some Star Wars in the afternoon.
The movie star wars was a huge hit because in several ways 'it was like nothing anyone had ever seen'. The franchise star wars is 'i want to see what i saw before so i feel good like i did in that time'. You can replace star wars with any franchise. Franchises are for homosexuals
The problem with Star Wars are the onions manchildren valuing the aesthetics and continuity of a story taking place in the Star Wars universe over a good story or characters. There is a reason why the Nobility absolutely despised Penny Dreadfuls, which was literature for the masses, creating the first franchises. It‘s plebeian as fuck. The authors would just write very similar detective, horror, fantasy stories over and over again with the same characters doing the same stuff over and over again.
>valuing the aesthetics and continuity of a story
Nothing wrong with that. >over a good story or characters
People want spectacle, fantastic visuals, and Star Wars has that frequently.
Some questions to the people who like Star War:
What made you like Star Wars? You grew up watching the movies, right? Do you have another movie, show or book you consider better than Star Wars?
I'm curious because I watched some SW movies when I was a kid, but it wasn't my thing.
>What made you like Star Wars? You grew up watching the movies, right?
Yes, but I rewatched them recently (Prequels) and like them more than ever. I like the characterisations, the overall ambition as a space opera, the fantastic music, and most of the design work. Also, them being full of good looking people of course. >Do you have another movie, show or book you consider better than Star Wars?
Naturally, lol.
Show me a single other movie series that goes from showing the protagonist as an innocent child, to detailing his fall into darkness to eventually celebrating his redemption.
Honestly? Probably the video games.
If the games didn't exist (dark forces/jedi outcast, battlefront, republic commando, kotor) I would not have given the slightest fuck about SW.
I like ANH and ESB, I like the throne room stuff in ROTJ but the rest of the films I cannot stand.
Star Wars is like Taco Bell, it's the same damn ingredient rearranged into new products and I have no idea how people watch it if you don't have some form of autism.
Jedi, Sith, Force, Light Sabers, Blasters, Clones/storm troopers
Star Wars is a very simple story and they managed to spread it so thin
Star Wars isn't an adventure.
In spite of being set in space, it's a very very small universe.
Everything in the universe is either tangentially or directly related to the Jedi or the Sith. Every villain is a sith or someone working for a Sith. Every hero uses a lightsaber and the force.
Compare this to say, Star Trek. The federation are the main characters,. but there's always a wide variety of races and cultures that act independently of each other. Every villain isn't a fucking Borg or working for the Borg. Every hero isn't in the Federation.
it's literally an adventure
sword fighting, swashbuckling, daring do, visiting interesting places
fuck, that's basically a Douglas Fairbanks movie with a coat of sci fi and fantasy paint
It's a small adventure that works for 3 movies,
It's not a big enough adventure with a variety of themes and elements to be spread over 12 fucking movies, 4 future movies, and 15 mainline TV shows that by and large regurgitate the same story, set in the same world, with the same hero, with the same antagonist
it's literally an adventure
sword fighting, swashbuckling, daring do, visiting interesting places
fuck, that's basically a Douglas Fairbanks movie with a coat of sci fi and fantasy paint
it's hilarious that star wars is supposedly this vast universe of endless possibilities and the only thing star wars writers can come up with as a plot is "rebels vs the empire"
Lucas handed them an original plot on a golden platter and Disney threw that out to give the fans member berries
because that's what the fans wanted, clearly, because they hated a different style of story in the prequels
but apparently they hated the member berries, too
>LA FAN MEET UP
These guys live in a bubble or something. Nobody wants to deal with Los Angeles traffic or the scores of tweakers camping in the streets.
>dont forget the nagger flash mobs
oh yeah, I saw that on the chud news a bunch of times. Which means in reality it happens like a few times a year. Its a real problem!!!!
