>not listing D’angelo >ishygddt
in the list you provided it’s definitely wallace, homie was just a kid. but D is the absolute worst tragedy as he was literally the only semi-positive influence to young ones in the Barksdale crew
D'Angelo wasn't tragic, he was a huge tryhard wannabe gangster who committed more than 1 murder and worshipped his criminal uncle. But then he suddenly gets pissy when they killed off the kid for being a liability.
Frank. He was fighting unstoppable historical forces in automation and globalization and turned to crime to support his dying union. Not to mention the fact that this is what caused him to overlook all the problems his son was getting into, which ended with him in prison forever.
Yeah, I felt so bad for him >junkie parents that sold his clothes and didn’t have running water >gets bullied in school >socially promoted even though he’s not ready for 9th grade >gets intimidated and goes to the streets with Michael >gets made fun of and beaten up for taking care of Bug >couldn’t find a job and make it as a corner boy >has nowhere to go after Michael leaves >so he joins the company of the homeless and starts using like his parents
The scene with him and Prez at the end is the saddest in the series for me
A lot of tradegies. Wallace didn't deserve to die, he was a mentally stunted kid that played with toys at 16.
Dukie was a smart kid completely and utterly failed by the system and will become the new Bubbles.
Frank tries to stop globohomosexual and paid the price. He saw automaton was going to devastate the community, he did the wrong thing for the right reason, and if we all did that as a collective our pay would increase and we wouldnt be exploited.
D'angelo got fricked over hard, and his babymama didnt cry when he got 20 years, she didnt cry when he got murdered, but she did cry from Stringer died.
Bunny also tried to do the right thing and improved the lives of ordinary citizens, but Washington had an agenda to destroy society, so Hamsterdam had to go.
This whole show makes me sad, its inevitable those in power will destroy us, we really will live in the pod and theres nothing we can do unless you have land
Of all characters, my life is most like Randy. I've been fricked over by the system, i kept speaking to authority expecting the right thing to be done, and instead its lead to misery on my part.
>Dukie was a smart kid completely and utterly failed by the system
How? "The system" didn't make him do drugs lmao, he did that himself when he decided to join up with the junky horsefrickers. >Frank tries to stop globohomosexual and paid the price. He saw automaton was going to devastate the community, he did the wrong thing for the right reason, and if we all did that as a collective our pay would increase and we wouldnt be exploited.
Frank's own trade (stevedoers) and their shipping containers and cranes put manual ship unloaders out of business too in the exact same way. This is really moronic.
One of the most ignored plotlines of the fourth season is the fact that Namond, the most spoiled and least deserving of the kids, was the one who actually got saved in the end. Every single character was more 'deserving' than him. But the fact that Randy, Dukie and Michael got into a shitty situation kind of highlighted the whole point that 'deserve got nothing to do with it'.
>not listing D’angelo >ishygddt
in the list you provided it’s definitely wallace, homie was just a kid. but D is the absolute worst tragedy as he was literally the only semi-positive influence to young ones in the Barksdale crew
Dukie and its not even close. He had no chance. D had some money and agency and could have left the game at any point, or flipped or left baltimore. Wallace was already out of the fricking game and he wandered back in niavely like a 6 year old child. Frank was holding on to a dying industry and could have easily just done something else.
Dukie was so low on the socio-economic totem pole that there was no realistic way for him to make it.
Wallace fricked up on his own, he looked suspicious. Frank snitched. Dukie literally never had a chance to even understand why he was destined to lose. He was just a clueless kid with an awful hand in life.
Most of the worst low quality lack of morals homeless people ive met went through that system. Recently met some girl that already had 3 kids taken away and is due to give birth in a month. I dont wish failure on anyone and i wish she would get her life together since shes only 23. But im also not an idiot and given her track record the future aint looking bright.
