The "spoiler" you know I am talking about is not from the last chapter. It is revealed as soon as in the end of the second chapter. So the series is still worth It. Frick speedwatchers.
The "spoiler" you know I am talking about is not from the last chapter. It is revealed as soon as in the end of the second chapter. So the series is still worth It. Frick speedwatchers.
>So the series is still worth It
I disagree. I wouldn't recommend this show to anyone.
Which spoiler are you talking about?
The fact that theyre on spaceship in 2099 and all is a VR simulashun
This is not revealed until episode 10.
There are 8 episodes, you fricking moron
That's a spoiler
Yes. Of season 1.
He's talking about the second episode of season 2.
Maybe not the thing about the spaceship, but they indeed reveal about the simulation
Kek, it's revealed in the first fricking episode when they all drink their cuppa at the same time
2099 is also a simulation. The real world is stuck in 1999 and it's all connected to the y2k fear. The most popular film about the simalutions the matrix was also released in 99.
Nice try. But they're actually stuck in 1699.
nice twist. would watch.
Ugh that's such a garbage twist. It was shit in Vanilla Sky and is still shit now.
Originality is dead and has been for a long time. You're lucky to get 1 amazing film every 3 years at this point.
You could see the simulation twist coming as early as the first episode when every character in the diner suddenly takes a synchronized drink
>every film starring the military is a film about simulation
got it
>Which spoiler are you talking about?
That the Chinese girl is a virgin.
Isn't she japanese?
No. But that's a spoiler. They only reveal that she insn't Japanese in like ... the second or third scene of episode 1.
Also, seeing her without makeup kinda gives it away. Still very cute though.
>gives it away.
How?
Her facial features are unmistakenly Han Chinese. The characteristic shape of the cheeks and the (slightly) protruding cheekbones are common in Chinese people and very uncommon in Yamato Japanese. There was of course some intermingling between their people in their shared history, but it's nonetheless generally pretty easy to tell them apart.
Generally, I prefer the Japanese phenotype, but Ling Yi's actress is a particularly pretty example of a Chinese girl.
>facial features are unmistakenly Han Chinese
what the frick are you even babbling about you moronic Black person
When you watch a lot of east asian media you start to notice differences in facial features between japanese, chinese and koreans.
white/mainland chinese hand type this
she's from HK dingus
>she's from HK dingus
Where the frick do you think Hong Kong is and what ethnicity the majority of people there have?
HK and Taiwan have separate culture, moron.
>separate culture
So, let me get this straight: Because the ethnically Han Chinese people that settled in Hong Kong have developed a different culture than the Han Chinese people around them, that means that their phenotype completely changed and they have completely different facial features? Is that the point you're trying to make?
You are aware that a few centuries of culture doesn't affect genetics like that, right?
>That the Chinese girl is a virgin.
gross
It's actually revealed in the prologue of the first episode. But you have to pay attention to what is said to pick up on it.
The trailer showed that this show features some kind of black magic and supernatural powers, so why should the thought
>Everyone drank at the same time, they must be in some kind of mind control by the black magic
or
>The supernatural power caused it
be omitted and the thought
>Dude, it's all just a simulation
should be obvious? There is nothing in that scene that hints to a stimulation in any way.
>Everyone drank at the same time
I still find it silly that people saw it as a surefire sign the series was about simulation.
Everyone in Dark always did the same thing because they were the same people always. Yet none of them was simulated. Both series are about free will.
>There is nothing in that scene that hints to a stimulation in any way.
Combined with all of the prologue scene being a poem of how the human brain is capable of containing entire worlds larger than reality, it all being some sort of illusion is a much more intuitive conclusion than some black magic.
The chink's hand glitches out during that scene.
Where? I don't see it. You sure it was an actual glitch and not Netflix's terrible bitrate?
It's a purposeful glitch. Watch it again. It happens right at the beginning when you see her lift up her cup of tea.
Alright, I saw it now. Although I have to say I didn't notice that really when I watched it the first time.
Don't waste your time with this shit.
you draw that picture, you sad frick?
Cope and seethe netflix shill, your show is terrible.
I will poopenfarten in your mouth! You!
>poopenfarten
Not a word. Sounds vaguely Dutch though.
Thanks for warning me.
Thank you gentlemen. I do not enjoy blacks on my tv screen and I mean Black folk of course.
Shan't be watching.
based
typing text isn't drawing, cretin
oh that comfy Winden-feel
>tfw Winden is supposed to be near Hessen
>filmed all just a few kilometers from where I grew up in Brandenburg
>now 1899 filmed the asylum scenes in an abandoned hospital which I visited over a dozen times
It's all so comfy but also kinda unsettling.
anybody who UNIRONICALLY goes into a netfricks production and expects anything more than cheap cgi, a brown cast and female faces talking on screen for 100 minutes is a braindead npc and needs to be bolted
>cheap CGI
>they built literally a new tech that allows for projecting backgrounds on the actual sets without having to use greenscreen
and? it still looks and feels like soulless literal goyslop
I tried about 12 netshits productions over several years and every single dooky felt the same, it felt like a chore, a lecture helt by a brown feminist about their hurtin and my privilege
if they can entice you with 2 minutes of graphics to cram 2 hours of brainwashing into your head then you truly deserve it
>"goyslop"
>"feminist"
>"brainwashing"
Plot twist: YOU are the NPC here.
sure, looking through their deceits and calling out their manipulation tactics is bluepilled
yep, that's why their crop is a decaying corpse
no triggering here, I gave their bullshit a fair shot and now know to avoid their propaganda snorefests
you seem to be mad projecting seething friend
t. programmed to post jpgs and to "redpill" the "sheep"
>no triggering here
Sure, you aren't at all triggered to the point where you spam racist and right-wing drivel all over a thread for a show you totally don't care about.
>he doesn't enjoy paying to watch a fat black woman lecturing him for 2 hours, fricking racist right winged bigot
take your pills and cut off your dick, we talking about bad screenplay here, not politics, ok?
>talking like this is normal for /misc/cels
absolutely brainrotted
>a fat black woman lecturing him for 2 hours
I must have missed that scene in 1899.
It was real in his head.
>no triggering here
That's why you started posting about something you dislike...
You're showing typical triggered symptoms. When a normal person sees something they don't like they don't get upset and start going on tirades.
