I don't understand. The main consultant for the film was jack horner, known for being an insufferable primadonna even by paleonthologist standards and hardcore supporter of the lazy scavenger corpse eating t rex. Why is the t rex in the movie a relentless murder machine that hunts anything that moves? Also why did he greenlighted the scene where Grant says if you don't move he cant see you, even though horner published article after article about the superior carrion seeking smell of the tyrannosaurus?
why would something that big and strong be a scavenger? the fuck is he afraid of?
>easy meal >fight to the death with something that might seriously injure the T. rex.
The concept of eating carrion is only a thing to humans. We are nervous as we don't know how long or whats happened to it. Animals don't care so long as it doesn't smell rotten.
Imagine having to knife fight the grocery store cashier every time you wanted a meal. You too would hang around outside waiting to see if some elderly cashier kicked the bucket on the way out to their car.
Same thing with a T-rex. Why fight a triceratops or some other massive creature to the death when you can just linger around waiting for one to drop of old age risk free? Are they murder machines? Sure, but one broken leg and they're done for.
>Also why did he greenlighted the scene where Grant says if you don't move he cant see you, even though horner published article after article about the superior carrion seeking smell of the tyrannosaurus?
In the books, the "vision based on movement" of the T-Rex was shown to be a complete blunder on Grant's part and basically it was just complete dumb luck on his part that the Rex never attacked him when it had the chance.
No, it's not a shit post. >https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/study-suggests-t-rex-70-larger-than-previously-thought/
Don't know if it's true. That's the point. We have *some* bones. We really don't have all that many.
No animal is strictly a scavenger. They'll attack and eat animals that they're equipped to deal with. T-Rex probably would not have attacked large animals, but small ones like that most definitely. Besides, there's no point in a "scavenger" being that big because scavengers need to be able to sneak around and steal food without notice. Also what predators at the time would've been leaving behind enough food for T-Rexes to eat? It was one of the largest carnivores alive at the time.
Hyena >massive bite force >large teeth made for crushing bone >hugely successful predator >no qualms eating carrion >smug sons of bitches
Crocodile >massive bite force >large teeth made for crushing bone >hugely successful predator >no qualms eating carrion >smug sons of bitches
T-Rex >Theoretically the highest bite force of all known animals on the planet >huge teeth made for crushing huge bones >So successful they don't even need arms >Eats everything that had a pulse. Sometimes still has a pulse. You mammals are too picky. >smug sons of bitches
Paleontologists can get fucked. Rex was 9 tons of awesome looking badassery with croc like scales on its back that hunted whatever it felt like and didn't have any homosexualy feathers.
>Theropods didn't have hollow bones and if they did they would shatter under their own weight at the slightest tension
Tyrannosaurids actually do display some degree of pneumatic bones, just not to the same extent as modern birds.
It's stupid anyway because I bet you a hundred bucks they based the "Rex was le heckin scavenger" meme on the hyena-lion relationship, where the physically more imposing and majestic lion routinely steals kills from hyenas and doesn't hunt much on its own. Crichton even highlighted this in the Lost World novel.
they make educated guesses based on certain findings. i'm sure some do it in good faith but some present their ideas with much more certainty than is warranted, and the public face of "science" becomes more and more pop science every day.
the breakdown of the entire peer-review system also gets worse every day which makes me wonder if they even have a coherent enough knowledgebase to thoroughly compare and contrast all the available information from which they draw implications about prehistoric ecology.
Pretty much, especially ones that dig and sell dinosaur bones. They are all fighting for the same contracts for dig sites from a small selection of wealthy museums across the world. There aren't many Nicolas Cage type private collectors out there, even full skeleton finds don't get sold for years.
It also had feathers, only communicated in soft low frequency hums like a socially awkward teenager, and male ones enjoyed getting fucked by their female mates with giant strap on. I fucking love modern science bros
Even if that was true, it doesn't matter. The entire point of Jurassic Park was that they had not created dinosaurs, they had created theme park attractions and simply called them dinosaurs.
There were so many replaced portions of DNA due to gaps from tens of millions of years of decay as well as intentional DNA editing to make the animals behave in certain ways (the Lysine deficiency, behavioral changes, changes to their cardiovascular system to account for the lower levels of oxygen in the air compared to prehistoric Earth, etc).