Three pretty good movies from 39-45 years ago has led to this current religion of consuming. It still astounds me how the original trilogy has carried this franchise on its back over the decades, when literally nothing else since has been good. Fans should've let it fizzle out already. Now the thing you loved sucks
The mentally ill tranny fans are the problem. People who like Star Wars are sub-human trash.
The original trilogy wasn't that bad but it wasn't good. It was a simple story and some cool visuals. Star Wars was good tech demo. There was nothing special about Star Wars, it was stupid shit for retards.
But the retards liked it so much they made prequals, and then they made 20 more Star Wars movies and 100 different cartoon Star Wars shows. And the fans ate it up.
Now 40 years later they try to shovel this slop down everyone's throat, and they have infinite money because some trash they made today has the name ''Star Wars'' slapped on it. That's all it ever is. Just make trash, call it star wars and go ''remember the lightsabers??? remember this guy???? Ummm Luke mother fucking Skywalker???''
Nothing but referencing the original trilogy, the only 3 passable movies.
The problem is that you keep giving them money. Not just for the current Star Wars trash but for the soulless capeshit that preceded it and gave us this generation of boring, sanitized, cookie cutter corporate homosexualry.
I'm going to go back to forgetting that Disney Star Wars exists, maybe play Jedi Academy and read the Thrawn Trilogy.
The problem with star wars is the fan base is so completely mind fucked and brain dead they can't even see what is in front of their face.
An example, the most recent and infamous appearance of Hayden Christensen in Ahsoka.
I see so many of these dipshits pontificating about every fucking wild theory that pops into their head as they descend to the level of the minutiae that would make the biggest schitzo on /x/ say look bro you need to take a break.
Everything in Ahsoka so far has been Filoni written, plain as day, simple to digest, but these morons are so mystified looking for hidden meanings and easter eggs that they can't see the forest for the trees.
>meanwhile rogue one and andor are pure kino, because its about adult themes, with adults settings with adult situations >its almost as if the flying, mindcontrolling, laser swords and idiotic skywalker saga are what attracts children
Right? About what? What are you talking about? Did I miss your argument somewhere between the autistic screeching and the poor attempt and single word trolling?
Nah, the sequels just suck. Adults can still watch and enjoy the original trilogy and even most of the games. If something was genuinely good it stays so. I still love watching old cartoons, stuff like Swat Kats and the Galaxy Rangers, I've got hundreds of those series on my plex server, though more likely I have them on in the background.
Remind me again why Lucas fanboys don't blame their beloved leader for being a sellout? He could have just, you know, not been a greedy asshole and we wouldn't have to deal with DisneyWars in current year
>Remind me again why Lucas fanboys don't blame their beloved leader for being a sellout?
Because if they liked the garbage being churned out in the later years of Lucas owning the franchise they probably enjoy the garbage being churned out now?
imagine running the biggest movie franchise of all time so hard into the ground the only thing left is some dudes cartoon waifu and nostalgiabaiting for a mid kids TV show
The problem with Star Wars is that it didn't end with the first trilogy.
You're the most pathetic kind of loser.
Shut your FUCKING mouth chud!
Fpbp, prequel is trash.
*sequels
Both can be true.
>The problem with Star Wars is that it didn't end with the first movie.
fixed
The real star wars fans are OT and Prequels, 2D Clone Wars, and Andor. (Some older games too). People who grew up with 3D clone wars are NOT star wars fans.
and lucas had to retroactively shit up the original trilogy out of retardation and or spite lol
The OT without the Prequels would be a tired joke. Vader without Anakin would be unappealing for anyone not wearing nostalgia goggles. The Prequels made Star Wars, elevated it.
W-Watch the RLM reviews a-and you'll understand h-how wrong you are
Noone said Vader's origin or the Clone Wars era shouldn't have been explored, you twat. The execution was the problem, not the attempt.
>The execution was the problem, not the attempt.
Tired meme. If you like the OT but not the PT, you're mentally ill.