They generally correspond in quality to the race (darker foster parents = worse) and socioeconomic status of the foster home. But even in the "good" homes, it's essentially being permanently babysat, so if you have any issues (as a foster child is wont to have) you're gonna come out some degree of fricked regardless. It's really up to the child to do their own growing into an adult by themselves, foster homes are just giving you shelter, food, clothes, basic necessities, and little else.
t. foster kid whose been in the bad homes and the "good" ones
I had a friend who lived in a Mormon foster home. It wasn't bad, it was like the Brady Bunch over there. They had game nights and were super involved with the childrens' school activities. Bunch of the kids there had come in really fricked up by their birth parents and the system, but turned around in that house. I 100% believe it's just about who the foster parents are.
Yeah there are definitely 1 in 10 000 homes, no doubt. But most are somewhere between "barely adequate just in it for the money" and "well meaning but just as dysfunctional as any family. And there are certainly more horror story homes than the kind you describe. But yeah, they're out there.
Great casting. Prop Joe apparently helped coach the child actors on set.
There was a single line that stands out to me. When Dukie comes home to see all their stuff on the curb and the house vacant, there’s kind of a hard cut to him saying, “it don’t mean nothin’”. But it’s a pretty bad read.
They were all black and mostly grew up in Baltimore so they lived it.
Also there is a very good school for the arts in Baltimore (BSA) that churns out lots of actors (Tupac and Jada Pinkett both went there, for example) which is probably where they got most of the cast.
BSA requires you to reaudition every year to stay in, and the kids all take it really seriously because otherwise they're probably going back into the Baltimore City Public School System.
If you saw Chappelle's latest Netflix special about the school he went to in DC, it's basically the same thing.
If you liked the wire, you should definitely check the Corner. Made by the same guys, has the actors who played Lester and Sydnor, and focuses on corner boys and drug addicts. Even interviews the real people they based the characters on at the end. It’s the prototype of the Wire and has even more authenticity to it
Homicide can be torrented: https://thepiratebay.org/search.php?q=Homicide%3A+Life+On+The+Street&all=on&search=Pirate+Search&page=0&orderby=
The first season is even on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft_BBMwXnL4&list=PLVcMB5hpTHTlGLnC89zZzgxdK0WuGIPuF&ab_channel=DepositionsandStuff
. I'm still working my way through Homicide, so I dunno yet about The Corner.
was the scene where he was about to be shot the most well acted scene in the whole show? the director and wallace really nailed the feeling of seeing wallace had been through so much shit but in the end he's still just a child.
Wasn't into gangster flicks and missed out on pretty much all TV and movies since 2002
He pissed himself haha
>help off some gay
>snitch and flee to the countryside
>come back expecting everything to be ok
>???
he finally got a jaw?
nope
Who was the most tragic character, Wallace, Dukie, or Frank?
>not listing D’angelo
>ishygddt
in the list you provided it’s definitely wallace, homie was just a kid. but D is the absolute worst tragedy as he was literally the only semi-positive influence to young ones in the Barksdale crew
D'Angelo is definitely the most tragic figure. Wallace snitched and snitches get stitches, sad but true. Dookie was simply doomed from the start
D'Angelo wasn't tragic, he was a huge tryhard wannabe gangster who committed more than 1 murder and worshipped his criminal uncle. But then he suddenly gets pissy when they killed off the kid for being a liability.
Frank. He was fighting unstoppable historical forces in automation and globalization and turned to crime to support his dying union. Not to mention the fact that this is what caused him to overlook all the problems his son was getting into, which ended with him in prison forever.
Frank was a massive moron who did everything wrong.
Dukie, and it's not even close. He was a fundamentally good kid who couldn't escape the life he was brought up in.
Yeah, I felt so bad for him
>junkie parents that sold his clothes and didn’t have running water
>gets bullied in school
>socially promoted even though he’s not ready for 9th grade
>gets intimidated and goes to the streets with Michael
>gets made fun of and beaten up for taking care of Bug
>couldn’t find a job and make it as a corner boy
>has nowhere to go after Michael leaves
>so he joins the company of the homeless and starts using like his parents
The scene with him and Prez at the end is the saddest in the series for me
Some people are just born to lose
t. Me
Ziggy
A lot of tradegies. Wallace didn't deserve to die, he was a mentally stunted kid that played with toys at 16.
