Anon meant that MCU Ned is a copy paste of Ganke--Mile's roommate who was originally introduced in the Ultimate Comics. MCU Ned even copies Ned's love of Legos.
Peter was never a loser in high school, it's a misinterpretation since most gays don't read comics. He was loner in high school and a general dickhead to everyone which is where his talent for quips comes from. He didn't become humble Peter until Uncle Ben died
To be fair Peter being dick in a high school because everyone (except for Liz Allen) keep shitting on him for being and a nerd. Plus Ditko wrote him him like that
>He didn't become humble Peter until Uncle Ben died
That's not true either, if anything his new confidence made him stand up for himself and become an even bigger butthole until he started to be friends with Harry and Gwen in college
>ignoring the people still mad that an inner city Peter has brown class mates instead of going to a school that’s pre-civil rights segregated so that he can have an all-white cast.
You have been btfo with statistics and facts multiple times ITT and you still cling to this cope lol that's sad
>there are a total of 12 minorities that exist in Peter’s world of NYC, one of the most diverse cities in the world, that he has interacted with at one time or another >throw an insane shitfit over it
And yet somehow they chose to use NONE of peters actual black and brown supporting cast members and instead chose to race swap, really activates the almonds
Dont have an opnion on Harry being raceswapped, but god damm, why is he the only character here with a fricking tie to peter? Everyone else is a random marvel hero/villain. >Nico >Cho >Pearl Pangan >Jean Foucault
And lonnie lincoln as a friend too.
Its just so bizarre. Why not use any of peter's hundreds of obscure supporting cast members instead? He has a ton. Or frick, even superheroes he has ties with.
Americans of Cinemaphile explain this to me. So in your current media. An author writes/draws a comic or book, that makes everyone white and blue-eyed. Stuff becomes popular, the media tries to adapt it making racial quotas and this and that char change from palest to darkest, and from straight to rainbowsexual. The fans get pissed, the left praises them because muh representation, and the author who made everyone white gets a pass because he says: I'm ok with this.
This is stupid on so many levels...
1. The left is praising a material that they consumed that is what they supposedly hate. So even if you change this adaptation, the original is still around and everyone can see that no one was gay, black, or asian in the first place.
2. The author does not get any heat from the cancel mob if he nods at them.
3. The fans get pissed because, but the original work is still around, you can still read it, its annoying that everyone just will talk about the netflix/amazon version but if they want more content. They WILL have to deal with the original .
It begs the question: where is the issue? In the end isn't just the question: is this story/film/book good? Can I enjoy it?
>But there is too much gay/brown it burns my eyes, makes my knee hurt.
Then just skip this iteration there surely are others that won't be like this, be it old media or newer. And the original product is still around.
Star Wars, Star Trek, He-man, Marvel, DC, Saint Seiya, I love all these media all of them have a revised version, where everyone is something they are not in the original I have seen the new stuff, and if the new story sucks I just skip it. It's just a phase eventually this will lose steam and everything will be revised again. And the original work will be the starting point.
Literally everyone here but Harry isnt a peter supporting cast member, there's that girl from AA and the agent of atlas chick. And tombstone, for some reason.
I wonder why they didnt make a show about ps4 spider-man's past since that version has 8 years to set it in AND is very popular too. And you can put in the origins for a ton of his villains.
Because Sony can't make shows. Disney's approach to non-MCU stuff is to let it rot. Theoretically Sony could do animated movies, but Disney plays hardball on them like that. Sony could've continued SSM as movies, but when they edited a collection of SSM episodes as a movie as a test Disney got pissed at them.
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Sony can make shows tho, they just have to be over 40 minutes long. And the imnsoniac version is owned by marvel apparently.
>Peter never had ANY connections with the Runaways, so its seems so pointless.
America never had ANY connections with Dr. Strange and yet, here we are.
Who is this for? Originally I thought it was meant to be an MCU prequel series. Now it looks like it's own thing fully. Why couldn't we have just got Spectacular Spider-Man style thing. This just seems different for the sake of it.
They like pairing Spider-Man with other heroes. From Spider-Man and his amazing friends to these MCU movies. In Ultimate Spider-Man comic didn't Kitty Pryde go to his school for a while? And in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon he has another team of z-lister heroes.
>The previous options for MCU Peter's supporting cast for a freshman year are Flash and Ned.
And Betty, Michelle, Cindy along the whole science team group
>Tfw Peter was an adult when he met lot of teen characters but in non-616 universe he a teen meeting them as teens like Kitty,This chick,Ms.Marvel,etc
Makes the ships a bit creepy.
>Peter never really had any friends in highschool and often times kept to himself >He didn't really get a friend group until college
Let's give him friends.
Ya know for once I would actually like to see a loner Peter Parker all throughout highschool in media. But I don't think that would grab normies very well. Maybe it will idk
Spectacular did that to some extent. He was interacting with his school mates via his work with Doctor Conners. As for school they pretty much ignored each other .
Marvel seems to be really pushing this character recently did someone really like those Raven comics at DC and thought Marvel should also have their own Teen Goth girl?
Goth is in and Nico is one of their least problematic asian and LGBTQ characters without the baggage or desperate pandering that the others bring, her only downsides are boring ass Karolina who Marvel already shot her off to space limbo never to be used again, and Nico's Sister Grim identity has 0 iconography to it, which will hurt in the long run as a part of a superhero universe.
She also doesn't have decades of solo books to draw off of so she's a blank state you can do nearly anything with.
Spiderman comics dont sell, mcu Spiderman is litterally miles in whiteface.
NWH is only happened because of spiderverse.
Miles YA book is making a mint.
Spiderverse only had Miles because the directors wouldn't agree to the film otherwise. Miles merch from the movie sold like shit while Peter's was the most popular. Miles books sell below the cancellation threshold but still don't get canceled. Miles game sold like shit
>look Peter looks all nerdy like Ditko Spider-Man >It's back to basics! >Literally everything else is changed
This feels like they are gaslighting people
You're right, they went from 13% in 1960 to 20% in 2020, this means every single character except Peter should be the blackest homie to ever exist and honestly just replace Peter with Miles. Ignore whites and hispanics being 30% each...
Blacks have been 13% of the population for almost a century now, only the hispanic population grew in proportion but looky there, not a single character was raceswapped to hispanic to reflect modern demographics, in fact they're all black
I think it is mostly that most hispanics self insert just fine as white and usually sit on both sides or the middle of the current American racial debate, while blacks mostly have firmly taken the Whites vs Us narrative. So Hispanic Superman would probably annoy as many hispanics as it would please, while Black Superman will probably be embraced by 80% of blacks.
Black anon, we just want more actual characters. Race swapping is mildly annoying. Like I would kill for a good movie adaptation of anything Milestone related.
How would you feel about a parody of the black guy dies first trope in horror movies where instead the guy has become a paranoid but badass survivalist who killed all the monsters before they could kill him and lived through multiple horror movie scenarios as a Doomguy like being
I mean it's pretty explicitly trying to rewrite history and get people to associate "original comic Spider-Man = woke diversity", same thing with Spider-Verse looking like comics and focusing on Miles. The point is to get people who never read the comics to defend the diverse garbage by claiming it was also in the comics, because they saw a comic-looking animation with diversity once.
What did you read? Updates to origins rewrite history. Its part of cape shit sliding timeline. Adding more PoC to cast is no different than adding cellphones to Clark's office or making Frank participate in an imaginary war.
Again, your post has nothing to do with the original argument
2 years ago
Anonymous
Argument is woke diversity is bad because not muh comics in that post. What are you getting out of it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm getting the contents of the post which are clear as day, if you fail to grasp what it's getting at from the text itself, I see no reason why any elaboration would help you understand
>MCU built by Perlmutter and Feige. >Perlmutter didn't care about diversity and wanted to sell while the sun was shining with fan shit. >Feige cares about diversity but was more focused on creating a longer series of films and creating a good formula. >Them fighting made the modern MCU a success because they chose their battles. >Perlmutter sidelined and forced out so Feige complete control. >Feige goes full diversity, feels all the pressure of the Disney+ push and buckles.
