>Shiv convinces President Mencken to let the deal go through >Mattson buys Waystar-Royco and makes Tom or Greg CEO >Shiv gets fricked over and left with nothing, also Tom divorces her and Ken/Roman hate her >Ken gets his billions of dollars and leaves the business world to try and rebuild a life with his children >Connor uses his billions to fund his future Presidential campaigns >Roman checks himself into a psych ward and makes a full recovery then rekindles with Gerri
I called it on the first episode. The series is programmed for rewatching to be fulfilling because of how obvious Greg's rise to the top is in a second viewing. The show starts Logan, Kendall, then let's spend some fricking time with Greg in a mascot costume. It's going to be Greg after a series of fake outs.
what exactly is the poetic denouement of greg becoming CEO? this isn't game of thrones, shit doens't just happen for the lulz or for shock value. I'm glad they baited you all in the last couple episodes with the whole Matsson liking Greg thing.
After Roman got blown the frick out last episodes the assorted neo nazis and misogynists that for some reason have attached themselves to this show literally only have some rugpull twist left to get their daddy Matsson based Cinemaphile swede into power at the end.
>Shiv convinces President Mencken to let the deal go through >Mattson buys Waystar-Royco and makes Tom or Greg CEO >Shiv gets fricked over and left with nothing, also Tom divorces her and Ken/Roman hate her >Ken gets his billions of dollars and leaves the business world to try and rebuild a life with his children >Connor uses his billions to fund his future Presidential campaigns >Roman checks himself into a psych ward and makes a full recovery then rekindles with Gerri
Will be seriously disappointed if Kendall doesn't go full Logan and ends up on top by ruthlessly fricking all his siblings. They have been setting it up all season, especially the last two episodes. >Matteson refuses to disclose fraudulent numbers ahead of the buyout >Shiv is not to be trusted now ever >Roman outer himself as a purple little b***h in front of the entire American power structure
Alternate theory >Kendall ends up as CEO, acquires GoJo, and then GoJo crashes entirety of WayStar because everything ends up being bullshit not just India numbers
>Shiv convinces President Mencken to let the deal go through >Mattson buys Waystar-Royco and makes Tom or Greg CEO >Shiv gets fricked over and left with nothing, also Tom divorces her and Ken/Roman hate her >Ken gets his billions of dollars and leaves the business world to try and rebuild a life with his children >Connor uses his billions to fund his future Presidential campaigns >Roman checks himself into a psych ward and makes a full recovery then rekindles with Gerri
Ken will go full Logan, have a moment where it looks like he wins, and then Shiv takes it to make the point that the world has moved on from Logan, and even Ken doing it right isn't enough anymore. Shiv unseats Mencken with some breaking news or some court battle bullshit and takes it with Tom as her personal and professional cuck, but bumble's the frick out of something immediately and loses it. Roman is offered it but just fricking wilts like a flower and refuses. All that is left is untainted Greg the Egg and he has power over Gojo because he's got the blood transfer blackmail. Greg is king and Tom is his second. Final shot is of Greg sitting in the ceo chair and then ordering Tom to get him a coffee. FIN
I called it on the first episode. The series is programmed for rewatching to be fulfilling because of how obvious Greg's rise to the top is in a second viewing. The show starts Logan, Kendall, then let's spend some fricking time with Greg in a mascot costume. It's going to be Greg after a series of fake outs.
They'll all end up faceplanting. Just because kendall wants to be his dad doesnt make it so. Logans last words to them were that they werent serious people. They have no talent or skills, theyre morons. All they have is money and their dads last name.
Nah, you can see it the last few episodes. >Kendall stepping up from bumbling moron to deliver crucial keynote that undermines GoJo deal valuation >Kendall marshalling his father's confidants to his side to undermine acquisition >Kendall making the call to literally choose what is painted to be the worst possible presidential candidate because it fits his agenda >Kendall stepping up at the funeral to unfrick Roman's epic fail >Kendall pulling Logan move to keep Colin quiet >Kendall is the only sibling to attempt and partially succeed in stifling the corporate machinations of his father >Greg will 100% land somewhere near the top of the pile >Tom will as well because despite his own agenda, he is shown to be loyal but moreso out of fear than admiration >Kendall "wins" but destroys all his personal and familial relationships in the process (just like his father)
>its a kendall achieves a phyrrhic victory theory
I'll only accept this if he sudokus afterwards when he realizes that this was all for nothing. All he ever wanted was his father's love and respect and now he can't get it.
