this is so fricked up, were humans really like this once?
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We're still like that now. NFL players give themselves fatal brain injuries every sunday in front of 80 thousand people
not anymore, they're pussies
To think these are even remotely in the same league is to have your head so far up your ass you have a 4.0 gpa
No, child, these are merely your delusions again
This is some fedora stuff.
you're right
gladiators were kinder. quick deaths instead of years of brain injury
Yeah because gladiators never got brain injuries. Totally.
>It's not the same just because they aren't actively trying to kill each other
>Please ignore that people are still cheering while the participants beat each other bloody and sometimes inflict lifelong injuries
Very rarely gladiators actually killed each other or even seriously hurt each other. Or even hurt each other at all. The objective wasn't even to win as much as it was to be entertaining. Several famous gladiators even fought eachother multiple times. View it more as antique pro wrestling. Think about it as an industry for a second. These were guys whos masters would spend massive amounts to feed, train and market. Said owners had agreements of who would win any said fight and would in due turn make an enemy out of the entire industry if his gladiator would go rogue and kill or cripple anothers masters investment
thats great but the fodder aka random slaves thrown into the arena to get murdered are clearly not a part of that category
Right. Those weren't gladiators though
look, the "topic" is "did people really used to be like this" and we got the movie in the OP that is dramaticized bla bla bla at the end of the day, yeah we went to huge stadiums to watch naked dudes with clubs get torn up by armored badasses who would then later go have "honorable" duels with each other and then go kill some more slaves afterwards and then maybe get the tigers to kill some slaves
Can you imagine if we already discovered TV back then, the videos would have been hardcore shit
>discovered TV
Fair enough. You're right. I just wanted to flex my knowledge on the gladiator industry tbh
there's plenty of "hardcore shit" on the web, from cartel executions to darwin award winners
an HD stadium coverage of a mass gladiator battle where camera drones follow the ROCK as he plows his way through malnourished slaves with a battlehammer, is something that will never be found on "the web" even if some rich billionaires do shit like this in private
isis executions are in hd
20 sandBlack folk getting decapitated is pretty close to what you're describing
it doesnt have the same feeling, youre not showing up with the bros to the stadium to watch your favourite gladiator, theres no pizazze, theres showmanship but again its very amateur stuff
theres no leagues, theres no betting going on, theres no hot slave b***hes everywhere, its not the same
I wish I lived in imperial rome but with electricity and TV
Saddam's sons did that kind of shit though.
dude, gladiator fights back then were a "community event" thing, it was public
degenerate shit rich and powerful people do isnt the same because the plebs dont get to see it as part of the bread and circus, get it
I mean yeah if we start counting what the powerful leaders do, then sure please televise the dicky orgies from rome too, thanks
7 billion people can watch whatever form of death they want at a choice how is that less than a small event in a tiny country. Your going to go watch Russians an Ukrainians die and enjoy every second of it anyways you blind fool.
It's still the same basic principle. You think anyone would show up for boxing or MMA if the fighters had pillows on their hands and protective headgear, and win/lose was based on just points? Come on.
mma only really popped off recently whereas fake wrestling has been a thing since forever
It's not the same. Every NFL game should have at least one death considering these homosexuals are paid millions upon millions to throw and catch a ball.
I'm on the same boat as this dude. Let these monkeys be roided to the gills, remove the new safety rules and lets get this shit started.
>Bradys the goat oommmggg
>plays in the pussy era of foosball
it might be fun to watch then
Everything's being made easier on athletes.
Baseball's new rules for extra innings are bullshit.
Tennis majors end the 5th set in a tiebreaker now.
Flop at any time and get a call in basketball.
>divegrass lmao
Seems like hockey's the only thing even trying to hold to the old ways, but even there equipment regulations keep changing.
Players getting hurt or retiring earlier than they could have hurts profits. And baseball is boring, so that one's a little different.
sports are fake anyways
at least most wrestling fans know this
gladiator fights were actually a lot like wwe
Men's futeball/soccer is such a fricking joke to watch, I don't get how anyone can stomach the constant cringe crocodile tears.
