>this obliterates the cappies

>this obliterates the cappies

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >capitalism is when you eat a lot of food since you might have no food soon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yuromovie? Into the trash it goes

      Economics is... ... Le complex

      I don't thing everyone being a commie will work out ether since it only need one or two guys who wants more or just wanna frick up and whole system will go down they drain

      Not to mention not having enough food for the lower levels even if people on upper level fast

      >capitalists have found a way to milk money by selling the idea of communism
      >commies think this is a own while giving giving cappies their money
      The absolute state

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yuromovie? Into the trash it goes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They made one of the best horror movies of all time

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        A yuromovie a good movie? lmao
        What movie is that? Some Francois filme?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          it was good enough for the americans to copy it. they tried to I mean.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Economics is... ... Le complex

    I don't thing everyone being a commie will work out ether since it only need one or two guys who wants more or just wanna frick up and whole system will go down they drain

    Not to mention not having enough food for the lower levels even if people on upper level fast

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Not to mention not having enough food for the lower levels even if people on upper level fast
      this was the dumbest part of the movie, like ok if this is some social experiment where people will live if they share, it makes some twisted sense. But because of the lack of food, their choices don't matter at all

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >their choices don't matter at all
        but anon, they do matter. as floor placement was always a consequence of how the characters acted on the previous floor.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Keep placing the asian woman who's there to save her daughter at the top
        >This is obviously a hint to the solution.
        It's implied she was asking people to help her at the start given how she's known throughout the Pit. She obviously went nuts after perpetual failure to get people to help her.

        The film is trying to say that the only action was to help her search for her child.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          she keeps killing her cellmate. so she gets placed near the top. sometimes she isn't able to kill her cellmate, so they don't see her go down.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's not a reward for her killing her cellmates.
            She is the bait of the experiment. She tells everybody her child is here, in the pit, of which everyone is aware of the stakes.

            The government wants the people to save the child and deliver her by taking into consideration the situation.

            That child is at the lowest level, perpetually, to hide her and keep the mother from getting to her.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              oh, headcanon. sorry, carry on.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Rewatch the movie.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              who feeds the child? how do they make sure she's still there?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                the mother does when she makes it to her. they're separated again at the end of each month.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't get the experiment theory. I think it's more likely the child was born there and is unregistered with the administration. what would be the point of the experiment? who would be in the know?
                she's just of victim of circumstance, like the mother. they might be doing a social experiment, but it's not about them.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                its best not to ask questions of half-baked headcanon.

                also not sure why you replied to me asking questions about said half-baked headcanon.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I thought you were this guy

                It's not a reward for her killing her cellmates.
                She is the bait of the experiment. She tells everybody her child is here, in the pit, of which everyone is aware of the stakes.

                The government wants the people to save the child and deliver her by taking into consideration the situation.

                That child is at the lowest level, perpetually, to hide her and keep the mother from getting to her.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                like i said, headcanon. the clearest purpose of the prison is simply population reduction and she happens to be stuck there with her kid.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Not to mention not having enough food for the lower levels even if people on upper level fast
      this was the dumbest part of the movie, like ok if this is some social experiment where people will live if they share, it makes some twisted sense. But because of the lack of food, their choices don't matter at all

      Also stockpiling stuff that perishes slowly so you can consume it more efficiently over days means you get magically killed, even though that's the only way any kind society can feed itself reliably
      The message falls a little flat when you have to throw in a bunch of arbitrary rules to make sure people don't do the obvious shit that breaks your little parable

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The most obvious thing that would happen sooner or later is two or three upper levels banding together and riding that thing downwards enforcing some sort of system in the hopes it will benefit themselves in the long run.
        It's all so badly constructed just to hammer the point home that PEOPLE SHOULD SHARE DURHURR!!!
        what a concept.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >two or three upper levels banding together and riding that thing downwards enforcing some sort of system in the hopes it will benefit themselves in the long run.
          why would they do that?

          even if they did that, the main character and the troony getting thrown down into triple digits after trying to get people to ration the food indicates if you try to organize for the benefit of everyone, you'll be thrown down into the pit.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            How would 2 people on a level overpower 6 people riding downwards collecting weapons on their way?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly don't think the amount of food would be enough for everyone since this thing goes down like 200 levels. It's not enough food on this thing to feed 400 people.
      Then there is the fact that it's completely random where you end up. Capitalism doesn't work that way. Once you are rich, you usually stay rich, same with being poor. Who even claims this is some sort of allegory for capitalism?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Who even claims this is some sort of allegory for capitalism
        the director

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Is he an idiot?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Must be because the film doesn't seem to be making a statement about capitalism.

