trek has always been progressive and got more and more woke over time. Thats a fact you fucking secondary. Go back to lower decks with the other shitskin retards.
Trek was always nuanced where nuance was warranted. >pansexual? what’s that? don’t even have a name for it, we’re just attracted to what we’re attracted to it’s nbd >men wearing skirts? We won’t even talk about it. It’s an aesthetic choice and that’s fine! No need to discuss
The TNG gender dysphoria episode literally ends with the alien getting meds and therapy and realize they were misguided, leaving the viewer to kill over what was the truly correct choice, often there being no correct answer. The environmentalism episode ended with them deciding that even though warp drives are killing the sub-space corridor, they’re too important to abandon.
I will say though, for all their progressivism everybody just ignored Data being raped. Which is pretty woke tbph.
Trek’s setting is a communist utopia (achieved by 99.99% of the population being wiped out by nuclear war on top of a “eugenics war”, a fact which everyone always seems to ignore). The humans are supposed to be a base from which our social issues can be explored through the lense of other planets. There are plenty of times the humans look like fools and are chastised for imposing their beliefs on conservative cultures, especially later on in the show’s lifespan.
>There are plenty of times the humans look like fools and are chastised for imposing their beliefs on conservative cultures, especially later on in the show’s lifespan.
examples?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Like half the races voyager interacts with. The lizard people that the show depicted as actual nazis got an unironic “that’s their culture we need to respect it”
2 months ago
Anonymous
>nazis are le evil space reptiles
I think the Hollywood writers were projecting a little hard there.
>leaving the viewer to kill over what was the truly correct choice, often there being no correct answer
The way Trek (and by extension all liberal writers) handles these dilemmas is pretty simple: Is someone trying to impede upon your freedom of expression? Then they bad and most likely fascistic.
In the case of the agender person, it was clear that the collective was in the wrong, though they didn't specifically say it out loud.
> In the case of the agender person, it was clear that the collective was in the wrong, though they didn't specifically say it out loud.
I don’t know about that. I think that’s your gut reaction because what you said about free expression is largely true in the series overall, but that episode in particular if you watch it carefully really does seem to sit the fence. Picard is generally the moral compass while Riker is one who acts brashly without consideration, the fact Picard is vehemently opposed to Riker on this calls the matter into extreme question.
Your reading into it, >if the collective was wrong why didn't the feddies do something about it? They've done more retarded things why not this one?
The feds show a tremendous cultural latitude that would have them showing up to planet chud, seeing us all call them naggers and then chalking it up to cultural differences and leaving.
Oh well, I only remember the weird Voyager episode where some bullshit particle (omega particle?) shows up that has the property of destroying warp travel in the entire galaxy. Somehow.
2 months ago
Anonymous
also if salamaderism was reversible, why didn't they use warp 10 all the time?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>also if salamaderism was reversible, why didn't they use warp 10 all the time?
Because it was a stupid idea my guy. The unspoken convention is that warp changed between TOS and TNG, back in the day not a big deal to go to warp 12 or whatever (if you got the juice) but in the new scale it was logashitmic or whatever that 10 is not possible to reach. It's why they gotta say shit like Warp 9.99, each .9 after the 9 is like +1 warp or some shit. So 10 was impossible. Just like going faster then light is impossible in regular space.
Then they have them do it for some stupid reason by 'using go fast juiceithium' which is dumb. You don't defeat a universal contant that way so the writing when to shit and then everyone realized that and ignored that episode. A reasonably take on it is that Paris discovered the basics of transwarp and like most transwarp things in the feddy he could only ever get it to work once (Despite provably having done it).
2 months ago
Anonymous
>was impossible.
done by discover centuries early
now kys
2 months ago
Anonymous
the "spore drive" in STD is not super fast warp it's literally teleporting from one place to another
and it opens up a whole can of worms which is why it should be discarded along with the rest of that horrible series
2 months ago
Anonymous
My headcanon is that none of the warp plot devices in TOS are in TNG because, much in line with the vibes of the early 90s, the federation of TNG was an over-regulated PC bureaucracy.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>The unspoken convention is that warp changed between TOS and TNG
Indeed. Also, many speculate that the 'failed' Transwarp Drive on the USS Excelsior was still faster than what they were using before and that led to the warp scale changing by the time of TNG and Warp 10 being infinite. Scotty's sabotage of the Excelsior would have been repairable and it wouldn't have been shelved just because of one incident. Of course they fucked it up again in TNG's 'All Good Things...' by going to Warp 13 during the 2395 section. Then again, The Borg (as well as the Voth) could use transwarp speeds that are faster than Warp 10. Though the Borg use transwarp conduits, which seem to have more in common with wormholes, giving them a short-cut through space.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>The unspoken convention is that geezer turned bitter in 2009
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm the anon you replied to. Not the other one you're misquoting.
For me, Star Trek died in 2001. PIC S3 was good fanservice though, despite some issues.
All I fucking wanted was TNG-era plus 20 years. Even one set a century later with a clean break.
Instead, STD made the far future a shitty one with a collapsed Federation and dilithium fuck-ups.
Trek needed a break. Just a shame it's all pozzed and prequels now. Fuck the reboots too.
I'm pissed at Stewart and Spiner for ruining the TNG movies (and derailing the franchise) with their story/slary demands.
Anyway, I just wanted to expand on what the other anon said.
2 months ago
Anonymous
trek did not die
you did
2 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong, troon. Go rope yourself.
2 months ago
Anonymous
bitter boomer confirmed
2 months ago
Anonymous
Fanservice is never good, it is the death of creativity.
The Next Generation S7 E09 "Force Of Nature". It's discovered going warp past 5 was starting to literally tear apart the fabric of the universe and that Starfleet would restrict all warp travel to Warp 5 or lower. Given that this was a one off episode on a cable tv show in its oast season with two ongoing spin offs happening at the same time, it's obvious that this interesting idea and moral dilemma was immediately forgotten about and not even mentioned by the next episode.
That was always the fundamental problem with trying to do moral or ethical storytelling on Trek shows. There were never any longterm consequences and the cast never had to actually deal with the outcomes of their actions, which makes the whole exercise pointless. Everything just neatly resolves itself OR the crew never has to deal with it ever again. That's why DS9 is inherently the best Trek show, since they weren't in a position where they could just warp away from their problems (but being as it was still a cable tv show with cable tv writers, these problems rarely if ever actually impacted the crew - still, the potential was there and sometimes old problems did come back which makes it leaps and bounds better than the other ship based Star Treks when it came to moral issues).