People who are mashing together everything that belongs in the same universe are terminally ill. You are basically arguing that people who like Terminator 1-2 should have no issue with Terminator 3 and later, you retard
No, you're doing the mashing together here. The OT is no less goofy than the Prequels and has its own fair share of dated VFX. Both are Lucas' work. Terminator is a whole different deal, with 1-2 being Cameron, but the rest not.
The goofiest part of the OT which is the Ewoks and Endor ground battle are basically the whole of prequels 1 and 2. If you want to dismiss the Terminator analogy based on semantics, you can try Indy 4, John Wick 2+ and host of other franchises. By the way, the OT and the PT didn't all have the same director throughout either, so what kind of point are you even trying to make?
I see, I'm talking to a midwit here. Lucas' vision, not role of director in every single production. Not that hard to understand, yes? And, no, the Ewoks are nothing compared to Luke, Leia and Han, which are all ridiculous characters. Also, funny how you got filtered by John Wick 2, the best of the bunch.
>muh lucas' vision
What does it matter if it's the same person's "overall" vision, when it's other people doing the actual directing for 2/3 OT movies and the "vision" and Lucas himself are 25 years apart in the two trilogies?
>filtered by John Wick
See anon, personally I like all 4 in varying degrees and also think 2 is the best, but I'm not that much of an autist to not recognize a big shift in tone from the first movie to the rest and how that could mean that OTHER people can like only the first and be put off by 2/3/4.
>What does it matter if it's the same person's "overall" vision, when it's other people doing the actual directing for 2/3 OT movies and the "vision" and Lucas himself are 25 years apart in the two trilogies?
Because it's still his vision.
Noone's arguing that PT is "not what Lucas wanted it to be" or "not real Star Wars". Just that 25 years later, Lucas' vision of Star Wars had changed enough so that people who like the OT don't necessarily have to like the PT. I really don't get why that's so hard to understand.
And as for John Wick, Stahelski started doing them alone after the first one, withou Leitch.
Lucas was notorious for having ridiculous ideas that needed to be reined in by saner people. How retarded does one have to be to not realize that having others do the directing for ESB and ROTJ had an effect on how the movies turned out, compared to the prequels where not only Lucas had absolute control down to the most miniscule detail but also that by that time he was so legendary that noone would even think of challenging even the most stupid of his propositions.
That's another tired meme. Lucas saved Return from Kasdan turning it into edgy nonsense.
I watched both the OT and PT in my mid to late teens for the first time. OT balances between ridiculous and serious, while PT balances between ridiculous and hilarious attempts at seriousness. They are intended for the same audience more or less, but they are definitely not the same exact movie formula.
>they are definitely not the same exact movie formula
No, you can tell one was made by an old man and the other by a young one.
> hilarious attempts at seriousness
Overly reductive nonsense.
>Whatever can't get through my thick skull must be reductive nonsense
Every scene with palpatine in the PT has become a meme for a reason, anon
Yes, because they are good memorable scenes and Ian McDiarmid is a great actor.
Script and acting wise the OT differs very little from adventure movies from the golden age of cinema which is a format that had been entertaining audiences for decades. The contrast between that old timey straight forwardness to the huge and crazy sci fi setting is, to me, what gave it it's charm and is something that has been missing from every attempt to bring star wars to the screen since.
100% correct opinion. Anything and everything after 1983 is fanfiction and Return of the Jedi is barely passable.
Most retarded attempt at elitism I've ever seen.
That's the standard opinion among non-retards. Jedi is notoriously bad because Lucas came back and turned it into an unfocused clusterfuck while also undermining it with the retarded Ewok shit nobody liked, fucks it up tonally.
Jedi is universally regarded as the weakest of the original trilogy, Empire as the best, the first movie as a miracle that is actually good because of Lucas' ex wife or whatever, she edited Lucas' diarrhea into a passable film.
No, it's literally just uncultured loser midwits.
Anyone talking about these popcorn movies more seriously than "lol fun 70s/80s movie" is a midwit anyway. "Following" a "franchise" makes you the biggest fucking homosexual in the universe.