The sudoku portion is where he ends up acquiring GoJo, but all the numbers are fricked and it ends up tanking the entire company. Matteson won't give the release the numbers for a reason and wants the merger to happen fast because in reality everything is made up
Then you’re a brainlet and you’re filtered like every other pleb “Greg wins” shit-for-brains frickwit in the thread. The only thing holding back Ken before was his desire to be a good person, and a better person than his father. It’s his guilt that made him depressed and suicidal. Ken has no guilt left. He’s said multiple times over the last few episodes that he doesn’t know if he’s a good person, and that the world isn’t a nice place, and that’s how he’s playing the game. He’s playing it like his dad - to win, which means fricking scorched Earth, total war, raze the towns and rape the weeping widows.
>Then you’re a brainlet and you’re filtered like every other pleb “Greg wins” shit-for-brains frickwit in the thread.
Chill out bro. I do want Ken to win, I really do, but I just don't think it's possible without there being a catch. And no, him losing all of his close friends and family is not enough.
Sure, he's playing it like his dad, but he can never truly be like Logan. He doesn't have the conscience, or therefore lack of, for it. If he succeeds he's gonna self sabotage and destruct somehow, like he always does.
>father. It’s his guilt that made him depressed and suicidal.
Thank god someone here gets why Ken was suicidal in S2. With Logan dead and his relationships with his family broken he has no reason to commit suicide because in the previous seasons he wanted to be seen as the martyr but now he has fully embraced the corrupt world he thinks his father had made and used
my prediction: 10000 year time skip. movie opens to alien androids excavating an ice age earth which froze on account of climat change caused by coporate greed. the aliens uneartyh the frozen roys boys and grant their wishes with alien robot magic. final shot is zoom out showing that the entire excavation site is actually shivs giant frozen ass
I just thought the writing was wonkier than the previous seasons and pointless. Logan’s character also became too cartoony and annoying to watch. Too much birthday and the one with Brody were fine episodes though
>Kendall is portrayed as an incompetent moron for 3 seasons >suddenly starts being competent after Logan's death so we can do the corny Michael Corleone shit and wrap this thing up fast
nice writing there
>Its our final episode >lets fly the entire cast and crew to the carribean to film a couple scenes of family conflict that could have easily been filmed in a boardroom or apartment >no we totally aren't sticking our thumb in HBOs eye
I mean you made it up based off nothing besides your favorite tv show getting mogged by /succ/, HBO greenlighted The Palace by the same producers, with massive salaries (Kate Winslet) and sets and locations
Is Matsson not gonna do anything about Eb-ba leaking all his shit? She's done it twice now.
I know he likes to keep her close because of the blood shenanigans, but can't he just hire someone to clean that whole situation up for him?
Seriously, what's his play here?
I think he just doesn't know, like how Ken didn't know Shiv was working with Mattson until the election episode. It's sort of moronic but it's what they're going for
I think he's legit just feigned weakness to make Kendall feel like a big shark man who can just come in and clean house before getting cucked with bad assets
I mean I’ve been pleasantly surprised how good it’s been after he died, but it’s also a giant plot point to lean on. I really think if Logan wasn’t played so well this show would be like a 5/10, and I think it’s easily a 7/10 with him.
The show without him has been like 9/10 but yeah they wouldn't have been able to keep up this level of almost peak Sopranos tier quality for two seasons. They were smart to kill him off when they did
Is Kendall really not super unlikable to you? He’s super insecure but instead of embracing it or trying to gain confidence he is a wigger instead and it comes off just sad, he’s not very business savvy but he thinks he is, he’s mopey. Like Roman at least knows he’s not Logan tier talented and acts accordingly. I’m genuinely curious what you see in that character.
>insecure >sad >mopey
I like that in a character.
Seriously though, he's your classic resilient underdog in a sense, though he started out as the "chosen one".
He's also the only competent sibling and the only one striving for his own liberation from their father's shadow.
Fair enough, I kinda wish I did like him because I’m sure I’d like the show more, he’s kind of the main character. But he just really rubs me the wrong way, maybe he reminds me of flaws of my own or something I dunno. I still think Roman is more competent then Kendall though, he’s just “not a serious person” most of the time.