It’s so weird how sci fi always bails on that idea. It was one of the proposed motivations for the reapers in Mass Effect too (made a fuckton more sense both on a practical and meta level than what they went with im still mad)
How the fuck does warp tech "rip" space apart anyway? Sounds grim and interesting but also kinda contrived.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Subspace tearing iirc.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Seems like they were making rips in subspace that were kinda like black holes or something.
It’s so weird how sci fi always bails on that idea. It was one of the proposed motivations for the reapers in Mass Effect too (made a fuckton more sense both on a practical and meta level than what they went with im still mad)
Taking away free and easy warp travel makes world building too hard for sci fi writers and it totally eliminates grand space opera potential, since space travel would be relegated to very slowly moving through the void while everyone is in some form of stasis, meaning whatever problem they're flying toward to solve would've been long resolved one way or another by the time they got there. Even "hard" sci-fi like the Expanse always wind up creating FTL or FTL like travel in the end because most of the audience inevitably gets bored being stuck in the same solar system with slow moving ships.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It's almost like humans weren't meant to leave their planet or something...
The non binary society episode was obviously an attempt to encourage acceptance of people with an identity outside the accepted bounds of American society. But it falls victim to a common science fiction writing trope: making real life's normal/privileged position the victim.
This technique is clearly intended to encourage empathy in the audience for those in this position IRL, but in practice it just sends the message that there's a reason these sidelined people are sidelined IRL, ie we're doing the right thing already.
TNG made this mistake before with the season 1 patriarchy episode where men are an oppressed underclass. It's a shame they made the mistake again, though I wonder if they were limited with what they could explicitly express as sympathetic by the producers.
The matriarchy episode was funny since it wasn’t a matriarchy but a patriarchy where the chicks have dicks and the men have vagina and booba. The non binary society episode was more ambiguous though, im still laughing at how Riker/Worf didn’t get court marshaled for beaming down to another planet’s mental hospital and physically assaulting the doctors and orderlies. I think for it to be unambiguous the tranny character would have been made to show they had somehow been “changed” or lost a piece of themselves, but they were entirely lucid at the end and basically just >uh bro I was mentally ill and now that I took my meds im feeling much better
If anything I read it as the show having consternation primarily against Riker for being a selfish hornball and thinking about what gets his dick wet rather than the ramifications of eliciting the alien to sever ties with their culture. the messaging had a subtle “do not impose human values or ideals on another species” slant. An ideology that Picard’s character believes in deeply.
I really hate that we can't have third gender tropes in scifi anymore with getting a shitshow on your hands from left and right. It's what makes things more "scifi" in my opinion, but trannies have pretty much tainted that whole avenue of potential fiction forever.
pretty girls kissing or making out is not "woke" nor "progressive". This is what shitlibs like to say but in reality lesbians have always been an eye candy for straight male audience.
You mean at the same time they couldn't make garak gay because it would obviously cause trouble? >Queer revisionism has always astounded me
Most of the writers were trying to make good or at least interesting tv up until the end of the enterprise. Where there people trying to 'push the envelope'? Yes. Look at Avery brooks, pushing the envelope by showing a black man as a caring father. That was woke back in the day.
Then fags got their way once and told they can do no wrong and immediately started going after the children. Go figure.
Everybody wanted the short season, serialized format so they could compare themselves to prestige television, but none of these studio people have the attention span or singular vision necessary to make that work so we end up with 7 hours of filler in a 10 hour movie.
If it was modern trek there’d be a white guy standing there going “yuck” and then a few f-bombs and quippy one liners later he’s dead at the end of the episode after the lesbians save the federation from the multiverse canon and he is shown how incompetent he is.
>If this was an episode made in modern Trek Cinemaphile would bitch and whine about it being "progressive" and "woke".
Two how women kissing as always been the most allowed form of homosexuality.
Is the joke that all of the 'hot spots' for tranny porn follow the historical nagger belt where all the counties are almost exclusively naggers? It's especially noticeable with the Mississippi Delta region.
Actually yes. If i get what I want (two hot making out) then other consenting adults should get what they want (cutting off their own dicks to satisfy their dysphoria). It's called live and let live. >inb4 "oh but they're trying to influence the childreeeeeeen"
So are gang members, drug pushers, religious zealots, social media "influencers," etc etc. It is the parents' job to protect the children and teach them which paths to follow and which to eschew. Bitch less and be a better parent.
It’s upsetting that these other goobers don’t understand that the uproar would be because one’s a trans, not because they’re lesbians. Watch the show, guys.
Not gonna lie, "The Serene Squall" (the episode you're referring to) is right next to "Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach" and "Spock Amock" (I know LD fans love this ep, but I'm not a LD fan) which is exactly where I switched gears from "this is pretty good" to "holy shit this is awful".
The first half of Season 1 gave so much hope and then it all degraded so bad we got episodes like "All Those Who Wander".
My issues with Serene Squall is that it made me feel dirty due to the very weak writing. I did think the tranny was kinda hot and cool personally and would not mind his return to the series, in some ways eventually.
T. Closeted homosexual forced to confront their erection
I don't have a GF. I have a loving wife. I get to stay.
That’s hilarious. I wonder if she would just divorce you and take the kids or straight up murder you with a kitchen knife if she knew you and your gay butt buddies fantasized about gang raping children on the internet
That's because if the episode was today it fucking would be woke. You haven't watched this episode, it outright condemns Jadzia for even considering abandoning her cultural and social duties in pursuit of such a romance.
Not if they paid attention to the plot you just explained. That’s not woke. That’s basic fag oppression. That was the point. The federation would look bad to a woke person. I’m not saying black people cant be racist or whatever but you shouldn’t try to use phrases like “woke”. When you deliberately misconstrue something so vague you’re not revising anyone else’s understanding of its definition the purple people can’t hear you scream here. Stop trying to make sense of that word and I bet your head would hurt 2% less. Woke really just means up to date on current events so it is by definition not woke by todays standards maybe it appears that way to someone as regressive as you
>Not if they paid attention to the plot you just explained. That’s not woke. That’s basic fag oppression.