Congratulations, you missed the entire point of the story.
they were supposed to be quite accurate, not true dinosaurs of course but mostly the same. The gaps they were filling were minor and they could guess what should fill it in. In the books they go into it more, Wu wants to make them less real to be better attractions and Hammond disagrees. The lysine change is the only one, you made up the rest of those for some reason. It is in fact pointed out how they struggle so much because they are NOT adapted to the lower oxygen levels (a now discarded theory actually, oxygen levels were more or less the same back then).
>T. rex was a scavenger, like the dinosaurian equivalent of a vulture.
Wait a minute. So that means if you were alive and just standing there in front of it, it would just... hang around until something else killed you?
They were scavangers and hunters, they would also hunt in packs temporarily to kill large prey.
The dinosaurs in the park are genetically engineered, obviously they won't be 100% accurate
Imagine thinking you know anything about dinosaurs and how they behaved. It truly makes me laugh. Dinofags are more autistic than Star Wars nerds with their fictional lore.
Honestly they've been trying to take down T. rex since the 90s, everyone wants to dethrone the King.
>It's a scavenger >It's a fluffy chicken >There are bigger carnivores like Spinosaurus
But recent findings nullify all that, plus some cool new facts too >Binocular vision, huge eyes, better eyesight than eagles >Ridiculous bite force >Scaly skin found from multiple specimens >Spinosaurus turns out to be a fish eater with stumpy legs
Probably land, and I only said that because I'm counting Purussaurus as "water". This guy is an ancient 40-foot caiman with even stronger bite force than rexy and he's only been extinct for 8 million years or so (compared to T.rex's 65 million years ago).
Currently estimated as the strongest of all animal kingdom, maybe tied or overwhelmed with megalodon ( Otodus megalodon ) but since ONLY some parts of the shark's jaws are fossilized, it's hard to tell.
Probably land, and I only said that because I'm counting Purussaurus as "water". This guy is an ancient 40-foot caiman with even stronger bite force than rexy and he's only been extinct for 8 million years or so (compared to T.rex's 65 million years ago).
They weren't, the scarring from the bicep tendon alone suggest that one muscle could move excess of 350lbs, it is likely they were used as grasping pulp hooks.
>Traditionally, these horns have been viewed as defensive weapons against predators. More recent interpretations find it probable that these features were primarily used in species identification, courtship, and dominance display, much like the antlers and horns of modern ungulates.
Recent palentology is just an unendless stream of "akchually" with no real basis. They tried to pull this shit with ankylosaurus too, claiming that the lump of solid hammer-like bone at the end of its tail is for "display" or some horseshit
.Despite the feasibility of tail-swinging, the researchers could not determine whether ankylosaurids used their clubs for defense against potential predators, in intraspecific combat, or both.[35] Other studies have found evidence of ankylosaurids using their tail clubs for intraspecific combat.
Honestly they've been trying to take down T. rex since the 90s, everyone wants to dethrone the King.
>It's a scavenger >It's a fluffy chicken >There are bigger carnivores like Spinosaurus
But recent findings nullify all that, plus some cool new facts too >Binocular vision, huge eyes, better eyesight than eagles >Ridiculous bite force >Scaly skin found from multiple specimens >Spinosaurus turns out to be a fish eater with stumpy legs
vision, huge eyes, better eyesight than eagles
bite force
this is all speculation just like the stuff you dislike. There are no tissue or muscle remains. We will never know for sure. You just pick and choose what things sound cool
There are only 3 real "dinosaurs". The behemot, the leviathan and the zyz. Now go burn in hell.
>The date of "Mitochondrial Eve," the common maternal ancestor of all humankind, was based on that mutation rate. The revised molecular clock indicates that she lived about 6500 years ago, not about 200,000 years ago as previously claimed. Source: Wieland, Carl, 1998. A shrinking date for 'Eve'
Lmao get fucked. It took 1000 years for "science" to get to know what the bible said from day one. Notice how they still call her "Mitochondrial" Eve as coping mechanism.
>This is not how T-Rex hunted. > >T. rex was a scavenger, like the dinosaurian equivalent of a vulture.
Did you even watch the movie? Those werent dinosaurs, they're genetically modified themepark monsters. There are no rules on how they are supposed to act.