I don't think Kendall is not business savvy, the opposite really. His execution was the shitty aspect due to his insecurities. It appears he has the execution part in hand now.
I agree, not a single israelite, troony or black GOD in the main cast, also good writing and acting which is racist (like any other form of excellence). THIS. IS. NOT. OKAY.
Not a single israelite in the cast, they even joke about it. Truly another shoah, and an impossible standard of quality (white supremacy) for the more diverse, trans friendly shows from disney+ and netflix
Sarah Snook seemed particuarly pissed that she wasn't told this was the final season. So hopefully that means Shiv rots and doesn't get a bullshit feministic power fantasy.
For a while now I’ve wanted to go through all the shows for the past 10-15 years or show and rate how white they are, and how good they are, and see if there’s a correlation. But I think I already know the answer and it would just be depressing to find out for sure
Cousin greg comes out on top.
what exactly is the poetic denouement of greg becoming CEO? this isn't game of thrones, shit doens't just happen for the lulz or for shock value. I'm glad they baited you all in the last couple episodes with the whole Matsson liking Greg thing.
he will be matsson's puppet us ceo
greg does not have CEO energy
he made the politicians in the hearing his b***hes for starters
After Roman got blown the frick out last episodes the assorted neo nazis and misogynists that for some reason have attached themselves to this show literally only have some rugpull twist left to get their daddy Matsson based Cinemaphile swede into power at the end.
they said it was gonna be an open ending, and inconclusive
>THIS IS LIKE GAME OF THRONES BUT THE OFFICE XD
This dude nailed it. The show sucks. You're all dumb homosexuals who continue to gobble HBOshit.
>Shiv convinces President Mencken to let the deal go through
>Mattson buys Waystar-Royco and makes Tom or Greg CEO
>Shiv gets fricked over and left with nothing, also Tom divorces her and Ken/Roman hate her
>Ken gets his billions of dollars and leaves the business world to try and rebuild a life with his children
>Connor uses his billions to fund his future Presidential campaigns
>Roman checks himself into a psych ward and makes a full recovery then rekindles with Gerri
>>Ken gets his billions of dollars and leaves the business world to try and rebuild a life with his children
if only
Why is one of them a paki?
Adopted
So they adopted her once they figured out the other one is some kind of tard? They couldn't get a blonde one with all their money?
Will be seriously disappointed if Kendall doesn't go full Logan and ends up on top by ruthlessly fricking all his siblings. They have been setting it up all season, especially the last two episodes.
>Matteson refuses to disclose fraudulent numbers ahead of the buyout
>Shiv is not to be trusted now ever
>Roman outer himself as a purple little b***h in front of the entire American power structure
Alternate theory
>Kendall ends up as CEO, acquires GoJo, and then GoJo crashes entirety of WayStar because everything ends up being bullshit not just India numbers
Don’t see it ending any other way honestly.
Ken will go full Logan, have a moment where it looks like he wins, and then Shiv takes it to make the point that the world has moved on from Logan, and even Ken doing it right isn't enough anymore. Shiv unseats Mencken with some breaking news or some court battle bullshit and takes it with Tom as her personal and professional cuck, but bumble's the frick out of something immediately and loses it. Roman is offered it but just fricking wilts like a flower and refuses. All that is left is untainted Greg the Egg and he has power over Gojo because he's got the blood transfer blackmail. Greg is king and Tom is his second. Final shot is of Greg sitting in the ceo chair and then ordering Tom to get him a coffee. FIN
>Greg is king
Not gonna happen bro.
I called it on the first episode. The series is programmed for rewatching to be fulfilling because of how obvious Greg's rise to the top is in a second viewing. The show starts Logan, Kendall, then let's spend some fricking time with Greg in a mascot costume. It's going to be Greg after a series of fake outs.
not gonna happen but would be fricking Kino if true
They'll all end up faceplanting. Just because kendall wants to be his dad doesnt make it so. Logans last words to them were that they werent serious people. They have no talent or skills, theyre morons. All they have is money and their dads last name.
Lol if you think the show’s sole point is that nepotism is bad then you’re not watching it.
Nah, you can see it the last few episodes.