No, it's not. If you think Lucas didn't have deeper thoughts than that, you're retarded.
Ah, yes, an adult movie.
I have no interest in watching teddy bears defeat a supposedly galaxy conquering empire using sticks and stones. Star Wars is for babies, and it's okay if you like it, just don't expect me to give a fuck about your brand.
>unironically posting this on an anime imageboard created by a 14 year old
the only person you're fooling here is yourself
Your glorified Flash Gordan serials aren't "high culture" in the slightest, quite the opposite in fact.
You wouldn't know anything about it. You're illiterate.
Come again?
Proving my point there, you absolute midwit.
>"you're illiterate"
>run post through grammar checker out of curiosity
>it's flawless
>post result
>"You're proving my point"
Are you even capable of forming a coherent response or is it all buzzwords and indirect insults?
Leave me alone. Keep watching your silly little video essays like good cattle.
Your three responses to me have been indistinguishable to that of a bot. You should work on that, it makes you seem like a simpleton.
unironically no u
but your not a bot your cattle
>meme response
>buzzword response
I'm starting to understand why you're a Star Wars fan and I'm not...
You aren't because you are a boring person eating up IMDB top 250 slop.
>stah wahs fan can only process enjoyment of films outside his franchise brand series within the realms of the IMDB top 250
>he thinks films within the IMDB top 250 are inherently bad
Pathetic, really.
Go watch some PTA, Coen Brothers, Kubrick slop, you halfwit.
Those are some fantastic directors, but I'm actually about to watch Above the Law. Stay mad.
BORING
nta but you sound like the boring one anon, its ok to like things, you need to get that stick out of your ass
Ah the Gen-X sheep """opinion""".
It's an old code but it passes.
You could have had an adult movie where a species of primitive humanoid aliens exploited by the Empire join up with the Rebels on Endor and wage a brutal guerilla conflict to take out the shields and overthrow the Empire's hold on the moon. Instead you got teddy bears that completely undermine any threat the Empire's forces could potentially have.
Return of the Jedi is absolutely based because it's fucking retarded and weird and comedic.
Star Wars isn't supposed to be some serious political espionage it's supposed to be shit where droids curse people out in beep boop talk and little blue elephant dudes play the space-piano.
Thank you. I have no clue why people love Return of the Jedi but hate the prequels. Everything bad about them was in that movie first.
I had no idea that return of the jedi had horrendously bad and overused cgi that made everything look fake as fuck, nice opinion you got there. RotJ has its issues but the intro, the final space battle and the whole palpatine's throne room sequence shit on everything the prequels have to offer. Not to mention it has withstood the test of time pretty gracefully, while the prequels (especially the first two) would be unwatchable based on cgi and visuals alone even if they were otherwise masterpieces.
True. The prequels sucked dick.
Fibbypibpee
Holy based. Look at all the prequel sissies seething at the truth.
as somebody that grew up with the prequels, you are partially right. Should only have been Episode IV and nothing more. fuck sequels
This. Also the universe sucks for movies. Good video games though
FUCK YOU
FPBP, there hasn't been a good Star Wars movie since Return
>since Return
*since Empire
no since return the best star wars movie
*Empire
meaningless movie without a message. gains relevance only through the events in rotj
just logging into 4 Chan to say this comment is absolutely correct and that anyone responding to the contrary needs to grow the fuck up
this. star wars peaked with the rotj finale and it should have ended there. you could have had unrelated adventures in the setting like mando once promised to be but instead all we got was slop
based
MEGA based
Should have ended with the first movie
the problem with Shart Warts is that it was even conceived
The problem with Star Wars is that George didn't send an extermination squad to every Gen-X household shortly after releasing the prequels. They literally caused the sequels.
homosexual boomer detected
Georgie created the prequels so they are as much star wars as everything else, and your gay little opinion will never change that
I agree. Whoring Star Wars out to the mouse and Kathleen was his choice and part of his flawless vision for Star Wars as well, so that goes for the sequel trilogy too, I might add.
they should've ever made any of them. if i could i'd go back and kill lucas as a baby
>they hated him because he spoke the truth
Nothing wrong there. Seethe, you joyless fucks.
samefag
The problem with Star Wars is a sheer amount of manchildren telling professional writers how to do their jobs
You mean LeShaunda Jones and Ari Finkleberg?