Honestly you needed someone with a different point of view here.
Peter was never a loser in high school, it's a misinterpretation since most gays don't read comics. He was loner in high school and a general dickhead to everyone which is where his talent for quips comes from. He didn't become humble Peter until Uncle Ben died
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isnt peter like loser or some shit?
# >Peter was never a loser in high school, it's a misinterpretation since most gays don't read comics. He was loner in high school and a general dickhead to everyone
Him being a loner and a dickhead complaining about the popular kids can be described as him being a loser.
Seems like semantics. You don't really have a point.
It's set in a modern high school, nothing has changed except what Americans look like
I wasn't talking about the diverse high school cast. That was your assumption and projection. More the fact that they've stuffed a bunch of heroes in his supporting cast and changed a bunch of stuff.
>Him being a loner and a dickhead complaining about the popular kids can be described as him being a loser.
And that's where you're wrong. Peter was invited to hangout but refused because he saw himself above them and was focused on his future success. People think Flash bullied Peter for no reason but it was actually because Peter was a dick to people trying to be nice to him
Yeah, this was just before Flash went left for Afghanistan because he was currently serving.
Peter was basically made to come to his going away party and they had an overdue address of grievances in which Peter says 'You bullied me and my highschool life hell' to which Flash replies 'Dude, you were so high and you farts you looked down on everyone. The one time I asked you for help with homework, you made of me for no real reason. I definitely didn't help, but you made all the enemies at school yourself'.
It was a nice moment to show how both characters had grown and how the past can be painted pretty differently from reality.
Anon, the point I made went over your head. You're arguing semantics (meaning of words), in a rather petty way and it's pathetic. You seem to have a specific interpretation of a loser. You could easily describe Peters actions of that of a loser. Plenty of losers in school had arrogance and thought themselves better than others which made then prickly.
So I was not wrong in anyway shape or form. You just have a specific interpretation of a word when most people would call early Parker a bit of a loser. Do you understand now? Or do I have to explain it again?
You're making the mistake of using your personal perception as fact. It's a common misconception that Peter was "a loser" he wasn't, part of that myth stems from the FOX cartoon and the Raimi movies. Peter wasn't a loser , he was a loner, he could have had friends but chose not to
You're literally accusing me of doing something you're doing. You're using your bizarre perception.
A prickly loner can be described as a loser. You're just being narrow with your definitions of words. Which is based on your bizarre perception.
The stuff about Raimi is your projection and strawman because I never said any of that. Quit putting words into my mouth I never said.
My argument is you are playing semantics. Early Peter is a loser. You have a specific interpretation of it. Rainis loser Peter is a different type of loser.
>People think Flash bullied Peter for no reason but it was actually because Peter was a dick to people trying to be nice to him
It's really half and half. Sometimes Flash would literally provoke Peter for no reason or out of jealousy because Liz gained a crush on Peter
>Him being a loner and a dickhead complaining about the popular kids can be described as him being a loser.
Didn't know high school losers were capable of making costumes and casually beating grown adults committing crimes.
Are you utterly moronic? A high school loser is just someone that doesn't fit in for x reason. Ditko Spider-Man was a loser, a different type to Raimi movie Spider-Man. His peers didn't all know he was a superhero. From their perspective he was a loser. From the audience perspective he is anything but.
the standard of all women not being allowed to show skin continues even in the animations, this way felicia won't even appear and if she does you already know what will happen, it seems that disney is run by muslims
I remember reading these back in elementary school. Good times, but Chat would sometimes make everything 10x worse. >in argument with girl dating Flash Thompson >screams "Oh yeah? My boyfriend is Spider-Man!" >Peter intervenes, saying he'd prefer Thor >Flash replies with his favourite hero >Bros sign off and escort their girls away >"I'm sorry Peter, I was just so mad...."
PATHETIC
No one can ever replace the true Mary Jane Watson.
>X-Men 97 being made >Despite the original actually having an ending >The multiple Spider-man cartoons that didn't even get conclusions don't get shit >Instead we get this trash
moronic.
I think it’s the same reason as to why we never got any comics or shows depicting the adventures and missions the Avengers had between movies. And why What If? is regulated to only characters that are depicted already in the MCU. If you introduce a new “MCU version” of a character in another medium then any new director or writer that signs onto the MCU to make something is going to be beholden to that or find a work around or else your thing is no longer canon and loses a big part of its appeal like what happened with Agents of Shield. Likewise if you only use random goons and OCs and no actual supervillains from the comics no one is going to care. So this is basically the compromise. But honestly aside from the MCU connection fake out this is sounding pretty good ignoring the people still mad that an inner city Peter has brown class mates instead of going to a school that’s pre-civil rights segregated so that he can have an all-white cast.
>ignoring the people still mad that an inner city Peter has brown class mates instead of going to a school that’s pre-civil rights segregated so that he can have an all-white cast.
You have been btfo with statistics and facts multiple times ITT and you still cling to this cope lol that's sad
>the population of a city is less than half white and other half is minorities
>”hahaha see anon all of his classmates should be white!!”
Not really sure what you’re getting at here, anon. Plenty of other shows are set in places where the demographics aren’t depicted accurately with at most one brown person in the entire cast. Why is it sacrilege for an alternate reality Peter to go to a school with a higher population of brown kids?
[...] >there are a total of 12 minorities that exist in Peter’s world of NYC, one of the most diverse cities in the world, that he has interacted with at one time or another >throw an insane shitfit over it
Yeah you really showed me, anon
>black people are 19% of Queens, 13% of America, 4% of the western world >"haha see anon this means every single character that's not Peter should be black including previously existing white characters"
Not really sure what you’re getting at here, anon.
The post you made where you pasted in every single brown character even ones that made a very minor appearance is fricking insane. You’re acting like these are the only characters in the movies when there are plenty of white characters that are more important parts of the movies. Like you added that black guy in Peter’s class that maybe got 5 minutes total screen time over all three movies lol There’s reaching for straws and then there’s this. I genuinely question whether you’ve actually lived in or visited a diverse city in your entire fricking life.
This is what high schools look like anon, idk what to tell you
2 years ago
Anonymous
If "that's what they look like" is a valid argument then none of the characters should've been raceswapped because that's not what they look like
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you spend a lot of time inside inner city high schools, anon?
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's not what Peter's supporting cast looks like
2 years ago
Anonymous
That image is decades old and is from a picture book, anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's what they look like anon, people don't suddenly switch races as they get older to match the demographics of their region
2 years ago
Anonymous
Those characters are from a universe that didn’t accurately reflect population demographics. The MCU movies do so some characters are different. Is that really a difficult concept?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Those characters are from a universe that didn’t accurately reflect population demographics.
1. They did
2. Even if New York became 100% black overnight that still wouldn't be a valid reason to change them
2 years ago
Anonymous
we are slowly taking over and there’s nothing you can do about it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Except one day declare a pogrom on your asses. Again.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Whatever helps you cope at night
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't you have an abortion ban to be crying about or something? What's your majority leadership doing lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
[...] >black people are 19% of Queens, 13% of America, 4% of the western world >"haha see anon this means every single character that's not Peter should be black including previously existing white characters"
Not really sure what you’re getting at here, anon.