They ham it up in order for the other team to get in trouble so they can win. It's honestly fricking pathetic but that's what it's been all about recently
>fatal brain injuries every sunday in front of 80 thousand people
When was the last time a football player died on the field?
we still are that way at our core. its just buried under 2000 years of christian morality
Memery aside its more appropriate to look at 20th century racing for a more comparable situation. Even until the 70s the seasons in F1 where nobody died were less common than ones were one did. Then you had dozens of different other racing categories with far more deaths in them. And it was entirely possible to die just from attending a race since a car could crash send parts or the entire car into crowds of people. Tons of people watched in gleeful anticipation of crashes.
Pussy
they willingly do it for 10s of millions of dollars and glory
> once
>what is boxing
>what is bullfighting
blood sports still exist, OP.
Most gladiators were people who participated on their own free will, they were the rockstars of their time. You could get filthy rich and get a lot of pussy if you were good.
No, gladiators were a huge investment and no ludus would send their best fighters to a death match. Only prisoners being publicly executed.
I mean, imagine spending tons of dinarii on a fighter, training, meat, exercise, women to keep him happy, just to see him die the next day. Makes no sense
>Only prisoners being publicly executed
Wasn't that the entire point of gladiator? He wasn't meant to survive and was just a political prisoner
Not exactly but sort of. For a modern day parallel, think Sumo wrestlers. They don't fight to the death, but they train their entire lives, are generally respected for their craft, but don't have a good endgame. They usually end up poor, working modest jobs or just die young. Despite being generally admired by the community.
Gladiators didn't were not given meat, eat the bugs, live in the pod and you will be happy.
>meat
They weren’t fed meat
Gladiators ate beans and bread.
homies eating beans
dem homies eatin beans?
A reminder that Commodus is alleged to have reenacted the gigantomachy on the arena by rounding up all the men in Rome who for one reason or other had lost their feet, had fake snakes attached to their stumps in the likeness of the gigantes of myth and had them armed with sponges in place of rocks.
Then he dressed up as his patron Hercules adn beat them to death with a club.
yea that sounds entirely plausible and not made up
Notice the
>alleged
The source for that particular claim is Cassius Dio.
Maybe you too were there and want to set the reccord straight.
uhm sweetie if Vice didn't do an interview about it it didn't happen, learn how to fact check.
Commodus was living his best life and you haters can't stand it.
>perhaps you're craving my mcnuggies?
It was way worse
Yes, it was a much better time
No they weren't that white
>Dabs on every other book ever written
>dude just be a stoic lmao
>t. literal emperor
>Is literally the most powerful man in the world
>Isnt a horrific monster
Yeah im thinking he might have some good points to make
the guy who came up with that was a slave though
I did not say I knew him, I said he touched me on the shoulder once!
>I said he touched me on the shoulder. Are you fricking deaf? I will cut your Spainard balls off.
Kino scene, and they hated each other
literal slave morality
Ironically stoicism was actually the master morality of the ancient world and Christian morality was regarded as the slave morality
t. Nietzsche
>this is so fricked up, were humans really like this once?
You don't watch UFC do you?
The Romans would love NASCAR
They'd fricking hate it
>why are they just going round and round in circles?
>when do they start throwing flaming tar at each other?
>you mean you invented a horseless carriage and this is all you do with it?
>why is no one dead or dying?
>do something!
What is chariot racing?
Boring as shit preshow before the gladiator fun times begin
It's not even in the same building. Besides the real draw of chariot racing was factionalism and gambling
>He actually thinks people ever *stopped* being like that
yes you dumb Black person.
They're actually much worse now.
Holy shit women don't deserve rights.
Who's Cinemaphile favorite Roman emperor and why is it Aurelius?
He's the GOAT, its him or Hadrian or Trajan
for me it's Heliogabalus, homie wanted 1 thing in life and it was wiener.
based gay was willing to doom an empire if he got to crossdress and have gaysex
Gladiators were between 50% and 90% volunteers for most of the time they existed. Gladiators rarely fought more than once a year and even more rarely fought to the death. They had an extremely loyal and tight-knit community to be a part of, and supported each other and each other's families before and after they retired. They also got more pussy than anyone else in Rome.