I mean yeah it is, but the show presents it as a legitimate opinion, and Jadzia as being kind of selfish for not accepting it. If the episode were written today, it would have validated and rewarded her rejection of the trill cultural norm. Hell, I would argue that the episode was rather regressive even at the time. There was a whole (fucking awful) episode about Riker banging a space tranny in TNG. >Woke really just means up to date on current events
No, it's just a deliberately infantile label for socially progressivist.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>No, it's just a deliberately infantile label for socially progressivist.
You are incorrect. You’re poisoning your mind with a false anti definition of your perceived enemies new slang from four years ago. You need psychiatric treatment old nagger
2 months ago
Anonymous
It means up to date on current events. It means tracking. I want you to remember while you say words you cannot understand like an infant through tears we plot in plain site
I'm really, really fucking tired of barely literate spics trying to tell me what English fucking words mean.
2 months ago
Anonymous
You’re just trolling now. You’re dismissed
2 months ago
Anonymous
It means up to date on current events. It means tracking. I want you to remember while you say words you cannot understand like an infant through tears we plot in plain site
As in, if it was made today, it would be written differently than it was, probably in a way that glorified Dax's decision and maybe even condemned the Trill cultural rejection of "re-association".
You don't live on indefinitely. The Trill does. Your personality and brain gets guro'd by the symbiote. This is made explicitly clear in the show. Before she was killed by the parasite Jadzia was shy, clumsy, and unconfident and had no real skills to speak of. As soon as they put the Dax parasite in her her entire personality disappeared and she became the Dax parasite, there was nothing left of her old personality. It's also why the parasites have no strong desire to go back and visit their children or ancestors, even if their host died prematurely and their children are still around, because they don't view the genetic offering of the Trill as being a part of themselves.
Congrats, you've uncovered the truth about Trill controlling their hosts completely and only using their memories to charade as the current host they're infiltrating.
>It's also why the parasites have no strong desire to go back and visit their children or ancestors
Yes they do you retard, that's literally one of the first things discussed in the episode in the OP. Trill do miss their old life but the laws of their planet forbid mingling with that old life.
Coomers giving hot dykes a pass is why this shit is normalized. Give these people an inch because your dick twitches and they'll take miles and we end up with boys in drag in the streets.
because they show me how the show I invested so much time and passion was a silly and full of false morality, and if I admit that I have to admit I wasted time with crap, so I have to double down so I can feel validated hating new things.
TOS and TMP enterprise were suppose to be around 300 metered long, and mass 300,000 metric tons. This would make it approximately as long as an large aircraft carrier but three times as massive. I haven't actually worked out the volume of the star ship, but eyeballing it tells me it's a pretty space inefficient design, meaning it has a lot of dimension and surface ares for not much interior volume. The primary hull is on average maybe 3 decks thick. The secondary hull has at most 1/8 the volumn of an aircraft carrier hull. The hull of a large aircraft carrier almost certainly has much more interior volume in total than the TOS enterprise.
Have you noticed that non-general Trek threads are way better and not just 99% reposts of reposts of overused 20 year old memes that nobody replies to?
Why are you linking to unrelated threads with creepy behavior?
2 months ago
Anonymous
The creepy behavior is related.
The dtc made underage actress fandom thread lore this year. You must’ve heard. And role play chat rooms are the backbone of this “community”
2 months ago
Anonymous
You are ascribing a lot to this "DTC" on a site with hundreds of thousands of anonymous users per day. If you see off topic or rule breaking posts, there's a system to get it to mod attention. Conspiratorial thinking solves nothing
2 months ago
Anonymous
/trek/ has fewer than twenty regulars and at least five are chomos. That’s not an anomaly. You’re a pedomount shill
2 months ago
Anonymous
Not relevant!! This isn't /trek/, this is a thread about a Dax episode.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Amusing since you're the only person ever discussing molesting children in /trek/ and you do it literally all day
2 months ago
Anonymous
I think he must be projecting. Badly. Like in Unification II.
2 months ago
Anonymous
He reminds me of that DrPizza homosexual from Twitter, constantly ranting about how fucked up pedos are when he is himself a literal pedo
2 months ago
Anonymous
You tried
2 months ago
Anonymous
>One post from a year ago that may or may not even be real and if real is clearly a joke >Meanwhile PAnon's rants are very real and taking place daily including ITT
You tried
2 months ago
Anonymous
The only lesson is that this schizo is too dumb to getting sarcasm. I thought Trek elevated the mind, guess we are wrong.
2 months ago
Anonymous
You are literally certifiably retarded
2 months ago
Anonymous
This is projection
2 months ago
Anonymous
No. You are literally a schizophrenic retarded pedophile. You think you cannot be caught. You already have
2 months ago
Anonymous
Nah those trips already proved you're a tard
2 months ago
Anonymous
You are literally a schizophrenic retard
2 months ago
Anonymous
OK retard
2 months ago
Anonymous
Cadet B is going to testify against you in federal court
2 months ago
Anonymous
OK retard
2 months ago
Anonymous
Your supposed magnum opus is having spent the last year trying to convince one random person that annoyed you that you were a pedophile in an attempt to “troll”. Who do you think is going to buy that? You’re cooked. You’re retarded. You are plummeting to your death masturbating furiously
2 months ago
Anonymous
You were acting like pedophiles LOOOOONNNNGGG before I ever called you out. I’d already watched you dox people. I’m not scared of you anymore pedophile. You are a fucking retard and you’re cooked
OK retard
2 months ago
Anonymous
Anon. I’m better than you. What does that make you?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Sane.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Sane people do not spend their lives trying to drive people crazy. The worst thing anyone’s ever been able to call me itt without knowingly or unknowingly lying is a such and such with a heart of gold. You are not sane. You hang around people that talk about raping children. You are objectively the lowest rung of complete outcasts in society. Dangerous and mentally ill. People like my brother also see themselves as innocent. They are schizophrenic like you. You will rationalize anything. No one will ever believe you and that’s good because you are a pathological liar and a criminal
2 months ago
Anonymous
I concede to your trips. You are an insane moron with a heart of gold. And a brain of pudding.