Not sure if you don’t actually live in America or were just home schooled so have never heard about it but neighborhood zoning affecting the population of schools is a thing in America. And a lot of more well-off white people live in suburbs and nicer city neighborhoods and so their schools are pretty white and typically much nicer than the schools in the less well off areas. The people left in those less nice areas are oftentimes brown. Those brown people oftentimes are not able to afford to move their kids into the nicer white neighborhoods. So the schools have a much higher percentage of brown kids compared to white kids even though the total population of white people in America or a given city is higher. There are still some white kids in those schools whose families don’t move into suburbs or put them into private schools but not nearly as many compared to the brown kids. Peter would absolutely fall into that category, This isn’t some woke SJW agenda. These are conditions that white people literally created and the show is depicting that more realistically than most shows on TV. You being ignorant of that aspect of American society is more on you than some sort of failing on the show or movie’s part.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh sorry anon I forgot to bring my explanation down to your level. Let’s try this again: White people don’t like living near brown people. While people move away from brown people. Brown people can’t afford to move away. The schools where brown people can’t afford to move away from end up having more brown people. The MCU Spidey show and movie are accurate.
Were you able to read that? I can’t simpler if you need me to, anon. I really want to make sure you understand this concept so you don’t go around looking like an ignorant c**t for the rest of your life <3
2 years ago
Anonymous
They are high school kids, nothing has been swapped besides the time period
2 years ago
Anonymous
And the races of multiple previously white characters
2 years ago
Anonymous
Those characters were just American kids though, they haven't been swapped this is just what Americans look like today.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Those characters are those characters and they used to be white and now they're not
2 years ago
Anonymous
It really doesn’t matter and if anything his supporting cast more accurately reflects what they’d actually look like irl. Marvel is supposed to be the “world outside your window” not “the world I wish I lived in because brown people scare me and are the reason I have no gf”
2 years ago
Anonymous
They don't exist IRL, they are fictional characters
those characters were American kids, they are still American kids. Literally nothing has changed chud
Except their races
2 years ago
Anonymous
those characters were American kids, they are still American kids. Literally nothing has changed chud
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jesus frick you don't know a damn thing about how school districts function then. School population is typically based around the population of the county they reside in and last I checked Peter grew up in the suburbs, his school being majority brown would be unlikely
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, does Peter in the MCU live in the suburbs?
2 years ago
Anonymous
He doesn't live in the city until he starts college
2 years ago
Anonymous
He lives in an inner-city apartment with Aunt May for all three MCU movies. Did you watch any of the movies?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>School population is typically based around the population of the county
No? It’s based on the immediate neighborhoods that feed into a school. That’s why you have poor neighborhood schools being made up of more black and brown students and richer neighborhoods having schools that are predominantly white.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes moron, the county. Learn what you're talking about before speaking
2 years ago
Anonymous
It’s not based on the county you fricking dumbass. Look it up instead of just pulling shit out of your ass.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jesus Christ you fricking moron districts are drawn up by county, not by neighborhood.
2 years ago
Anonymous
School districts are but individual schools are not. And the population of specific schools is based on the neighborhoods that surround them. Individual school districts don’t determine where a person goes to school. That’s why people move out of certain areas and into other neighborhoods within the same city. You can have rich and poor schools within the same district, you fricking idiot.
hilarious how you guys always like to parade statistics out as though that has any real impact on stuff like this. If someone was in a mostly non-white neighborhood that doesn't mean they will have all non white friends all of a sudden, the same holds in reverse. People go out of their way to choose who to be with. And apparently in this case that is what Peter chose.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The original guy defending raceswaps brought up statistics though, see
It's set in a modern high school, nothing has changed except what Americans look like
and
>Blacks are still only %13 of the population.
In New York? In Queens?
>Minorities should be the majority in all media simply because they exist
2 years ago
Anonymous
They’re definitely not the majority “in all media”. There’s just more representation now and you think that means whitoids are getting replaced.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How is it you people can be so dense? Have you never stopped to consider why most of our media and stories have humans in the first place when we could do anything else?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Their are two billlion Asians on the planet and two billion Black folk, soon to be 4 billion, they are not and have never been “minorities” it is wordplay to make you feel bad for acknowledging reality
2 years ago
Anonymous
They're minorities in my country homosexual. They can feel free to go back to being the majority in theirs
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why would they go back when they’re being pushed to become the majority in your country by your own government and major corporations
2 years ago
Anonymous
>White women realize they'd lose their status if white men go down.png
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, they're the majority in their own fricking countries, not the US or Europe. If you want be disengenious you're gonna have to learn how to hide it better
2 years ago
Anonymous
It’s a misnomer and you fricking know it, while you forcefully push the wrongs of the host countries you ignore the wrongs of the “minorities” because the media tells you to. This is what’s going to happen when the whites become minorities in their own homes, and you knowot
Queens is majority white and Hispanic. If you want to defend this shit at least know what you're talking about
Trying to imply that majority brown schools don’t exist because of population statistics and therefore the student body shouldn’t be so brown. And then you have
amazing
I love it
Which has more brown adults than kids posted as some sort of argument too as if a good amount of people in that image aren’t just random people that pop up for a few minutes if screentime.
Then you finish it off with
It’s a misnomer and you fricking know it, while you forcefully push the wrongs of the host countries you ignore the wrongs of the “minorities” because the media tells you to. This is what’s going to happen when the whites become minorities in their own homes, and you knowot
About how brown people are invading a beautiful white nation and the media is trying to get you to let your guard down so that the white race will be eliminated. All of that ignoring the fact that many places in the US that have high minority populations are that way because white people moved out because they didn’t want to associate with minorities.
And because the MCU is depicting where Peter would live and the people he’d live around more accurately than the comics from the 60s as a reflection of historical segregation this is supposedly an example of the Hollywood liberal globalists exterminating the white race.
Seems to me you guys just don’t like seeing brown people and all and just want them not to exist lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
The mcu depiction of peters social life has been bland and not a great representation of how much of a dick he was. But the race bending shows how they have no idea what to do about creating new characters so just have black characters stunt on him to give homosexuals like you a conflated sense of importance
You just don’t like seeing quality content, hence why you cream yourself over shitty rehashes that do nothing but shit on the source material
2 years ago
Anonymous
Actually his social life has been way more of a focus in the MCU than other film series. Not all Peters have been dicks. MCU Peter is closer to Ultimate Peter who had more of a social life And nah I’m just not some loser who never leaves his bumfrick small town nor thin skinned as to start screeching about white replacement every time a non-white person shows up on a screen lol
Seems to me like you just love seeing white characters turned to black for no reason
It just doesn’t really matter so I therefore don’t shit myself over it. It makes sense in the context of this Peter’s time and world regardless of whatever population statistics you want to post without context, anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It just doesn’t really matter
It does
>It makes sense in the context of this Peter’s time and world regardless of whatever population statistics you want to post without context, anon.
It doesn't
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ultimate peter sucked and had no friends outside of MJ and Harry and even then those depictions were bland and empty. Raimi got him down decent, where his social life suffered due to him being spider-man despite having a decent cast of supporting characters who were there for him. MCU threw away and pretense of his drama by eliminating the secret identity the moment they could. That’s why all of his supporting cast was bland and toothless, they were the safest possible characters to present to tasteless homosexuals like you
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, it sounds like you’re a sad frick who thinks every single depiction needs to be 1:1 with what you think Peter has to be and no other depiction or characterization is valid if it’s not just Harry and MJ. If things were up to you every Peter would be exactly the same. You seem like a boring homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not everything has to be one to one but they should at least be earnest and honest depictions of characters with a purpose beyond the current political message. But once again corporate prostitutes such as yourself enjoy the schedenfreud of the situation more that the work itself
2 years ago
Anonymous
MCU doesn't operate off traditional super hero cliches where identities are kept secret and operations are calndestine. In the MCU, super heroes are celebrities and watching them at work is like going to a live concert for your favorite band. Robert's Iron Man really set the stage for how capes would proceed onward in the MCU
2 years ago
Anonymous
It really explains why the movies pretty much ruined everything, like bringing gays like you into the conversation
2 years ago
Anonymous
Seems to me like you just love seeing white characters turned to black for no reason
2 years ago
Anonymous
Everyone is complaining about too many Black folk, though. Some people seem to want more hispanics if it means less Black folk and a handful are happy to see an asian female character. Stop lumping all brown people together.
