This is George's way of trying to justify his shitty scripts.

This is George's way of trying to justify his shitty scripts.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Saw this thread yesterday. Get new material

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >relevant topic on a large discussion board gets more than one thread

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >relevant topic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We have to wait until Lucas opens his mouth again

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was a childish adventure movie. That's not the problem. A good childish adventure movie will be appealing to an adult's inner child. What George Lucas never understood is that he had lost his inner child and became an adult imagining what children might like.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is a profound post.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What is this creature?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          there are threads dedicated to him and his ways

          [...]

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What George Lucas never understood is that he had lost his inner child and became an adult imagining what children might like.
      Huh. That's a good point.
      I would also say he got lost in the green screen effects and fixing everything in post.

      >it's a kids movie
      This is such a cope. Star Wars BECAME a "kids movie", but the original film that started it off wasn't, and you can say the same about Empire. Regardless, you can still make a "kids movie" that can also appeal to adults.

      Naw. Star Wars were always movies for kids. They were just BETTER movies period in the original trilogy.
      Being a good movie and being a kids movie are not mutually exclusive.
      I never understood why being a kids movie means a movie has to be bad. Why would we feed our children bad films? Its like feeding kids junk food instead of teaching them to eat healthy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The biggest issue is that the ot had lots of creative impute by other people and George was rained in by the studio
        That wasn’t true with the prequels and it showed
        The prequels really just feel like long expensive toy advertisements

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, like he became more concerned about special effects and freaking marketing.

      And also he got surrounded by yes men. All he had to do was ask one of his directors pals for critical input and change some things from the basic story.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a kids movie
    This is such a cope. Star Wars BECAME a "kids movie", but the original film that started it off wasn't, and you can say the same about Empire. Regardless, you can still make a "kids movie" that can also appeal to adults.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong, it was always "intended for 12 year old boys" what appealed to adults was the special effects and how different and authentic the universe felt.

      And no having "adult themes" like politics and war doesn't make it for adults anymore than GI Joe or Transformers is.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Wrong, it was always "intended for 12 year old boys"
        Star Wars had way more violence and adult themes than any film made for 12 year olds. George can say what he wants, but Star Wars was a film for young adults, not 12 year olds.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I never quite appreciated it at the time, but the prequels are genuinely "kino" in the sense of them visually being very aesthetic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but the original film that started it off wasn't
      It was aimed at the same audience as Flash Gordon serials in the 30s, and that was absolutely boys/young teens.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There’s a big difference between media aimed at young teenagers (that can also still appeal to adults), and media aimed at 5 year olds. That’s all Star Wars has been since the lame and ugly Clone Wars cartoon, it went from being primarily aimed at young people and liked be all ages, to just being a lame cartoon for literal babies.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          *liked by

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          George Lucas literally consulted with child psychologists when making Empire Strikes Back and gave Luke a robot hand because he was told that children might freak out if the movie ended and Luke still didn't have a hand.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong, it was always "intended for 12 year old boys" what appealed to adults was the special effects and how different and authentic the universe felt.

      And no having "adult themes" like politics and war doesn't make it for adults anymore than GI Joe or Transformers is.

      >Wrong, it was always "intended for 12 year old boys"
      You're both wrong. It was always intended for 10 year old boys. Go back and watch old interviews with George and see the recent interview with Marcia Lucas. George saying 12 year olds is a very recent thing. While the intent is the same, that's how we weed out you zoomer parrot homosexuals who take what they hear and run with it like they know everything.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >kids' movie

      >it's a kids movie

      Always was for children, since 1977. He's been saying it for 47 years. SW fanboys manchildren are truly embarrassing. I suspect it is a byproduct of consuming all the shitty Star Wars side-media that tries really hard to be "grown-up" and edgy. But Star Wars was never really that. The same people say that Andor is "true Star Wars" - when it couldn't be more of an antithesis to that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He may have wanted it since then, but that's not the movie that got made.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The first is absolutely a kids film

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All of them are. They are PG movies.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes moron but I’m replying to somebody that said the original specifically wasn’t