Actually their behavioural pattern is quite predictable. Regardless of them being mutant freaks that look like dinos but really aint, they all were raised without parents, without herd mates, without any sort of generational guide, just thrown in a cage and regularly fed. It's natural that they grow sociopathic tendencies even for dinosaur behaviour, like killing for sport or playing with the prey. Theres a reason why zookeepers use surrogate mothers and puppets
the available data (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abd9220) suggests that t. rex had several different methods of hunting throughout its life, occupying several niches. seeing as younger t. rexes were quite agile and fast, they would likely have been active hunters, whereas bigger and lazier t. rexes would probably be mostly scavengers.
shut up it looks cool
How would you know that about something that never existed?
>hurr durr I know this because the le hecking scientists told me so
get a brain of you'reself, moron
why would something that big and strong be a scavenger? the fuck is he afraid of?
cavemen with AR-15s
Maybe in Ark
>he doesn't know about the atlanteans
So it can steal kills from smaller predators like dakotaraptor.
Wild guess? Save energy
Dinosaurs never existed.
the t rex was a vegan
T. Rex only ate small dead animals alongside fruits and berries. It was not le heckin badass killing machine.
they farmed wheat
I don't understand. The main consultant for the film was jack horner, known for being an insufferable primadonna even by paleonthologist standards and hardcore supporter of the lazy scavenger corpse eating t rex. Why is the t rex in the movie a relentless murder machine that hunts anything that moves? Also why did he greenlighted the scene where Grant says if you don't move he cant see you, even though horner published article after article about the superior carrion seeking smell of the tyrannosaurus?
Because he let spielberg diddle his niece.
>jack horner
>easy meal
>fight to the death with something that might seriously injure the T. rex.
The concept of eating carrion is only a thing to humans. We are nervous as we don't know how long or whats happened to it. Animals don't care so long as it doesn't smell rotten.
Imagine having to knife fight the grocery store cashier every time you wanted a meal. You too would hang around outside waiting to see if some elderly cashier kicked the bucket on the way out to their car.
Same thing with a T-rex. Why fight a triceratops or some other massive creature to the death when you can just linger around waiting for one to drop of old age risk free? Are they murder machines? Sure, but one broken leg and they're done for.
>Imagine having to knife fight the grocery store cashier every time you wanted a meal.
Getting that way in Baltimore and SF.
>Why is the t rex in the movie a relentless murder machine that hunts anything that moves?
Spielberg just decided to BTFO Horner.
say what? wasn't he a film composer? did the Titanic and Avatar score
>Also why did he greenlighted the scene where Grant says if you don't move he cant see you, even though horner published article after article about the superior carrion seeking smell of the tyrannosaurus?
In the books, the "vision based on movement" of the T-Rex was shown to be a complete blunder on Grant's part and basically it was just complete dumb luck on his part that the Rex never attacked him when it had the chance.
Wasn't that disproven? I thought the T-Rex is now thought to be a hunter again.
Predators routinely eat dead animals or commit cannibalism. They don't have to be specialized saprophages to do that
They change it every week. Now they think it might have been 70% bigger than they thought.
Is this a shitpost? How is that possible when we have its fucking bones
No, it's not a shit post.
>https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/study-suggests-t-rex-70-larger-than-previously-thought/
Don't know if it's true. That's the point. We have *some* bones. We really don't have all that many.
t rex really was a giant chicken. they have similar proportions, those small hands on trex probably looked like chicken wings too
The thought of a T Rex sized chicken is horrifying. Chickens are some of the most braindead retarded animals that are completely unpredictable.
There's a manga about giant chickens that brutally murder and eat people just because
I'm pretty sure I read a children's book with a similar premise. Giant chickens are just a global fear I guess
Last time you said that you got SCHOOLED by a chicken farmer who said they are actually sensitive
>Can confirm, egg farmer.
I was going to post the same. We truly live in a perpetual hell of Cinemaphile stupidity. Like this guy got schooled, but he insists on his stupidity
they existed
>muh bird theory
You know where to go.
Chickens are vicious predators.
MAMMALS BTFO
Proof the trex is scavenger, the chicken stol3 the cats food just like a trex stealing the meal of a Saber cat.
>Scavenger
>The prey is still alive and healthy
Could you AT LEAST even try ?