            The plot twist is that there are way too many floors of the pit to allow a form of rationing, especially if the implication is that nearly all the floors were occupied at the start of the experiment.

            We aren't given enough info to come to the assumption that if the people at the top of the pit starved themselves the people at the bottom would eat either, in case the Director was trying to argue that the solution was for the "privileged" 1st floorers to forsake their meals.

            The solution being the child suggests a completely different message. It implies that the lives of the people in the pit are less valuable than the child which is an attempt to convey that Children are the future.

            This doesn't seem like an anti-capitalist message.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Or maybe the writers are just bad.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              for me, the scene where the child is staring at the cake with hunger eyes, and they immediately abandon the idea they fought so hard for is like the Children of Men ending. if there's a child in the mix, it won't matter how dystopic the situation has become, they'll stop fighting because there's hope for the future.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            he's probably being misquoted. imagine the scenario: the director wants to safeguard his work's integrity and let the viewer have his own take. stupid journalist asks "this is about capitalism, isn't it?", director replies "I guess you can see it like that, honestly your take depends on you". stupid journalist misquotes him and says the director says it's about capitalism.
            it's always the case.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The movie criticises capitalist and communist economic systems. The inherent structure causes suffering, the attempt at revolution causes suffering.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Not to mention not having enough food for the lower levels even if people on upper level fast
      this was the dumbest part of the movie, like ok if this is some social experiment where people will live if they share, it makes some twisted sense. But because of the lack of food, their choices don't matter at all

      it’s explained in the movie that there’s enough for all

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s explained in the movie that there’s enough for all
        no, it's speculated and then they go down and see that there are several hundred more levels than previously thought. Even if each level only eats one raisin a day, the food still wasn't enough

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't thing everyone being a commie will work out ether since it only need one or two guys who wants more or just wanna frick up and whole system will go down they drain
      This logic is moronic. Any system can fail. You might as well be arguing that laws are useless since bad people can break them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you had an objective ruling class in the form of robots, you'd have a chance for communism to work. Even with replicators, the one who controls the starting elements would hold the power and thus control. But robots and/or AI would mean no one person who is infallible would make the whole system get corrupted.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >shit gets you just handed from above in capitalism

    Then why am I working so hard? What kind of shit system am I living in where I have to take action to eat?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >what is inheritance

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing that concerns me really but I'm fine with other people wanting a better life for their kids and I think telling them they can't do that is evil.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          ... wow how... childish and naive.

          everyone who is rich today was born rich. even if they just went into spending-only mode, their children would be rich, and their children's children, and their children's children's children, etc, ad infinitum.

          the "floors" are rungs of society, the time the platform stays on one represents a lifetime, the food is wealth.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >everyone who is rich today was born rich

            Hahaha no

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              cope

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Let's invest in internet coin!
              >The average man invests $100, at the end of a very good month he triples it and has 300$
              >The rich man invests $25,000, at the end of a very good month he triples it and has $75,000

              And even on a 2% profit the rich man now has $25,250 and made more than the average man in a particularly good situation. And neither of them made anything useful or visible to earn that money. That money came out of nothing and will be spent in something.

              This is a bad thing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                lmao wait until you find out about FIAT currencies, you fricking dork.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >heh... fiat currency!
                I'm pretty sure he knows considering how much more knowledgeable he is in economics than you, you braindead hick

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >That money came out of nothing and will be spent in something.
                This sort of moronation is why we need IQ tests for voting privileges.

                If your $100 of bitcoins increase in value by $200, it's only because someone is willing to exchange $300 of real money for them. Ergo the value did not 'come from nothing' but rather is always someone's earned value that they are trading for a bitcoins, in the hope that other people will be willing to trade them for even more earned value in the future. If the money came from nothing, then nobody would want it and it would have no value, like the ruble, for instance.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Well first off that's wrong and secondly it's not really a problem of any sorts aside from people like you thinking it's "unfair".

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >everyone who is rich today was born rich

              Hahaha no

              lmao, they think they'll be billionaires one day

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >billionaire
                Seriously lost me there, what does this have to do with anything?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >what does having more money than can be spent, have to do with a situation surrounding the top floors being provided with more food than they could ever eat

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >You must be either be dirt poor or a billionaire. There's nothing in between!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >What kind of shit system am I living in where I have to take action to eat?