>if you don't like my propaganda then keep it to your fricking self or get berated by a bunch of troonys
that is how you try to sell your absolute garbage as way more accepted than it actually is, you are a promoter that is working for FREE because it represents your fanatic beliefs
/pol/tards are basically racist soccer moms
>racist soccer moms
Aren't soccer moms racist to begin with?
not by definition but their main trait is being naggy about any piece of media
>you truly deserve it
Indeed. Everyone gets what they deserve. Lots of peopel enjoy 1899, and they deserve the enjoyment they get from it.
You, on the other hand, deserve to be triggered by all the "feminism" and "cucking" that only exist in your head, /misc/tard.
>Lots of peopel enjoy 1899
enjoying movies or series is just not a thing on Cinemaphile
you revealed to be an outsider here
enjoy your entertainment somewhere else and dont bore us with your joy, ok?
>enjoying movies or series is just not a thing on Cinemaphile
It used to be. Back before the great influx of literal /r/eddit tourists via /misc/ in 2016.
is this series worth bothering? I'm 5 minutes in and it stinks of your bog standard netflix goyslop
Stop now. Only 10 more minutes before the Black person appears.
>it stinks of your bog standard netflix goyslop
You don't know much about film, do you?
The first five minutes alone have more impressive cinematography than all American things on Netflix combined.
not what I asked, and not a measure of quality
if this post is a result of your film knowledge, you have wasted your time
>not a measure of quality
You literally do not know anything about film.
Is this just one season or it's going to have multiple?
Also, is this a boat kino or not even close
Apparently they have plans for three seasons.
A second one is practically guaranteed, provided Netflix isn't moronic enough to cancel it right after giving it a huge budget to build an innovative studio complex.
>Is this just one season or it's going to have multiple?
Multiple. First season is literaly just a setup.
>Also, is this a boat kino or not even close
Not close.
Aren't most of those youtubers?
Boat show made by people who have never been on boats or did any research on how a ship crew operates or what boats looked like or how people even talked pre1900
but they do have these 2 bickering workmen in the boiler room that feel like those 2 comic relief redcoats from pirates of the caribbean.
>that feel like those 2 comic relief redcoats from pirates of the caribbean.
>t. never read Hamlet
Those two guys were funny yeah
I wanted to see the asian girls boobs so bad tho
>I wanted to see the asian girls boobs so bad tho
Obviously. Maybe in season 2.
Either way, the girl deserves a huge career. She's a great actress.
Hope it gets a 2nd season
Just sucks that itll be out in maybe 2 years if anything
>Hope it gets a 2nd season
They built a studio complex with a giant LED cage just for this series. They've already invested in them heavily, so it's almost certain that it'll get another season. Especially since the Friese/Odar duo are known to deliver higher quality productions than anyone else working for Netflix.
Wait really? Damn
Feels refreshing that theres finally another high quality series on netflix besides all the mediocre trash
>I wanted to see the asian girls boobs so bad tho
Isabella Wei just turned 18 six months ago.
Which means she was technically a minor when they filmed season 1.
She won't be a minor when they film season 2. Just saying.
that makes it kinda hotter?
She's hot enough already either way.
daymn
Dark is a pretty big deal for her.
I hope it'll be her breakout role. She seems like a sweet girl and an amazing actress.
>Dark
*1899
>Isabella Wei just turned 18 six months ago.
So... she undressed nude partially maybe in front of at least 10 people, camera, audio guys etc lol hot
please they literally have a knock-off of the whole "well i have seen a ship with black sails" conversation
>please
Yes, please read Hamlet. There's a long history of comedic relief characters in drama, and Hamlet is the historically popular example with a duo of comedic gravediggers.
>elements used to mark things
Probably 4 seasons in total.
is that Malwanne?????????????? which ep is she on
tbh I suspect the spoiler was the case from just the first 15 or so minutes of the first episode.
The scene that pretty much gives it away happens at the 10:53 mark in the first episode. And it was in the trailers.
Yeah, this is when everyone suspected it was some sort of simulation, but I find it hard anyone guessed that they were in a spaceship at the turn of the 22nd century.
The spaceship part isn't really that important, especially considering that it's very likely that that itself is also just another layer of the simulation.
That there was a simulation is what some people see as a big twist. But like you said, they didn't even try to hide it.
A flashlight appears in like episode 2 or 3. Obviously time was involved again.
it's so fricking stupid that people equate synchronicity with simulation. why would weird (even borderline impossible) coincidences imply simulation? why would a simulation not be able to have everyone just behave normally? this is beyond moronic.
The NPCs are initialized with a routine before the first event (the boy looking for a doctor) runs.
sure, and why was the routine the same for every single NPC other than to tell the audience that what the story they're watching unfold is, in fact, LE SIMULATION
*that the story
red herring, kebabzinga!
I found it really boring only got through two episodes and I fell asleep during the second
yes, its boring and does not even come close to the masterpiece that DARK is.
Dark is also a boring shitpile
found the low iq
i m a native german speaker and it is one of the best shows, if not the best, that has ever came out of germany. its german to the core. deals with lots of german trauma.
1899 is just a mess. all those different languages and storylines that never get resolved. the story got stretched and stretched. lots of crawling around too. overall a shitshow. they got a huge budget and made a big mess out of it. very, very disappointing. wont recommend.
>1899 is just a mess
as a fellow german, i enjoyed the multi language stuff i mean its taking place in the 19th century so...
>they got a huge budget and made a big mess out of it
yeah youre trolling
>all those different languages
Maybe you just don't like reading subtitles?
>and storylines that never get resolved
1899 has resolved more of its plotlines than Dark had at the end of its first season.
>Maybe you just don't like reading subtitles?
I do but they took a huge bite and couldnt chew or swallow it. just too ambitious and convoluted. well, just my opinion but not what I was hoping for.
strong female lead that does not need no man - check
opressed gays - check
feminist madame - check
BORING WOKE SHIT WRITTEN BY A CHILDLESS WINEAUNT ON HER PERIOD SIMULATING WHAT IT IS LIKE HAVING A MIGRAINE
>just too ambitious and convoluted
what? how was this too ambitious and convoluted?
not even in the slightest
>opressed gays - check
>feminist madame - check
its a lot calmer than darks trans stuff, get down off your pol horse
>convoluted
I didn't find it convoluted at all. Compared to Dark, this story is much more linear and arguably much easier to follow without even having to pay much attention. (Paying attention to details still pays off though.)