2 months ago
Anonymous
You were acting like pedophiles LOOOOONNNNGGG before I ever called you out. I’d already watched you dox people. I’m not scared of you anymore pedophile. You are a fucking retard and you’re cooked
2 months ago
Anonymous
Did you see his pic? He's even got a p*do stache
2 months ago
Anonymous
And failed
2 months ago
Anonymous
With the funny Chris Farley meme, very nice. Now where's the part where actual harmful content is posted
tbh I haven't watched any of twin peaks
I remember it was some TNG episode that had some important girl being escorted aboard the enterprise and some people who helped her (a girl - anya of the picture - and an old lady) and a violent monster appearing sometimes turned out to be all the same shape-shifting person that accompanied and actually helped grow her and turned into the monster to defend her against an unjustly perceived threat at one point of the episode
also remember having her in the spank bank for quite a while while that episodes' memories lasted
You know what my schizophrenic pedo brother did when I finally got him locked up? He tried to convince them I was the crazy one. You know what the nurse had to do when we talked about that? Try not to laugh
If this was an episode made in modern Trek Cinemaphile would bitch and whine about it being "progressive" and "woke".
trek has always been progressive and got more and more woke over time. Thats a fact you fucking secondary. Go back to lower decks with the other shitskin retards.
>it was only a little woke at first, therefor it is impervious to criticism!
Someone explain this chud logic to me.
youre saying its impervious so you have an imaginary opponent no one here is saying that.
Trek was always nuanced where nuance was warranted.
>pansexual? what’s that? don’t even have a name for it, we’re just attracted to what we’re attracted to it’s nbd
>men wearing skirts? We won’t even talk about it. It’s an aesthetic choice and that’s fine! No need to discuss
The TNG gender dysphoria episode literally ends with the alien getting meds and therapy and realize they were misguided, leaving the viewer to kill over what was the truly correct choice, often there being no correct answer. The environmentalism episode ended with them deciding that even though warp drives are killing the sub-space corridor, they’re too important to abandon.
I will say though, for all their progressivism everybody just ignored Data being raped. Which is pretty woke tbph.
*kill = mull
still very christcuckly onesided
Trek’s setting is a communist utopia (achieved by 99.99% of the population being wiped out by nuclear war on top of a “eugenics war”, a fact which everyone always seems to ignore). The humans are supposed to be a base from which our social issues can be explored through the lense of other planets. There are plenty of times the humans look like fools and are chastised for imposing their beliefs on conservative cultures, especially later on in the show’s lifespan.
>There are plenty of times the humans look like fools and are chastised for imposing their beliefs on conservative cultures, especially later on in the show’s lifespan.
examples?
Like half the races voyager interacts with. The lizard people that the show depicted as actual nazis got an unironic “that’s their culture we need to respect it”
>nazis are le evil space reptiles
I think the Hollywood writers were projecting a little hard there.
Voyager was so fucking stupid
double standards
typical hypocrite
>99.99% of the population being wiped out by nuclear war on top of a “eugenics war"
Except not. Your numbers are highly exaggerated.
eugenics war is unclear af
on purpose
10 million humans remained after the nuclear war.
>10 million humans remained after the nuclear war.
all gay
>Trek’s setting is a communist utopia
Wrong
>achieved by 99.99% of the population being wiped out by nuclear war on top of a “eugenics war”
Wrong
enlighten us then homosexual
>30% of the Human population - WW3
>thirty million to tens of millions of deaths - Eugenics Wars
Nowhere near 99.99%.
>communist
Define your imaginary system and then I'll tell you exactly how that doesn't apply to the Federation, brainlet.
provide facts and sources
Get raped retard
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Eugenics_Wars
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/World_War_III
I edited them
Starfleet officers value the truth over their petty egos. Be like them.
like communist drones, I see
the history of the federation is false propaganda
>leaving the viewer to kill over what was the truly correct choice, often there being no correct answer
The way Trek (and by extension all liberal writers) handles these dilemmas is pretty simple: Is someone trying to impede upon your freedom of expression? Then they bad and most likely fascistic.
In the case of the agender person, it was clear that the collective was in the wrong, though they didn't specifically say it out loud.
> In the case of the agender person, it was clear that the collective was in the wrong, though they didn't specifically say it out loud.
I don’t know about that. I think that’s your gut reaction because what you said about free expression is largely true in the series overall, but that episode in particular if you watch it carefully really does seem to sit the fence. Picard is generally the moral compass while Riker is one who acts brashly without consideration, the fact Picard is vehemently opposed to Riker on this calls the matter into extreme question.
only a puny human
would conceive that in the entire universe no race would have bio-trans and agender races
That's the conflict between individual liberty vs. "the need of the many" etc. which nobody has solved yet.
the needs of the race with the highest IQ
Even a very smart race is made up of individuals.
what makes a retard a retard?
we have to draw the line otherwise retards would chose stupid stuff
excusez-moi
>living things
>logical
>TayTay
>Tranny TayTay
I'd nut in both of them, one right after the other
Your reading into it,
>if the collective was wrong why didn't the feddies do something about it? They've done more retarded things why not this one?
The feds show a tremendous cultural latitude that would have them showing up to planet chud, seeing us all call them naggers and then chalking it up to cultural differences and leaving.
These are the voyages….
>The environmentalism episode ended with them deciding that even though warp drives are killing the sub-space corridor
I don't remember this. Is this from NuDrek?
a TNG episode that got completely ignored
Oh well, I only remember the weird Voyager episode where some bullshit particle (omega particle?) shows up that has the property of destroying warp travel in the entire galaxy. Somehow.
also if salamaderism was reversible, why didn't they use warp 10 all the time?
>also if salamaderism was reversible, why didn't they use warp 10 all the time?
Because it was a stupid idea my guy. The unspoken convention is that warp changed between TOS and TNG, back in the day not a big deal to go to warp 12 or whatever (if you got the juice) but in the new scale it was logashitmic or whatever that 10 is not possible to reach. It's why they gotta say shit like Warp 9.99, each .9 after the 9 is like +1 warp or some shit. So 10 was impossible. Just like going faster then light is impossible in regular space.
Then they have them do it for some stupid reason by 'using go fast juiceithium' which is dumb. You don't defeat a universal contant that way so the writing when to shit and then everyone realized that and ignored that episode. A reasonably take on it is that Paris discovered the basics of transwarp and like most transwarp things in the feddy he could only ever get it to work once (Despite provably having done it).
>was impossible.
done by discover centuries early
now kys
the "spore drive" in STD is not super fast warp it's literally teleporting from one place to another
and it opens up a whole can of worms which is why it should be discarded along with the rest of that horrible series
My headcanon is that none of the warp plot devices in TOS are in TNG because, much in line with the vibes of the early 90s, the federation of TNG was an over-regulated PC bureaucracy.