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like the prequels could have gone into the political aspects even more despite this being a common criticism rather the criticism is that the politics are vaguely defined on screen and seem nebulous and boring however if they were more compelling and immediately important that would provide more drama and excitement for the outcome of these events we can even see a deleted scene from Revenge of the Sith where Mon Mothma is talking about starting a rebellion this doesn't make sense during the prequel era but it does show people considering the political implications of their actions.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >kids' movie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's a kids movie

      >not a sk-sk-skelington!?!
      Grow up. The goonies had skeletons.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tell it to the droids burning Jawa bodies.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did the Goonies have a b***h in a sadomasochistic outfit?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Natalie gave me a complex

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why don't any of the newer star wars movies have skeletons?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because they're for easily scared and entertained manchildren more than ever.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You could film a scene where a kid gets chased by adults and escapes them where it doesn't look like a bad Monty Python comedy sketch.
            They did not manage to do that here.
            Frick's sake. This looks like a YouTube comedy bit filmed in someone's back yard in Minnesota.
            Why do all these shows look so fricking cheap?!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Why do all these shows look so fricking cheap?!
              Talent shortage.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They should be able to go faster than that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro, you're talking to the zoomers who need Warning labels on The Muppet Show.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and need rebooted Muppet Babiess where Muppets come out as trans and non-binary

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Quit blaming all zoomers for shit that the upper class do. Working class zoomers thinks that shit's gay as frick too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >me, 37 years old when jango loses his head

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not even graphic and we don't even see his severed head sans helmet. Lightsabers cauterizing wounds were an easy way to keep it PG.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > children's film.
    > Taxes and trade routes are discussed.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a kids movie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >kids movie

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You realize kids tales have for centuries full of murder and death, right? It's just in post war 1950s America did we sanitize children's entertainment to be "PG-rated".
        I remember getting a Red Ridding Hood book as a kid that was less sanitized than most versions and the wolf ate Red and the huntsman cut her out of the wolf's stomach.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He kisses his sister bro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a "kids' movie" in the sense that it's a classic adventure hero's journey about a young man, not that it's My Little Pony or something

      It's slightly more serious than something like Pirates of the Caribbean, but you'd probably call those "kids' movies"

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's not wrong, when was the last time you watched the Plinkett reviews? Mixed with correct concerns you have Mike outright getting the plot wrong and assuming shit based on his growing up with the OT.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    20-60 year olds loved star wars in 1977 when they weren't 10
    garbage take from george just like his garbage movies

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Children's movie.

    George: You know something Natalie, we need your shirt to rip and expose your belly for the scenes in which you are chained.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Teenage boys are still children, dad needs something to look at.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Natalie was the only good thing about the goyquels

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah what sort of weirdo 13 year old boy would like that

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Star homosexuals BTFO

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > children's movie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Children's movie.

      George: You know something Natalie, we need your shirt to rip and expose your belly for the scenes in which you are chained.

      I watched those as a kid. Thank you, George, I thought Natalie was very pretty, and gave me a warm feeling inside.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. George was turning boys into men.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.
      What, did your parents attempt to turn you into a gay?

      Did the Goonies have a b***h in a sadomasochistic outfit?

      >that
      >"sadomasochistic"
      Holy zoom zoom

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    very true but in 6th grade you either like Maul or Annakin, the kids who thought Annakin was cool were pre ejaculate babies

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a kids movie, that's why it most of it focuses on politics and trade disputes KEKW.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a kids movie, that's why it most of it focuses on politics and trade disputes KEKW.
      THIS.

      George's ex-wife even said what we've ALL said - "who is this film even for?". TPM was all over the fricking place. Slapstick over the top humor with Jar Jar, literal FART JOKES, Senate disputes, Trade disputes, and just terrible fricking writing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's All Ages. E for Everyone. Marcia's just b***hing about him like all ex-wives.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any star wars movie is for kids because star wars markets itself to kids. But if you strip it down to its parts, what about the prequels is something kids would enjoy, if the movies werent already star wars movies?

    Besides Jar-Jar I guess, I think he is clearly something that appeals to kids. A funny looking comic relief alien is something kids like.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most of prequels criticisms came from nerds being mad that george ruined their headcanon. they're still shit movies though but that doesn't mean that yoda can't have a lightsaber

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >most of prequels criticisms came from nerds being mad that george ruined their headcanon.

