It's not really hyped up too much anymore. It's not terrible but it's not that great, decidedly mid. Thought it was weird how the good guys execute a kid and that was seen as the right thing to do
>was weird how the good guys execute a kid and that was seen as the right thing to do
If you don't see how they were in the right then your either a woman or a fucking commie. Either way, kys.
>literal kid gives in to soviet pressure and likely torture >it's his fault he wasn't trained to resist "interrogation" >better execute him with no trial
They were all literal kids, and your commie pals killed their parents and were actively hunting them. His dad was working with the fuckers, he probably got a nice meal and shower before they sent him back with promises of even more luxuries for delivering his friends into a death trap. He's lucky all he got was an execution.
Good example of why the film is shit. So much disconnect in premise, plot and execution.
His execution is clearly depicted as a fucked up thing you retards, learn to watch a film
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>america gets invaded >immediately lose everything that made you you and instead adopt the commie policies of the invaders
Yeah my points fine. Try again.
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Your problem is that some of the characters’ actions are morally dubious and not straightforward? I thought the film was le propaganda
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It is. Its propoganda that americans can do w/e they want and it will be justified because they say so.
Prove its not. Show me the ending where the russkies win and the kids lose.
All of the good guys were kids accept for the Col. dude they just watched die.
And the future belongs to whom? The moment the adults are gone they show theyve learnt nothing and regress, abandoning everything that made them different to the invaders. Teach shit lessons, get shit students.
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>Its propoganda that americans can do w/e they want and it will be justified because they say so.
The very scene you were just shitting on is a rejoinder to that but ok.
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Did the kid get due process or did they kangaroo court it?
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You’re implying that the film endorses what happens in that scene? It clearly does not.
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No, im deriding everything surrounding the scene. W/e point beyond ego fluffing it was trying to illicit was lost in translation.
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Most of the film is like that though. Kids discovering war and death, the spiritual descent, heart of darkness.
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True
Maybe it was trying to show that no matter how you slice it, at the end of the day war makes animals of everyone, even children.
Probably but i didnt feel that
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Maybe it was trying to show that no matter how you slice it, at the end of the day war makes animals of everyone, even children.
you're*
They executed a kid. Cope all you want but that's what they did
>literal kid gives in to soviet pressure and likely torture >it's his fault he wasn't trained to resist "interrogation" >better execute him with no trial
let your ass get shot up by some Soviet Spetnaz in the freezing woods because some redd*t soiboi such as yourself is clapping a 8 inch honing beacon in between his booty cheeks and see how you feel.
You'd fix him a latte, give him a blanket and stroke his back telling him it's ok?? >They executed a kid
All wars are fought by kids.
>Wow 1980’s cinema is so shit compared to our modern CGI crapfests
You’re going to get drafted and die defending Israel from Iran you zoomer fuck and I am going to L-A-U-G-H my ass off kid
Not American, but also former military with a medical discharge. Going to stay home and fuck me some lonely zoomerettes who’ve never experienced a Gen X man before.
[...] >correcting grammer and spelling
where the hell do you think you are?
A couple of you ears ago never saw malapropisms like ‘honing’ in place of ‘homing’ here because people were older and had actually read books and shit. Spelling errors are one thing but malapropisms will incur my wrath.
I always thought Colonel Bella’s disillusion with the invasion and communism over the course of the film was the best part, the movie isn’t as one dimensional as critics like to whine about now.
It’s a very sad tale.
>no foreign army
>entirety of americunt history doesnt exist
Lmfao. God that movie was shit and the remake was worse.
It's not really hyped up too much anymore. It's not terrible but it's not that great, decidedly mid. Thought it was weird how the good guys execute a kid and that was seen as the right thing to do
>was weird how the good guys execute a kid and that was seen as the right thing to do
If you don't see how they were in the right then your either a woman or a fucking commie. Either way, kys.
you're*
They executed a kid. Cope all you want but that's what they did
Darryl was a fucking rat and he got off lucky. I would have stuck him and left him to rot out in the sun.