>The unspoken convention is that warp changed between TOS and TNG
Indeed. Also, many speculate that the 'failed' Transwarp Drive on the USS Excelsior was still faster than what they were using before and that led to the warp scale changing by the time of TNG and Warp 10 being infinite. Scotty's sabotage of the Excelsior would have been repairable and it wouldn't have been shelved just because of one incident. Of course they fucked it up again in TNG's 'All Good Things...' by going to Warp 13 during the 2395 section. Then again, The Borg (as well as the Voth) could use transwarp speeds that are faster than Warp 10. Though the Borg use transwarp conduits, which seem to have more in common with wormholes, giving them a short-cut through space.
>The unspoken convention is that geezer turned bitter in 2009
I'm the anon you replied to. Not the other one you're misquoting.
For me, Star Trek died in 2001. PIC S3 was good fanservice though, despite some issues.
All I fucking wanted was TNG-era plus 20 years. Even one set a century later with a clean break.
Instead, STD made the far future a shitty one with a collapsed Federation and dilithium fuck-ups.
Trek needed a break. Just a shame it's all pozzed and prequels now. Fuck the reboots too.
I'm pissed at Stewart and Spiner for ruining the TNG movies (and derailing the franchise) with their story/slary demands.
Anyway, I just wanted to expand on what the other anon said.
trek did not die
you did
Wrong, troon. Go rope yourself.
bitter boomer confirmed
Fanservice is never good, it is the death of creativity.
Do you even watch real Star Trek, bro?
In all seriousness, this was rendered moot by the time Voyager launches, with 'safe' warp engines, less than a year later.
The Next Generation S7 E09 "Force Of Nature". It's discovered going warp past 5 was starting to literally tear apart the fabric of the universe and that Starfleet would restrict all warp travel to Warp 5 or lower. Given that this was a one off episode on a cable tv show in its oast season with two ongoing spin offs happening at the same time, it's obvious that this interesting idea and moral dilemma was immediately forgotten about and not even mentioned by the next episode.
That was always the fundamental problem with trying to do moral or ethical storytelling on Trek shows. There were never any longterm consequences and the cast never had to actually deal with the outcomes of their actions, which makes the whole exercise pointless. Everything just neatly resolves itself OR the crew never has to deal with it ever again. That's why DS9 is inherently the best Trek show, since they weren't in a position where they could just warp away from their problems (but being as it was still a cable tv show with cable tv writers, these problems rarely if ever actually impacted the crew - still, the potential was there and sometimes old problems did come back which makes it leaps and bounds better than the other ship based Star Treks when it came to moral issues).
It’s so weird how sci fi always bails on that idea. It was one of the proposed motivations for the reapers in Mass Effect too (made a fuckton more sense both on a practical and meta level than what they went with im still mad)
How the fuck does warp tech "rip" space apart anyway? Sounds grim and interesting but also kinda contrived.
Subspace tearing iirc.
Seems like they were making rips in subspace that were kinda like black holes or something.
Taking away free and easy warp travel makes world building too hard for sci fi writers and it totally eliminates grand space opera potential, since space travel would be relegated to very slowly moving through the void while everyone is in some form of stasis, meaning whatever problem they're flying toward to solve would've been long resolved one way or another by the time they got there. Even "hard" sci-fi like the Expanse always wind up creating FTL or FTL like travel in the end because most of the audience inevitably gets bored being stuck in the same solar system with slow moving ships.
It's almost like humans weren't meant to leave their planet or something...
The non binary society episode was obviously an attempt to encourage acceptance of people with an identity outside the accepted bounds of American society. But it falls victim to a common science fiction writing trope: making real life's normal/privileged position the victim.
This technique is clearly intended to encourage empathy in the audience for those in this position IRL, but in practice it just sends the message that there's a reason these sidelined people are sidelined IRL, ie we're doing the right thing already.
TNG made this mistake before with the season 1 patriarchy episode where men are an oppressed underclass. It's a shame they made the mistake again, though I wonder if they were limited with what they could explicitly express as sympathetic by the producers.
The matriarchy episode was funny since it wasn’t a matriarchy but a patriarchy where the chicks have dicks and the men have vagina and booba. The non binary society episode was more ambiguous though, im still laughing at how Riker/Worf didn’t get court marshaled for beaming down to another planet’s mental hospital and physically assaulting the doctors and orderlies. I think for it to be unambiguous the tranny character would have been made to show they had somehow been “changed” or lost a piece of themselves, but they were entirely lucid at the end and basically just
>uh bro I was mentally ill and now that I took my meds im feeling much better
If anything I read it as the show having consternation primarily against Riker for being a selfish hornball and thinking about what gets his dick wet rather than the ramifications of eliciting the alien to sever ties with their culture. the messaging had a subtle “do not impose human values or ideals on another species” slant. An ideology that Picard’s character believes in deeply.
I really hate that we can't have third gender tropes in scifi anymore with getting a shitshow on your hands from left and right. It's what makes things more "scifi" in my opinion, but trannies have pretty much tainted that whole avenue of potential fiction forever.
without*
pretty girls kissing or making out is not "woke" nor "progressive". This is what shitlibs like to say but in reality lesbians have always been an eye candy for straight male audience.
>pretty girls kissing or making out is not "woke" nor "progressive"
It very much was when this aired in the 90s.
no it wasn't
Of course you wouldn't know because you weren't alive back then, zoomie.
I was there, what is the deal?
"woke" wasn't even a thing in the 90s
it was called "politically correct" but same thing
PC culture shift started in the 90s.
powers ranges were perfectly diverse
Nobody saw lesbians as anything political in the 90s. We just thought it was hot.
You mean at the same time they couldn't make garak gay because it would obviously cause trouble?
>Queer revisionism has always astounded me
Most of the writers were trying to make good or at least interesting tv up until the end of the enterprise. Where there people trying to 'push the envelope'? Yes. Look at Avery brooks, pushing the envelope by showing a black man as a caring father. That was woke back in the day.
Then fags got their way once and told they can do no wrong and immediately started going after the children. Go figure.
Them just kissing and going at it is not woke. Them having a 'relationship' is. End of. You know the distinction, stop being a moron.