      Remember how everyone parroted RLM about how Obi-Wan didn't wear "Jedi robes", but just regular desert clothes? Whilst forgetting Yoda wore the exact same kind? On a swampland?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And Force Ghost Anakin having them too.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does George think all the people who prefer the OT are in their 50’s-60’s now?
    I was a kid when the prequels came out and liked TPM but even back then I realized Attack of the Clones was complete shit and that plus the terrible clone wars cartoon was the end of Star Wars being good

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a children's thing. That's why the writing is shit
    You know you can write a good script and make it for children at the same time? Children are not a defense against criticisms

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You seem to be implying this has a good script. I watched this when I was like 23 for the first time near the start of the pandemic with a couple roommates and can tell ya it's just as cringe and gay as any kids show. They just have superpowers and rule34 so homosexuals on this board think it's good

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Jedi aren’t super powered beings
        morons

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pic unrelated

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holy fricking shit this post hits the nail on the head.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What does age have to do with good writing?

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >kids love political intrigue
    huh?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, I watched TNG religiously as a 10yo kid.

      https://i.imgur.com/KVC0ehv.jpeg

      This is George's way of trying to justify his shitty scripts.

      >kids' movie
      >has a scene where the protag massacres a bunch of children
      George really knew his audience.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BUT I AM NOT A KID!
    (While I act like a kid throwing a tantrum)

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was exactly 10 years old when TPM was released. A couple weeks beforehand, mom took me to the video store and rented the original trilogy so we watched it that day, and i wasn't that into it. We went to see TPM in the theater, and i just didn't like the movie (she didn't either)

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >its for kids so it can be terrible
    I genuinely feel bad for him at this point. He’s a complete shell of his former self and he doesn’t even understand why anyone liked his movies to begin with.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >its for kids so Jar Jar Binks can be in it
      Correct, glad we could come to an understanding

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My uncle took me to a midnight showing of Episode 1 when I was in the 5th grade, and other than the Darth Maul fight I thought it was pretty shitty, and I was a huge Star Wars fan. That sentiment was very common among my age group.

    Ultimately, it's just a coping mechanism on George's part. The original Star Wars trilogy was obviously wildly popular with kids, they were selling AT-AT toys and TIE Fighter games to kids like me for movies that were released before I was born. It was actually probably the most successful movie of all time for that demographic, at least in terms of merch sales. So George decided to widely change tone to appeal to kids who were already hugely into Star Wars? Doesn't make a lot of sense. Franky a lot of the time these people don't remember what it was like to be a kid, last a VERY young age no kid actually likes shit that is very obviously 'for kids', people were watching Spawn and making fun of kids who watched Barney, but guys like George just forget or never got it.

    In any case, all this revisionist history from meme zoomers is really gay, and it's dumb as frick to watch stuff you were alive for and witnessed with your own eyes get rewritten because some homosexual tablet zombie found a subreddit. If facts are this mutable now, the future is bleak. These morons can and will be convinced of anything.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The original Star Wars trilogy was not simply popular with kids, it was *made* for kids, dumbass.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s made for kids
        Then why are you, a grown ass man, defending them and crying whenever people criticize them? By your own logic you’re own you’re a stunted man child for having any sort of interest in these movies after the age of 18.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because you're a functionally illiterate ESL, or maybe simply stupid, you've missed a really simple point. I'll try to restate the point in fewer syllables in the hopes that you understand now:
        The prequels have a widely noted shift in tone. This is explained as "appealing to kids". But kids already loved the OT, and spent a lot of time pissing on the prequels. Therefore a shift in tone wasn't necessary, and actually counterproductive. Thinking Star Wars needed to do something different to attract a young audience is so asinine that people smarter than you recognize it as a lie told after-the-fact in an effort to disguise and excuse failure.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The prequels have a widely noted shift in tone.
          They really don't. You're reaching and playing a willfully ignorant moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They do, it was universally noted and accepted for over a decade before you and tablet addled kids like you found a subreddit where people pretending to ironically like the prequels, then irony decay set in and you started taking it seriously.