I think you're giving them way more credit than they deserve, calling them either professional or writers
I, for one, welcome their AI replacements. They can't be worse at the job, at least
Retard. The man children ARE the writers.
It's like Disney took all the worst conclusions from The Last Jedi and now everything feels like it was written by r/starwars. I can't imagine any normal human being watching and enjoying the new Ahsoka show, they'd be incredibly confused.
nigga you had 8 years to consume all og star wars content
fuck them newhomosexuals
I know your post is bait, but we all know that random star wars EU autists taken off the street would write a better show than the women at disney
Bioware already made far better plots compared to Disney. I doubt they'd ever try to work on a movie, though.
kotor could easily be adapted for a tv series. 10 episode game of thrones style set in old republic would be very easy to do. the problem is they are intentionally destroying these franchises. there is no other possible explanation. incompetence only goes so far. decades of hate and deliberate propaganda prove they want to do this. they want to destroy the franchise and hollywood is doing it to every thing that people hold dear or loved until nothing remains and the well so poisoned you will never again associate them with good. they can then rebuild when all the white people are murdered with a new religion and new history and new idols for the mud people to believe in.
>professional writers
They're literally paid high salaries to be writers. You being a grown man who lives with his mom doesn't negate what they are.
>literally paid high salaries to be writers
oh? What are they being paid then? A number if you will, not more retardation
Look up what these striking writers guild homosexuals are making, hundreds of thousands and that's just for TV not movies, and that's per season not per year.
look where? I have not seen anything about them making hundreds of thousands.
here you dingdong
those are all one time payments, and almost none of them make the top pay out
>professional writers
So you admit it's the ~~*profession*~~ itself that's fucked.
No wonder you're terrified and phobic of AI.
How are those "professional writers" working for ya, disneytranny?
Impressive, very nice
Now lets see Andor numbers
About the same as ashoka, it's fucking ogre for lucasfilm is what I'm getting at
Angry Video Game Nerd is beating Star Wars and he’s a fucking vegetable lol.
The “professional writers” suck ass Johnny
>they're professional so it's impossible for them to churn out shite
Incel moment.
PT > OT
Fuck boomers and fuck millennials.
so anakin instructed that dumb bitch to hold the lightsaber upside down from the beginning? no wonder her training isnt complete. its like fucking kung pow. they trained her wrong as a joke.
The sequels proved they can't make their own material so they may as well focus on nostalgia bait and fanwank if they're not going to sell the franchise.
Disney is stealing content from extended universe and calling it their canon. It happened with sequels and Ashoka series.
The problem with star wars is that it exists.
me on the top but not the bottom
How do they keep blowing it so bad with every new show or movie they introduce? You would think there would be one kino but nope zero.
>You would think there would be one kino
There is.
You know the villain is kino when you laugh at the character the show is named after for getting obliterated.
Yes. Hope Thrawn will deliver as well. Got a bunch of chads in this one.
I always enjoyed watching anakin fight, and even though I don't care for this show, I do appreciate that he still moves like he does
Bro this coreography is so fucking dogshit. Anakin had the best fighting style in the entire canon (disney shit doesn't count), and then they produce this slow, rythmless fucking slop
Fuck yidsney
I love how all these nobodies know all about choreography. It looks fine to me, you fucking LARPers.
>I love how all these nobodies know all about choreography.
by having watched a fuckton of movies with better fights
He’s clearly not trying at all
He should have force choked sabine and threw her aside.
>”Noooooo” she said calmly
Terrible acting
Is this supposed to impress me?
