This is my favorite movie of all time.
I will never get tired of watching it.
It is comfy. It is eerie. It is funny. It is riveting.
I love it with all my heart.
The book is nowhere near as engaging as this is.
Jack is a way better character in this than the self-insert King wrote.
I cannot sing this movie's praises enough.
If you dislike The Shining, you can't even be corrected.
You're doomed to retardation.
It's as simple as that.
whats with the dog man? you seem to love the Shining so its fair to assume you understand that part?
It's a bear.
It's adapted from a scene in the book where a man in a dog mask is described to have been a gay pimp in the 20s at the Overlook.
But in the movie they changed it to a bear.
Rob Ager thinks it's a multi-layered reference to incest abuse.
I personally think Kubrick just liked the idea, tweaked it, and added it in as a weird, off-putting unexplainable moment during the montage of showing the ghosts in the Overlook.
Alright, I'll watch your movie
Is a gay pimp a pimp for rent boys or a regular whore pimp who happens to be gay?
I remember him being a pimp who also prostituted himself to gay men.
But maybe I'm misremembering the pimp part.
I've only read the book twice. I just could never love it as much as the movie.
But I'm one hundred percent positive that he was gay and prostituted himself.
So if my memory doesn't fail me, I'd say the former.
This is my favorite horror film of all time, which pretty much makes it my favorite movie of all time. Both the film and novel are masterpieces even with all their differences.
He was the billionaire Horace Derwent's fuckboy. Derwent grew weary of him and kicked his ass to the curb, so the homosexual begged Derwent to take him back and let him attend the Overlook's opening night celebrities. Derwent maliciously told him to come as a dog and then spent the night humiliating him in front of all the partygoers. The homosexual ended up an hero'ing in one of the Overlook's rooms which is why he's a ghost there.
That's it!
I knew it had something to do with gay sex.
The bearman scene would be kino if there was no zoom in the zoom in makes it campy prove me wrong
I can see why it would be perceived as campy.
But I think the quick zoom accentuates the shock-factor of the scare.
I actually like how Kubrick makes jumpscares more of a camera movement rather than a noise or character.
Controlling the viewer's perception is the ultimate tool of a filmmaker, so literally throwing us at frightening images is effective, at least to me.
I love how unexplained it is.
I hate how so many movies make EVERYTHING unexplainable.
Kubrick had a way of making certain things accessible and certain things opaque. And it felt earned every time.
>But I think the quick zoom accentuates the shock-factor of the scare.
I guess but it sacrifices some of the staying power imo. You have a great shot that is far enough away to trigger the uncanny valley effect, zooming in kind of just gets rid of that effect. He didn't do that with the twins, he kept the camera far away there and I think thats why it stuck with people more. I would have preferred it if he kept the shot this far and they just turned their heads toward wendy
I can see why someone would prefer that.
But Kubrick also had a closer shot of the twins, and that is what most people remember.
The far-away shot is mostly used as an example of framing.
>it’s campy
That was the point. When the hotel reveals itself to her the horror becomes campier to the point where there’s a giant room full of skeletons
I kind of like how the hotel isn't really focused on harming the Torrances per-se, but is more focused on getting them to harm each other.
Even Danny getting choked was solely meant to turn Wendy on Jack, and in turn, turn Jack on Wendy.
It's all meant to stir distrust and resentment.
Jack cheats on Wendy with the bathtub ghoul, Wendy is detained by a maze of ghosts while Danny is chased through a literal maze by Jack, and Jack gets liquored up so he can unlock the anger that once injured Danny.
It's really interesting how manipulative of a villain a fucking building turns out to be.
theres nothing inherently "campy" about a zoom in like that. you probably just relate the zoom in to campy because a lot of more modern parodies and humorous movies/shows tend to use the zoom in comedically.
I don't think zooms are inherently campy, but that specific style of whip zoom kind of is, at least for the kind of horror I think the shining is going for. Its supposed to be like a slow creeping madness that keeps getting louder and louder, and a still shot from far away with good sound/music design would have worked better for that than a quick zoom in my opinion.
>slow creeping madness that keeps getting louder and louder
sure, and the camera movement for most of the film goes along with that, but this scene is taking place near the very end when the slow, creeping madness has crescendoed into all out panic and terror, so i think having a somewhat more energetic style to the camera movement makes sense
the first time seeing that left me speechless for the rest of the day. those scenes that are just so unexplainable really leave an impact on you. the shining really is a perfect film.
>the first time seeing that left me speechless for the rest of the day
are you really saying that you were totally unable to speak for the remainder of the day after seeing that scene? at what time of the day did you watch the movie?