Probably not in the way intended. Nico is from Cali. That's the fricking point that all the supes were in NY, so the Pride set up shop in Cali and were so good at it, they were believe to be a myth
Disney is claiming it’s in the MCU. But it can’t be in the movie MCU with Tom Holland given all the characters and plot holes. So if it’s in the MCU it’s another universe aka it’s own story.
Yes it can be but they were trying to trick people into thinking it was our MCU Peter not a multiverse one. They were hyping this up to be out Peters origin story.
At first, I just looked at the characters, without reading anything and thought this is a sequel to Daria where she becomes an FTM troony and Jane Lane is her girlfriend.
Anon, look at the MCU (and Star Wars) anything they shat out recently is just bait&switch to shill the next thing. She's probably there to gauge interest in a Runaways show
I know each one of the one ways had a different superpower origin because of the parents so which superpower source does this go get that form in the original comics?
>The religious figures of an ethnic population being turned white because more white people took over their lands >the supporting characters of a comic book character made black/brown to accurately reflect the neighborhood they’re from because the white people moved to the suburbs or put their kids in private schools >”these things are the same to me”
Anon, I’m sorry to tell you this but you’re a fricking moron.
White settlers exterminating natives and eliminating their culture by forced reeducation isn’t the same thing as brown people moving into formerly all white neighborhoods and white people moving away
Myth. Settlers only fought natives when they were attacked. The US bought land from natives who traded for shiny beads and rum and killed the ones who decided to stay and attack settlers
Yeah man giving natives blankets infected with smallpox was just a fun trade. Take this misinformation homosexualry leave or stormfront or wherever the frick you came from.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It happened once homie, the conquistadores did it more. Besides even if you include the 100 million natives killed accidentally by diseases brought by the Vikings, the scientific and medical advances made by white people in America have saved BILLIONS of more lives than they’ve taken. If you choose to hold the sins and sinners against an entire group than you have to hold the saints and good deeds against them as well
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you think they understood the concept of germs and immunities back then moron?
Make spider man a functional autist who can appear normal most of the time but has a meticulous way in which he does his stuff. He’s ok with occasional team ups, but if anyone tries to regularly help him without his permission, he will flip out on them.
Random but eh he was with that Asian oc in The new animated series so meh always pairing Peter with random ass women, relatable nerd my ass homie gets more ass than toilet seat
Someone has a fetish.
The female Asian and color streaks check out.
Like you wouldn't insert all your fetishes into a cartoon if you could draw
Father/daughter incest just doesn't sell.
ain't gonna lie i thought she was originally gonna be cindy moon
Oh lord the amount of WMAF posting is gonna be insane.
Joshua is gonna freak
they will both be gay
Eh. It won't be as bad as Silkgays.
didn’t happen that much when peter’s son had a loose goth asian gf
Why do shadows not affect this b***h's booger vitiligo?
Nobody cared for that comic. A lot of people forgot it was a thing until it finished.
So what happened with the green paint?
Huh???
But why?
Peter never had ANY connections with the Runaways, so its seems so pointless.
Fanfic, what do you expect? Also fricking Tombstone is part of Peter's supporting casts and as well Amadeus Cho
Does Peter not have any white friends?
>in 2022
anon please
peter is still a white guy due to a contract Stan Lee and Marvel signed.
>white
It’s racist for white people to like each other anon
The only reason Peter is still white and straight is thanks to Sony
Lol no, if Marvel didn't force it on them contractually you know he'd be gay and black ages ago
Marvel are the gays Sony use Miles in into the spiderverse when they originally planned on using Peter
No that was a condition by Lord and Miller
Didn't he get bit while in Highschool in the Raimi films?
You know the ones making this show are marvel right?
And that was back in 2010, if they could change the contract now im sure they would.
This contract was codified by Stan himself, I doubt it’s easy to go back on
True, altough some of the focuses are a bit too vague still.
It's largely thanks to Stan. He's on record saying that Peter is a straight white guy and anything else isn't him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/25/peter-parker-aka-spider-man-should-be-straight-and-white-says-co-creator-stan-lee/
Dangerously based Michelle Rodriguez quote in that article btw.
He didn’t have ANY friends in the older comics, anon.
Where the frick is Ned?
Ned is Miles friend, he was imported to the Tom Holland movies since they didn't want to use Harry for God knows what reason
>Ned is Miles friend
Anon meant that MCU Ned is a copy paste of Ganke--Mile's roommate who was originally introduced in the Ultimate Comics. MCU Ned even copies Ned's love of Legos.
One in the lab coat is Riri Williams isn't it?
Kinda shocked they didn't go with Bobby taking a spot to get a "built-in" gay.
Is that Amadeus Cho?
Yea he's got that same hairstyle. And that black girl in the lab coat is Riri Williams
Riri is coming in Wakanda Forever and Armor Wars. Wonder if Amadeus is going to be in something
isnt peter like loser or some shit?
Yes but they doesn't want to portrayed school as a toxic environment which is laughable
Peter was never a loser in high school, it's a misinterpretation since most gays don't read comics. He was loner in high school and a general dickhead to everyone which is where his talent for quips comes from. He didn't become humble Peter until Uncle Ben died
To be fair Peter being dick in a high school because everyone (except for Liz Allen) keep shitting on him for being and a nerd. Plus Ditko wrote him him like that
>He didn't become humble Peter until Uncle Ben died
That's not true either, if anything his new confidence made him stand up for himself and become an even bigger butthole until he started to be friends with Harry and Gwen in college
Which guy is Tombstone?
amazing
I love it
Do you think black people aren’t supposed to exist in NYC? Have you ever visited anywhere but your little shithole flyover state town?
see
>there are a total of 12 minorities that exist in Peter’s world of NYC, one of the most diverse cities in the world, that he has interacted with at one time or another
>throw an insane shitfit over it
Yeah you really showed me, anon
And yet somehow they chose to use NONE of peters actual black and brown supporting cast members and instead chose to race swap, really activates the almonds
Ok, doesn’t really matter as long as those characters are essentially the same.
>Ok, doesn’t really matter as long as those characters are essentially the same.
They're not
Will this image make anons face go all red with steam pouring out of his ears accompanied by a train whistle noise? Let’s find out!
I don't know there is more than one white person there so it kind of seems reasonable.
There's more than one white person in the show too.
these homosexuals need to get out of the fricking bike lane imo
Man Laura Harrier is cute.
This is actually realistic casting considering Peter is from QUEENS NY
Is queens (and bronx and the like) its own city or part of new york?
The part of NY that's 40% white and 20% black?
Why not add Firestar and Iceman while they're at it
>He cute!
what the frick is the point of this artstyle if its based on modern day
Really giving Daria vibes from these smiles.
>4 blacks, 2 Asians, 1 other
>Peter looks like a WW2 caricature of a Jap
Whatever.
AND MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR!
Wait, did they really give Peter 4 black friends and not include Hobie? Also no Johnny, absolute bullshit.
>At least I still have the constitution
>that Retro Peter design in the middle of everyone else
Is he a time traveler in this?
The old school artstyle with modern looks of everyone but Peter really jarring
Why is Tombstone not albino? where's the albino representation?
Tombstone should be a black albino like in the canon
is the guy in green supposed to be Harry? And what's up with the red topknot thing on his head?
>WHY ARE JAPANESE MANGA OUTSELLING COMICS IN THE US???
Comics sales died in the 80s, bringing up manga is stupid
please don't tell me Gwen is the one in the lab coat
Nope apparently its a random marvel heroine, Wave/Pearl Pangan.
Dont have an opnion on Harry being raceswapped, but god damm, why is he the only character here with a fricking tie to peter? Everyone else is a random marvel hero/villain.
>Nico
>Cho
>Pearl Pangan
>Jean Foucault
And lonnie lincoln as a friend too.