It's a total farce how modern media represents them.
source: trust me bro
There are innumerable books, documentaries, and videos delving into the detailed life of a gladiator, but what I stated is the most basic level information that a gander through Wikipedia would prove.
Go do actual research on a thing before making up your mind on it.
we literally cut off men's dicks now and call them women. we're a lot more fricked up than back then.
the world is so fricking homosexual and shitty today that fighting in the coliseum seems like a great way to go
you would be dead right now if you lived in ancient rome. and your short life would be no more fulfilling than it is now.
>that one time emperor Titus decided to flood the entire colosseum and then fill it with boats
>all to reenact some giant ancient greek naval battle or his amusement
>he wasn't even the first Roman ruler to something like this
Romans were the most keyneaux civilization to ever exist and you cannot convince me otherwise.
>keyneaux
You know you like it :^)
The logisitcs of doing something like that 2000 years ago completely blows my mind
Why?
It's just water dude, like there's an entire ocean of it
Yeah bro just move enough water to fill the colosseum in buckets, probably only took them like 5 minutes
>what are rivers?
Dumbass
The nearest river is 5km away, the ocean is 30km away. Im sure you have so schizo logic as to why this was so easy
>rivers can't move
Lmao just take the L anon stop embarrassing yourself
can't move
??????????????????????????
bros what did he actually mean by this?
Romans had aqueducts that supplied rome with fresh water miles away.
Moving the goalpost now i see
okay schizo, that's the only comment I have made in the thread.
Sure it is
oh you are right, this thread is only you and one other anon having a flame war.
>t. zoomers who've never worked with their hands
>rome literally on the beachfront
>oh my god how did they like get water to the coomoseum?
redditor
>on the beachfront
>even considering using salt water for this at all
lole
>yeah bro just use the river that's totally nearby instead of the aquaduct to easily deliver it into the colosseum, just carry it in buckets or something
how does it feel to be more moronic than illiterate citydwellers from 2000 years ago, guys?
>pretending like an aquaduct isn't just an artificial river
Wow anon, you're so smart can you tell us the other big words that you like to pointlessly use?
>just dig the new canal into the dead center of rome instead of using the readily available aquaduct above your head bro
holy frick I hope you're baiting or you're the dumbest gorilla Black person I've spoken to on this site in ages
>dig
lmao and you call other people dumb
pls pls pls say you mean they should divert it instead
I wanna laugh
>doesn't know shit about moving rivers or artificial rivers
>laughing at others
Ishiggydiggy
Read a fricking book it will help
>moving rivers
...
>artificial rivers
oh you mean like... a canal?
I doubt you read books you can't even properly read my posts
>I know what a canal is so I'm very smart
kay bud, keep telling yourself that kek
you lost
sneed
How did they manage to capture a tiger without killing it in the process
people back then didn't have sedatives
I don't know, but the Roman's captured thousands of lions, tigers, bears, and most every kind of dangerous creature, and shipped them over to Rome to kill for fun.
Nets and shit, rope. I imagine people got their guts spilled out all the time trying to capture them. Might be easier to toss a net over and capture one while it's nibbling on your friends intestines
Kill the mama and raise the cubs
slaves doing a massive pile on
Very carefully
Baiting into a cage would be my guess. Other anon is probably right though, wouldn't doubt that a lot of guys got killed doing it.
>Retired after 5 years, out of practice
>Old and fat, past his prime
>Still gave Maximus one of his best fights
Prime Tigris must have been quite the show
is that a real toiger!!??!!
We need to go back to this. Also, make slavery mainstream again.
back then humans didnt live for very long. you were knocking on death's door by 40.
That wrong though, humans have always lived into their 80s, its just a lot more people use to die under the age of 1 so it drags the overall average age down
that wrong though
It literally isnt
Romans used lead pipes for their plumping which gave everyone lead poisoning and made them psychotic. same thing happened in the 70's when gas was leaded and pollution was high caused murder rates to skyrocket.
How is this any different from WWE RAW?