OUT OF MY WAY FELINE FUCKING SHITS
>Chickens evolved from dinosaurs
>Humans evolved from monkeys
Science is a mental illness.
We didn't evolve from monkeys necessarily but we share common ancestors. What's wrong with that?
there's literally fossil evidence for both of those
Sure, and if you dont think the idea of a giant carnivorous chicken ruling the world is cool af, then fuck off with you.
Bro.... You're really fucking onto something here.
A chicken wouldn't have had that massive tail. T-Rex probably looked exactly like it does in the Jurassic series.
No animal is strictly a scavenger. They'll attack and eat animals that they're equipped to deal with. T-Rex probably would not have attacked large animals, but small ones like that most definitely. Besides, there's no point in a "scavenger" being that big because scavengers need to be able to sneak around and steal food without notice. Also what predators at the time would've been leaving behind enough food for T-Rexes to eat? It was one of the largest carnivores alive at the time.
There are triceratops skeletons that we can tell from the scaring died when A t-rex ripped their head from their body.
Hyena
>massive bite force
>large teeth made for crushing bone
>hugely successful predator
>no qualms eating carrion
>smug sons of bitches
Crocodile
>massive bite force
>large teeth made for crushing bone
>hugely successful predator
>no qualms eating carrion
>smug sons of bitches
T-Rex
>Theoretically the highest bite force of all known animals on the planet
>huge teeth made for crushing huge bones
>So successful they don't even need arms
>Eats everything that had a pulse. Sometimes still has a pulse. You mammals are too picky.
>smug sons of bitches
Paleontologists can get fucked. Rex was 9 tons of awesome looking badassery with croc like scales on its back that hunted whatever it felt like and didn't have any homosexualy feathers.
Only 9? Females were 5 meters high and 15 long. A 3 meters high 5 long elephant can go up to 15 tons
birds tend to weigh very little relative to their size, you see.
Theropods didn't have hollow bones and if they did they would shatter under their own weight at the slightest tension
>Theropods didn't have hollow bones and if they did they would shatter under their own weight at the slightest tension
Tyrannosaurids actually do display some degree of pneumatic bones, just not to the same extent as modern birds.
It's stupid anyway because I bet you a hundred bucks they based the "Rex was le heckin scavenger" meme on the hyena-lion relationship, where the physically more imposing and majestic lion routinely steals kills from hyenas and doesn't hunt much on its own. Crichton even highlighted this in the Lost World novel.
FUCK YEAH, T REX
why would a scavenger have to be so big?
Don't they now think it did both? It is interesting how creatures with strong bites have scavenging tendencies.
Why would the biggest land predator or it time be a scavenger?
Because he was big. Big animal slow
Check it out, I'm made of gold!
t. Rex
Are paleontologists just making up any old bullshit and expecting people to buy it? Is that all they've ever done?
they make educated guesses based on certain findings. i'm sure some do it in good faith but some present their ideas with much more certainty than is warranted, and the public face of "science" becomes more and more pop science every day.
the breakdown of the entire peer-review system also gets worse every day which makes me wonder if they even have a coherent enough knowledgebase to thoroughly compare and contrast all the available information from which they draw implications about prehistoric ecology.
Pretty much, especially ones that dig and sell dinosaur bones. They are all fighting for the same contracts for dig sites from a small selection of wealthy museums across the world. There aren't many Nicolas Cage type private collectors out there, even full skeleton finds don't get sold for years.
This was a theory that gained ground for a period and is not dismissed.
Have a terrible day and life, OP.
>dinosaurian equivalent of a vulture
vultures ARE dinosaurs anon
That's like saying a lemur is a human. Fucking retard
No, it's like saying humans are primates / apes, which we are.
I wouldnt usually reply but your post made me immeasurably mad so here's a (You), bum
Fossil evidence has shown that T. Rex was bisexual.
Vultures make kills all the time, retard.
It also had feathers, only communicated in soft low frequency hums like a socially awkward teenager, and male ones enjoyed getting fucked by their female mates with giant strap on. I fucking love modern science bros
>It also had feathers
That meme died years ago.
t-rex looked more like a giant chicken that ate nuts and berries and occasionally small dead rodents and birds
I'll just say it
dinosaurs are fake and never existed
We will never know the truth.