Its just so bizarre. Why not use any of peter's hundreds of obscure supporting cast members instead? He has a ton. Or frick, even superheroes he has ties with.
Oh thank god. I thought we had actually moved beyond personal pronouns and into people identifying as quantities.
Americans of Cinemaphile explain this to me. So in your current media. An author writes/draws a comic or book, that makes everyone white and blue-eyed. Stuff becomes popular, the media tries to adapt it making racial quotas and this and that char change from palest to darkest, and from straight to rainbowsexual. The fans get pissed, the left praises them because muh representation, and the author who made everyone white gets a pass because he says: I'm ok with this.
This is stupid on so many levels...
1. The left is praising a material that they consumed that is what they supposedly hate. So even if you change this adaptation, the original is still around and everyone can see that no one was gay, black, or asian in the first place.
2. The author does not get any heat from the cancel mob if he nods at them.
3. The fans get pissed because, but the original work is still around, you can still read it, its annoying that everyone just will talk about the netflix/amazon version but if they want more content. They WILL have to deal with the original .
It begs the question: where is the issue? In the end isn't just the question: is this story/film/book good? Can I enjoy it?
>But there is too much gay/brown it burns my eyes, makes my knee hurt.
Then just skip this iteration there surely are others that won't be like this, be it old media or newer. And the original product is still around.
Star Wars, Star Trek, He-man, Marvel, DC, Saint Seiya, I love all these media all of them have a revised version, where everyone is something they are not in the original I have seen the new stuff, and if the new story sucks I just skip it. It's just a phase eventually this will lose steam and everything will be revised again. And the original work will be the starting point.
I can already see all of these characters being better and more competent than peter.
Shouldn't Nico and Amadeus be at least 10 years younger than him?
Literally everyone here but Harry isnt a peter supporting cast member, there's that girl from AA and the agent of atlas chick. And tombstone, for some reason.
>It must be nighttime in Nigeria. Look at all these Black folk.
the articles about why this failed due to racist audiences have already been written.
uh...wait a second..
>Failed
Will it tho? Its going to be on disney plus and MCU lite shit there is eaten up.
Especially because its a spider-man cartoon after a while without one.
I wonder why they didnt make a show about ps4 spider-man's past since that version has 8 years to set it in AND is very popular too. And you can put in the origins for a ton of his villains.
Because Sony can't make shows. Disney's approach to non-MCU stuff is to let it rot. Theoretically Sony could do animated movies, but Disney plays hardball on them like that. Sony could've continued SSM as movies, but when they edited a collection of SSM episodes as a movie as a test Disney got pissed at them.
Sony can make shows tho, they just have to be over 40 minutes long. And the imnsoniac version is owned by marvel apparently.
>Peter never had ANY connections with the Runaways, so its seems so pointless.
America never had ANY connections with Dr. Strange and yet, here we are.
im willing to bet there's an original version of a script some where were it was magik instead based on the 2018 What if series.
Magik would be too much, she'd literally frick Peter's soul out.
wanda already did in comics so...
When?
https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tina_Minoru_(disambiguation)
Okay, thought so.
Tina Minoru is in the MCU twice.
what the frick
Disney wants synergy with everything now
Who is this for? Originally I thought it was meant to be an MCU prequel series. Now it looks like it's own thing fully. Why couldn't we have just got Spectacular Spider-Man style thing. This just seems different for the sake of it.
They like pairing Spider-Man with other heroes. From Spider-Man and his amazing friends to these MCU movies. In Ultimate Spider-Man comic didn't Kitty Pryde go to his school for a while? And in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon he has another team of z-lister heroes.
The previous options for MCU Peter's supporting cast for a freshman year are Flash and Ned.
So might as well make new PoC characters for brownie points, and Nico, because she's from a different MCU show and is a goth Asian girl
>The previous options for MCU Peter's supporting cast for a freshman year are Flash and Ned.
And Betty, Michelle, Cindy along the whole science team group
I seem to remember an issue in the later volumes where they're in NY and meet Spidey.
Nico met him in the comics, wasn't friends though.
>Tfw Peter was an adult when he met lot of teen characters but in non-616 universe he a teen meeting them as teens like Kitty,This chick,Ms.Marvel,etc
Makes the ships a bit creepy.
The did it for diversity
>Peter never really had any friends in highschool and often times kept to himself
>He didn't really get a friend group until college
Let's give him friends.
Ya know for once I would actually like to see a loner Peter Parker all throughout highschool in media. But I don't think that would grab normies very well. Maybe it will idk
Spectacular did that to some extent. He was interacting with his school mates via his work with Doctor Conners. As for school they pretty much ignored each other .
Ditko border-line school shooter Parker when?
This is literally the MCU
what the frick are you talking about, Tom Holland only acts aggressive towards the Green Goblin.
moron
okay moron.
>Ditko border-line school shooter
That's not him being a borderline school shooter. That's just him being a teenager
Marvel seems to be really pushing this character recently did someone really like those Raven comics at DC and thought Marvel should also have their own Teen Goth girl?
Oh god why didn't I think of that
Goth is in and Nico is one of their least problematic asian and LGBTQ characters without the baggage or desperate pandering that the others bring, her only downsides are boring ass Karolina who Marvel already shot her off to space limbo never to be used again, and Nico's Sister Grim identity has 0 iconography to it, which will hurt in the long run as a part of a superhero universe.
She also doesn't have decades of solo books to draw off of so she's a blank state you can do nearly anything with.
>that the others bring
what are the other Goth girls Marvel has?
Good
I love Nico
What's with the recent Nico push
First she's a playable character in Midnight Suns and apart of the Midnight Suns team for the synergy comic, now this
She's a mage.
Young and Asian.
That's it.
Needed an Asian friend but can't be male because evil or something.
So this is going to be Nico before she figures out her parents are evil magic users in a cult?
This will be Spider-Man for generations of kids
Only Miles is popular with kids anon.
Lmao again with your delusions bends
Spiderman comics dont sell, mcu Spiderman is litterally miles in whiteface.
NWH is only happened because of spiderverse.
Miles YA book is making a mint.
It's true.
Hahaha, no.
What silly bait.
Every single young hero is a Peter Parker/Spider-Man clone. All of them are. Saying MCU copied Miles when Miles was a copy?
Spiderverse only had Miles because the directors wouldn't agree to the film otherwise. Miles merch from the movie sold like shit while Peter's was the most popular. Miles books sell below the cancellation threshold but still don't get canceled. Miles game sold like shit
keep preaching anon
And why do they need Peter there in every piece of "Miles" media again
not the black kids
one more
kids don't read comics anymore, anon.
it's the harsh truth.
Bobblehead Anya is terrifying.
I was never one to lament Spider-Man getting Peter Pan'd and becoming a child forever but frick this is dire.
I'm so sick of the multiverse Spider-Man shit
same thing with Batfamily its just a brand not a character
ITSV is the only thing that has stuck and to be honest Peter B isn't half as bad an interpretation as pretty much any of that other shit.
>Peter B isn't half as bad an interpretation
He's the best version of Peter we've ever gotten on the big screen.
>40 year old Peter Parker still being irresponsible and making fun of Ben's words
>"best version of Peter we've ever gotten on the big screen"
not a single white person in the bottom panel
Oh great another WMAF
It's random because they don't care.
>every single character in Spiderman ethnic washed aside from Peter and Aunt Mary
It's all so tiresome
We're still yet to see a non-white Gwen but what they've been doing to her white has been much worse anyway
Gwen will probably stay white since they're trying to push Miles/Gwen in into the spiderverse
Why not just use Cindy Moon?
They'd have to have read Spider-Man comics or cares about Spider-Man to do that. This is all about uplifting characters for other phases and movies.
>Jeongol instead of Nabemono
Gross.
>look Peter looks all nerdy like Ditko Spider-Man
>It's back to basics!