I saw it at 00:01 and was unable to speak for until 00:01 the next day. I failed my oral exams and had to retake classes, and my gf left me
damn, that sucks
>Rob Ager thinks it's a multi-layered reference to incest abuse
The evidence for this (in the film version) is pretty strong
I think it's interesting, though I don't fully buy into it.
It is weird that Kubrick had Jack reading Playgirl.
And the bears over Danny's bed and the pillow bear definitely weren't there for no reason at all.
Agreed.
Stresses me out, dad was an angry s.o.b. growing up so I was constantly scared of and having nightmares about him committing familicide. He's really mellowed out but I still sometimes dream that he's got us all loaded in the car and is going to drive off of a cliff.
Alright well shit. Makes sense you don't like it. You are not retarded, but this is a rare outlier.
Nice anon. I don't think you'll regret it.
>Makes sense you don't like it
I do, it just makes me tense and sits deeper with me.
Actually might be interesting to give it a rewatch, see what stands out now that I'm a dad too.
It might even be tougher to watch as a dad.
But I'm not one, so maybe I'm assuming becoming a dad makes someone more sensitive to those subjects.
I always recommend a rewatch of this movie.
There's just so much in it I always find myself discovering.
the skelly part was dumb and looked bad
Maybe you watched the Stephen King directed/written remake? and yes it's dumb as shit and goofy at the skeleton part in the remake.
Ironically, the man who wrote the book who calls himself 'the master of horror' is terrible at directing horror
If you truly loved a movie you wouldn't make shitty memes about it
Still one of the very few horror movies that actually gives me the chills. I watched this alone one night when my wife was on a business trip in Detroit for the weekend and I had to sleep with the lamp on and a youtube video playing on my iPad
I don't blame you.
I remember during college I took a horror movie class, and the discomfort I felt watching it in that screening room was really fun and really unnerving.
Were you 10 at the time?
>I will never get tired of watching it.
>It is comfy.
Same here, anon, I always go back to it because I love the feel of it, I do wish I could see it for the first time again. One of the best.
It's one of the few movies where I'm amazed by the fact that most of it is compromised of sets.
It feels like a genuine location they filmed in.
*comprised
Comfy is not the word I would use to describe it. Maybe you're looking for the word atmospheric.
i think he means the hotel looks comfy
Excellent taste OP
>Stanley Kubrick
So he was the caretaker? What did the caretaker do? Why was he away from the hotel st tge start?
That's the big question.
We don't have anything concrete, but we've got plenty of theories.
Some think the Overlook attracts reincarnations of previous workers.
Which explains why Charles and Delbert had different names.
Some think the Overlook lied, and merely said such things to every caretaker in order to make it seem like their mission is connected to something eternal.
Some think Jack got absorbed into the Overlook at the end of the film, like his soul was stolen.
All we know is that The Caretaker of the Overlook is supposed to maintain general upkeep of the hotel, and tend to its preservation.
The US cut or the UK cut?
that meme has never been good.
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the playgirl magazine pointing to jack molseting danny seems way too hamfisted for kubrick. subtly hinting at it through character behavior, sure, although i dont really buy it, but reinforcing subtext by having a magazine with a literal headline saying WHY DO KIDS SLEEP WITH THEIR CHILDREN? idunno, seems stupid. ive never liked the interpretation that the movie is some sort of I Spy game with a bajillion hidden meanings though, its just a technically excellent horror film.
Kubrick even said the same.
This has always been a great interview.
One of the few times Kubrick ever shared anything about The Shining.
http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/interview.ts.html
interesting read, thanks. a grounded interview like that focused on the technical aspects makes me appreciate the movie more, far more so than the endless amount of hidden meaning mumbo jumbo that other people write/make videos about
>The book is nowhere near as engaging as this is.
Very true. I’m a book nerd and I have given up on Stephen King, his best work is behind him. Kubrick’s Shining is superior to King’s Shining, the autist defeated the drug addicted autist.
>his best work is behind him
Sad, very sad, but true.
I can't really think of any stories he made from 1990 onward that I thought were good.
His peak was the seventies and eighties.
He shouldn't have stopped doing drugs
i watched doctor sleep, stanley kubrick would shit and piss his pants if he knew
You only like it because they say nagger in it and a black guy dies.
this film and the analysis and obsession surrounding it are what I call level 2 of being a fan of films. You are analysing it on the most retarded conspiracy tier level
one day you may grow up and realise barry lyndon is and always has been kubricks best film
Barry homo
Dr strangekove is his best movie