This is pure fricking fanfiction.

This is pure fricking fanfiction.
Why was Lucas allowed to defile Irvin Keshner and Lawrence Kasdan's character like this?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yoda go ham

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Inb4 prequeltards defend this garbage

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's to defend?
      >jedi master has mastered the jedi arts
      It'd be far more strange if he didn't use a saber.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mastering the Jedi arts would mean a saber is beneath you, you just don't need it. Same reason Sheev didn't use one, you don't need a sword when you're an all-powerful wizard.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DO THIS

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why didn´t Yoda just use the Force to crush Palpatine´s organs and kill him without saber?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >JEDI WAY IT ISN'T
              >UNLESS SAMUEL L. JACKSON YOU BEING.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The movies show that lightsabers take a lot more time than that to retract and extend.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              these are newer quick-draw models of lightsabers which only later became canon. Lucas wanted to put the quick-draw lightsabers into the OT but he cycled after he received bad advice from his ex-wife. she mocked him and called him “Quick Draw” George but I think there was more to the story

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In the Eu books it actually addresses this. Part of learning force defenses to protect against being force choked or force thrown and keeping your opponent from doing this etc.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Mastering the Jedi arts would mean a saber is beneath you
          How so?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You don't need to use physical force to defeat your oponent. You just choke him with your mind
            Do you understand you dumb gay, spinning laser yoda was a mistake from beginning to end

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But why wouldn't a jedi master use a jedi art?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the same reason why a car doesn't need pedals

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Name 5 cars without pedals.

                >attempting to apply logical reasoning to the works of a notorious hack
                star wars gays really are something else

                >notorious hack
                Fincher and Kubrick have American Graffiti in their top movies lists.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Fincher and Kubrick have American Graffiti in their top movies lists.
                and THX-1138 is also a good movie but that doesn’t change the fact that Lucas is a hack who decided to stop making kino and instead decided to produce lowest-common-denominator space slop for kids and morons

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >who decided to stop making kino
                Never happened my ninja.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Except for Red Tails I agree. Not even cause they’re nogs, it just wasn’t good.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Name 5 cars without pedals.
                honda, toyota, nissan, chevrolet and ford in the flinstones universe

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But a car DOES need pedals.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Elon Musk doesn't think so, thats why the tesla is driven with a joystick

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >attempting to apply logical reasoning to the works of a notorious hack
              star wars gays really are something else

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sheev REALLY could have used a lightsaber when he was thrown down an open shaft next to his throne like a complete lvl 1 jobber. "Master of the force" indeed. Couldn't even use his powers to pull himself to safety. Nope, a fricking space station he designed with a giant open hole to a nuclear reactor killed him because he didn't have a lightsaber to stop himself from being tossed in. And his shitty ass force lightning, which has never worked, continued to not work.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Mastering the Jedi arts would mean a saber is beneath you, you just don't need it. Same reason Sheev didn't use one, you don't need a sword when you're an all-powerful wizard.
          based

          You don't need to use physical force to defeat your oponent. You just choke him with your mind
          Do you understand you dumb gay, spinning laser yoda was a mistake from beginning to end

          >You don't need to use physical force to defeat your oponent.
          correct
          >spinning laser yoda was a mistake from beginning to end
          yes

          https://i.imgur.com/HOYxsQJ.png

          This is pure fricking fanfiction.
          Why was Lucas allowed to defile Irvin Keshner and Lawrence Kasdan's character like this?

          >This is pure fricking fanfiction.
          >Why was Lucas allowed to defile Irvin Keshner and Lawrence Kasdan's character like this?
          based op

          What's to defend?
          >jedi master has mastered the jedi arts
          It'd be far more strange if he didn't use a saber.

          >It'd be far more strange if he didn't use a saber
          moron

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >calls the prequels “fanfiction”
          >refers to Emperor Palpatine as “Sheev”
          Next you’ll be talking about nonsense like “sith”

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >when an old kung fu master goes all out in a martial arts film its good
      >when Yoda a Jedi Master goes all out in a fictional film its not
      RLM trannies have no brain cells

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well yeah, to them, "Wars not make one great" means Yoda would never fight, much less with a lightsaber. Never mind that he wanted Luke to kill his dad and only warned against not rushing into it. That line is now Yoda speaking from experience since the Jedi's downfall started with them falling for the bait and becoming frontline generals.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wars just made the jedi weak and destroyed them. Yoda knows this first hand.