What would impress you? I've noticed most of you don't have any standards bound in reality. It's usually your manchild minds fantasizing about how the world (or a piece of fiction) should be but rarely considering the real circumstances of how things get made and what has been achieved before. It's quite goofy.
Andor was good, i wasn't "impressed" but after that i doubt I'm going to watch anything starwars related.
>Andor was good
It wasn't bad, was it?
Badly paced, brown people slice of life show with terribly bland non-Star Wars designs and socialist politics. Yes, it was bad.
Look, being totally honest with you i don't remember the plot, but i remember liking it, still i never thought of it as one of my favourites, so it probably wasn't out of this world.
>Andor was good
You are the problem.
The fights have been so bad so far but Hayden can actually do a good fight, maybe he hasnt forgotten all the choreography from Ep III
>maybe he hasnt forgotten all the choreography from Ep III
If he's able to do a good fight scene then that means he has.
ahsoka is slow as fuck and is her blade bending?
terrible. the dude looks slow af and not menacing at all. dawson looks annoying as usual and cant pull off being a badass fighter
Lmao didnt know lightsabers can bend, watch the last part closely
>Based blind anon
The hilt is bent since Ahsoka's sword is basically a lightkatana and not a lightsaber, as stupid as that may be
WHY AREN"T THESE SENIOR CITIZENS RUNNING AROUND ULTRA FAST AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Andor was shockingly pretty good
reliable but low-effort bait
Star Wars is for children. The original Star Wars movies were mildly entertaining blockbusters and only became a big sensation because they helped establish a genre of less "conceptual" and more universally accessible science fantasy. A lot of kids at the time became nostalgic for them in the same way their dads were nostalgic for Clint Eastwood or John Wayne westerns. "Franchises" are an evil concept. "Universes" are an evil concept. We are caught in an endless cultural loop like a bad dream that never ends. We need to wake up from this.
I disagree, what now?
Eh. Not really. Very reductionary way of looking at things. Problem is that people treat them religiously. Wouldn't be a problem if they went to Church on Sunday and then watched some Star Wars in the afternoon.
cause jediism is a good alternative to abrahamic cults
grow up
Ah, sweet, twatter screencap thread.
Can down, manbaby
This is gay, too long and the lmao quentin irony/sincerity is badly done and dated.
>words words words
powerful and brave
Pretty slick of him, making sure that both of them don't reproduce.
My first time laughing at a Cinemaphile post in years. Dog bless the autist who made this.
Chudbros, we're free.
The movie star wars was a huge hit because in several ways 'it was like nothing anyone had ever seen'. The franchise star wars is 'i want to see what i saw before so i feel good like i did in that time'. You can replace star wars with any franchise. Franchises are for homosexuals
The problem with Star Wars are the onions manchildren valuing the aesthetics and continuity of a story taking place in the Star Wars universe over a good story or characters. There is a reason why the Nobility absolutely despised Penny Dreadfuls, which was literature for the masses, creating the first franchises. It‘s plebeian as fuck. The authors would just write very similar detective, horror, fantasy stories over and over again with the same characters doing the same stuff over and over again.
>valuing the aesthetics and continuity of a story
Nothing wrong with that.
>over a good story or characters
People want spectacle, fantastic visuals, and Star Wars has that frequently.
Nah, It's problem is Kathleen Kennedy
Clone Wars was only good to lazy fans, ya know never picked up a book or game.
PT > OT
Who the fuck was that young in 2008?
Anon, 2008 was fifteen years ago.
The problem with Star Wars is the fans.
Is it? Or is it the garbage management?
I wanna know what KK has on Disney that they let her stick around, cause realistically the men are keeping it alivejst04
She was Spielberg's #2 for decades so imagine the circles she must have been through. Ether she knows some Weinstein level dirt or where bodies are.
Some questions to the people who like Star War:
What made you like Star Wars? You grew up watching the movies, right? Do you have another movie, show or book you consider better than Star Wars?