            In fact, George's claims that the PT was made for children began as a response to this, the general exchange was "these movies are worse", and he'd cover himself by saying they were different because he was making them for his kids this time, as though he hadn't sold an X-Wing toy to every boy in America for twenty years.

            There's a lot of things at play here, but the root cause almost always tracks back to you people just being kind of stupid. You don't have the lived history and perspective to really participate in the conversation, all you have are gay memes and discord culture, paired to a moron's confidence about his assumptions and revisions.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >In fact, George's claims that the PT was made for children began as a response to this, the general exchange was "these movies are worse", and he'd cover himself by saying they were different because he was making them for his kids this time, as though he hadn't sold an X-Wing toy to every boy in America for twenty years.
              No, it's the truth and manchildren are still unable to get over it which is why you have those 50 years old boomers like Stoklasa shitting up the prequels for not being like the originals despite the originals having shitton of comedic moments played up for children.

              C-3PO and R2-D2 were insufferable in the OT if you have time to rewatch it. Then there's the ewoks who beat the stormtroopers single-handedly. 4 is a kid movie about adventure, 5 is a teen movie at best and 6 is a downright toddler movie on par with the absolute worst the prequels had produced in terms of moronic comedy like Jar Jar

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Stoklasa
                I only know who this person is because of the subhumans like you who are constantly ranting about him. You've let memes on a dying website take a shit in your brain.

                If 3PO were as insufferable as Jar Jar, people would have hated the character. There was no nostalgia for Star Wars in 1977. People hated Jar Jar the moment they saw him. It simply isn't comparable, and this is obvious to anyone with an IQ over 80 and an age over 30. You're either arguing over events you didn't witness, weren't smart enough to comprehend, or both. But either way, your version of reality doesn't align with actual shared reality. The negative discourse around the prequels and Jar Jar didn't just spring out of thin air for no reason at all. George isn't still desperately defending himself twenty years later for no reason at all. I've certainly never heard him need to defend C3PO, Yoda, and Ewoks the way he's needed to lie and obscure about Jar Jar and Count Dookie Tyrant Bad Guy. Your ideas just don't align with what any thinking person can see and has seen for years.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If 3PO were as insufferable as Jar Jar, people would have hated the character
                People absolutely hated C-3PO. The reason you don't know that is because you're a zoomers and back then C-3PO wasn't really important in the grand scheme of things. Everyone was simply amazed by the special effects. Jar Jar, in contrast, took a bigger brunt mainly because by the time of Phantom Menace SW wasn't all that special anymore. People had already seen movies with even better special effects and the prequels didn't really amaze with anything in that department even though ironically now they look better than 90% of the stuff out there since the CGI has regressed heavily sicne then.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People absolutely hated C-3PO
                Not really, certainly not to the degree of Jar Jar. I've never seen crybullying redditors make little documentaries about the horrors the actor went through because someone online called him a homosexual. I've never seen George feel the need to go on a twenty years long apology tour for C3PO, which continues to this day.

                What is actually happening is that people hate Jar Jar, and commonly list him as a reason for the prequels being worse. You wish to defend the prequels, either out of stupidity or a desire to "pretend" to engender human interaction when people call you dumb on a website. In order to defend the prequels, you attempt to draw connections between the problems of the prequels and the OT, however thin and weak they might be. "Oh, a character sometimes used for levity...eureka!" says the moron.

                It's a transparent argument tactic one often sees from morons like yourself, because it's the sort of thing that would work on you, and you don't have the theory of mind required to realize that it won't work on others, or perhaps lack the intelligence to recognize the comparison as poor.

                "You said movie X was quipy shit, but movie Y had a joke too, that means they're the same!"