>Literally everything else is changed
This feels like they are gaslighting people
It's set in a modern high school, nothing has changed except what Americans look like
America is still majority white. Blacks are still only %13 of the population. The only difference is there's more spics
>Blacks are still only %13 of the population.
In New York? In Queens?
Queens is majority white and Hispanic. If you want to defend this shit at least know what you're talking about
He probably thought Queens is a black ghetto based on that Electro line about thinking Spider-Man was black.
These morons genuinely think blacks are everywhere more like
You're right, they went from 13% in 1960 to 20% in 2020, this means every single character except Peter should be the blackest homie to ever exist and honestly just replace Peter with Miles. Ignore whites and hispanics being 30% each...
>In Queens?
46% white
19% black
23% asian
>America is still majority white.
There are no white people in America.
Blacks have been 13% of the population for almost a century now, only the hispanic population grew in proportion but looky there, not a single character was raceswapped to hispanic to reflect modern demographics, in fact they're all black
I think it is mostly that most hispanics self insert just fine as white and usually sit on both sides or the middle of the current American racial debate, while blacks mostly have firmly taken the Whites vs Us narrative. So Hispanic Superman would probably annoy as many hispanics as it would please, while Black Superman will probably be embraced by 80% of blacks.
Black anon, we just want more actual characters. Race swapping is mildly annoying. Like I would kill for a good movie adaptation of anything Milestone related.
How would you feel about a parody of the black guy dies first trope in horror movies where instead the guy has become a paranoid but badass survivalist who killed all the monsters before they could kill him and lived through multiple horror movie scenarios as a Doomguy like being
1/3 of that 13% lives in New York, anon. It’s not at all weird to see a modern hang out with minorities if the place he lives in has a lot of them.
That's not true though
>1/3 of that 13% lives in New York
Why are you making shit up ?
I mean it's pretty explicitly trying to rewrite history and get people to associate "original comic Spider-Man = woke diversity", same thing with Spider-Verse looking like comics and focusing on Miles. The point is to get people who never read the comics to defend the diverse garbage by claiming it was also in the comics, because they saw a comic-looking animation with diversity once.
Whine whine whine.
You care more about the skin colour than the fact they changed out most of Peter's supporting cast for new teen Marvel heroes.
I dislike both
Comics rewrite history. Its why Superman's office has computers when he leaves smallsville instead of type writers and telephone booths.
An all white school in the middle of New York post 2000 would make zero sense unless Peter is in some kinda hyper religious school.
That's not what that post said at all, who are you replying to
What did you read? Updates to origins rewrite history. Its part of cape shit sliding timeline. Adding more PoC to cast is no different than adding cellphones to Clark's office or making Frank participate in an imaginary war.
Again, your post has nothing to do with the original argument
Argument is woke diversity is bad because not muh comics in that post. What are you getting out of it?
I'm getting the contents of the post which are clear as day, if you fail to grasp what it's getting at from the text itself, I see no reason why any elaboration would help you understand
>MCu gets browner
>MCU movies start to become less successful
Hmmm...
>MCU built by Perlmutter and Feige.
>Perlmutter didn't care about diversity and wanted to sell while the sun was shining with fan shit.
>Feige cares about diversity but was more focused on creating a longer series of films and creating a good formula.
>Them fighting made the modern MCU a success because they chose their battles.
>Perlmutter sidelined and forced out so Feige complete control.
>Feige goes full diversity, feels all the pressure of the Disney+ push and buckles.
Honestly you needed someone with a different point of view here.
>
#
>Peter was never a loser in high school, it's a misinterpretation since most gays don't read comics. He was loner in high school and a general dickhead to everyone
Him being a loner and a dickhead complaining about the popular kids can be described as him being a loser.
Seems like semantics. You don't really have a point.
I wasn't talking about the diverse high school cast. That was your assumption and projection. More the fact that they've stuffed a bunch of heroes in his supporting cast and changed a bunch of stuff.
>Him being a loner and a dickhead complaining about the popular kids can be described as him being a loser.
And that's where you're wrong. Peter was invited to hangout but refused because he saw himself above them and was focused on his future success. People think Flash bullied Peter for no reason but it was actually because Peter was a dick to people trying to be nice to him
Wasn't it in an issue of Spectacular where Flash basically told him he used to be an butthole and deserved that bullying?
Yeah, this was just before Flash went left for Afghanistan because he was currently serving.
Peter was basically made to come to his going away party and they had an overdue address of grievances in which Peter says 'You bullied me and my highschool life hell' to which Flash replies 'Dude, you were so high and you farts you looked down on everyone. The one time I asked you for help with homework, you made of me for no real reason. I definitely didn't help, but you made all the enemies at school yourself'.
It was a nice moment to show how both characters had grown and how the past can be painted pretty differently from reality.
I was actually talking about pic related
Anon, the point I made went over your head. You're arguing semantics (meaning of words), in a rather petty way and it's pathetic. You seem to have a specific interpretation of a loser. You could easily describe Peters actions of that of a loser. Plenty of losers in school had arrogance and thought themselves better than others which made then prickly.
So I was not wrong in anyway shape or form. You just have a specific interpretation of a word when most people would call early Parker a bit of a loser. Do you understand now? Or do I have to explain it again?
You're making the mistake of using your personal perception as fact. It's a common misconception that Peter was "a loser" he wasn't, part of that myth stems from the FOX cartoon and the Raimi movies. Peter wasn't a loser , he was a loner, he could have had friends but chose not to
You're literally accusing me of doing something you're doing. You're using your bizarre perception.
A prickly loner can be described as a loser. You're just being narrow with your definitions of words. Which is based on your bizarre perception.
The stuff about Raimi is your projection and strawman because I never said any of that. Quit putting words into my mouth I never said.
My argument is you are playing semantics. Early Peter is a loser. You have a specific interpretation of it. Rainis loser Peter is a different type of loser.
>People think Flash bullied Peter for no reason but it was actually because Peter was a dick to people trying to be nice to him
It's really half and half. Sometimes Flash would literally provoke Peter for no reason or out of jealousy because Liz gained a crush on Peter
>Him being a loner and a dickhead complaining about the popular kids can be described as him being a loser.
Didn't know high school losers were capable of making costumes and casually beating grown adults committing crimes.
>know high school losers were capable of making costumes
Have you never heard of LARP?
Are you utterly moronic? A high school loser is just someone that doesn't fit in for x reason. Ditko Spider-Man was a loser, a different type to Raimi movie Spider-Man. His peers didn't all know he was a superhero. From their perspective he was a loser. From the audience perspective he is anything but.
the standard of all women not being allowed to show skin continues even in the animations, this way felicia won't even appear and if she does you already know what will happen, it seems that disney is run by muslims
what a moronic ass post
Super frickimg random
Plus that throws trouble in whether Hulu runaways is Canon
The show doesn't have to be anything, the character can exist anywhere
You're right, it doesn't have to be good and that's the direction they decided to go with
It should've been Chat
>cute loyal white woman
Are you fricking insane? How does that help push an agenda?
>Sophia "Chat" Sanduval
Is it her name sounds Spanish?
>white
>not blond and blue-eyed
Doesn't matter
White? I thought she was Asian?
I remember reading these back in elementary school. Good times, but Chat would sometimes make everything 10x worse.
>in argument with girl dating Flash Thompson
>screams "Oh yeah? My boyfriend is Spider-Man!"
>Peter intervenes, saying he'd prefer Thor
>Flash replies with his favourite hero
>Bros sign off and escort their girls away
>"I'm sorry Peter, I was just so mad...."
PATHETIC
No one can ever replace the true Mary Jane Watson.
I wanted it to be canon.
Wow they really love pairing off Peter with these younger female characters he can't get with the main universe.
That almost sounds like a fanfic
Why would two kids like these ever hang out with each other?