Even if that was true, it doesn't matter. The entire point of Jurassic Park was that they had not created dinosaurs, they had created theme park attractions and simply called them dinosaurs.
There were so many replaced portions of DNA due to gaps from tens of millions of years of decay as well as intentional DNA editing to make the animals behave in certain ways (the Lysine deficiency, behavioral changes, changes to their cardiovascular system to account for the lower levels of oxygen in the air compared to prehistoric Earth, etc).
Congratulations, you missed the entire point of the story.
they were supposed to be quite accurate, not true dinosaurs of course but mostly the same. The gaps they were filling were minor and they could guess what should fill it in. In the books they go into it more, Wu wants to make them less real to be better attractions and Hammond disagrees. The lysine change is the only one, you made up the rest of those for some reason. It is in fact pointed out how they struggle so much because they are NOT adapted to the lower oxygen levels (a now discarded theory actually, oxygen levels were more or less the same back then).
>they were supposed to be quite accurate
I hate this meme because Dilophosaurus proves you wrong.
In the story, retard. It has nothing to do with reality.
Perhaps you should specify next time, nagger.
Your reading comprehension failure is not my problem.
Right, but you should really do something about being a nagger.
I did, I made sure every single one of my ancestors came from the same region of Northern England.
>England
Yikes.
Better than Brazil, monkey man
Your whole country is full of monkey men.
>JP thread
>talking about JP dinos
>in the JP universe
>anon mentions the novels
>"Specify it nagger"
Doesn't she pop out and pick one off from the herd? Kind of a predation of convenience anyway
How the fuck do they know its behaviour from a pile of bones?
>T. rex was a scavenger, like the dinosaurian equivalent of a vulture.
Wait a minute. So that means if you were alive and just standing there in front of it, it would just... hang around until something else killed you?
Shut up science bitch
Archaeologist here, the t-rex could breathe fire, also Jesus rode one.
Shut the fuck up, Horner, you discredited hack.
They were scavangers and hunters, they would also hunt in packs temporarily to kill large prey.
The dinosaurs in the park are genetically engineered, obviously they won't be 100% accurate
Imagine thinking you know anything about dinosaurs and how they behaved. It truly makes me laugh. Dinofags are more autistic than Star Wars nerds with their fictional lore.
Based on the current science yes, you trust the science don't you?
Can't even think of bait to go along with this, I just want to post this image.
What's the evolutionary purpose of having tiny arms like that? They're literally useless
A lot of animals have vestigial parts. For example whales have little stumps of bone where its back legs used to be.
So the animal could balance the massive weight of its head. The one with the greatest known bite force in history.
Is that bite force for land animals, or all?
Probably land, and I only said that because I'm counting Purussaurus as "water". This guy is an ancient 40-foot caiman with even stronger bite force than rexy and he's only been extinct for 8 million years or so (compared to T.rex's 65 million years ago).
That's what I figured. Still mighty impressive, but I was gonna go read into why if it was all.
Currently estimated as the strongest of all animal kingdom, maybe tied or overwhelmed with megalodon ( Otodus megalodon ) but since ONLY some parts of the shark's jaws are fossilized, it's hard to tell.
Nevermind, wasn't aware of
They weren't, the scarring from the bicep tendon alone suggest that one muscle could move excess of 350lbs, it is likely they were used as grasping pulp hooks.
This is correct and I have know this because I had the DK Tyrannosaurus book as a kid.
Why does this 30 year old CGI look better than the Jurassic World movies
I have it on good authority that many T Rexes actually moved to farming their prey on massive ranches
this was debunked when they found a few instances of healed bone in some dino fossils and forensically linked the teeth marks to a T-Rex hunt attempt.
The accepted standard is that it was a hunter who scavenged when the need arose.
https://www.npr.org/2013/07/16/202294091/om-nom-nom-t-rex-was-indeed-a-voracious-hunter
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/16/tyrannosaurus-rex-tooth-hunter_n_3602909.html#:~:text=Scientists%20say%20the%20discovery%20of,attacker%2C%22%20the%20researchers%20added.
>a hunter who scavenged when the need arose
Like every other predator on Earth. Honestly these so called "scientists" are a literal joke.
yeah, every time they've taken bones to forensics they get schooled by people who don't even fuck with palaeontology
It's just a noisy minority with a weird hate voner of the T-rex.