>strong female lead that does not need no man
But she DOES need a man. It's literally a man who comes in to save the day and help her "escape". She's also being painted as a clingy mother, whose unwillingness to let go led to all of the setting in the first place. That's the opposite of strength. That's emotional weakness.
>opressed gays
I don't think they're opressed in any way. Except maybe the guy who suffers from a radically religious mother, but she's a problem in herself.
>feminist madame
And also a pimp and a manipulator. Not a very sympathetic character.
>WOKE
That's just a stupid buzzword and you know it.
the whole time I kept thinking this was written by a women who has no kids and somehow is mad at her father and misses her brother. a lost women in her late thirties being whiny and angry all the time.
an introspective show about being a childless wineaunt that goes one and on and and on and on and on. is this the way a woman feels like being on a period?
A female migraine simulation?
>human emotions are so lame
>i hate woman
the post
I have sisters that failed as women. no husbands, no family. I had to listen to this whiny shit since I m a teenager. my father failed them. they allowed them to be bawds and now they whine and drink whine.
I admire women. Being a childless bawd with lots of sexual experience thought is just SAD.
what german trauma? are krautoids still buttblasted about versailles or what? does dark deal with it by being a boring shitpile? you frickers are really autistic
>loss of german (non-european) genetic stock
>a tragedy
>its german to the core
sister/cousin/circular is a german core??
Du verstehst nicht weil du kein Deutscher bist
Dark is quintessentially German and it wouldn't have worked if it weren't
jerries like incest
>DOODE WHAT IF YOU FRICK YOUR MOTHER IN ANOTHER TIMELINE AND YOU GIVE BIRTH TO YOUR FATHER
How do you think we managed to perfect precision to an almost autistic level? It just isn't possible if my mom isn't my sister and aunt at the same time.
That was probably the most boring first episode of anything I ever watched.
Just finished binge watching it
Really liked it solid 8.5/10
I really hope they at least get a 2nd season
main villain is gonna be a rogue ai right
I don't think so. I'd go further and say that there won't be a main villain in the traditional sense.
Look at Dark: No one there had a malicious agenda, but everybody had AN agenda. Everyone was the good guy from his own perspective. Everyone meant well.
ehh theyre already "in space" in an advanced spaceship
... or are they?
DUN DUN DUUUUUN
Well if they aren't, they must be even further into the future. Think about it, how would a civilization in 1999 be able to create spaceships like that to begin with, or even the simulation? I think we're truly in 3099.
>how would a civilization in 1999 be able to create spaceships like that to begin with, or even the simulation?
Just like Stanley Kubrick created spaceships in 1968, or George Lucas did in 1977. Making some shit up that works in-universe doesn't require that you have the knowledge to build somthing like it out-of-universe.
>watch show
>15 minutes in a Black person appears
>Black person is, somehow, an officer on an ocean liner in the 19th century
This is as far as I could stomach this goyslop.
>watch show
>Black person is, somehow, an officer
Ah, so did in fact NOT watch it.
How can you even think that? The very first thing you see the Black person do is steal a uniform. Just another proof /misc/Black folk are genuinely fricking moronic.
>"german"
>directed by a kebabburner and a turk
>a turk
Believe it or not, but many second generation turks in Germany are integrated to a point where they're more stereotypically German than any Germans around them.
Are they blue eyed blondes?
No, but some are literally indistinguishable from tanned dark-haired Germans. And those do exist.
Still no blue eyes. The loss of Northern European genetic stock is a tragedy.
>Still no blue eyes.
Not all ethnic Germans have blue eyes.
Fun fact, blue eyes are more prevail than being blond. So a black haired blue eye german is more common than blond hair! (real genetic, undyed one)
>germany
>Northern European genetics
lmao, get a load of this dumb moron
that's only because germs themselves are Black person-like to begin with
>Black person-like
Now you're conflating so much /misc/ bullshit that you're not making any sense anymore.
huh the titanic sank in 1912
OH SHIT
>MAH SON
>DEY TOOK MAH SON
it's shaping up to be LOST on a boat after just one episode and i'm not sure it's a good idea to continue
I hope season 2 is in space and doesn't go back to the fricking boat
>DUDE IT'S A SIMULATION
what a load of horse shit
Since Germans lack any semblance of sophistication I'll guess everything is just a simulation, given the heavy-handed computer shite in the intro. Also the multilingual shit is annoying and so is the LE WHYT MEN!!1 whinery.
>multilingual bad because...... IT JUST IS
The absolute state of Amerilardians
It serves zero purpose, in fact it's fricking moronic in this garbage where the captain asks the dumb woman something in German and she replies in English wow good job morons. Why would the captain address someone in German in the first place, on a ship with international passengers? English is the lingua franca and therefore it should be his default. But understanding that would require not being a woke moron who uses multilingualism as yet another moron attempt at cramming in more worthless diversity because DIVERSITY.. LE GOOD
>English is the lingua franca
Not in 1900. And in fact, there are multiple people on the boat that speak German but not English, simply because they're geographically much closer to Germany.
I'm wondering if that's all just brain manipulation. They could be doing a Talos Principle thing and "preserve" history in a simulated environment until they find the next planet to repopulate.
it's annoying for me because it's so fricking dark I can't see shit. they should have it dark 2: darker, because all I can see are the fricking subtitles.
and then I have to look at those because I speak english, some spanish, and a little bit of german, but not fricking portugese and mandarin and polish and danish as well. So I was just reading subtitles the whole show and nothing else. the 30 seconds of well lit shots per episode looked really nice tho.
>it's annoying for me because it's so fricking dark I can't see shit.
Change your monitor settings. Lower gamma, higher contrast. Also try making your surroundings as dark as possible. Don't watch it midday next to a window on your PC monitor.
>chapter
Did you mean to say episode?
He's a spic
You have to read so many subtitles it's basically a book
I got to the part with the Black person in episode 1 then immediately closed out. The premise didn’t really grip me anyway. Oh well. Lightning rarely strikes twice.
This is dreadfully boring. The drab color tone, acting, the "subplots". Reminds me of Dark and that shit put me to sleep.