                Being this stupid and this inarticulate must be the worst hell. You have my condolences.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People absolutely hated C-3PO.
                Yes, because he's effete british. How could you not hate him?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You’re not going to get through to them. George Lucas could come out today and say that all prequel fans should be burned alive for having bad taste and prequel fans would still be sucking his dick as the wood for the fires is collected. They genuinely are mind broken by the fact people shit on the prequels. I have never seen a fanbase regularly lie and engage in such high levels of cognitive dissonance just to defend something. They’re an inherently dishonest group.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Rian defended the prequels back when everyone was trashing them, you genius.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not wrong. The difference being, I liked Jar Jar as a kid and not as an adult, but the OT doesn't have an equivalent. Maybe the Ewoks but I never liked the Ewoks.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's absolutely a kids movie with the exception of 3. The OT are also kids movies with arguably the exception of 5.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's absolutely a kids movie with the exception of 3

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The OT and 5 also had a shitload of comedic moments.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Adult movies have comedy bits too, dude.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he is right though , if you buy funkopops and watch star wars to this day , you are a manchild.
    i quit all the scifigarbage a long time ago and am eating good this way.
    nothing good will come out of disney ever again.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a kids movie
    >TRADE DISPUTE DISRUPTS THE TAXATION OF TRADE ROUTES!
    it's for 10 year olds
    >WILL YOU DEFER YOUR MOTION TO ALLOW A COMMISION TO EXPLORE THE VALIDITY OF YOUR ACCUSATIONS?
    I literally had 5 year olds in my mind when I was writing it
    >MASTER ANAKIN, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
    >It's always been specifically for babies, and no one else
    >STAR WARS REVENGE OF THE SITH, THE FIRST STAR WARS TO BE RATED PG-13 DUE TO STRONG GRAPHIC VIOLENCE
    aawww look at little Billy, he loves Star Wars 🙂
    >Anakin: I HATE YOU!!!!!!

    Imagine defending this piece of shit hack fraud. Lol. You can fool other fools George, you their are those of us who will always remember you as the pathetic, fake hack you've been ever since you got lucky with star Wars 77

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >autism
      >land before time is for adults bro.

      You all wonder why you're barely functional adults. I'll give you a hint, if any children's media is capable of scaring you for life, then you never had a chance.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Since you enjoy garbage slop so much you must also love Disneys trilogy. Where's your defence for that? Would love to see what mental gymnastics need to be performed to justify why one piece of shit is gross to eat and the other is delicious.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >assert Star Wars is for children
          >"y-you must be a sequel supporter!"
          Are all star wars fans this redarded?

          Yeed for life

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly, my point proven. You're a fan of a garbage human being in George Lucas, a hypocrite and Liar who's humiliated by his failures in the prequels so he has to rewrite history to pretend like they were exclusively made for babies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like children don’t know what hatred is,

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i unapologize

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lifetip: just because something is cool doesn't mean it's good. drugs for example, you ever tried cocaine, meth, molly, or marijuana? all fantastic experiences, but THEY'RE NOT GOOD FOR YOU
    YOU'RE WORSHIPPING LIGHTSABERS AND ACTORS WHO HATE THEIR ROLES

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are man children obsessed with such an average franchise.
    I checked IMDB
    3 movies have over 8 (the original three)
    2 movies have over 7 (one sequel and one prequal)
    4 movies have bellow 7 (two sequels and two prequals)

    han solo flick has 6.9. rogue one has 7.8

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The prequels were shit children's movies

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The original trilogy were movies for everyone, and generally well liked enough to leave a legacy of new and old fans for decades.

    The prequels simply weren't that good. Whatever audience George thought he was aiming for, it took the diarrhea of the sequels to make the prequels look watchable by comparison.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >grew up watching and loving the OT on VHS
    >Phantom Menace comes out when I'm 8 years old
    >watch and enjoy the prequel trilogy as a kid
    >rewatch throughout my teens, the OT gets better but the PT gets worse over time, until it's mostly just a joke now
    >get married in my late 20s, my wife has never seen Star Wars
    >show her OT first and she loves it
    >Show her PT next and she is legitimately mad about how bad it is, almost doesn't finish Phantom Menace once she realizes Jar Jar is sticking around, during AotC and RotS she complains the whole time about how Anakin acts like Elliot Roger and nothing feels like Star Wars
    Wild how childhood nostalgia is so powerful it can convince someone who loved both to grow out of the PT and someone who grew up with neither never like the PT at all. Must be the Plinkert reviews.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're so full of shit, dude.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based on what?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Must be the Plinkert reviews.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was in high school when the first prequel came out. Friends and I were in denial for a week or so about how bad it was. Seeing Attack of the Clones in college was a bit more tolerable, but still disappointing. Star Wars deserved better. Maybe for late 90s early 2000s movies they were decent, but this was fricking Star Wars. It should have been way way better.
      Also my friend's sister kept going on about shipping Anakin and Obi Wan after seeing Attack Of The Clones,.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >my friend's sister kept going on about shipping
        She simply can't understand friendship. Few women can.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair, men sexualize female characters plenty too. It's when they can't separate their sexual fantasy from the actual story is when it becomes a problem.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's when they can't separate their sexual fantasy from the actual story is when it becomes a problem.
            That's still a minority of guys though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Star Wars deserved better. Maybe for late 90s early 2000s movies they were decent, but this was fricking Star Wars. It should have been way way better.
        Your expectations were way too fricking high. These are pulp adventure movies, dude.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Maybe for late 90s early 2000s movies they were decent, but this was fricking Star Wars. It should have been way way better.
        A number of blockbusters at the time are much better than the prequels. Some of them even came out the very same springs/summers as the prequels.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >A number of blockbusters at the time are much better than the prequels. Some of them even came out the very same springs/summers as the prequels.
          Then why are there still daily discussions on this board about the prequels and not those movies?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because they're Star Wars.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Manchild cope