I'm curious because I watched some SW movies when I was a kid, but it wasn't my thing.
>What made you like Star Wars? You grew up watching the movies, right?
Yes, but I rewatched them recently (Prequels) and like them more than ever. I like the characterisations, the overall ambition as a space opera, the fantastic music, and most of the design work. Also, them being full of good looking people of course.
>Do you have another movie, show or book you consider better than Star Wars?
Naturally, lol.
Show me a single other movie series that goes from showing the protagonist as an innocent child, to detailing his fall into darkness to eventually celebrating his redemption.
Honestly? Probably the video games.
If the games didn't exist (dark forces/jedi outcast, battlefront, republic commando, kotor) I would not have given the slightest fuck about SW.
I like ANH and ESB, I like the throne room stuff in ROTJ but the rest of the films I cannot stand.
Star Wars is like Taco Bell, it's the same damn ingredient rearranged into new products and I have no idea how people watch it if you don't have some form of autism.
Jedi, Sith, Force, Light Sabers, Blasters, Clones/storm troopers
Star Wars is a very simple story and they managed to spread it so thin
people like adventures
Star Wars isn't an adventure.
In spite of being set in space, it's a very very small universe.
Everything in the universe is either tangentially or directly related to the Jedi or the Sith. Every villain is a sith or someone working for a Sith. Every hero uses a lightsaber and the force.
Compare this to say, Star Trek. The federation are the main characters,. but there's always a wide variety of races and cultures that act independently of each other. Every villain isn't a fucking Borg or working for the Borg. Every hero isn't in the Federation.
Star Wars is an adventure you pretentious idiot.
It's a small adventure that works for 3 movies,
It's not a big enough adventure with a variety of themes and elements to be spread over 12 fucking movies, 4 future movies, and 15 mainline TV shows that by and large regurgitate the same story, set in the same world, with the same hero, with the same antagonist
anon, did you know that they've been making pirate movies for decades?
Kek. Star Trek is infinitely smaller because its universe is a nihilistic one. Duh.
it's literally an adventure
sword fighting, swashbuckling, daring do, visiting interesting places
fuck, that's basically a Douglas Fairbanks movie with a coat of sci fi and fantasy paint
Diversity hire writers and directors that make shit content.
it's hilarious that star wars is supposedly this vast universe of endless possibilities and the only thing star wars writers can come up with as a plot is "rebels vs the empire"
Lucas handed them an original plot on a golden platter and Disney threw that out to give the fans member berries
because that's what the fans wanted, clearly, because they hated a different style of story in the prequels
but apparently they hated the member berries, too
Isn't that exactly what the OT fans wanted from PT? For it to grow with them?
>LA FAN MEET UP
These guys live in a bubble or something. Nobody wants to deal with Los Angeles traffic or the scores of tweakers camping in the streets.
>LA tweakers an traffic
dont forget the nagger flash mobs
>dont forget the nagger flash mobs
oh yeah, I saw that on the chud news a bunch of times. Which means in reality it happens like a few times a year. Its a real problem!!!!
Star Wars is in a shitty place right now but there were 33 thousand votes, that's still 1600 something people.
Ahsoka doesn't exist. No part of it makes any sense in any of the lore of the entire Jedi order
Three pretty good movies from 39-45 years ago has led to this current religion of consuming. It still astounds me how the original trilogy has carried this franchise on its back over the decades, when literally nothing else since has been good. Fans should've let it fizzle out already. Now the thing you loved sucks
4 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 5 > 6 > solo > 9 > R1 > 7 > 8
Gennedy clone wars was excellent. I also enjoyed obi wan show although unneeded.
Never watched any of that filoni clone wars, rebels, ahsoka, baby Yoda shit.
You got to watch clone wars, rebels and ahsoka
baby yoda and boba fett is meh
>I also enjoyed obi wan show
>9 the best sequel
HUH?