      Humanity had always been doing that. Do you just expect things to be handed to you for free?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well this movie says that's how it works under capitalism.
        Shit exists and we just need to share.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        hunter gatherers literally lived in a world where they could just walk walk around and there was free food on all the bushes and trees, yea. all fertile land has been privatized now. try walking through a farm today and plucking food, see how long it takes you to get arrested or shot.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So it's an allegory for trickle down ecconomy? Okay

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's about Jesus's harrowing of hell and nobody can convince me otherwise.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There is so much CATHOLICISM bouncing around inside Spanish director's heads it's hard to tell if we are supposed to read the Jesus symbolism as like the main message of the film or just kind of the default set dressing for all allegorical films period.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >obviously

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No cap on a stack fr fr

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to know where they get all these people from
    333 floors, 666 people but every month everyone below 100 odd is dead unless they kill and eat their cellmate, so that's an absolute minimum of 233 deaths per month, not counting suicides and crazy hot ninja ladies riding down and killing everyone along the way
    You could pretty conservatively say a full half of everyone in there dies in the first week of each month, but there's a lengthy application process involving naming your favourite food and an object you want to bring in with you (meaning they're not funneling people from the prison system), so how do they keep it stocked up?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A giant concrete platform elevator is magically floating. This is a Cube type film, it's not supposed to make sense.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >233 deaths per month
      bruh that's basically nothing. 90% of the prison population would jump at a "do a stint in this other prison, get out in a year" type offer

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >This obliterates the commies
    Was better written too

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You should read his other book.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the one on israelites? is it worth it?

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what are the political implications for her existence in that awful place?

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Netflix

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't just about capitalism. One of the minor reasons I hate this board:No one understands the movies they watch even if it's a Netflix or Marvel flick

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >it wasn't just about capitalism!
    >refuses to elaborate
    >leaves the thread

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >IT'S LE CAPITALISM BECAHSE IT HAS LAYERS!!!
      If it was capitalism, there would be theoretical level mobility in between the months including rising

      Now post your IQ

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >le upwards mobility
        who falls for that shit

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I do, I used to work rather shitty jobs now I work a well paying one.

          I don't really see the problem, unless you are a drug addict or extremely stupid you can make a living and own shit.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >purposely misreading my post
          This is why you can't understand a basic Neflix movie. Capitalism has THEORETICAL upward mobility. The platform doesn't. This alone doesn't make it Capitalism.
          See this post:

          he's probably being misquoted. imagine the scenario: the director wants to safeguard his work's integrity and let the viewer have his own take. stupid journalist asks "this is about capitalism, isn't it?", director replies "I guess you can see it like that, honestly your take depends on you". stupid journalist misquotes him and says the director says it's about capitalism.
          it's always the case.

          >director replies "I guess you can see it like that, honestly your take depends on you"
          Part of the appeal its purposely ambiguous for morons like (you) to insert whatever political statement you want onto the movie as the lesson.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >another movie against capitalism that actually shows communism
    many such cases

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >let's send them back an untouched cake, that will show daddy he's not the boss of me
    spaniards are so infantile

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why did the Asian woman kill the dog? That's the only part that makes no sense to me

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      she was hungry, and thought the other woman was silly for bringing a dog to that place. from her perspective it's better to kill the dog than the owner.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Spain such a totalitarian globohomosexual hellhole?
    t. Spaniard

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      cuz Franco regime left them in a midcentury underdeveloped economy, so now they’re overcompensating for 50+ years of crippling undergrowth.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Spain's economy relative to other european countries peaked in the 70's. We've been hovering since then. Saying democracy brought us global technological advancements is a falacy like saying Franco brought us televisions and nuclear energy.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    L BRACKET BROS, WHERE WE AT???

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >these are the posts that made me seethe and I could only cope by replying with buzzwords
    based brainlet

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >filtered
      >brainrot
      >buzzwords
      you need to go back (to reddit)

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >watch trailer on YouTube
    >all the comments are about how deep and profound this movie

    God I fricking hate normies.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    1/3rd of the homeless population in the US is obese.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Being poor in a country where soda is cheaper than water and where burgers are cheaper than bread makes you obese more quickly anon. For rich people, being fat is a choice. For poor people it's a sentence.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I've heard this reasoning a lot of times and it makes somewhat sense but it never really tracks for people who cook for themselves.
        I think it's an oversimplification. I'm not even saying Americans are all exclusively morally dissolute gluttons, I think both stances are too convenient.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The homeless tend not to have access to cookware, and non-homeless poor people still just have easier access to extremely sugary and fatty foods. Cooking for yourself doesn't necessarily mean cooking healthily, since fresh vegetables are fricking expensive. It doesn't help that poor people are often also very dumb, but looking purely at convenience and cost there's really no denying that the US' dietary options pushes you towards obesity. But European countries are catching up!