>next season is just another layer of simulation
>third and last season wraps up with the fact that you can't stop these simulations and it's all just an endless loop
>It is revealed as soon as in the end of the second chapter
Too soon. What's the point of the misdirection with the ship company if they're gonna instantly show the characters are being monitored by some modern/futuristic tech? Should've really waited until like episode 4.
>What's the point of the misdirection
There is no misdirection. The audience is supposed to be aware of something going on being the scenes.
>Cinemaphile hates it because there's a Black person
Guaranteed kino, thanks for the recommendation.
Why'd Maura's husband ''kill'' the danish little girl in episode 2 using his device? Still don't get what that's about.
How woke is this show? I tried watching the first episode and there's already a super smart female doctor being oppressed. It fits the setting but does it get super preachy later on?
>muh woke
I guess people like you see what they want to see.
imdb should add woke scenes in the parents guide section
The only wokeness I can see is a few sexist comments towards the MC and the french woman getting with the BBC (after her pathetic white husband couldn't satisfy her in bed)
>the french woman getting with the BBC
Doesn't happen.
>her pathetic white husband couldn't satisfy her in bed
Are you seriously calling him pathetic for having a brain tumor?
>Doesn't happen.
Are you kidding me? The only thing left is the actual penetration. Their last scene together the camera focused on them holding hands. Do you think that signifies that they're just good friends? Do you have brain damage?
>Are you seriously calling him pathetic for having a brain tumor?
Everything about the guy is pathetic.
>Are you kidding me? The only thing left is the actual penetration.
You're seeing things you want to see. Only actual penetration left? They haven't kissed. They haven't shared any moment of intimacy. Yeah, your brief handholing scene was literally the height of that "relationship". All they ever do is bond over the husband's death. That's it.
If only I could return to a time when I was this naive. The fricking writer wrote this specifically to spite the rise on nationalists in Europe, you think they are going to include a black guy in the main cast without him penetrate a white woman? Get a fricking grip.
>wrote this specifically to spite the rise on nationalists in Europe
You're obviously brainwashed by said nationalist if you can only ever see stuff through /misc/-tinted glasses.
He's right. Just like Maura asks Daniel ''have we met before?'' without remembering he was her husband, Clemence says the same when she first meets Jerome. Don't act surprised when they're the actual couple outside the simulation.
>Don't act surprised when they're the actual couple outside the simulation.
If they are, then that's hardly "cucking" anyone.
The problem here is that you guys love jumping to conclusions based on nothing at all.
There's a gay sex scene in ep 2
legitimately thought Dark was 11/10, one of the best shows ever made
will I like this? how pozzed is it?
>how pozzed is it?
Not. Unless you're one of those who get triggered by the mere presence of a black guy.
I loved dark and absolutely hated 1899, it's a bit pozzed but it's not the reason i hated it
>how pozzed is it?
More than Dark, also not as promising. But it's worth watching. The costumes, settings and overall visuals are great.
The writting and storytelling is a lot inferior to Dark. As the other anon said, it's convoluted and the very on-the-nose "muh I'm a woman in a men's world and I'll prove them wrong" is, specially for a netflix show, an already overused trope. Character relationships are awfully rushed and a lot of lines are simply mediocre.
Though I did not expect the same thing as Dark, 1899 just didn't feel like a whole, separate piece of artwork. It often seemed they tried to recreate the general eerieness of Dark, (I mean, soundtrack-wise, it felt as if I was watching a spinoff, old Jonas being the captain didn't help either), but failing at presenting compelling characters. I literally could not care for any of them after the first episode, their stories almost an absolute mess or simply uninteresting. Compare that to the Dark pilot. This is a much weaker show.
Plot twist: the characters' backstories were bland and uninteresting because they were all made up in a hurry to get the simulation going and will get more interesting the higher up we move on the reality ladder
if the first episodes are boring no one will bother watching the rest
>everything has to be done exactly like this or it will not succeed
based executive telling them like it is
>the characters' backstories
>backstories
Apart from Maura and Daniel, there wasn't any real backstory.
The Black person most likely wasn't a french legionnaire.
Tove might is probably not pregnant.
The Angel and Ramiro are probably not running away from the law
I'm now hoping it will be a mix between old ship stories ("I killed someone and now I'm changing continents") and The Labyrinth by Stalenhag ("Yeah, so we had to kill lots of people so humanity could survive. Big sorry!").
>that fricking c**t of a shit hole dog
what the frick was his fricking problem?
>1899 just didn't feel like a whole, separate piece of artwork.
Maybe that's because you've only seen one season yet? It obviously isn't a whole at this point.
>soundtrack-wise, it felt as if I was watching a spinoff
Same composer.
>I literally could not care for any of them after the first episode
The first episode doesn't really go into any of the characters. That comes in episodes 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7.
For your comparision with Dark: The first episode of that didn't tell you much about the characters either. It just established the setting.
Now that I marathoned the rest of the season and the dust is settling. I can tell you that this shows problem is that even characters that aren't supposed to be npcs feel like npcs.
I fricking hate this "NPC" buzzword that treats literally anything like a videogame.
Why is it NPCs put the F word in all their sentences?
so should i stop after 1 episode if i know what's good for me?
lame. i was expecting dark 2.
>i was expecting dark 2.
Kek. You may jest, but I unironically think that half of the people complaining about 1899 (the half that doesn't get triggered by the black guy) literally went into this expecting to get the exact same thing as Dark.
i was expecting some Lovecraftian business after episode 1, and what a frickig disappointment.
they had the right setup, people losing their sanity, ship lost on sea reappears with everyone fricking vanished except one survivor who holds a mysterious black stone, it had potential and i really thought we're going in that direction ... but no, fricking spaceship simulation, what a fricking borefest, that's a weekend i'll never get back
>i was expecting
That's on you. No one promised you Lovecraft.
With the older Jonas actor coming back, I just think it would be funny if Jonas was in a vicious reincarnation cycle of teetering existence/non-existence and his suffering extended beyond infinity.
i want that now
Watching this show feels like watching a by-the-numbers checklist, didn't expect anything less from Netflix shit
You boys know how to shovel coal?
Just like you'd shovel anything else, I assume. But with coal.