>Kendall stepping up from bumbling moron to deliver crucial keynote that undermines GoJo deal valuation
>Kendall marshalling his father's confidants to his side to undermine acquisition
>Kendall making the call to literally choose what is painted to be the worst possible presidential candidate because it fits his agenda
>Kendall stepping up at the funeral to unfrick Roman's epic fail
>Kendall pulling Logan move to keep Colin quiet
>Kendall is the only sibling to attempt and partially succeed in stifling the corporate machinations of his father
>Greg will 100% land somewhere near the top of the pile
>Tom will as well because despite his own agenda, he is shown to be loyal but moreso out of fear than admiration
>Kendall "wins" but destroys all his personal and familial relationships in the process (just like his father)
>its a kendall achieves a phyrrhic victory theory
I'll only accept this if he sudokus afterwards when he realizes that this was all for nothing. All he ever wanted was his father's love and respect and now he can't get it.
The sudoku portion is where he ends up acquiring GoJo, but all the numbers are fricked and it ends up tanking the entire company. Matteson won't give the release the numbers for a reason and wants the merger to happen fast because in reality everything is made up
Then you’re a brainlet and you’re filtered like every other pleb “Greg wins” shit-for-brains frickwit in the thread. The only thing holding back Ken before was his desire to be a good person, and a better person than his father. It’s his guilt that made him depressed and suicidal. Ken has no guilt left. He’s said multiple times over the last few episodes that he doesn’t know if he’s a good person, and that the world isn’t a nice place, and that’s how he’s playing the game. He’s playing it like his dad - to win, which means fricking scorched Earth, total war, raze the towns and rape the weeping widows.
>Then you’re a brainlet and you’re filtered like every other pleb “Greg wins” shit-for-brains frickwit in the thread.
Chill out bro. I do want Ken to win, I really do, but I just don't think it's possible without there being a catch. And no, him losing all of his close friends and family is not enough.
Sure, he's playing it like his dad, but he can never truly be like Logan. He doesn't have the conscience, or therefore lack of, for it. If he succeeds he's gonna self sabotage and destruct somehow, like he always does.
but its not a ending if the main character doesnt die anon narratives have to end when they end or its unsatisfying
>father. It’s his guilt that made him depressed and suicidal.
Thank god someone here gets why Ken was suicidal in S2. With Logan dead and his relationships with his family broken he has no reason to commit suicide because in the previous seasons he wanted to be seen as the martyr but now he has fully embraced the corrupt world he thinks his father had made and used
my prediction: 10000 year time skip. movie opens to alien androids excavating an ice age earth which froze on account of climat change caused by coporate greed. the aliens uneartyh the frozen roys boys and grant their wishes with alien robot magic. final shot is zoom out showing that the entire excavation site is actually shivs giant frozen ass
I'd fund this gofundme but only if it's a prequel
Season 4 has been one of the best seasons of any show ever so far, every episode has been at least 8/10. Don't @ me if seething plebe
Rank the seasons. Imo its
S2>S4>S1>S3
Right now it’s S4>S1>S2>S3 but it all depends on how good the finale will be
S1>S2>>S4>>>>>S3
S4 > The Sopranos > S1 > S2 > Mad Men > S3
>everyone ranking S3 as the worst
What made it so bad? Was it all the buildup and world building they were doing? The lackluster finale?
I just thought the writing was wonkier than the previous seasons and pointless. Logan’s character also became too cartoony and annoying to watch. Too much birthday and the one with Brody were fine episodes though
S4 = S1 > S2 > S3
i already forgot what happens in S3
Kek i remember plebs saying this about The Leftovers and now that show is forgotten, just like this show in a couple months
the leftovers is easily in the top 15 best shows evers
kys
2>1>3>4
this season has its moments but it feels too fricking rushed and disconected with the rest of the show
plot lines and full characters got cut
>top 15
Oof
>Oof
you have to go back
The Leftovers is a fantastic show. Every person I've ever recommended it to has rated it at least in their top 10.
>Kek i remember plebs saying this about The Leftovers
And they were right, now frick off disneytroony you lost the streaming wars
Tom gets the big job, he’s the “US CEO”
suckseshit was always destined for failure. If you want a show similar to it but that's actually good you should watch BILLIONS or Ballers.
>has a literal troon on the cover
Pass.