>moving the goal post
that's not the issue with modern trek, though.
the shitty writing and lack of theater acting is.
there is nothing wrong with modern writing other than yourself that is jaded and bitter fucktard
>there is nothing wrong with modern writing
Lmao
kys boomer
It just needs a light sprinkle of theatre acting, lower budget and more episodes, in trying to binge watch another universe
TV seasons only barely having 10 episodes these days is fucking pathetic
Everybody wanted the short season, serialized format so they could compare themselves to prestige television, but none of these studio people have the attention span or singular vision necessary to make that work so we end up with 7 hours of filler in a 10 hour movie.
If it was modern trek there’d be a white guy standing there going “yuck” and then a few f-bombs and quippy one liners later he’s dead at the end of the episode after the lesbians save the federation from the multiverse canon and he is shown how incompetent he is.
Two attractive, feminine lesbians kissing is fucking hot in any time period. If it where modern Trek, it would be two dyed hair butch dykes
Pretty sure they would've been stoned to death in the middle ages, crucified in Roman times and hung from the gallows in ancient Mesopotamia.
star trek is about the future
why would you carry this outdated concepts into the future?
I was going against his point of hot lesbian action being accepted "in any time period"
You're right. The Romans would rather fuck little boys than see hot girls kiss.
One of the only few things that made Romans based.
Yeah but that’s also true if you ate the wrong kind of fish while in the company of a tax collector
>If this was an episode made in modern Trek Cinemaphile would bitch and whine about it being "progressive" and "woke".
Two how women kissing as always been the most allowed form of homosexuality.
Yeah, it's set in the future. Do you expect it to have 1970s rural Alabama values?
>implying Alabama is puritan or even conservative
Is the joke that all of the 'hot spots' for tranny porn follow the historical nagger belt where all the counties are almost exclusively naggers? It's especially noticeable with the Mississippi Delta region.
>it's da noooogs!
Every single time.
>ackchually, two hot women making out is woke, so now you have to support trannies
Actually yes. If i get what I want (two hot making out) then other consenting adults should get what they want (cutting off their own dicks to satisfy their dysphoria). It's called live and let live.
>inb4 "oh but they're trying to influence the childreeeeeeen"
So are gang members, drug pushers, religious zealots, social media "influencers," etc etc. It is the parents' job to protect the children and teach them which paths to follow and which to eschew. Bitch less and be a better parent.
jake sisco was sure fucking the ferengi kid
I thought that was Quark's head in the bottom corner.
I wish we would get a wholesome chad/transgirl (Hunter Schafer) star trek coupling already!
Angel / Pike in Telos IV?
FPBP
It’s upsetting that these other goobers don’t understand that the uproar would be because one’s a trans, not because they’re lesbians. Watch the show, guys.
yeschad.jpg
People don't hate nu-Trek because it's woke, they hate it because it's shit.
You are fooling no one, SNW was actually mildly well-received in these threads until people saw a transgender villain and lost their shit.
Star Trek and /trek/ are too very different beasts.
Good thing the guy I was replying to is in a /trek/ thread, then.
so glad you dont breed
I get mad pussy retard incel homosexual bitch
Not gonna lie, "The Serene Squall" (the episode you're referring to) is right next to "Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach" and "Spock Amock" (I know LD fans love this ep, but I'm not a LD fan) which is exactly where I switched gears from "this is pretty good" to "holy shit this is awful".
The first half of Season 1 gave so much hope and then it all degraded so bad we got episodes like "All Those Who Wander".
My issues with Serene Squall is that it made me feel dirty due to the very weak writing. I did think the tranny was kinda hot and cool personally and would not mind his return to the series, in some ways eventually.
T. Closeted homosexual forced to confront their erection
That’s hilarious. I wonder if she would just divorce you and take the kids or straight up murder you with a kitchen knife if she knew you and your gay butt buddies fantasized about gang raping children on the internet
>T. Closeted homosexual forced to confront their erection
At what point in time did I say i was closeted, you fucking chud incel
>mildly well-received
>Hey at least it's not as shit as the other ones!
>implying I make my viewing decisions based off of what some anonymous Euro complains about on a sanskrit weather balloon emporium
Actually they hate it because it's both.
only if they are ugly
hot lesbians should always be the tv standard to appeal to the stupids
That's because if the episode was today it fucking would be woke. You haven't watched this episode, it outright condemns Jadzia for even considering abandoning her cultural and social duties in pursuit of such a romance.
That’s the opposite of woke nimrod
I said if it was made today that it would be.
Not if they paid attention to the plot you just explained. That’s not woke. That’s basic fag oppression. That was the point. The federation would look bad to a woke person. I’m not saying black people cant be racist or whatever but you shouldn’t try to use phrases like “woke”. When you deliberately misconstrue something so vague you’re not revising anyone else’s understanding of its definition the purple people can’t hear you scream here. Stop trying to make sense of that word and I bet your head would hurt 2% less. Woke really just means up to date on current events so it is by definition not woke by todays standards maybe it appears that way to someone as regressive as you
>Not if they paid attention to the plot you just explained. That’s not woke. That’s basic fag oppression.
I mean yeah it is, but the show presents it as a legitimate opinion, and Jadzia as being kind of selfish for not accepting it. If the episode were written today, it would have validated and rewarded her rejection of the trill cultural norm. Hell, I would argue that the episode was rather regressive even at the time. There was a whole (fucking awful) episode about Riker banging a space tranny in TNG.
>Woke really just means up to date on current events
No, it's just a deliberately infantile label for socially progressivist.
>No, it's just a deliberately infantile label for socially progressivist.
You are incorrect. You’re poisoning your mind with a false anti definition of your perceived enemies new slang from four years ago. You need psychiatric treatment old nagger
I'm really, really fucking tired of barely literate spics trying to tell me what English fucking words mean.
You’re just trolling now. You’re dismissed
It means up to date on current events. It means tracking. I want you to remember while you say words you cannot understand like an infant through tears we plot in plain site
As in, if it was made today, it would be written differently than it was, probably in a way that glorified Dax's decision and maybe even condemned the Trill cultural rejection of "re-association".
and they would be right
You’re a gay nagger
I get why you'd think that but no, a clip of two hot chicks making out will never, ever be controversial on /tv,/
wrong. OP's pic depicts two beautiful women kissing each other. modern woke bs would show us some ugly "chick" kissing a trans guy. getting 100% on RT
>>this made trekboomers cum in their pants
fuck yeah it did
>whole episode is centered around two spacetrannies kissing
>trannies
Trill are not trannies.