>Traditionally, these horns have been viewed as defensive weapons against predators. More recent interpretations find it probable that these features were primarily used in species identification, courtship, and dominance display, much like the antlers and horns of modern ungulates.
Recent palentology is just an unendless stream of "akchually" with no real basis. They tried to pull this shit with ankylosaurus too, claiming that the lump of solid hammer-like bone at the end of its tail is for "display" or some horseshit
.Despite the feasibility of tail-swinging, the researchers could not determine whether ankylosaurids used their clubs for defense against potential predators, in intraspecific combat, or both.[35] Other studies have found evidence of ankylosaurids using their tail clubs for intraspecific combat.
I'm kinda hoping someone goes all the way back to saying most of the bigger sauropods spent all day in water.
Honestly i wouldn't mind because it's such a cool aesthetic. Just these massive animals chilling in deep waters
This is making me seriously miss those old hand painted dino art books.
me pretending to be rocks
It just looks right.
Honestly they've been trying to take down T. rex since the 90s, everyone wants to dethrone the King.
>It's a scavenger
>It's a fluffy chicken
>There are bigger carnivores like Spinosaurus
But recent findings nullify all that, plus some cool new facts too
>Binocular vision, huge eyes, better eyesight than eagles
>Ridiculous bite force
>Scaly skin found from multiple specimens
>Spinosaurus turns out to be a fish eater with stumpy legs
vision, huge eyes, better eyesight than eagles
bite force
this is all speculation just like the stuff you dislike. There are no tissue or muscle remains. We will never know for sure. You just pick and choose what things sound cool
>this is all speculation just like the stuff you dislike
The muscles and ligaments leave marks on skeletons.
Were you there? Then you don't know.
How do you know?
T-rex's aren't real. They're just a bunch of different animals that all died in the same spot and left a giant skeleton.
These smaller animals had proportionally enormous bones more fitting to the size of a tyrannosaurus?
They were all single-bone organisms.
There are only 3 real "dinosaurs". The behemot, the leviathan and the zyz. Now go burn in hell.
>The date of "Mitochondrial Eve," the common maternal ancestor of all humankind, was based on that mutation rate. The revised molecular clock indicates that she lived about 6500 years ago, not about 200,000 years ago as previously claimed. Source: Wieland, Carl, 1998. A shrinking date for 'Eve'
Lmao get fucked. It took 1000 years for "science" to get to know what the bible said from day one. Notice how they still call her "Mitochondrial" Eve as coping mechanism.
>zyz
Dinosaurs btfo by sauna
>The only dinosaurs are Kyogre, Groudon and Rayquaza
WTF I love pokemon now ?!
The laugh that just came out of me.
>blood stained beak
Chaduary claimed another tiktok influencer by the beach i see
it does both you retards, thats how you fucking survive, by getting a meal any way you can.
>This is not how T-Rex hunted.
>
>T. rex was a scavenger, like the dinosaurian equivalent of a vulture.
Did you even watch the movie? Those werent dinosaurs, they're genetically modified themepark monsters. There are no rules on how they are supposed to act.
Actually their behavioural pattern is quite predictable. Regardless of them being mutant freaks that look like dinos but really aint, they all were raised without parents, without herd mates, without any sort of generational guide, just thrown in a cage and regularly fed. It's natural that they grow sociopathic tendencies even for dinosaur behaviour, like killing for sport or playing with the prey. Theres a reason why zookeepers use surrogate mothers and puppets
The Lost World novel actually develops this point really well RE the velociraptors.
the available data (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abd9220) suggests that t. rex had several different methods of hunting throughout its life, occupying several niches. seeing as younger t. rexes were quite agile and fast, they would likely have been active hunters, whereas bigger and lazier t. rexes would probably be mostly scavengers.
It would’ve done both, like the equivalent of a huge bear.
>big lizardsies
>~~*evolution*~~
sorry not gonna believe it...I'm just not gonna do it haha!
>T. rex was a scavenger
t. Hornerfag
OUT OF MY WAY, T-REX FUCKING SHITS
>T. rex was a scavenger, like the dinosaurian equivalent of a vulture
We have absolutely no way of knowing for certain.