This show is absolute garbage, why the frick is it so highly rated. I hate the flashback plot device.

This show is absolute garbage, why the frick is it so highly rated. I hate the flashback plot device. It's lazy and stops you caring about the characters in the past once you know what happens to them in the future. It also requires a huge amount of suspension of disbelief, especially in the contemporary timeline.
Did anyone here find this enjoyable?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It started off with promise, but since the end of this last season, it's apparent it's going nowhere. Literally nothing has happened since the beginning of the show. People talk shit on lost, this show has no fricking clue where it's headed, there is zero story at all.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >since the end of last season
      Wow. You really watched this shit till the end? I dropped it after two episodes of s2. The end of s1 was already unbearable. Typical goyslop, all filler and fake drama. TV is so fricking dead

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I watched the first episode and dropped it, shit was boring AND insufferable.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Showtime shows have always been garbage, at most they were watchable. They were always the shows too shitty to make it on HBO. Now that HBO is garbage it doesn't mean Showtime has improved.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    cute girls = still watching

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Did anyone here find this enjoyable?

    Yes I love it.

    >It's lazy and stops you caring about the characters in the past once you know what happens to them in the future

    This doesn't make any sense to me. We don't know all about what happens to them in the future. The present-day plot line is ongoing. It shows us that even after the end of their time in the wilderness, there are still mysteries surrounding that time, even to the girls. We also still do not know how everything unfolds for them in the past. They have over a year left as of the end of season 2.

    >It also requires a huge amount of suspension of disbelief

    I don't think the suspension of disbelief it demands is that huge. Some, yes, but it's grounded in reality enough that it's not tremendous.

    Are you mad that Tai and Van are lesbians, or something?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      So, for me, one thing that I don't know how they'll deal with is Natalie dying at the end of S2. She's supposed to be the leader in the flashbacks, I think it changes how much you root for the character. I've got a feeling they're going to introduce more characters, and it's going to end up like Lost, though with so much on these days, one bad season can be enough for a cancellation. Leaking out the original story through flashbacks is a tired gimmick, especially when the current day plot is so lame.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        With Nat, idk if you know this, but she was killed off because Juliette Lewis asked to be written off the show. She has struggled with substance abuse and I suspect an eating disorder, and playing adult Natalie as an addict was taking a toll on her. So presumably, they may not be able to feature Nat in any flashbacks which feature them as adults. So yes, that could pose a challenge. I'd say her death was already foreshadowed, though, when she drew the queen. And I don't see any reason her death as an adult should effect the stakes of their time in the wilderness.

        >Leaking out the original story through flashbacks is a tired gimmick
        I understand your view; I simply don't share the sentiment. They still have a ton of loose ends to tie up in both the past and present.

        I meant them dying in the present/future .

        >I meant them dying in the present/future .

        I don't understand what you mean.

        >I don't think the suspension of disbelief it demands is that huge. Some, yes, but it's grounded in reality enough that it's not tremendous.
        Getting away with multiple murders, outsmarting cops, and putting enough phenobarbital in one sip of hot chocolate to kill a fully grown man. Alsk how the frick can Tai just disappear after being elected for office?
        I also think the young/old Natalie casting doesn't match up at all, the rest are fine.

        >Getting away with multiple murders, outsmarting cops, and putting enough phenobarbital in one sip of hot chocolate to kill a fully grown man.

        They didn't outsmart the cops. They were intensely onto them. They only got away with it through more murder, coercion, and falsifying evidence. They're not off the hook. They're on borrowed time.

        Poisoning a man in that way is easy for me to overlook in a fantasy drama like that, but that is just me.

        >Alsk how the frick can Tai just disappear after being elected for office?

        That bothered me, too. They need to make up for that in S3 by showing her life as a politician and public figure.

        >I also think the young/old Natalie casting doesn't match up at all, the rest are fine.

        This stood out to me, too, but I can buy it because of how haggard they made her look as an adult because of addition. But I would say the casting is more than just fine; it's really remarkable how good it is.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm guessing adult Marie will come into it next season, either that or she dies.

          >, they may not be able to feature Nat in any flashbacks which feature them as adults. So yes, that could pose a challenge. I'd say her death was already foreshadowed, though, when she drew the queen
          To be honest, having Travis only in flashbacks seems to work ok. I'd guess originally maybe Van was supposed to die as there's the terminal cancer plot, and she hasn't really been a big part of the main cast.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            The fact that Van has only recently been introduced and that her death has been broadcast makes me think she's going to have a role in something that will be highly impactful. I am really curious about what is going to happen with Lottie and her community. They aren't going to just lock Lottie away with nothing to do, and I doubt her cult is just going to disband. I think one or more of the girls will take over it as the leader.

