This movie is uniroincally worse than Generations.

This movie is uniroincally worse than Generations. I've never seen anything with this many obvious plot holes before. Almost nothing makes any fricking sense at all in it. Feels like they just wrote a bunch of random epic action movie scenes and stitched them together to make a "movie".

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, it's pretty sweet.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    All the TNG movies are awful.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      frick off dick

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      not true. First two are good. Third is almost okay (feels like a long episode of the show) and only the fourth is really awful and unwatchable.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Generations and Nemesis are unwatchable. Insurrection is bad. First Contact is ok.

        All four TNG movies are worse than the worst two TOS movies, TMP and TFF.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >the worst two TOS movies, TMP and TFF.
          TMP is the best trek movie by miles.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That atrocious movie with the wanna be 2001 space odyssey shots of the ship and weird planets slowly zooming in for literally 4 fricking minutes every scene change?
            Yeah it's horrible. TMP is horrible.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Speaking of, the next film I'm reaching in my own watchthrough is The Final Frontier
          Just how bad is it, exactly?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Not that bad at all actually. Star Trek with Nimoy, Shatner and Bones has a baseline level of soul which makes it tolerable no matter what.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >shitner
              >souv
              Pick one dude.
              Worse than daytime soap operas that get camcelled cuz the lead actor sucks so bad.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Well TMP had all three as well but I found that awful, largely because they didn't use that main trio well at all

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Nemesis is bad
        You're just as much of a homosexual as OP.
        What's bad about it? I literally can't think of anything other than the shiner moment at the very end with (clone) Data that people might not have wanted.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >What's bad about it?
          it's literally unwatchable

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Interesting set up main plot scene
            >Comfy as frick opening main cast scene
            >most interesting plot device (data origins) plot mover
            >kino picard clone reveal as thematically same as data.
            >kino scenes of confronting your worst possible self with the picards
            >data finally understanding humanity as he self sacrifices to save his friends.
            It's fricking kino and you'll never convince me otherwise.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          nemesis is dogshit

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's comfy and great

            >Interesting set up main plot scene
            >Comfy as frick opening main cast scene
            >most interesting plot device (data origins) plot mover
            >kino picard clone reveal as thematically same as data.
            >kino scenes of confronting your worst possible self with the picards
            >data finally understanding humanity as he self sacrifices to save his friends.
            It's fricking kino and you'll never convince me otherwise.

            You're a homosexual plebe

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              the score is the only good part

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >he likes Black person shit music with soulless electronic drums and generic bullshit.
                God damn I feel sorry for zoomers.
                Frick off dude, seriously. The the art world is gonna end because you have no music that isn't AI produced.
                GOD HELP YOU(and I'm a frickin atheist)
                Hope you can learn to appreciate actual music later in life.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine being unable to appreciate Jerry fricking Goldsmith

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Holy frick you're moronic.
                Do sum fricking research. Dude you are actually making me go drink another beer you're so fricking moronic and I want to forget your post.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Remember my post drukhomosexual

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >he thinks Jerry goldsmith was even alive when the movie came out or was being made.
                Kek

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Remember my post drukhomosexual

                Kek

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >>he thinks Jerry goldsmith was even alive when the movie came out or was being made.
                >Kek
                Jerry Goldsmith was born in 1929 and died in 2004.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    name a single plot hole

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If the borg can time travel why didn't they just enslave the human race in the middle ages or something. If the goal was to stop first contact theres thousands of easier ways they could have done it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Time travel doesn't have unlimited "range" through history. A couple hundred years is the furthest they could go

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Time travel doesn't have unlimited "range" through history. A couple hundred years is the furthest they could go
          Nice headcanon homosexual.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Why not go back a few months prior and use their advanced technology to take over then?

          Their more tech advanced than the vulkans or humans of that time

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Time travel doesn't have unlimited "range" through history. A couple hundred years is the furthest they could go

        >Time travel doesn't have unlimited "range" through history. A couple hundred years is the furthest they could go
        Nice headcanon homosexual.

        Why not go back a few months prior and use their advanced technology to take over then?

        Their more tech advanced than the vulkans or humans of that time

        this got reteconned by events in Stark Trek Enterpise
        the borg basically skynetted themselves and had to leave behind the future borg to make contact with their past / present selves by the time they first contact the federation in tng

        i remember some asshat writer jerking themselves off saying something like "see? it gives the title First Contact even deeper meanings when you rewatch it"

        i cant remember who though and i wish i did so i can hate them properly but ah well

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          *star not freaking stark

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Did they tag team e-girl-keiko?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            theoretically... anything is possible in alternate realities.
            even the most extreme seemingly improbable almost impossible events and outcomes become a certainty to have happened if you were able to view enough alternate realities

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >why do the borg all of a sudden have time travel technology that they only decide to use as a last resort when they're about to be defeated
      >why does nobody care about fricking up the timeline by sending the entire crew of the enterprise down to earth and openly telling everyone about the future
      >why did they show worf's space suit depressurizing and then never mention it again
      >why do the borg act like incompetent morons throughout the movie
      >why does the borg queen have the emotion of a human woman on her period
      >how did all the escape pods get back to the ship
      >how does the moon prevent the vulcans from detecting the enterprise
      >why does the enterprise suddenly have time travel technology to go back to their own time at the end of the movie