They literally are.
the parasite is not gendered
but if most of his first lives was male, it may get used to it
So on top of transitioning between male and female bodies, the Trill itself is nonbinary? Interesting.
The symbiont is literally a little worm creature
>The symbiont is literally a little worm creature
GOOOLD?
they're genderqueer
the geezers? yes
they are nonbinary
yes
No, I prefer Ezri.
This and the Sarah Michelle Geller & Selma Blair kiss
>trekboomers
don't we have a better term for that?
we'll take away all ur pr0n and then we'll show you the scene again in a year
trekkers or trekkies they're synonymous
>we'll take away all ur pr0n and then we'll show you the scene again in a year
we have AI now, stupid geezer
then we'll take away as well for that authentic 20th century feel
One week of nofap and my dick feels like it wants to go on a rampage.
Geezers
Troomers
Yeah, cuz it was hot.
I'm sure, I probably jacked off to this in the late 90s
>zoomies only have ugly zoomers and trannies
Pure sour grapes
Trill are a legit disgusting parasites that should be destroyed. I always found it weird they would agree to put this thing inside a host.
>Trill are a legit disgusting parasites that should be destroyed.
like taking care of the elderly
You get to live on almost indefinitely, as long as you're ok with sharing your mind and memories with dozens of other people.
including being bummed by a klingon
Yeah if one of the hosts is a complete degenerate it kinda sucks for the rest of them, because they have to live with it for the rest of their lives
I wish we could put chuds into the bodies of women. That's be fun. 🙂
weren't they doing it to themselves already?
You don't live on indefinitely. The Trill does. Your personality and brain gets guro'd by the symbiote. This is made explicitly clear in the show. Before she was killed by the parasite Jadzia was shy, clumsy, and unconfident and had no real skills to speak of. As soon as they put the Dax parasite in her her entire personality disappeared and she became the Dax parasite, there was nothing left of her old personality. It's also why the parasites have no strong desire to go back and visit their children or ancestors, even if their host died prematurely and their children are still around, because they don't view the genetic offering of the Trill as being a part of themselves.
It's an incredibly disturbing species.
Congrats, you've uncovered the truth about Trill controlling their hosts completely and only using their memories to charade as the current host they're infiltrating.
>It's also why the parasites have no strong desire to go back and visit their children or ancestors
Yes they do you retard, that's literally one of the first things discussed in the episode in the OP. Trill do miss their old life but the laws of their planet forbid mingling with that old life.
Good thing they aren't on the fucking trill planet, right???
They would still be punished, that's the entire fucking plot of the the episode.
I have to break it to you
Trills are
discounted timelords
Why was Worf written to be thrice cuckolded?
I hate Dax's character and the concept of Trills altogether but her actress was sexo
Amazing how instantaneously much hotter she looks without her goofy hair that she usually has.
Reminer she had sex with picrel (Howard Stern hanger-on Ralph) after he possibly caught herpes from Sandra Bernard
This is documented
hoo hoo
Do you remember what episode this was
If you tell me I will re-download it and make a proper quality webm out of it
I think it was a mirror universe episode
wow how specific. How can I thank you enough?
There’s only like 4 of them you lazy nagger, just check Wikipedia
Hey buddy, you've probably left the thread by now, but it was Through the Looking Glass (S03E19).
Anonymous delivers
But does anonymous tip?
>tipping yourself
Now I didn't go to some big city school of economics or anything, but that seems a tad counterproductive.
Are you sure? It seems to work for the Federal Reserve and banks
My pocket doesn't have a printing press in it, though
So you're just happy to see us, then.
good man
>Hey buddy, you've probably left the thread by now, but it was Through the Looking Glass (S03E19).
make it so!
>If you tell me I will re-download it and make a proper quality webm out of it
was captain planet cartoon the first woke thing?
No shit, Terry Farrell is hot as fuck. Susannah Thompson wasn't bad either.
Coomers giving hot dykes a pass is why this shit is normalized. Give these people an inch because your dick twitches and they'll take miles and we end up with boys in drag in the streets.
>we end up with boys in drag in the streets
And that's a good thing!
Gee thanks for the spoiler, I'm barely on S2
Something to look forward to. The actual kissing is so sensual and porno. My gf needed me to immediately rub her off when we got to that episode.
It's just one episode. Don't worry.
As hot as it was, if it were a permanent thing it would have damaged the show.
t. fragile geezer
I told you to rope yourself, troon.
you are already dead inside
I have to admit, I don't like DS9. I think it's shit and no, I won't watch it because it becomes good when dominion was starts
You're entitled to your opinions, even if they are dogshit.
Actually it's a mid-tier episode and I'm not a big fan of it
no person under 25 would watch ds9 in normal speed paying full attention
You could've written trekoomers.
why geezers are so moralists when we all know how gay orgies happened in all trek cons
Correct
Not really, but this did
Both that and the minidress TOS uniform. She shure had a happy week.
time to rub one for ezri dax again
>Jadzia
Why the distinctively Polish name? Did the authors just pick a random exotic sounding name?
we still are limited by less than 130 phonemas
Nobody except Poles know Polish, and to the common person it doesn't sound Polish at all.
Pollock detected, kurwa mać ja pierdolę
I love this outfit and wish it would have been featured more.
I feel like someone's farming /trek/ for (You)s.
please discuss how dax felt when he took it on the pussy for the first time having been a man for a century
fake trekkies here don't mention that first female dax fucked doctor mccoy
This is the correct answer. McCoy also fucked Space White Mongols. Dude got around.
I had to ask google who McCoy was, get rekt boomers....
>get rekt boomers
Time has already done that to us. Your words are a fart in a hurricane. Better luck next time.
star trek always was and still is _________GAY____
>made
still does, nigga
faeces on a plate with some pitta
You forgot "Nutrek is" and "But why?"
because they show me how the show I invested so much time and passion was a silly and full of false morality, and if I admit that I have to admit I wasted time with crap, so I have to double down so I can feel validated hating new things.
Kama sutra? More like NOM NOM NOMa sutra amirite?¿
Still does, Chuddy. :^)
TOS and TMP enterprise were suppose to be around 300 metered long, and mass 300,000 metric tons. This would make it approximately as long as an large aircraft carrier but three times as massive. I haven't actually worked out the volume of the star ship, but eyeballing it tells me it's a pretty space inefficient design, meaning it has a lot of dimension and surface ares for not much interior volume. The primary hull is on average maybe 3 decks thick. The secondary hull has at most 1/8 the volumn of an aircraft carrier hull. The hull of a large aircraft carrier almost certainly has much more interior volume in total than the TOS enterprise.