>X-Men 97 being made
>Despite the original actually having an ending
>The multiple Spider-man cartoons that didn't even get conclusions don't get shit
>Instead we get this trash
moronic.
sounds like a backdoor pilot for a runaways cartoon.
>Disney says its part of the MCU to hype up the show
>it’s another universe Peter
>not the Peter from the MCU movie
Why the frick would they try and trick people like this?
Good question
I think it’s the same reason as to why we never got any comics or shows depicting the adventures and missions the Avengers had between movies. And why What If? is regulated to only characters that are depicted already in the MCU. If you introduce a new “MCU version” of a character in another medium then any new director or writer that signs onto the MCU to make something is going to be beholden to that or find a work around or else your thing is no longer canon and loses a big part of its appeal like what happened with Agents of Shield. Likewise if you only use random goons and OCs and no actual supervillains from the comics no one is going to care. So this is basically the compromise. But honestly aside from the MCU connection fake out this is sounding pretty good ignoring the people still mad that an inner city Peter has brown class mates instead of going to a school that’s pre-civil rights segregated so that he can have an all-white cast.
>ignoring the people still mad that an inner city Peter has brown class mates instead of going to a school that’s pre-civil rights segregated so that he can have an all-white cast.
You have been btfo with statistics and facts multiple times ITT and you still cling to this cope lol that's sad
>the population of a city is less than half white and other half is minorities
>”hahaha see anon all of his classmates should be white!!”
Not really sure what you’re getting at here, anon. Plenty of other shows are set in places where the demographics aren’t depicted accurately with at most one brown person in the entire cast. Why is it sacrilege for an alternate reality Peter to go to a school with a higher population of brown kids?
>black people are 19% of Queens, 13% of America, 4% of the western world
>"haha see anon this means every single character that's not Peter should be black including previously existing white characters"
Not really sure what you’re getting at here, anon.
The post you made where you pasted in every single brown character even ones that made a very minor appearance is fricking insane. You’re acting like these are the only characters in the movies when there are plenty of white characters that are more important parts of the movies. Like you added that black guy in Peter’s class that maybe got 5 minutes total screen time over all three movies lol There’s reaching for straws and then there’s this. I genuinely question whether you’ve actually lived in or visited a diverse city in your entire fricking life.
This is what high schools look like anon, idk what to tell you
If "that's what they look like" is a valid argument then none of the characters should've been raceswapped because that's not what they look like
Do you spend a lot of time inside inner city high schools, anon?
That's not what Peter's supporting cast looks like
That image is decades old and is from a picture book, anon
That's what they look like anon, people don't suddenly switch races as they get older to match the demographics of their region
Those characters are from a universe that didn’t accurately reflect population demographics. The MCU movies do so some characters are different. Is that really a difficult concept?
>Those characters are from a universe that didn’t accurately reflect population demographics.
1. They did
2. Even if New York became 100% black overnight that still wouldn't be a valid reason to change them
we are slowly taking over and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Except one day declare a pogrom on your asses. Again.
Whatever helps you cope at night
Don't you have an abortion ban to be crying about or something? What's your majority leadership doing lmao
Not sure if you don’t actually live in America or were just home schooled so have never heard about it but neighborhood zoning affecting the population of schools is a thing in America. And a lot of more well-off white people live in suburbs and nicer city neighborhoods and so their schools are pretty white and typically much nicer than the schools in the less well off areas. The people left in those less nice areas are oftentimes brown. Those brown people oftentimes are not able to afford to move their kids into the nicer white neighborhoods. So the schools have a much higher percentage of brown kids compared to white kids even though the total population of white people in America or a given city is higher. There are still some white kids in those schools whose families don’t move into suburbs or put them into private schools but not nearly as many compared to the brown kids. Peter would absolutely fall into that category, This isn’t some woke SJW agenda. These are conditions that white people literally created and the show is depicting that more realistically than most shows on TV. You being ignorant of that aspect of American society is more on you than some sort of failing on the show or movie’s part.
Oh sorry anon I forgot to bring my explanation down to your level. Let’s try this again: White people don’t like living near brown people. While people move away from brown people. Brown people can’t afford to move away. The schools where brown people can’t afford to move away from end up having more brown people. The MCU Spidey show and movie are accurate.
Were you able to read that? I can’t simpler if you need me to, anon. I really want to make sure you understand this concept so you don’t go around looking like an ignorant c**t for the rest of your life <3
They are high school kids, nothing has been swapped besides the time period
And the races of multiple previously white characters
Those characters were just American kids though, they haven't been swapped this is just what Americans look like today.
Those characters are those characters and they used to be white and now they're not
It really doesn’t matter and if anything his supporting cast more accurately reflects what they’d actually look like irl. Marvel is supposed to be the “world outside your window” not “the world I wish I lived in because brown people scare me and are the reason I have no gf”
They don't exist IRL, they are fictional characters
Except their races
those characters were American kids, they are still American kids. Literally nothing has changed chud
Jesus frick you don't know a damn thing about how school districts function then. School population is typically based around the population of the county they reside in and last I checked Peter grew up in the suburbs, his school being majority brown would be unlikely
Anon, does Peter in the MCU live in the suburbs?
He doesn't live in the city until he starts college
He lives in an inner-city apartment with Aunt May for all three MCU movies. Did you watch any of the movies?
>School population is typically based around the population of the county
No? It’s based on the immediate neighborhoods that feed into a school. That’s why you have poor neighborhood schools being made up of more black and brown students and richer neighborhoods having schools that are predominantly white.
Yes moron, the county. Learn what you're talking about before speaking
It’s not based on the county you fricking dumbass. Look it up instead of just pulling shit out of your ass.
Jesus Christ you fricking moron districts are drawn up by county, not by neighborhood.
School districts are but individual schools are not. And the population of specific schools is based on the neighborhoods that surround them. Individual school districts don’t determine where a person goes to school. That’s why people move out of certain areas and into other neighborhoods within the same city. You can have rich and poor schools within the same district, you fricking idiot.
hilarious how you guys always like to parade statistics out as though that has any real impact on stuff like this. If someone was in a mostly non-white neighborhood that doesn't mean they will have all non white friends all of a sudden, the same holds in reverse. People go out of their way to choose who to be with. And apparently in this case that is what Peter chose.
The original guy defending raceswaps brought up statistics though, see
and
>Minorities should be the majority in all media simply because they exist
They’re definitely not the majority “in all media”. There’s just more representation now and you think that means whitoids are getting replaced.
How is it you people can be so dense? Have you never stopped to consider why most of our media and stories have humans in the first place when we could do anything else?
Their are two billlion Asians on the planet and two billion Black folk, soon to be 4 billion, they are not and have never been “minorities” it is wordplay to make you feel bad for acknowledging reality
They're minorities in my country homosexual. They can feel free to go back to being the majority in theirs
Why would they go back when they’re being pushed to become the majority in your country by your own government and major corporations
>White women realize they'd lose their status if white men go down.png
Yes, they're the majority in their own fricking countries, not the US or Europe. If you want be disengenious you're gonna have to learn how to hide it better
It’s a misnomer and you fricking know it, while you forcefully push the wrongs of the host countries you ignore the wrongs of the “minorities” because the media tells you to. This is what’s going to happen when the whites become minorities in their own homes, and you knowot
This thread is funny because you have people like
Trying to imply that majority brown schools don’t exist because of population statistics and therefore the student body shouldn’t be so brown. And then you have
Which has more brown adults than kids posted as some sort of argument too as if a good amount of people in that image aren’t just random people that pop up for a few minutes if screentime.
Then you finish it off with
About how brown people are invading a beautiful white nation and the media is trying to get you to let your guard down so that the white race will be eliminated. All of that ignoring the fact that many places in the US that have high minority populations are that way because white people moved out because they didn’t want to associate with minorities.
And because the MCU is depicting where Peter would live and the people he’d live around more accurately than the comics from the 60s as a reflection of historical segregation this is supposedly an example of the Hollywood liberal globalists exterminating the white race.