            I really want to know more about dark Tai and whatever connection she has to whatever supernatural elements are in the wilderness. I also think that whatever happens in the immediate aftermath of their rescue will be elucidating in some way.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I meant them dying in the present/future .

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't think the suspension of disbelief it demands is that huge. Some, yes, but it's grounded in reality enough that it's not tremendous.
      Getting away with multiple murders, outsmarting cops, and putting enough phenobarbital in one sip of hot chocolate to kill a fully grown man. Alsk how the frick can Tai just disappear after being elected for office?
      I also think the young/old Natalie casting doesn't match up at all, the rest are fine.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        With Nat, idk if you know this, but she was killed off because Juliette Lewis asked to be written off the show. She has struggled with substance abuse and I suspect an eating disorder, and playing adult Natalie as an addict was taking a toll on her. So presumably, they may not be able to feature Nat in any flashbacks which feature them as adults. So yes, that could pose a challenge. I'd say her death was already foreshadowed, though, when she drew the queen. And I don't see any reason her death as an adult should effect the stakes of their time in the wilderness.

        >Leaking out the original story through flashbacks is a tired gimmick
        I understand your view; I simply don't share the sentiment. They still have a ton of loose ends to tie up in both the past and present.

        [...]
        >I meant them dying in the present/future .

        I don't understand what you mean.

        [...]
        >Getting away with multiple murders, outsmarting cops, and putting enough phenobarbital in one sip of hot chocolate to kill a fully grown man.

        They didn't outsmart the cops. They were intensely onto them. They only got away with it through more murder, coercion, and falsifying evidence. They're not off the hook. They're on borrowed time.

        Poisoning a man in that way is easy for me to overlook in a fantasy drama like that, but that is just me.

        >Alsk how the frick can Tai just disappear after being elected for office?

        That bothered me, too. They need to make up for that in S3 by showing her life as a politician and public figure.

        >I also think the young/old Natalie casting doesn't match up at all, the rest are fine.

        This stood out to me, too, but I can buy it because of how haggard they made her look as an adult because of addition. But I would say the casting is more than just fine; it's really remarkable how good it is.

        Regarding how on point the casting was, here's an image featuring the adult cast and when they were young, alongside the young versions of the characters.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoyed it. Only thing I'd complain about so far is some of the shitty CGI with the bear and the wolves but the characters and the survival stuff is fun

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      i stan misty

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me its Callie

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Exquisite taste. She's not conventionally pretty, but there's something about those eyes and that slightly toothy smile.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    can season 3 be redeemed with innawoods Ted K gay coach?

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    there are anons in this thread protecting their spoilers like anyone cares about this shit streaming service’s filler of a show

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This board has spoiler tags for exactly that reason. We're just having fun anon deal with it.

      They should have never did what they did with the ugly junky. Also I want to frick the young junky actress

      You and everybody else. Young Misty > all tho

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        From the main six characters:
        1. Young Natalie
        2. Young Lottie
        3. Old Misty
        4. Young Shauna
        5. Young Misty
        6. Old Lottie
        7. Old Tai
        8. Young Tai
        9. Old Van
        10. Young Van
        11. Old Shauna
        9001. Old Natalie

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >omitting Jackie

          For me, it's
          Young Misty
          Young Nat
          Old Misty
          Jackie (RIP)
          Old Shauna
          Young Shauna
          Old Lottie
          Old Tai
          Old Van
          Young Van
          Old Nati
          Young Lottie
          Young Tai

          My main complaint about the show is that I hate how they punctuate every important scene with some famous song

          This is a trend that's getting more and more popular in both tv series and movies, and yes, it is annoying.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's just common courtesy, mate. If someone's not finished watching and happens to come upon a spoiler, it can ruin the show a bit. Not that there's too much to spoil here though.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They should have never did what they did with the ugly junky. Also I want to frick the young junky actress

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    My main complaint about the show is that I hate how they punctuate every important scene with some famous song

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Another pet peeve is when they do flashbacks that are so obvious like when old Shauna finds the confetti in the closet and it flashes back when Adam was hiding there and shows the guy stealing the money who tripped in the confetti. Just taking the audience as braindead idiots.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    DUDE!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      SWEET! WHAT DOES MINE SAY?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        WEED!

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >kills you 25 years later
    >refuses to elaborate

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      she owes them nothing. psycho b***h solidarity.

      they literally could have been rescued in 3 days. all they had to do was not bully misty

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