An aircraft carrier can't travel at near light speeds
>weight is important on vaccum
oh what a stupid
>what is structural strength
oh what a stupid
is it a tongue kiss?
The fecal matter converter is malfunctioning.
Once again, this is not that shitty general.
Yes it is
Have you noticed that non-general Trek threads are way better and not just 99% reposts of reposts of overused 20 year old memes that nobody replies to?
This thread is dogshit
thats because the /trek/ schizo is here instead of his containment general
Why are you linking to unrelated threads with creepy behavior?
The creepy behavior is related.
The dtc made underage actress fandom thread lore this year. You must’ve heard. And role play chat rooms are the backbone of this “community”
You are ascribing a lot to this "DTC" on a site with hundreds of thousands of anonymous users per day. If you see off topic or rule breaking posts, there's a system to get it to mod attention. Conspiratorial thinking solves nothing
/trek/ has fewer than twenty regulars and at least five are chomos. That’s not an anomaly. You’re a pedomount shill
Not relevant!! This isn't /trek/, this is a thread about a Dax episode.
Amusing since you're the only person ever discussing molesting children in /trek/ and you do it literally all day
I think he must be projecting. Badly. Like in Unification II.
He reminds me of that DrPizza homosexual from Twitter, constantly ranting about how fucked up pedos are when he is himself a literal pedo
You tried
>One post from a year ago that may or may not even be real and if real is clearly a joke
>Meanwhile PAnon's rants are very real and taking place daily including ITT
You tried
The only lesson is that this schizo is too dumb to getting sarcasm. I thought Trek elevated the mind, guess we are wrong.
You are literally certifiably retarded
This is projection
No. You are literally a schizophrenic retarded pedophile. You think you cannot be caught. You already have
Nah those trips already proved you're a tard
You are literally a schizophrenic retard
OK retard
Cadet B is going to testify against you in federal court
OK retard
Your supposed magnum opus is having spent the last year trying to convince one random person that annoyed you that you were a pedophile in an attempt to “troll”. Who do you think is going to buy that? You’re cooked. You’re retarded. You are plummeting to your death masturbating furiously
OK retard
Anon. I’m better than you. What does that make you?
Sane.
Sane people do not spend their lives trying to drive people crazy. The worst thing anyone’s ever been able to call me itt without knowingly or unknowingly lying is a such and such with a heart of gold. You are not sane. You hang around people that talk about raping children. You are objectively the lowest rung of complete outcasts in society. Dangerous and mentally ill. People like my brother also see themselves as innocent. They are schizophrenic like you. You will rationalize anything. No one will ever believe you and that’s good because you are a pathological liar and a criminal
I concede to your trips. You are an insane moron with a heart of gold. And a brain of pudding.
You were acting like pedophiles LOOOOONNNNGGG before I ever called you out. I’d already watched you dox people. I’m not scared of you anymore pedophile. You are a fucking retard and you’re cooked
Did you see his pic? He's even got a p*do stache
And failed
With the funny Chris Farley meme, very nice. Now where's the part where actual harmful content is posted
Speak for yourself. My rituals always get (You)s because they're long term and structured.
Good. Don’t participate. You can’t help yourself sounding like a schizophrenic child molester when you doubt
man
wish I were a boomer and not a homosexual
You have legitimate schizophrenia and we’re better off without your participation. Pls kys thx
My new phone background.
If you have a gf then you can get the fuck out of my thread.
OP here. People with GFs are fine. They're called Niners.
>People with GFs are fine. They're called Niners.
Based
I don't have a GF. I have a loving wife. I get to stay.
Man she really hit the wall towards the end of the show, didn't she?
No, she hit the wall late 2000s. Here she looks good at the nemesis premiere
Her bimbo tits are nice but swarthy mediterranean girl troi from the earlier seasons was something else.
>Nemesis
Where did it go wrong bros? There were some good ideas in there, they just didn't want to do anything interesting with them...
Best Trek film by far, ramming Shinzon is the best ship scene in like all of media
Star Trek is military propaganda.
>It's a Dax episode
>it’s a Ezri episode
I’m boutta cum
>it's a Curzon episode
A suitable accompaniment to a snifter of fine brandy and a cigar as I contemplate the matters of the day
>it's a "humble pillar of the business community makes a tidy profit" episode
By the nagus!
for me its when mirror ezri fucked mirror leeta
Suck my Enterprise-D
It just needs a completely different set of producers, writers, fx crews, directors and actors
>Watched the entire series
Hey anon remember when Dax kissed a woman?
>Read synopsis of episode
>Still remember nothing about it
i like star trek
TMP Spock appreciation post
For me, it’s Kira and Dax
/trek/ is healing
You’re a child molester and you’re gonna get raped to death in a cold concrete cube
OK retard
are you okay, retard?
When did you switch from talking about raping children to trying to pin it on me? It won’t work. You’re doomed. I broke you
the morality of trek is relative
Not the only time the show had that effect on me either
wait wtf, when was Shelly from Twin Peaks on Star Trek?!?!
tbh I haven't watched any of twin peaks
I remember it was some TNG episode that had some important girl being escorted aboard the enterprise and some people who helped her (a girl - anya of the picture - and an old lady) and a violent monster appearing sometimes turned out to be all the same shape-shifting person that accompanied and actually helped grow her and turned into the monster to defend her against an unjustly perceived threat at one point of the episode
also remember having her in the spank bank for quite a while while that episodes' memories lasted
wtf is up with paramount+? There is no app on the PS4 app store still in 2023
/trek/ doesn't watch Paramount+. Did you mean to ask Reddit? They'll know the answer
sony is probably jerking them around for fun. theyll end up giving it away for free with a PS+ sub.
Imagine the schizo court dramas that happen inside this guy's "mind"
Imagine I’ve already put away people like you
You know what my schizophrenic pedo brother did when I finally got him locked up? He tried to convince them I was the crazy one. You know what the nurse had to do when we talked about that? Try not to laugh
Twist: he is the brother posting from solitary.
>I'd like to call Cadet Biollante to the stand
>Anon. I’m better than you. What does that make you?