I watch for them
They shoulda made them a dicky relationship
>implying I watched Rebels
The mentally ill tranny fans are the problem. People who like Star Wars are sub-human trash.
The original trilogy wasn't that bad but it wasn't good. It was a simple story and some cool visuals. Star Wars was good tech demo. There was nothing special about Star Wars, it was stupid shit for retards.
But the retards liked it so much they made prequals, and then they made 20 more Star Wars movies and 100 different cartoon Star Wars shows. And the fans ate it up.
Now 40 years later they try to shovel this slop down everyone's throat, and they have infinite money because some trash they made today has the name ''Star Wars'' slapped on it. That's all it ever is. Just make trash, call it star wars and go ''remember the lightsabers??? remember this guy???? Ummm Luke mother fucking Skywalker???''
Nothing but referencing the original trilogy, the only 3 passable movies.
>2008
Yes I do remember 2008 when people were fans of Star Wars for the first time in history
The problem is that you keep giving them money. Not just for the current Star Wars trash but for the soulless capeshit that preceded it and gave us this generation of boring, sanitized, cookie cutter corporate homosexualry.
I'm going to go back to forgetting that Disney Star Wars exists, maybe play Jedi Academy and read the Thrawn Trilogy.
“Lol, they still haven’t picked up their lightsabers. Docile idiots.”
I never could get into that Clone Wars show. It was so damn boring.
Jay? Is that you?
The problem with star wars is the fan base is so completely mind fucked and brain dead they can't even see what is in front of their face.
An example, the most recent and infamous appearance of Hayden Christensen in Ahsoka.
I see so many of these dipshits pontificating about every fucking wild theory that pops into their head as they descend to the level of the minutiae that would make the biggest schitzo on /x/ say look bro you need to take a break.
Everything in Ahsoka so far has been Filoni written, plain as day, simple to digest, but these morons are so mystified looking for hidden meanings and easter eggs that they can't see the forest for the trees.
>meanwhile rogue one and andor are pure kino, because its about adult themes, with adults settings with adult situations
>its almost as if the flying, mindcontrolling, laser swords and idiotic skywalker saga are what attracts children
Lmao
Yes and?
midwit manchild
>autistic buzzword incel
See, I can also do it!
No, you can't because I'm right and you're wrong.
Right? About what? What are you talking about? Did I miss your argument somewhere between the autistic screeching and the poor attempt and single word trolling?
>t. midwit manchild
And thats checkmate
The flashes of Vader with Anakin walking through the smoke was kino and I'm not afraid to admit it.
>the problem with Star Wars
is it's produced by homosexuals for homosexuals.
Heres the trailer, kinda at 1min
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Nah, the sequels just suck. Adults can still watch and enjoy the original trilogy and even most of the games. If something was genuinely good it stays so. I still love watching old cartoons, stuff like Swat Kats and the Galaxy Rangers, I've got hundreds of those series on my plex server, though more likely I have them on in the background.
The Clone Wars shit on TV are not “the prequels” and shouldn’t be compared to the movies.
Everything out now is kids TV. It doesn’t mean it’s connected to any movie. It’s too crap to be the main story.
Remind me again why Lucas fanboys don't blame their beloved leader for being a sellout? He could have just, you know, not been a greedy asshole and we wouldn't have to deal with DisneyWars in current year
>greedy
Didn't he donate most of the money? It was his worst decision anyway. descision
>Remind me again why Lucas fanboys don't blame their beloved leader for being a sellout?
Because if they liked the garbage being churned out in the later years of Lucas owning the franchise they probably enjoy the garbage being churned out now?
>people wanted nostalgie
>they get it
>still find a way to complain and consume the issue rinse and repeat
you love to see it.
I will never get over how ugly that cartoon is.
The problem with Star Wars is people who claim to hate it continue to watch everything related to Star Wars then bitch about it.
imagine running the biggest movie franchise of all time so hard into the ground the only thing left is some dudes cartoon waifu and nostalgiabaiting for a mid kids TV show