>literal kid gives in to soviet pressure and likely torture
>it's his fault he wasn't trained to resist "interrogation"
>better execute him with no trial
Good example of why the film is shit. So much disconnect in premise, plot and execution.
They were all literal kids, and your commie pals killed their parents and were actively hunting them. His dad was working with the fuckers, he probably got a nice meal and shower before they sent him back with promises of even more luxuries for delivering his friends into a death trap. He's lucky all he got was an execution.
His execution is clearly depicted as a fucked up thing you retards, learn to watch a film
>america gets invaded
>immediately lose everything that made you you and instead adopt the commie policies of the invaders
Yeah my points fine. Try again.
Your problem is that some of the characters’ actions are morally dubious and not straightforward? I thought the film was le propaganda
It is. Its propoganda that americans can do w/e they want and it will be justified because they say so.
Prove its not. Show me the ending where the russkies win and the kids lose.
And the future belongs to whom? The moment the adults are gone they show theyve learnt nothing and regress, abandoning everything that made them different to the invaders. Teach shit lessons, get shit students.
>Its propoganda that americans can do w/e they want and it will be justified because they say so.
The very scene you were just shitting on is a rejoinder to that but ok.
Did the kid get due process or did they kangaroo court it?
You’re implying that the film endorses what happens in that scene? It clearly does not.
No, im deriding everything surrounding the scene. W/e point beyond ego fluffing it was trying to illicit was lost in translation.
Most of the film is like that though. Kids discovering war and death, the spiritual descent, heart of darkness.
True
Probably but i didnt feel that
Maybe it was trying to show that no matter how you slice it, at the end of the day war makes animals of everyone, even children.
let your ass get shot up by some Soviet Spetnaz in the freezing woods because some redd*t soiboi such as yourself is clapping a 8 inch honing beacon in between his booty cheeks and see how you feel.
You'd fix him a latte, give him a blanket and stroke his back telling him it's ok??
>They executed a kid
All wars are fought by kids.
Someones kid =/= kids.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
All of the good guys were kids accept for the Col. dude they just watched die.
>Someones kid =/= kids.
You're misunderstanding, I mean all wars are fought by young boys ie kids.
oh ok
They are? Thank fuck im an old man then
I'm sure they'll need someone to burn shit, don't worry, comrade. You too can do your part!
I love the Hind so fucking much bros.
The hind is such a cool looking helicopter
>honing beacon
It’s ‘homing’ you imbecile.
>correcting grammer and spelling
where the hell do you think you are?
Smells like a sewer but reads like tumblr so i guess reddit?
all you haters can fuck off. WOLVERINES!
Let me guess... You're a communist..
Zazed.
WOLVERINES.
>thinks no one invaded because they are so powerful
>not because they have an ocean east and west, and border a 3rd world country north and south
It encapsulated some people's cold war fears. It's entertaining outside of how the pacing drops 2/3 through.
God I miss pro america propaganda films from the 80s.
It's entirely hyped up by boomers for depicting their America gets invaded/fights a war it doesn't lose fantasy
>In our time
Would be a lot cooler if you didn't have to add that qualifier.
>Wow 1980’s cinema is so shit compared to our modern CGI crapfests
You’re going to get drafted and die defending Israel from Iran you zoomer fuck and I am going to L-A-U-G-H my ass off kid
>he thinks he won't be drafted into the american volkssturm when things go south
Not American, but also former military with a medical discharge. Going to stay home and fuck me some lonely zoomerettes who’ve never experienced a Gen X man before.
A couple of you ears ago never saw malapropisms like ‘honing’ in place of ‘homing’ here because people were older and had actually read books and shit. Spelling errors are one thing but malapropisms will incur my wrath.
The premise of course is bullshit and Patrick Swayze and Charlie Sheen are shit actors but it's peak Milius.
>Avennnnngggeeeee meeeeee
I always thought Colonel Bella’s disillusion with the invasion and communism over the course of the film was the best part, the movie isn’t as one dimensional as critics like to whine about now.
It’s a very sad tale.
>underage girl falls in love with the adult male soldier almost instantly
massive ick from this flick
Do you remember when Russia was considered a near peer to the US?
I remember.