          People wanted more of the same, but failed to realize that Jedi were a dying breed by ep 4. How could this happen, how could Yoda be the same at the height of his power?
          Did people even think this through at all?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't really make sense to have the Jedi be the way they are at all in the PT, considering hardly anyone seems to know who they are in the OT. How does Luke know what the Clone Wars was, but not Jedi? It was only like 20 years ago that they were a huge part of the Galactic Republic serving as literal generals. Same with Han, who would have been alive when all this happened. The whole thing doesn't match up, sometimes I wonder if Lucas even bothered to watch the originals before making the PT, and instead went off whatever his idea of them was in his own head.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Jedi were extremely rare and they were never seen again.
              Watto lived on tattooine and didn't know much about jedi.
              Leia knew about jedi due to being a learned politician.
              Han Solo knew about jedi, but didn't believe in the force, which makes some degree of sense, if jedi were viewed as wicked charlatans who were purged on good grounds by the state etc etc

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not to mention their absolutely massive temple on Coruscant smack dab in the middle of all the other important buildings and pretty close to the Senate.

              Jedi were extremely rare and they were never seen again.
              Watto lived on tattooine and didn't know much about jedi.
              Leia knew about jedi due to being a learned politician.
              Han Solo knew about jedi, but didn't believe in the force, which makes some degree of sense, if jedi were viewed as wicked charlatans who were purged on good grounds by the state etc etc

              >Watto lived on tattooine and didn't know much about jedi.
              He knew what a jedi mind trick was. The fact that a random junk dealer on some backwater shithole planet knows some detail about what jedi can do means they can't have been that obscure.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Watto knew
                Yeah but he didn't respect it at all.
                Purge the jedi for 20-30 years, go back to that same junk dealer and he would say something like "yeah jedis could do some strange stuff and they had that weird religion but they're all dead so who gives a frick? The only jedi I ever saw tried to fleece me on some parts anyway"

                Is it really so strange people would talk about the space-temple-CIA less and less after they were all justifiably killed for treason?

                Normal people don't give a frick about that shit

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Jedi were extremely rare and they were never seen again.
              Watto lived on tattooine and didn't know much about jedi.
              Leia knew about jedi due to being a learned politician.
              Han Solo knew about jedi, but didn't believe in the force, which makes some degree of sense, if jedi were viewed as wicked charlatans who were purged on good grounds by the state etc etc

              Point is, in any case, that Yoda at the height of his power bears a lot of responsibility for the fall of the jedi.

              OT fanboys of the rabid type wanted the threat to come from outside, but the story that Lucas penned was imo much more interesting, in which the republic and the jedi fell to their own corruption as much as it did to palpatine's machinations.

              Its more exciting because the threat is still there, even in victory, for a repeat of the prequels.

              Jedi in the OT and various factions of the rebels want to turn back the clock instead of truly criticizing their ideas.

              Luke exists as the decider, and he ends up defying everyone trying to save his father from the darkness- ending the story on a Christian theme of salvation, forgiveness etc.

              To have that theme, we need the corruption of Yoda in ep 2- 3

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yoda should never have been any more than a hermit monk type. The Jedi in general should have been much more scarce in the PT. I always saw them as something like a benevolent Knight's Templar faction, who work in the shadows serving powerful people. Obi-Wan serving Bail Organa per the OT dialogue follows this as well.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >should have
                There it is again. Why do you think that way, and why are you unable to accept the way the movies actually are?

                At the end, your refusal to see the movies for what they are shuts the door for any understanding

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not unable to accept them, I just wonder why they are so incongruent with the movies they proceed. There are several examples of this, the Jedi being some prominent galactic bureaucracy is just the biggest one.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is it incongruent? Still feels like a refusal to actually engage with the text.
                Did you read my post talking about Yoda's role in the prequels? Here:

                Its a prequel.
                Yoda has fallen to the dark side in the prequel, he has grown soft and fat on institutional power, he has weakening insight, he is lost and frustrated repeatedly in ep2. Things are changing, and he feels powerless.

                Then, out of nowhere, this army is gifted to him, enabling him to help his tribe, to *do* something, to feel young and powerful again.

                He does this, he battles his old apprentice in a ludicrous display of power and he declares the shroud of the dark side has fallen, full of self assuredness and fear.

                Its a commentary on the character. It genuinely gives weight to the Yoda appearance in ESB and RotJ. It makes clear that exile and a shift in ideology was a necessary choice, because his old ways were irrevocably destructive and hurtful. He was wrong, he was party to dark powers and they used him.

                His fall was one of the greatest in the prequels.

                I talk about the exact thing you're griping about. Yoda is not the same character, in purpose. He had duties, he did mistakes, he learned from those mistakes and in many ways he went "back to basics"' in ep 5.

                In many ways he's the same old yoda. He still has a very "old school" Jedi attitude and Luke Skywalker makes the right decision by continuously defying his wishes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                None of that stuff is made evident in the movies, he comes across as being mostly wise and correct and only exiles himself because the order as a whole failed, not necessarily because he made any explicit mistakes. It's all inherent to the flaws of the films though, the focus is spread too thin amongst the characters compared to the OT. They try to be too epic in scale and fail, three movies dedicated to an (adult) Anakin and Obi-Wan's Clone Wars chronicles leading to Anakin's fall would have been much better, with Yoda retaining a similar role to the OT if he appears much at all.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are doing that thing again where you are inserting fan fiction instead of engaging with the material. Do you understand how hard it is to watch a movie if you are constantly inserting your own thoughts into it?