>IT WAS ALL IN LE HEAD XD
sooo deeeppp
>10 minutes in the first episode
>women already crying how the world is unfair to them
sigh
I try, guys
i ended up deleting it after the first episode ended and am confident it was the correct decision
sometimes you just have to go with your gut
>t. delicate snowflakes
yes yes i know, filtered /misc/gay raciss drumph supporter etc. etc.
it has nothing to do with any of that
it was just clear that it was going to be LOST on a boat except nowhere near as good as LOST because instead of being comfy islandkino, it was just pure darkness and despair depressive shit not to mention the >N-flix bitrate is absolute horse shit nowadays so there were constantly more artifacts all over the screen than a god damn Indiana Jones movie
long story short, no thanks
>le comfy xD
Shut the frick up, reverse SJW.
>it was just clear that it was going to be LOST on a boat
It's literally nothing like LOST, moron.
Interesting that you literally watched 10 minutes of one episode and jumped to the most moronic conclusion possible.
i watched the first episode fully
yea i suppose more like a mashup of LOST and Event Horizon was more accurately the vibe
>the vibe
Sure. Keep talking about your vibes. You're misinformed, and wilfully so.
Frick off Rajesh, find a better job than being their shill
is this a netflix adaption of pic related?
no, that movie is good
I can definitely see where the son got the moron genes in that movie. main character had the iq of a vegetable.
Personally I'm a bit weirded out how much my immersion was destroyed by knowing the location of the "asylum" inside out in real life. It's as if they had filmed those parts in my own house.
>It's as if they had filmed those parts in my own house.
I'm sorry to hear that your house looks like that, anon.
The entire show could have been one 20 minute Rick & Morty episode. Fricking waste of time. Don't bother wathcing this shit
It wasn't terrible or anything. But it certainly was not even close to DARK. 1899 was too much a mash-up of tropes plus a very ambitious multi-language setup. I can admire the effort but it didn't work out like they had wanted. It's too much everything else instead of being something of its own. Let's hope the next season(s) can tie it all together to be something larger than this okay-ish first season.
Honestly, I'm glad it wasn't period-drama boatkino
Is this show in English or some stupid ching chong foreigner language like Dark?
English, german, dutch, french, spanish, and chinese are all the languages spoken by various characters
So subtitles are mandatory
13th floor did sim within a sim ages ago.
>13th floor did sim within a sim
All that we see or seem,
is just a sim within a sim.
– Edgar Allan Poe
Your "13th floor" isn't as innovative as you think.
Also that Chinese guy who was actually a butterfly that dreamed to be a human philosopher.
too many gay shenanigans!
>mfw Black Sabbath starts playing at the end of episode 5
The music in this show feels so fricked
>grandpas favorite music the show
I have 1899, SAS rogue heroes, and devils hour ready to start. Which one should I marathon thirst?
watched this today. absolute waste of time if it werent for the eerie sound and atmosphere. otherwise mid
>see a show by the Dark creators
>naturally watch it in German
>apparently the original is English with lots of different languages mashed together
Did I frick up?
Yeah you did.
I wish there was an option for subtitles that only translate the lines not in English or German though.
Just finished Dark yesterday, it's it definitely my favourite "Netflix original" show. I was genuinely sad to see Jonas, Martha, and all their descendants disintegrate from existence. In a way it almost felt like a German equivalent to 100 Years of Solitude (to the point that there's too many similarities to be just coincidence)
How does this compare? I don’t expect it to be as good as the first season of Dark (and I already got part of it spoiled), but is the general tone there or does it feel like Dark was a fluke?
As a Dark fan 1899 was definitely not up there. 1899 is very ambitious and the higher budget definitely makes for a much better visual experience - but they are juggling too many balls this time and didn't create compelling characters and also not a coherent whole thing. However, they still might make a great full series out of this. I just hope they planned all of this ahead but apparently the pitch was a bit more rushed this time.
tl;dr it's an okay first season but by no means amazing or truly original
Don't listen to disappointed naysayers. If you don't go in expecting the exact same thing as Dark, or a story that is as conclusive after one season as Dark was after three, it IS in fact right up there.
I love Dark after S1, couldn't wait for the next season to air. 1899 is okay at best. Lazy writing. Lots of "ohhhh look at this mysterious thing, isn't it mysterious???? hmmm????" that proved to be ultimately meaningless. Feels like it was all filler to make it last 8 episodes. After the "mystery" of the characters are revealed, there's nothing interesting about them. Plus all the usual goyslop crap like the women all being girlbosses, the BBC cucking, and the homosex.
>Lazy writing. Lots of "ohhhh look at this mysterious thing, isn't it mysterious???? hmmm????" that proved to be ultimately meaningless.
Maybe you should wait for the series to finish?
Lots of things in Dark were "ultimately" meaningless before it had been finished. Some things, like the black goo, still are nothing but a nice visual.
>all being girlbosses
There's literally just Virginia being feminist. None of the other female characters are "girl bosses", you fricking /misc/-rotten brainlet.
>the BBC cucking
Still not a thing, no matter how much you insist on it.
Maura, Tove, Tove's mother, Clemence had her little speech about muh male oppression before putting on trousers. Only exception was the submissive chink prostitute.
BBC and French girl didn't have sex but they formed a close bond and it was obviously played as a budding love triangle. Cucking isn't only about literal sex you HRT addled moron.
>Maura
Literally an overly emotional clingy mother.
>Tove
Gets bullied around by others, particularly her mother.
>Tove's mother
A religious nut. Dominant personality though, so if you want to count that, sure. Certainly not a "strong feminist" though.
>Clemence had her little speech about muh male oppression
It wasn't about MALE oppression, but I see why someone with limited capacity to understand historical context would think so.
>Cucking isn't only about literal sex you HRT addled moron.
Then what is it about? About talking to each other? Because that's all they ever do.
Shut the frick up leftist. have a nice day. Nobody is interest in your circular arguments, we know what we watched.
>Maura
Proud independence woman bossing the captain around
>Tove
Leads the mutiny, always telling people to frick off
>Tove's mother
Religious leader, leads vigilante group
>Clemence
"Skirts were invented by men to be tools of oppression"
>Cucking
They do way more than just talk, gaylord. Typical troony always trying to gaslight everyone.
