>Thomas and Martha's deaths were a total random act of violence by a nobody thief

>Thomas and Martha's deaths were a total random act of violence by a nobody thief
>Thomas and Martha's deaths were caused by the Joker before he fully became Joker
>Thomas and Martha were specifically targeted because of something to do with Wayne Enterprises

Which way do you lean?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Random act all the way

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp, his war is with crime as a concept, thus making it impossible and tragic, not just a personal more singular vendetta

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2nd one is just Batman 1989 film. Forget about it.
    3rd is the Lew Moxxon origin.
    Is Lewis current continuity?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2nd one is just Batman 1989 film. Forget about it.
      And technically in the standalone Joker movie, too. It's just indirect; it still suggests that Joker can be traced back to their deaths.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They got what they deserved.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I appreciate the element of their murder being out of resentment while still being somewhat random (Since Arthur is indirectly responsible for the riot that forces Thomas and Martha to leave through an alley that leads to their deaths).

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Random

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would they just kill the parents and not the boy too?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Random act of violence, anyone trying to make it due to some conspiracy is exactly what’s wrong with comics.

      the only people who kill kids are deranged mothers and other kids. Stick up men don’t generally have it in them to kill kids.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Police look for child murder more and other criminals will kill them in prison.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like the Eyes Wide Shut intrigue Finger added with 3

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Random act of violence because it means Bruce doesn't have a person to get vengeance against.

    "Joe Chill" or who ever it was is in prison or dead

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thomas and Martha's deaths were a total random act of violence by a nobody thief. Bruce eventually catches Joe Chill, but keeps being Batman because Batman isn't about revenge, he is about the mission. A mission of making sure no child ever has to go through what he did and no amount of "closure" will get him to stop.

      I don't even like Joe Chill. I think their deaths should've always remained a mystery. I think a cold case is always more unsettling.

      Why would you deprive us of this?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why doesnt joe just tell everyone who batman is after

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Dies from a heart attack

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Typically he dies. Originally he tried to tell others he was responsible for Batman, but the other criminals got so pissed at that they shoot him before he says just /who/ Batman is. In other stories he falls to his death or kills himself

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He tried, then got his face blown off by criminals who were pissed that he was the reason Batman existed before they realized that it meant the guy they just killed knew Batman's identity.

          Brave and the Bold cartoon did something similar except a roof collapsed on him, which the Specter definitely had nothing to do with.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he's stupid

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like how the dcau comics did it

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thomas and Martha's deaths were a total random act of violence by a nobody thief. Bruce eventually catches Joe Chill, but keeps being Batman because Batman isn't about revenge, he is about the mission. A mission of making sure no child ever has to go through what he did and no amount of "closure" will get him to stop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then it shouldn't matter if it was a random act or the Joker since he's gonna keep on being Batman anyway.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Making it a dopey conspiracy or a connection is just fricking moronic anon. And that makes joker 30-40 years older than Bruce which is also absolutely moronic.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Making it a dopey conspiracy or a connection is just fricking moronic anon
          Not at all. Just means that the problem goes way deeper than just garden variety crime.
          >And that makes joker 30-40 years older than Bruce which is also absolutely moronic.
          He was a kid when he did it. 18/19.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >that the problem goes way deeper than just garden variety crime
            That completely deleverages the entire point of Batman. Making it one person, let alone one he has a quasi-rivalry with just makes it a selfish endeavor. It being a random act of crime means what he’s doing is for the betterment of society, in his mind at least.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Random act, always.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like the idea of them being involved in the Court of Owls which lead to them getting assassinated for political reasons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off new 52 gay. Or let me put it in a way your zoomer brain can understand!
      >All of that shit was dumb AF as frick frfr no cap. Batman dont have the drip without the trunks and the court of owls wuznt bussin

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody talks like that, loser. Touch grass.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gen Z's 1996-2009. Oldest are 28, youngest are 15.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Thomas and Martha's deaths were a total random act of violence by a nobody thief
    This is literally the only good choice. Everything else sucks

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even like Joe Chill. I think their deaths should've always remained a mystery. I think a cold case is always more unsettling.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's amusing to me that the "Wayne murder was a planned hit" wasn't some modern change but something Bill Finger came up with.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They even stuck a Zorro reference into that storyline to allude to their inspiration in making Batman.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Random.

    Same with Punisher's origin, they are both at war with crime itself, not criminals. Making it targeted or a conspiracy makes it a finite story.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Random.

      Even in a finite story, it's more interesting this way.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Joe Chill.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Random act of violence, no shit. Why is this even a question? Anything else misses the entire point!

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Random criminal who dies in jail or whatever have you before Bruce becomes Batman.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like Telltale Wayne's. Shady business with good intentions, leaving Bruce in a pecurliar spot where he can play bad-boy and get closer to his enemies.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The most recent reboot of Owlman has a similar origin. He became Owlman to avenge his parents' deaths and be a vigilante like Batman, but when he found out the truth that they were actually criminals, he snapped and decided that nothing matters and became a nihilist butthole.

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