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Rather than the obese homeless angle, I'm not convinced by the "For rich people being fat is a choice, for poor people it's a sentence" angle.
            Thermodynamically it's untrue, but that's not a point in favor of each stance, like many people think.
            It makes sense to me given the kinds of foods that would be accessible to a bum, that they would easily be eating more calories than they would expend. For the rest, I think it has more to do with "culture" and knowledge rather than price and availability.
            I also don't like that position, because it is used to imply that an increase in economic standing would beget a change to healthier eating habits.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Thermodynamically it's untrue, but that's not a point in favor of each stance, like many people think.

              Obviously consuming more calories than you expend will cause you to gain weight.

              However, fast/cheap food often has low nutritional value, so it's a lot easier to consume foods that just fill your stomach with calories but nothing useful.

              >What actually happens is that poor people are stupid and have low impulse control

              This also happens, but is an oversimplification. Obviously it's a combination of both. In general, people will just choose the path of least resistance, which means some combination of convenience and cost, which naturally pushes people towards fast food.

              It's like, being hungry sucks. You can get a McMenu for like $10 and fill your stomach real good and be not hungry for a few hours. Or you can spend that same $10 on some healthy food from the supermarket, which you still need to spend time preparing, and which probably leaves you feeling less satiated because you're already so used to these high-fat, high-sugar meals to begin with.

              That said, it's obvious that this is by design because it certainly isn't economically beneficial to urge half your population into diabetes (and the healthcare system, which everyone pays for).

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah, I agree with this post. Don't have much else to add.
                Like you said it's more the low opportunity cost of unhealthy food rather than its actual cost (which is relatively low) the big factor.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >It's like, being hungry sucks. You can get a McMenu for like $10 and fill your stomach real good and be not hungry for a few hours. Or you can spend that same $10 on some healthy food from the supermarket, which you still need to spend time preparing, and which probably leaves you feeling less satiated because you're already so used to these high-fat, high-sugar meals to begin with.

                This excuse would only make sense if junk food and fast food wasn't available to rich people and being rich meant that you had no choice but to eat healthy food and always had time to prepare a healthy meal. However, fewer rich people are obese even though they can theoretically afford to eat much more junk and fast food than the poors and often work long hours, and the reason for this is because poor fat people are dumb, lazy and irresponsible e.g.

                >You can get a McMenu for like $10 and fill your stomach real good and be not hungry for a few hours. Or you can spend that same $10 on some healthy food from the supermarket
                Dumb
                >which you still need to spend time preparing
                Lazy
                >you're already so used to these high-fat, high-sugar meals to begin with.
                Irresponsible.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think he disagrees with you, he just isn't completely on the nature side of the nature vs nurture argument.
                Dumb, lazy and irresponsible people became fat relatively recently, when the conditions allowed them to easily go for a calorie surplus. I don't think there were many fatties among the dirt poor in the 20th century.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not really. Fat homeless people is almost uniquely an American thing. It's because Americans in general are nutritionally illiterate and think that a bag of doritos is real food. The price of buying a bag of spinach and a carton of milk isn't radically different from buying a box of oreo cookies and a 16 oz bottle of soda, and the former will sustain them longer since it's not just carbs and sugar.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >his source is a YouTube video

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If you're too poor to drink water from the tap or buy bread, then wouldn't it follow that you wouldn't be able to buy enough burgers to get fat?
        I mean, for instance, a McDouble is $2 for 400cals right? So you have to spend like $10 just to hit the standard recommended caloric intake, and be eating 7 and half burgers every day to hit the 3000 odd cals per that you need for the average person to get properly fat. Nobody who is buying burgers purely because they're affordable is going to be downing 8 a day.
        What actually happens is that poor people are stupid and have low impulse control and habitually do completely excessive stuff like eating $10 of fried chicken + a pack of Doritos in one sitting, then chugging gallons of HFCS fluids and malt liquor to wash it down, making them both very fat and very poor.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >netflix logo

    so nice that shit movies get tagged so clearly

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I at Popeyes while watching this. Then I finished eating and stopped watching

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    not really any kind of economical system when none of them work, no?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No!! It represents X system I hate because I love seeing my viewpoint being validated!

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I mean they just kinda lie down and do nothing and food just come down from the sky

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