                Also, you don't think yoda was wrong? He was shown to be wrong endlessly, constantly making short sighted decisions, playing into the hands of sidious et al.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I'm speculating on how it would be better. Isn't that obvious?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think the number of Jedi was somewhere around 100,000? Which may seem a lot, but that’s in a galaxy of hundreds of trillions of residents. I mean there’s lucky sons of b***hes that live on earth and have never seen a Black person IRL, and there’s only 7 billion people on earth and nogs are like 1 billion of that. It is rather sloppy, but still possible that a backwater desert planet farmer like Luke or some smuggler/gambler that spends most of his drinking or turkey basting spice had never heard of Jedi. Han had heard of the Force in ANH but dismissed it as hokey garbage, I’m sure he thought the same of the Jedi.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >How does Luke know what the Clone Wars was, but not Jedi?
              Luke probably knew about Jedi. Obi-Wan said "I was once a Jedi Knight, the same as your father," and Luke didn't ask "What's a Jedi?" like he did with the Force and the lightsaber.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >MUH RLM
        Prequeltards really need to learn that one single set of reviewers didn't make everyone hate prequelshit.

        Besides, even if they did, it would mean that it just took three dudes saying the emperor has no clothes for everyone to realize how much the prequels sucked.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    homosexual you are OP

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kasdan's a moron who wanted to subvert le expecteyshuns and make Luke go evil

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Right, obviously he should have subverted expectations by having him become a depressed loser exile.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        funny that

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Yoda riding in a backpack" in ESB was a compromise. The script had him running and jumping alongside Luke in the swamp, but they realized the plan of "Dress up a trained chimp or a midge in a Yoda costume for those longshots" wasn't going to work and gave up.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can people stop worshiping Lawrence Kasdan? He was involved in the sequel trilogy and comes off as an idiot in interviews.

    He's not so brilliant story teller, he's a dumbfrick.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no one actually worships him, the OP is just shitposting

      people found out he was a hack in 2015 when star wars was back in the spotlight

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kasdan's skill is in dialogue, he's very good at "punching up" scripts.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its a prequel.
    Yoda has fallen to the dark side in the prequel, he has grown soft and fat on institutional power, he has weakening insight, he is lost and frustrated repeatedly in ep2. Things are changing, and he feels powerless.

    Then, out of nowhere, this army is gifted to him, enabling him to help his tribe, to *do* something, to feel young and powerful again.

    He does this, he battles his old apprentice in a ludicrous display of power and he declares the shroud of the dark side has fallen, full of self assuredness and fear.

    Its a commentary on the character. It genuinely gives weight to the Yoda appearance in ESB and RotJ. It makes clear that exile and a shift in ideology was a necessary choice, because his old ways were irrevocably destructive and hurtful. He was wrong, he was party to dark powers and they used him.

    His fall was one of the greatest in the prequels.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don’t ever post here again. You are way too intelligent for this hellhole and I don’t want to see someone as bright as you ending up jaded by pajeets, israelites, incels, and troonys.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    watch the RLM reviews

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    50% of prequels criticisms is just boomers being upset that george ruined their autistic headcanon
    >nooo yoda can't have a lightsaber
    >nooo clone wars are not supposed to be about a clone army
    >nooo boba can't be a clone
    >nooo jedi can't wear robes

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wtf why is anakin a real human with his own ideas and shiiii
      >wtf why is he being a teenager this shit ain't starwars

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Lucas makes kino
    >People are still seething even after he's been proven correct.
    Irvin Keshner and Lawrence Kasdan haven't produced anything that people can even pretend was good without George being involved.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see anyone having an issue with Gandalf swinging a sword around

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AOTC is the most moronic movie ever made and it's better for it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My theory is that the more lightsaber fights a SW movie has the more moronic it is.
      ANH has exactly 1 lightsaber fight.
      I think ESB also has 1.
      TPM has 2.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you count the fight with ghost Darth Vader in the cave then ESB has 2.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AOTC is great.
      You have a boy becoming a man story, pursuing romance, opening up about his personal political ideas, trying to find a place and conquer his fears, his love etc.

      In all that you have endless imagery of things being created, cloning facilities, factories that manufacture people (droids), Mars expy planet with extremely pulp colosseum fights, creatures that represent freudian psychosexual aspects of the main characters they fight, grandiose battle stuff, endless lightsabers and death on a massive scale.

      Ends with a yoda + Dracula lightsaber fight. Its amazing.
      Also doesn't even touch upon the opener being a sort of spy/cop drama with a hidden assassin alien. Great stuff.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's shit. That midriff is nice, though.

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