Maura
>mentally completely unhinged
Tove
>broken by being fricked once
Danish mom
>literal religious schizo hearing voices
Clemence
>sexually frustrated
Ling Yi
>moronic working class peasant
the green dress brothel mother
>capitalist and uptight prick
All the women are unlikable and portrayed negatively as frick
Kek you cannot be serious, none of those are portrayed even slightly negatively except for the danish mom and Virginia. Tove was completely justified and Ling Yi felt guilty for accidentally killing someone, big fricking deal.
You can literally feel the /misc/ seeping through this post.
>I was genuinely sad to see Jonas, Martha, and all their descendants disintegrate from existence
People absolutely have soured on Dark due to the final season and how that colored the whole series. The ending recontexualized the whole story to be about antinatalism. The heroes, Jonas and his hoe, "save the world" by choosing to never exist, by ending themselves and their future, in order to, "right the wrong of their existence and what their existence causes" this is quite literally antinatalism, this is quite literally a story about a young white man and a young white woman deciding it would be better off for them not to exist. It is propaganda of the highest order, hidden behind the alluring German language and aesthetics of the superior Aryan race. So obviously many midwits take the series as being based, while lowbrow types automatically intuit that the show is bad due to it being depressing and bleak, while high row types watched to the end and only then understood how subversive it was
No one will remember Dark a decade from now due to how grotesque its ending was, and also, 1899 will ensure that even Dark fans no longer care about the show runners, as without the allure of a German setting and a homogeneous cast, people will see how shitty their work really is. They will be writing dialogue in English, and playing with characters from all over the world, they will reveal themselves as pro-open borders globalist filth. I sympathize with those who were bamboozled by these charlatans. But at the end of the day you really ought to know better when it comes to Netflix.
>It is propaganda of the highest order
Your brain on /misc/ everyone.
It's astonishing how one black actor in 1899 has triggered /misc/tards to the point where they made a braindead copypasta about Dark.
>can't argue with any of the points
Proving the post's validity, tbh.
You don't argue with copypasta all over again, that's been completely refuted already.
You just mention that it's copypasta and that's enough to out you as the troll you are.
You should have a copypasta to refute the copypasta, but it was never refuted, so you don't have it.
>You should have a copypasta to refute the copypasta
You don't use spam to refute spam. That kind of thing ruins threads.
Being a /misc/tard should be considered a mental illness at this point.
There was no reason for that character to be black other than generating titillation at the idea of him being with the French chick. Character would have worked fine as a white French dude.
>There was no reason for that character to be black
There's also no reason for the other characters to be white Europeans. Or for the main girl being female. Or for the boy having dark hair. Sometimes people just happen to be who they are. Not every single detail needs a deep reasoning behind it.
There's no reason he can't be black, so getting upset over it makes you appear like a little racist snowflake.
They made him black to watch the rightoids froth.
I thought it was okay, a few boring parts, fun if you like mysteries and tricky narratives, not near as good as Dark.
Apparently a Brazilian artist is saying that this show is a plagiarism of his comic
https://twitter.com/marycagnin/status/1594190866041610240?s=20&t=F8P9uAlRgbE7FDcMXB0qjA
Well, his comic seems to be plagiarizing Egypt ...
>I even had it translated to english
>you can read it here and draw your own conclusions
it's spanish....
This comic is plagiarizing the witch house microgenre.
It's possible, but these things aren't super original.
I mean, that artist could have tried to trademark pyramids and triangles. Had she somehow managed to get that through, there'd be no need to throw a tantrum now. She also should patent squares and circles while she's at it. You never know when someone might steal that genius idea from you.
Should've also trademarked the revolutionary of having a multi-national crew on (space) ships.
Yeah. I think NASA and ESA stole that idea from her for that piece of performance art they're staging on the ISS.
It's the fact there are many similar details together, plus season 2 being aboard a spaceship. She says she distributed her comic in an european book event in 2017, it's not impossible they'd draw inspiration from some obscure unpopular work.
It's possible but it's also possible it's parallel evolution. Not a lot of stuff matches, really.
>it's not impossible
It's also not impossible that that shitty comic artist herself "plagiarized" one of the many parts of pop culture that do the exact same thing.
As far as I understand it, the story of that comic has nothing at all to do with the story of 1899. It just shares geometrical shapes and possibly one setting (of many, for 1899).
In 1994, Square Soft released a roleplaying game for Super Famicom (SNES) named Live A Live, where one scenario takes place on a spaceship with an international crew. The player takes the role of a robot named "Cube" who has an attack consisting of spinning triangles.
The fact that all those similarities to that girl's comic come together make it not impossible that she'd draw inspiration from some popular oldschool vidya. I guess they should sue her.
>makes 2001 but with a pyramid instead of a rectangle
>"¡Oh no I haves been stoled! ¡ ¡ Dios mio!!"
>anon shows that a BRAZILIAN had his work stolen
>every reply shits in spanish language
i hate american education so much it's unreal
My main gripe with the entire show was the CONSTANT "talking to someone in a language they don't understand" trope.
I love the idea of a multilingual cast having to work together, but it's fricking absurd how often they go off on a monologue with the other person just fricking staring at them with an open mouth. I enjoyed the French/English understanding parts of what the other were saying, and the Danish/German interactions for the same reasons but every other time it just felt so out of place for these characters to always be talking to others when they know they don't understand, that's not how interactions between two people who speak different languages go. They should have relied on non-verbal communication more so the interactions felt more realistic rather than pure exposition dumps all the time excused with "Oh well the other character couldn't understand them so they just kept babbling".
They should've used more gesticulating.
But also: they already seem to know each other from a higher layer of reality. So that might be a reason why they accepted being babbled at in languages they don't understand.
I'm wondering if they just manipulated people's brains so they only could talk in certain languages.
>They should've used more gesticulating.
Definitely, and it wouldn't even look odd or out of place to have the actors over-do certain actions because that's exactly how it looks when you're trying to get a point across to someone who doesn't understand you.
>It's just a way to give voice to inner monologue.
Yeah, that's the main reason I dislike the way they handled it. I don't like spoken/thought monologues as a method of exposition and this is just another reframed method of doing so that somehow feels cheaper.
>and this is just another reframed method of doing so that somehow feels cheaper.
Not saying it isn't cheap, but I definitely prefer this being done between people who don't understand each other. It seems more organic for strangers to open up about stuff if the other person doesn't understand most of what your saying anyway
>if the other person doesn't understand most of what your saying anyway
Enter undercover polyglot who understands all of them but doesn't tell anyone, just so they'll tell him all their darkest secrets.