Seems to me you guys just don’t like seeing brown people and all and just want them not to exist lol
The mcu depiction of peters social life has been bland and not a great representation of how much of a dick he was. But the race bending shows how they have no idea what to do about creating new characters so just have black characters stunt on him to give homosexuals like you a conflated sense of importance
You just don’t like seeing quality content, hence why you cream yourself over shitty rehashes that do nothing but shit on the source material
Actually his social life has been way more of a focus in the MCU than other film series. Not all Peters have been dicks. MCU Peter is closer to Ultimate Peter who had more of a social life And nah I’m just not some loser who never leaves his bumfrick small town nor thin skinned as to start screeching about white replacement every time a non-white person shows up on a screen lol
It just doesn’t really matter so I therefore don’t shit myself over it. It makes sense in the context of this Peter’s time and world regardless of whatever population statistics you want to post without context, anon.
>It just doesn’t really matter
It does
>It makes sense in the context of this Peter’s time and world regardless of whatever population statistics you want to post without context, anon.
It doesn't
Ultimate peter sucked and had no friends outside of MJ and Harry and even then those depictions were bland and empty. Raimi got him down decent, where his social life suffered due to him being spider-man despite having a decent cast of supporting characters who were there for him. MCU threw away and pretense of his drama by eliminating the secret identity the moment they could. That’s why all of his supporting cast was bland and toothless, they were the safest possible characters to present to tasteless homosexuals like you
Anon, it sounds like you’re a sad frick who thinks every single depiction needs to be 1:1 with what you think Peter has to be and no other depiction or characterization is valid if it’s not just Harry and MJ. If things were up to you every Peter would be exactly the same. You seem like a boring homosexual
Not everything has to be one to one but they should at least be earnest and honest depictions of characters with a purpose beyond the current political message. But once again corporate prostitutes such as yourself enjoy the schedenfreud of the situation more that the work itself
MCU doesn't operate off traditional super hero cliches where identities are kept secret and operations are calndestine. In the MCU, super heroes are celebrities and watching them at work is like going to a live concert for your favorite band. Robert's Iron Man really set the stage for how capes would proceed onward in the MCU
It really explains why the movies pretty much ruined everything, like bringing gays like you into the conversation
Seems to me like you just love seeing white characters turned to black for no reason
Everyone is complaining about too many Black folk, though. Some people seem to want more hispanics if it means less Black folk and a handful are happy to see an asian female character. Stop lumping all brown people together.
ORANGE MAN BAD
>Norman Osborn is black now
AAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNDDDDDDD ANOTHER ONE'S GONE AND ANOTHER ONE'S GONE ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST
Confirmed MCU Norman?
My dick doesn't care
I will self insert into Peter "self-inserting" into Nico and there's nothing you ricechuds will be able to do about it.
What is it with the school nerd being besties with the school goth?
Dunno it's accurate to my experience
Were you the goth or the nerd?
Nerd obviously but I was friends with like a dozen goth girls and I barely initiated the interactions, they kept inviting me and shit
Where they nice?
They were nice to me, at least to my face, but didn't get along as much with the normalgays, if you're asking about attractiveness, also yeah
Looks like shit.
I hope Peter keeps his glasses in this one.
He looks better with them on.
This triggers me.
Probably not in the way intended. Nico is from Cali. That's the fricking point that all the supes were in NY, so the Pride set up shop in Cali and were so good at it, they were believe to be a myth
Frick Cali. It always hogs the spotlight in tv/movies.
No L.A and S. F hog all the movies
>queens majority white
>morons think it's majority black for some reason
Is this it’s own show/continuity?
Disney is claiming it’s in the MCU. But it can’t be in the movie MCU with Tom Holland given all the characters and plot holes. So if it’s in the MCU it’s another universe aka it’s own story.
With the multiverse bullshit it can technically be in the MCU
Yes it can be but they were trying to trick people into thinking it was our MCU Peter not a multiverse one. They were hyping this up to be out Peters origin story.
Finally synergy pays off.
At first, I just looked at the characters, without reading anything and thought this is a sequel to Daria where she becomes an FTM troony and Jane Lane is her girlfriend.
They love giving nerds goth love interest. I love it too, this is a positive change. First Marvel in a while I'm semi-interested in.
>Nico is Peter's best friend
>Despite Harry being in the show
>Not to mention, the whole premise is Peter being mentored by Norman
???
Anon, look at the MCU (and Star Wars) anything they shat out recently is just bait&switch to shill the next thing. She's probably there to gauge interest in a Runaways show
I know each one of the one ways had a different superpower origin because of the parents so which superpower source does this go get that form in the original comics?
>native american mythological characters should be depicted as white because white people are now the majority on native american lands
Boy I hope this thread is one big joshing contest because otherwise having beliefs like these would be concerning
>The religious figures of an ethnic population being turned white because more white people took over their lands
>the supporting characters of a comic book character made black/brown to accurately reflect the neighborhood they’re from because the white people moved to the suburbs or put their kids in private schools
>”these things are the same to me”
Anon, I’m sorry to tell you this but you’re a fricking moron.
>every fictional native character is religious
That's terribly racist of you anon
>whites swarming non-white areas BAD
>non-whites swarming white areas GOOD
Jesus do you even hear yourself
White settlers exterminating natives and eliminating their culture by forced reeducation isn’t the same thing as brown people moving into formerly all white neighborhoods and white people moving away
>White settlers exterminating natives
Myth. Settlers only fought natives when they were attacked. The US bought land from natives who traded for shiny beads and rum and killed the ones who decided to stay and attack settlers
Yeah man giving natives blankets infected with smallpox was just a fun trade. Take this misinformation homosexualry leave or stormfront or wherever the frick you came from.
It happened once homie, the conquistadores did it more. Besides even if you include the 100 million natives killed accidentally by diseases brought by the Vikings, the scientific and medical advances made by white people in America have saved BILLIONS of more lives than they’ve taken. If you choose to hold the sins and sinners against an entire group than you have to hold the saints and good deeds against them as well
Do you think they understood the concept of germs and immunities back then moron?
They're both forced displacement
No one forced white people to be racist and not want to coexist with other types of people
No one forced Natives to lose and fail to repel colonizers
Why can't we get this Spider-man?
How do you want your new Spider-man cartoon, senpai?
Make spider man a functional autist who can appear normal most of the time but has a meticulous way in which he does his stuff. He’s ok with occasional team ups, but if anyone tries to regularly help him without his permission, he will flip out on them.
So....... is he just never getting back with MJ? What the frick is up with that?
This is supposed to be a prequel set before Tony finds him, so him having villains makes even less sense
>prequel set
isn't freshman year referencing freshman in college
It could also mean freshman in high school
Anon diversity has always been pushed by governments and corporations onto whites to make communities less connected and people easier to control
Random but eh he was with that Asian oc in The new animated series so meh always pairing Peter with random ass women, relatable nerd my ass homie gets more ass than toilet seat
Spider-Man was never supposed to be a relatable guy, he was supposed to be a self-insert fantasy.
Spider-man was supposed to be about the growth of peter Parker as a person, these constant prequels and killing him do nothing for that story
Well that’s what happens when a character is corporate owned, It’s why invincible doesn’t have this problem and he got to grow up
Niko is for Karolina!
You know, what? Sure. Peter gets along with everyone.
Isn't one big major part of her character background is supposed to be that she lives on the West Coast.
They just picked a random magic character of the Marvel Wiki, anon.
whites definitely took the L this year with thor and doctor strange being mid. not a good look for them...
Wakanda Forever is probably going to be the worst Marvel movie yet so it'll balance out
We like her.
Speak for yourself, i want spider-man characters in my fricking spider-man show.
How much porn are you guys betting there will be?
Why would some boring nerd be best friends with the alt girl who probably gets high in the bathroom and ditches everyday?