Dukie was a smart kid completely and utterly failed by the system and will become the new Bubbles.
Frank tries to stop globohomosexual and paid the price. He saw automaton was going to devastate the community, he did the wrong thing for the right reason, and if we all did that as a collective our pay would increase and we wouldnt be exploited.
D'angelo got fricked over hard, and his babymama didnt cry when he got 20 years, she didnt cry when he got murdered, but she did cry from Stringer died.
Bunny also tried to do the right thing and improved the lives of ordinary citizens, but Washington had an agenda to destroy society, so Hamsterdam had to go.
This whole show makes me sad, its inevitable those in power will destroy us, we really will live in the pod and theres nothing we can do unless you have land
Randy is another one that got a bad ending.
Of all characters, my life is most like Randy. I've been fricked over by the system, i kept speaking to authority expecting the right thing to be done, and instead its lead to misery on my part.
Frick
>Frank tries to stop globohomosexual and paid the price
>its inevitable those in power will destroy us
Don't pretend we don't deserve it. Anyone weak enough to get got deserves to get got.
Deserve aint nuttin to do with it
>Dukie was a smart kid completely and utterly failed by the system
How? "The system" didn't make him do drugs lmao, he did that himself when he decided to join up with the junky horsefrickers.
>Frank tries to stop globohomosexual and paid the price. He saw automaton was going to devastate the community, he did the wrong thing for the right reason, and if we all did that as a collective our pay would increase and we wouldnt be exploited.
Frank's own trade (stevedoers) and their shipping containers and cranes put manual ship unloaders out of business too in the exact same way. This is really moronic.
Randy's story was also pretty tragic. Got used by both sides.
Did we ever see how bad his foster mom got burned?
They don’t show her, but you see her name on the board with “2nd/3rd degree” written next to it
Randy's was rough bros
kek
One of the most ignored plotlines of the fourth season is the fact that Namond, the most spoiled and least deserving of the kids, was the one who actually got saved in the end. Every single character was more 'deserving' than him. But the fact that Randy, Dukie and Michael got into a shitty situation kind of highlighted the whole point that 'deserve got nothing to do with it'.
I thought that was actually really good.
Who had the best endings?
Bubbles and Shardeen both made it.
Dukie and its not even close. He had no chance. D had some money and agency and could have left the game at any point, or flipped or left baltimore. Wallace was already out of the fricking game and he wandered back in niavely like a 6 year old child. Frank was holding on to a dying industry and could have easily just done something else.
Dukie was so low on the socio-economic totem pole that there was no realistic way for him to make it.
Poot. He never had a chance with that hairline
I think that's an intentionally cut "fade" or "line up" or whatever the frick those """""people""""" call it, and not his natural hairline.
He made it out, and got a job in footlocker
pootlocker
He tries to hide his male-pattern baldness by growing a huge beard.
Wallace fricked up on his own, he looked suspicious. Frank snitched. Dukie literally never had a chance to even understand why he was destined to lose. He was just a clueless kid with an awful hand in life.
Frank. He gave his entire life to the union... literally.
di'angelo
D is the most wojakesque character
Bodie
he went peepee weewee in his pants....he did have nice abandoned house to live in tho
they shoulda put my homie dookie in the game
One tap to that chin would just frick his shit up.
pretty good career after the wir?
Yeah
I hate when the 'good ones' meet a tragic end. Those are the ones that you always hope make it out of the hood somehow
Poot and Namond were the only kids that got out. Everyone else ended up dead, in the game or on drugs. Fricking sad.
Are group homes and foster care bad as the wire makes it out to be?
yes
Most of the worst low quality lack of morals homeless people ive met went through that system. Recently met some girl that already had 3 kids taken away and is due to give birth in a month. I dont wish failure on anyone and i wish she would get her life together since shes only 23. But im also not an idiot and given her track record the future aint looking bright.