>trannies
>Black folk
Succession is a white man's show, no wonder you don't like it. Now get that garbage out of here it's making me sick
>a white mans show
Its just a TV show bro. Imagine getting racially defensive over a earner bros product.
no way they aren't going to milk this shit more
>He was always #1 boy
>Kendall is portrayed as an incompetent moron for 3 seasons
>suddenly starts being competent after Logan's death so we can do the corny Michael Corleone shit and wrap this thing up fast
nice writing there
>So they adopted her once they figured out the other one is some kind of tard? They couldn't get a blonde one with all their money?
This show was soft-cancelled because it was blowing millions of HBOs dollars on expensive shit, exotic filming locations and ridiculous salaries
its funny when people try to deny this
Hopefully Brian Cox will comment on it when the season ends
>Its our final episode
>lets fly the entire cast and crew to the carribean to film a couple scenes of family conflict that could have easily been filmed in a boardroom or apartment
>no we totally aren't sticking our thumb in HBOs eye
I mean you made it up based off nothing besides your favorite tv show getting mogged by /succ/, HBO greenlighted The Palace by the same producers, with massive salaries (Kate Winslet) and sets and locations
reminder that logan wanted greg to be the CEO
is this a good business show?
not really, its a character driven family drama in a business world setting
Is Matsson not gonna do anything about Eb-ba leaking all his shit? She's done it twice now.
I know he likes to keep her close because of the blood shenanigans, but can't he just hire someone to clean that whole situation up for him?
Seriously, what's his play here?
Matsson is not a serious person
I think he just doesn't know, like how Ken didn't know Shiv was working with Mattson until the election episode. It's sort of moronic but it's what they're going for
I think he's legit just feigned weakness to make Kendall feel like a big shark man who can just come in and clean house before getting cucked with bad assets
How much do you guys think Logan carried the show?
The episodes after his departura are the best of the entire show so not much, it looks like
I mean I’ve been pleasantly surprised how good it’s been after he died, but it’s also a giant plot point to lean on. I really think if Logan wasn’t played so well this show would be like a 5/10, and I think it’s easily a 7/10 with him.
The show without him has been like 9/10 but yeah they wouldn't have been able to keep up this level of almost peak Sopranos tier quality for two seasons. They were smart to kill him off when they did
That's true but only because they spent 3 seasons establishing what a domineering presence Logan is
Logan>Roman>Greg>Kendall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Down syndrome kid>shiv
>Roman and Greg above Kendall
Is Kendall really not super unlikable to you? He’s super insecure but instead of embracing it or trying to gain confidence he is a wigger instead and it comes off just sad, he’s not very business savvy but he thinks he is, he’s mopey. Like Roman at least knows he’s not Logan tier talented and acts accordingly. I’m genuinely curious what you see in that character.
>insecure
>sad
>mopey
I like that in a character.
Seriously though, he's your classic resilient underdog in a sense, though he started out as the "chosen one".
He's also the only competent sibling and the only one striving for his own liberation from their father's shadow.
Fair enough, I kinda wish I did like him because I’m sure I’d like the show more, he’s kind of the main character. But he just really rubs me the wrong way, maybe he reminds me of flaws of my own or something I dunno. I still think Roman is more competent then Kendall though, he’s just “not a serious person” most of the time.
I don't think Kendall is not business savvy, the opposite really. His execution was the shitty aspect due to his insecurities. It appears he has the execution part in hand now.
Are you trying to pre-grieve, Anon?
The show is trash to begin with, you're just starting to realize it
>The show is trash to begin with
think capeshit or euphoria might be up to your speed more, troony.
Nah I'll pass on both homosexual
I agree, not a single israelite, troony or black GOD in the main cast, also good writing and acting which is racist (like any other form of excellence). THIS. IS. NOT. OKAY.
The entire cast is israeli
no it's not
Not a single israelite in the cast, they even joke about it. Truly another shoah, and an impossible standard of quality (white supremacy) for the more diverse, trans friendly shows from disney+ and netflix
Is Kendall not israeli? He really seems israeli
the finale is 90 minutes, it will be fine
Sarah Snook seemed particuarly pissed that she wasn't told this was the final season. So hopefully that means Shiv rots and doesn't get a bullshit feministic power fantasy.
They're horrible irredeemable people, of course they're not played by israelites
>whitest show of the decade
>best show of the decade
Huh funny how that works
For a while now I’ve wanted to go through all the shows for the past 10-15 years or show and rate how white they are, and how good they are, and see if there’s a correlation. But I think I already know the answer and it would just be depressing to find out for sure