>It seems more organic for strangers to open up about stuff if the other person doesn't understand most of what your saying anyway
Yeah that aspect does seem natural, but it was happening so often that it seeped out from feeling natural and you could instead see how obvious it was that they just wanted to use it as a writing technique to explain backstories/concepts/secrets in the laziest way possible since they kept coming back and relying on it.
>I honestly expect that by the end they would "break" from the simulation
I was expecting this while watching too but unless they change it for season 2 it seems like more misunderstanding going forward.
It's a shame as well since it seems like such a "gimme" way of explaining away how each character can understand eachother whilst retaining the multilingual cast.
Nice trips
> it just felt so out of place for these characters to always be talking to others when they know they don't understand
It's just a way to give voice to inner monologue. The other person isn't supposed to understand it
This. Holy fricking shit THIS. Halfway through the series every time this happened I just had to skip forward, it was so embarrassing and moronic I couldn't bear to watch it through. How did anyone think that made sense? Screenwriters proof-read this shit, right? What the frick.
I honestly expect that by the end they would "break" from the simulation or whatever was going on and become capable to using English like their upper-layer/real world selves did -- but no, it just kept this moronic trope till the very bitter fricking end.
Only one broke from the simulation so far.
Sorry, I meant to write expected*, as in, I expected that to happen during the duration of the first season. I imagine they will all escape next season, but still: way too much time was spent developing characters that were obviously part of a façade. I couldn't give a single frick about any of the deaths or conflict, since it became clear very early on something was up with their reality anyway
True. Although I kept wondering if the shallow backstories are just a representation of something that happened in a higher layer of reality. The writers seem to love this style of parallelisms. "We are not free in what we want" just as a different flavor this time.
>backstories are just a representation of something that happened in a higher layer of reality
I can only HOPE that's what's going to happen, since that's the only possible way to redeem all of those exposition scenes. Something like Lucien and Jerome having actually been two combatants in some sort of apocalyptic European war (which eventually resulted in their spaceship having to flee Earth to a different planet) and that being abstracted during the layer of the simulation we saw as some foreign legion deployment in Africa, etc.
Still though, far too much weight was placed on the period piece aspects instead of building the characters in more general ways that would've allowed for a deeper exploration once they're presented in contexts outside the simulation. Oh whatever, who fricking knows what's going to happen. It's Netflix.
>It's Netflix
Odar and Friese were given absolute freedom by Netflix though. Blame them and not Netflix.
Bullshit. They say this about every single goddamn show that's inevitably produced by executives, they would never publicly state "we've restricted creative freedom in order to ensure alignment with our corporate values and financial bottom line".
That said though, the creators already went on record saying this series was made to attack Brexit and European nationalism, so maybe you're right, it was doomed to be leftoid garbage from day 0.
There are "people" in this thread defending this show with
>It will get good in next season!
Literally no one has said that, frogposting moron.
You trannies are insufferable.
Telling people not to judge a single season of something as if it was already the completed work is not saying "it'll get better", it's saying "it'll get more complete".
You /misc/shitters are literally illiterate.
>>It will get good in next season!
the big reveal should have been the mid-season finale. we got not enough info about the spaceship reality and how these people are connected to the backstories they have as the passengers of the boat. overall a total mess of a tv-show. season 1 and season 2 storyline could have been told in 8 episodes. instead we get very a repetitive, circular storyline. each time maura tried to get the boy to speak I cringed. how many times do I have to watch the same scene over and over again?
They're trying to milk the series for as many seasons as possible by banking on the writers' abilities to actually write a cohesive story that won't piss off the fans at the end. I'm guessing a lot of money is being injected into this crap.
As with Dark they have pre-planned the story. They said they didn't want to be Lost. Which is also why they constantly riff off of that series.
I'm sure they have it mostly written down and planned, what pisses me off is just how much it drags on with unnecessary scenes that had already been done a trillion times before.
>unnecessary scenes that had already been done a trillion times before
Which ones?
>Which ones?
opening hatch. look down the hatch. climb down the stairs. crawl around.
opening doors. running down the hallways. trying to get "the boy" to speak. revisiting the memory area over and over again. pointless coal room scenes. there is so much that can be cut. especially the annoying boy scenes. where is the boy? lets look for the boy. show how the enter all the rooms individually. show how they enter and leave the rooms. filler after filler scenes.
them looking and opening the envelopes. opening and closing of cupboards. all so boring and pointless. I watched the whole thing on one day and this really does not help with all these boring pointless things shown over and over again.
>opening hatch. look down the hatch. climb down the stairs. crawl around.
Those are connecting shots. They aren't supposed to move the plot forward, they're there to provide visual continuity to a character's actions. If you'd just cut from a character finding a hatch to crawling out of a tunnel, even if you already know that hatches lead to tunnels from before, it'll be a jarring experience to just cut out the middle. Preserving the continuity means you don't get a feeling of the scene jumping around. Any competent director will use such shots, and ideally add a bit of background detail and symbolism to them like it happened here.
scenes that had already been done a trillion times before
the whole end scenes where the once again run down the hallways and see how all those hallways get blocked by the virus. the those doors open and they just stand they and stare. we need to watch the staring and hesitating. boring shit. just run and dont show them waiting. I dont watch the show to for the heroes of the show do everything in slow motion.
>They're trying to milk the series for as many seasons as possible
They've already said they're doing a limited run.
That's even worse. If they have to wrap-up this clusterfrick with a satisfying resolution in just another season then all hope is already lost.
>If they have to wrap-up this clusterfrick with a satisfying resolution in just another season
In two, actually. And they won't need to wrap anything up because they're already done so. The whole outline is already written. They did the same for Dark. That's how they work.
>four elements
>only three seasons
This hurts my OCD.
Well, three is what people assume they'll do because they did three for Dark and structured it remotely like a three act play.
There are no four act plays (at least not in mainstream literature), but maybe they'll break the mold? Thing is, all we know is that they already have the whole thing written down and won't change any of the broader strokes.
We have
>Eyk: fire
>Maura: air
>Ling Yi: water
>Black person: earth
It would be very weird to make conscious use of the elements and then not go full throttle. Classic plays having three acts is a weak argument with series containing many smaller pieces. They can do whatever they want with the overarching structure.
why is maura : air?