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The most damning part is that George tried to get Speilberg to direct the prequels, but he refused to do so because of all the trouble George had caused with the guild. George himself knew he wasn't a good director, and didn't even direct most of the OT. To watch people now pretend like he's a great and visionary director who was simply misunderstood is crazy. He doesn't even think that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The most damning part is that George tried to get Speilberg to direct the prequels, but he refused to do so because of all the trouble George had caused with the guild.

      Elaborate

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All SW films done by him were indie except for ANH. Dude didn't want to frick with Hollywood and funded the movies out of his pocket. That's why he focused a lot on merch to recoup costs. Lucas had it in his contract for ANH that he'd get ALL of the rights after its release. FOX didn't care because they didn't think it'd be a hit. Oops.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is a personal thought I've had for a while: I think Spielberg is jealous of Lucas and Star War.I'm not saying Spielberg hates Lucas.I have always believed that Spielberg wanted to make a space opera and Lucas beat him to it and hit the table with Star War.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            George and Steven were the poster children of new Hollywood

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Other way around. George wanted to be a great filmmaker, and instead he's mostly known as a guy who shit the bed. He grew to really resent Star Wars.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Remember how Spielberg kept rejecting all of George's shitty ideas for the Indiana Jones movies? Ideas like having a virgin princess instead of shorts in the temple of doom. Or how about taking Indiana Jones to a haunted mansion?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >didn't even direct most of the OT
      He basically did. Dude played backseat director to the ones he hired to do so.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People forget chairman George already pissed off a bunch of people by “fixing” the ot and removing the originals from circulation

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >forget
        Most of the people here have literally never seen the actual films, only ever the edits. And they've actually gotten worse, the scene of Vader killing the emperor has some goof ass "nooooooo!" now.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kids did enjoy it
    Older fans hated it

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't it obvious? It's not like the 2000s didn't have better adventure movies with a large audience of children. The prequels look even worse when you remember what they were up against.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how come the adults in 1977 didnt hate the original movies for being trashy kids flicks?

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It seems like the originals had a certain British Pathe Films style approach toward the fantasy lands they were depicting, which often appeared more dominant than the action scenes. The OT spent some effort making you believe in the reality of these foreign worlds and how they functioned, and this was increased under the direction of Irvin Kershner (who was overqualified really by specializing in cultural diplomacy with the USIA). The prequels still had a lingering trace of the Pathe Films style, but were focused more on the generic actions of racing, coliseum battles, and aerial dogfights respectively. The OT could be described as being more anecdotal, or 'padded', more of a Day-In-The-Life narrative, it might've been called 'A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Death Star'... the prequels in contrast couldn't specialize in either anecdote or specific plot detail.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I watch movies for entertainment, dude.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But you could entertain people primarily by structuring a movie as an elaborate interplanetary tourism video. The point is if you kept only the necessary scenes in the OT you would have a lot more film left on the cutting room floor, and this illustrates something that is lost in the economy of modern film, a particular quality of incident that goes beyond the consideration of the genre form.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    George Lucas has kids right? Has he ever sat down and watched kids movies with them?