Those industries don't buy third worlders, put a loincloth on them and push them into an arena to get their skull caved in by Dwayne Johnson
>dwayne Johnson
>OMG HE HAS BIG MUSCLES THEREFORE HE IS LE GOOD AT FIGHTING
dwayne Johnson would kill most men in a life or death situation. dont get brainwashed by joe rogan. size wins
>mentions WWE
>makes comparison using a WWE star
>autist (you) gets pissy
>HE IS FROM WWE(SUPER REAL) THEREFORE HE COULD KILL EVERYONE
>YEAH DUDE HE IS BIG SO HE CAN CLEARLY KILL FIGHTERS THAT FOUGHT THEIR ENTIRE LIFE DUDE BECAUSE UHMM BECAYUSE HE CAN OK
Original post
>How is this any different from WWE RAW?
Response
>in WWE Dwayne Johnson doesn't kill malnurished third worlders with a club
(You )
>incoherent autistic seething over points no one made
Now kys you misserable c**t
after you stop sucking the rocks dick, you litty gaygit
>I DIDN'T SAY THAT OK????BUT THE ROCK COULD 1000% KILL EVERYONE, JUST LOOK AT HIS MUSCLES DUDE
OMGGGGGGGGGGGG WHAT DO YOU MEABN IT IS ADVANTAGEOUS TO BE SMALL IN BJJ????? NOOOOOOOO THE 6 FOOT 10 100LBS ALWAYS WINS OK?
Bro you are having a legit break down frickin hell
The frick is bj, blowjob? Lol you are such a gay
Holy shit kys you seething triggered manlet cancer
after you stop sucking the rocks dick, you litty gaygit
>t. the rock
BUT THE ROCK COULD 1000% KILL EVERYONE, JUST LOOK AT HIS MUSCLES DUDE
Be honest anons... who upset this manlet over here?
What was his problem?
Just an average northern bloke who likes fish and chips and a pint
>thread about gladiators
>Replies are all about filling the colosseum with water
why are you guys like this
Bringing back our traditions of settling disputes via officially sanctioned and structured death matches would solve a lot of problems.
yes, i would challenge and kill you
all these feels
We peaked with the roman empire, its all been downhill since
You can blame Sejanus for and Tiberius for creating the glowBlack person Praetorian guard that killed every emporer that didn't do what they wanted.
Just Italians
Back then dicky was still on the menu
Guys would do insane things to win the favor of a 8yo
Damn, I didn't know that was why gladiators existed. How come they don't teach this?
no, Ridley Scott is a moron
>HE IS FROM WWE(SUPER REAL) THEREFORE HE COULD KILL EVERYONE
Zeus > All other gods
Bread and circuses?
Is Russell Crowe really that short?
bro i don't remember gladi8or being so short
We still watch people kill each other on TV. sure it's all pretend stuff but that doesn't take away the fact that people like watching heroes slaughter their enemies.
Choose your fighter Cinemaphile
Secutor of course
It really depends on skill. If were assuming all of them have the same skill I would go top middle since he has both a reach and speed advantage
murmillo or secutor, the rest are jobbers
Historically, didn't every trident guy fricking suck?
Trident guy shows the most skin so I am going with him
>be local fisher
>enter coliseum to fight for extra money
>only know net and trident, fight with what I know
>enter the arena
>crowd calls me retiardius
🙁
Obviously pointed out, but gladiator matches were a sport, they weren't just brutal death matches where everyone just went to see heads chopped off and guts everywhere. Gladiators were trained for years in schools, they were bought and sold by rich people based on their winnings or potential winnings, and they were moneymakers for their owners and the event organizers. So if they were constantly dying, there would not be enough skilled, able, and fit men to just replace them and also put on a good show.
People assume that because they used weapons, they were just stabbing each other in the face for the crowd, but the truth is that gladiator matches were much more WWE Pro Wrestling then they were Thunderdome. The men were trained in specific styles of fighting with specific sets of kit, and they were most often matched up against one another for maximum entertainment value.
Some people were executed in the coliseums and arenas, but they usually weren't killed by trained gladiators and certainly no one who had invested thousands and thousands of bucks into a prime fighting man would risk injuring or killing him by giving a group of slave opponents lethal weapons that they might kill him with. The same way no one with a prime street racing car would enter that shit into a monster truck arena. You do that with the cars you've already decided are disposable.
People always exaggerate shit, you probably only got the thumbs down if you did really cowardly shit that made the audience mad. But in general yes those times were crazy as shit