They generally correspond in quality to the race (darker foster parents = worse) and socioeconomic status of the foster home. But even in the "good" homes, it's essentially being permanently babysat, so if you have any issues (as a foster child is wont to have) you're gonna come out some degree of fricked regardless. It's really up to the child to do their own growing into an adult by themselves, foster homes are just giving you shelter, food, clothes, basic necessities, and little else.
t. foster kid whose been in the bad homes and the "good" ones
I had a friend who lived in a Mormon foster home. It wasn't bad, it was like the Brady Bunch over there. They had game nights and were super involved with the childrens' school activities. Bunch of the kids there had come in really fricked up by their birth parents and the system, but turned around in that house. I 100% believe it's just about who the foster parents are.
Yeah there are definitely 1 in 10 000 homes, no doubt. But most are somewhere between "barely adequate just in it for the money" and "well meaning but just as dysfunctional as any family. And there are certainly more horror story homes than the kind you describe. But yeah, they're out there.
Mixed bag. You can get lucky, you can strike out. Its like schools, or doctors.
Kenard deserved a worse ending, hated that punk. Michael punching him was so satisfying
>yo, look at this little homie getting his ass beat
Isn’t he shown in the ending montage being arrested for the murder of Omar?
Yes
>>yo, look at this little homie getting his ass beat
Its the little details that make me love this show
Holy shit blacks are so fricking ugly. Who can look at these animals and think they are the same as us and not the missing link?
post face
That guy would later be rated most attractive man of the year or some other shit srsly
>all the child/adolescent characters know how to act, don’t bring the show down, and are some of the best parts of the series
How’d they do it?
All in the game, yo.
Great casting. Prop Joe apparently helped coach the child actors on set.
There was a single line that stands out to me. When Dukie comes home to see all their stuff on the curb and the house vacant, there’s kind of a hard cut to him saying, “it don’t mean nothin’”. But it’s a pretty bad read.
I love how they even found good actors for the minor one off characters.
I love kids like this irl
Vicious sociopathic animals?
You police, he aint
They were all black and mostly grew up in Baltimore so they lived it.
Also there is a very good school for the arts in Baltimore (BSA) that churns out lots of actors (Tupac and Jada Pinkett both went there, for example) which is probably where they got most of the cast.
BSA requires you to reaudition every year to stay in, and the kids all take it really seriously because otherwise they're probably going back into the Baltimore City Public School System.
If you saw Chappelle's latest Netflix special about the school he went to in DC, it's basically the same thing.
They werent acting
What did Cheese mean by this?
If you liked the wire, you should definitely check the Corner. Made by the same guys, has the actors who played Lester and Sydnor, and focuses on corner boys and drug addicts. Even interviews the real people they based the characters on at the end. It’s the prototype of the Wire and has even more authenticity to it
Where can I watch it?
Where can I watch Homicide?
Homicide can be torrented: https://thepiratebay.org/search.php?q=Homicide%3A+Life+On+The+Street&all=on&search=Pirate+Search&page=0&orderby=
The first season is even on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft_BBMwXnL4&list=PLVcMB5hpTHTlGLnC89zZzgxdK0WuGIPuF&ab_channel=DepositionsandStuff
. I'm still working my way through Homicide, so I dunno yet about The Corner.
We Own This City is pretty good, too. The best part id recognizing the shit-ton of Wire actors in it.
My jaw dropped when I recognized Dukie and Donut as adults.
Is that HBO documentary about the real life cop played by Marlo Stanfield's actor any good?
was the scene where he was about to be shot the most well acted scene in the whole show? the director and wallace really nailed the feeling of seeing wallace had been through so much shit but in the end he's still just a child.
i hate this lil Black person
is that the kid that shoots omar?
Why he was hilarious
>t. gump
this the most complex and nuanced scene in television history, i doubt the vast majority of people can understand its subtleties
Fine. FINE. I will watch the scene.
genuinely like the mcnugget scene like 10x more than the chess scene
but who was knight