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Y'all say this shit and then suck his balls whenever disney does a retcon

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I saw Phantom Menace in theaters when I was 10 and thought it sucked

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I have never understood this meme that has been endlessly repeated in the last few years about how 'Phantom Menace was for kids and they loved it'. As a kid I didn't even find it worth rewinding the tape, it was so dull and weird

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's right.

    They are teenagers at best movies. Anyone older whinging about star wars are man babies who need to grow the frick up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you whining about people making fun of them than?

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, he is absolutely right. SW has always been a from the book hero´s journey for family and kids. It´s never even tried to hide the fact that it´s a story either, which is why every movie starts with a big wall of text.

    People that want to make it "more realistic" by including more real world politics on it or want to make a "John Wick SW movie" really don´t understand what SW is at all.

    Lucas vision for it is the only valid one too. I don´t give a flying frick about your expanded universes. SW is only the 6 movies. That´s it.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's right, the originals are also kids movies. They're good kids movies. The prequels are bad kids movies.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I saw Phantom Menace in theaters as a kid and thought it sucked. I watched it as an adult years later and still thought it sucked

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the creator had to say star wars is for kids twice now, why cant people accept that?

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Being a Childrens movie it means it has to be garbage.
    This is what lead to the current state of films. Specially Disney movies.

    What is bad about the prequels has nothing to do with being for Children or Adults.That a gigantic Cope.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking Pinocchio was made for Children.

    %3ACinematicClips
    That doesn't mean anything

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I watched those films as a kid though, and thought they were worse than the OT
    I remember how excited I was to see Phantom Menace at the midgnight screening, I was 9 years old
    I left disappointed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I was 9 years old
      >midnight screening

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How's that Gen Z rejection of your kids movie working out for ya' Georgie Boy?

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    George is right about everything.

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was a kid when I watched the Phantom Menace. I liked it. But even my kid brain knew Attack of The Clones was trash.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Lucas allowed to criticize the fans but not Disney?

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He always saw Star Wars as being for children, but in the OT there were other people who lifted it up and told him when his ideas were stupid.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why are people so perturbed that star wars is for kids? like they're embarrassed?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's manchildren who can't cope with the fact that they've built their whole identity around kid's movies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They think that “for kids” means the movies are meaningless and have no merit. This causes their rotted brains to malfunction and get angry. They don’t fathom that it’s possible for them to like something that was designed for young people and just accept it, ironically, like an adult.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why can’t fans accept that they are fantasy stories designed to spark imagination in children but just enjoy them for the story and themes anyway? People do this for The Hobbit and other stories. In fact fantasy as a whole is a very imaginative and childlike genre.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Frick them kids" - George Lucas, children's film director

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I grew up with both the PT and OT and view them as the same thing. So yeah I was a kid and they appealed to me. I still like Star Wars as an adult because I am capable of analyzing the themes and character motivations in a way I wasn't able to fully grasp before. George himself additionally said they were for everyone to enjoy. Luke and Anakin were my favorite characters, as a young boy I related to their struggles the most. I'm sure young girl fans related to Leia or Padme the most.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with Luke is that he doesn't have the right look to be the optimistic and loving older brother figure he's written to be. Take pic related as an example. Dude's literally that, but has the right look to make it all work. Tall, handsome and in excellent shape. He's also not boring.

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mark Hamill was horribly miscast as Luke, he's too much of a little b***h

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen this said for both Hamill and Christensen and don't really get it. In their teenage / young adult phase they're supposed to be a little whiny.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hayden's taller and better looking.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Padmé call for a vote of no confidence in Chancellor Valorum?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To elect a more powerful Chancellor that could resolve the situation.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But he doesn't become Chancellor until the end of the movie, after the situation was resolved. Wait, why was Padmé allowed to randomly attack the Trade Federation without any evidence of prior hostilities? I don't understand. Is everyone in these movies moronic?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pay attention to the movie.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why, does something important happen?

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    star wars was always a bad Dune ripoff.

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Manchildren have b***hed about prequels for 20 years ruining multiple lives in the process and forcing Georgie to sell the entire franchise to the Devil himself

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's calling out those gen x'er manchilds lol

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