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >>why do the borg all of a sudden have time travel technology that they only decide to use as a last resort when they're about to be defeated
        maybe they didn't have time travel technology until they spent lots of time to develop it because they were about to be defeated (a la Skynet).
        >>why does nobody care about fricking up the timeline by sending the entire crew of the enterprise down to earth and openly telling everyone about the future
        They do care, they only told Cochrane about the future because he wasn't going to help otherwise.
        >>why did they show worf's space suit depressurizing and then never mention it again
        He literally fixed his suit by tying a borg wire around it. Watch the movie.
        >>why do the borg act like incompetent morons throughout the movie
        Examples please
        >>why does the borg queen have the emotion of a human woman on her period
        The idea of the borg queen admittedly was a little silly, the borg are supposed to be collective. But this is not a "plot hole"
        >>how did all the escape pods get back to the ship
        They didn't need to? The enterprise could just beam everyone back up.
        >>how does the moon prevent the vulcans from detecting the enterprise
        Typical scifi mumbo jumbo, but who says the moon's magnetic field (or whatever) couldn't disrupt sensors? Not a "plot hole"
        >>why does the enterprise suddenly have time travel technology to go back to their own time at the end of the movie
        They developed it based on sensor readings from the Borg time-traveling ship

        I think you're confusing "plot holes" with general Star Trek "the technology works this way because it has to for the plot to work". This is not unique to First Contact at all. Remember how in the TOS movies, you could apparently just fly around the sun to go back in time? And that was never mentioned again

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's easily the best start trek movie.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >time traveling
    This trope is never gonna work.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Except time travel worked great in IV, one of the best movies ever made.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The main musical theme is top 5 greatest movie musical pieces of all time. Absolutely gorgeous.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally just the TNG theme song.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You're so moronic it hurts others that know you.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I've never seen anything with this many obvious plot holes before

    Let's see you list 5.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      1. Zefram Cochrane is from Alpha Centauri.
      2. Zefram Cochrane is from Alpha Centauri.
      3. Zefram Cochrane is from Alpha Centauri.
      4. Zefram Cochrane is from Alpha Centauri.
      5. Zefram Cochrane is from Alpha Centauri.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >The inventor of the Human Warp Drive was from world you couldn't reach without warp speed!

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Alpha Centauri is 4-6 light years away
          >Earth develops the impulse drive, which can achieve half the speed of light
          >Gets to Alpha Centauri in 8-12 years

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    One of my favourite Star Trek films. Haters can suck it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      kino.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Mike Stoklasa does all my thinking for me

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The biggest sin of this movie is that it cemented the idea of action hero picard. Otherwise it's ok for what it is. But it really should have been the only tng "action" movie.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've come to grow quite fond of Generations, but First Contact is better.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Generations biggest issue is the last act. Which iirc wasn't written by the original script writer who got too busy working on TNG's final season to properly finish it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        did he ever go back and write a revised script then?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's definitely rushed and gives Kirk a pretty anticlimatic farewell.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I liked the prisoner exchange with geordie and they capture their shield harmonics.
        I liked picard on the planet annoying the antagonist.
        i liked the antagonists motive, wanting a better life for himself.
        I liked him getting help from Kirk.

        I didn't like Kirk wanting to stay in the ribbon.
        I didn't like how one man's ribbon wish could take away a different man's ribbon wish.
        Or was he still in his ribbon while picard's wish was a different universe?

        That's about all that was wrong with the final act.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The TNG movie ranking is:

    First Contact
    Generations
    Insurrection
    Nemesis

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, you can frick off. It's easily one of the best ST movies.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Amazingly, it still holds up today.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's the USS Defiant.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Giga based. The first contact borg battle was so kino and my favorite Trek space battle at the time.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It sucked to be that Starfleet ship that got caught in the cube's explosion, though. Bummer.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Its Die Hard on a spaceship, I love it

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    STV Future's End is quite good

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it was the coolest when i saw it in theaters when i was 11
    years of trek nerds getting to be kick ass for a movie and seeing the borg technologically advance with the nano drones was amazing
    cochran being a jerk was great
    geordis eyes
    drunk troi
    picard calling worf a coward
    blow up the damn ship!
    >nooooooooooo

    you're looking at this now and not 30 years after with 30 years of garbage lore and story after it

    at the moment it was incredible

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    1) The Motion Picture
    2) The Voyage Home
    3) The Wrath of Khan
    4) The Undiscovered Country
    5) The Search for Spock
    POWER GAP
    6) First Contact
    7) The Final Frontier
    8) Insurrection
    9) Nemesis
    10) Genesis
    POWER GAP
    99997) Star Trek: Beyond
    99998) Star Trek '09
    99999) Star Trek: Into Darkness

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >10) Genesis
      You mean Generations?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        yes sorry

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    1) II - The Wrath of Khan
    2) VI - The Undiscovered Country
    3) IV - The Voyage Home
    4) III - The Search for Spock

    POWER GAP
    5) First Contact
    6) Generations
    7) The Motion Picture
    8) The Final Frontier

    POWER GAP
    9) Nemesis
    10) Star Trek: Beyond

    POWER GAP
    99997) Insurrection
    99998) Star Trek '09
    99999) Star Trek: Into Darkness

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why do you like Star Trek: Beyond more than the other Abrams Trek trash?q

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but it feels like more of a sci-fi tale and less of a shitty action mention with lasers, in comparison to the first two. Also hot alien babe

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why not just beam/transport a couple individual drones to some backwater village, assimilate everyone there, repeat

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