Mountain tops, wind rushing all the time filling her head with air to flush out the hurty memories
I wish it had a bit more originality.
But I also enjoy picking apart the constituents that make up the show. There's lots of stuff in there. From the top of my head
>Matrix
>Inception
>Westworld
>Lost
>Mulholland Drive
>Hellraiser
>Dollhouse
>Werewolves/Among Us
>2001
>three dozen other sci-fi movies and at least five episodes of Black Mirror
The guy emerging from the black goo made me think of Beyond the Black Rainbow
>Beyond the Black Rainbow
Looks kino. I really should watch more silly sci-fi flicks.
>S1 they're fancy Europeans
>S2 they're refugees with shaved hair
>S3 they're hairless aliens
>S4 they're revealed to be actually Lovecraftian abominations in the highest level of reality
>as mediocre
Seems like it's a matter of taste then. Yours is trash.
I stopped watching, zero black trans girls, just all boring gay guys.
Ángel and Krester were cute together though
>Ángel and Krester
>cute together
If you're into borderline abusive power dynamics maybe.
If Krester was a girl that kind of behaviour from Ángel would have universally been labeled coercion, harassment and generally creepy.
I think what pissed me off the most was all the fake backstories (which were like, the majority of the scenes) were made null and void by the ending
>were made null and void by the ending
I mean there's literally a 100% chance that everyone is going to escape the simulation on the ship like the woman did. As others have said it's likely that the "flashbacks" they were having were just reframed memories of their real experiences and once they escape the simulation we'll start seeing how their "memories" in the simulation they were experiencing correlate to things they've actually gone through in real life before they ended up on the ship.
>see show
>wow I love boat Kino
>about to start ep 1
>read this thread
AAAANNNNNND DROPPED
I was hoping for The Terror or North Water levels of kino but I guess its only normie shit.
You're not making yourself look any more intelligent, mate.
Show is good. It's getting negatively astroturfed here by Disney as part of their ongoing "try to avoid being the least successful streamer by preventing positive word of mouth for other services instead of just by making good shows" strategy.
Just like time-travel wasn't original and Dark was just Jante's version of it with more emphasis on character, this is her version of the Matrix and does the same. it's not tricking anyone.
people who dislike something boring and arty don't watch 10 episodes of it and then come complain here, it's super fricking obvious guys.
>Passengers: 1423
>Crew: 550
What does that imply?
1423 + 550 = 1973
Major events in 1973:
>Watergate
>first international oil crisis
>Jom-Kipur war
>military coup in Chile
>Greece abolishes monarchy
>Sydney Opera House is opened
>assassination of Luis Carrero Blanco
>launch of the Mars 5 space probe
Take your pick.
I was more thinking along the lines of what separates crew and passengers. My initial thought was the crew being more in control of the simulation while the passengers are being fed loops so everyone doesn't forget what it's like being human while they travel through space in search of a new planet.
Well, yeah, some people must be awake and take care of things, I assume. That'd be the crew, or parts of it.
lmao almost done with the 1st episode and I must say this shit is hilarious
>woman barging into the captains cabin
>interrogates him
>later she tells him, the fricking captain, that she's going with them
>she somehow orders the captain around
>lmao
>le noble and brave Black
>gives one of the crew members attitude
>somehow doesn't get thrown off the fricking boat for that
>le weak white men are le scared
>brave Black goes in their place
>etc.
this is beyond clownhood my dudes, idk how anyone can take this and talk about it in a serious manner. also
>gay homosexuals everywhere
Black folk are notoriously afraid of going in spooky places, that Black person would've rather jump than go on the fricking creepy looking ship. every Black person will tell you this.
what a miserable show, gxarrcomplete waste of time.
Please refer to:
>can't argue with them
>better call them crazy
lmaoing at your life troon
>can't argue with them
Yes. It's impossible to argue with them because they will just repeat their script with the usual buzzwords over and over again if you try.
The gay homosexualry only gets worse. The showrunners are super conservative when showing heterosexual affection but show homosexuals jerking each other off without a single issue.
Meanwhile Dark literally starts with benis in bagina
They do show straight sex, moreso. But I agree it is too much, THREE gays on a boat? Two wasn't enough???
>completely forgets the gays were portrayed as driven just by their drives for sex and literally committing murder to cover their traces
That's the Mediterranean ones. Krester is just some submissive b***h.
>Krester is just some submissive b***h.
oh really? and what did that angry scandi man say about krester taking his sons innocence? mh?
>t krester taking his sons innocence?
Kek. Have you seen Krester and how he acts?
Bet'cha it was the other way around and that moron just was in denial of his son being gay.
I'm trying to figure out if Angel has the best gaydar or if it's some simulation shit
>if Angel has the best gaydar
You think he cared whether Krester was gay or not? He's the kind of guy who just takes what he wants. And if the other guy doesn't like getting his ass fricked, why should he care?
I assumed Angel raped the priest and his Portuguese twink killed the priest to keep him from reporting Angel to the authorities. Just homosex things.
>They do show straight sex
Oh yeah, who could forget:
> white man tries to please wife, fails. white man bad!!
> white man brutally rapes innocent girl. white man bad!!
So other than being blackity black, what was Jeromes fricking plan? Fricking with Lucien with the medal and then what?killing him after he stews in his shit for a bit?A bit of cucky wucky?(which of course almost happened without even trying, thanks writers)
Wanted revenge for all the shit that happened to him but then everything goes to shit plus he learns that Lucien is going to die anyway and realises his priorities lie elsewhere in the situation they find themselves in.
Don't pretend you didn't see how they would have him having close physical contact with Lucien's wife at every chance. That's basically the point of that character, just Americans injecting their fetishes into every single work of fiction they can get their hands on.
Anybody got any spoilers? I’m looking for spoilers.
It's all a simulation running in a spaceship in the year 2099. The kid is the son of the protagonist redhead. Who are these people and what are they doing in said simulation? Guess you'll have to watch the upcoming 10 seasons to find out!
Or don't. Don't watch this shit. I tried recalling some meaningful plot points as spoilers but only 10% of what happened during the first season matters overall.
>"wholesome"
>Black person constantly chimps out and beats up people
Shut the frick up dishonest leftoid, I told you to go have a nice day already.
>leftoid
You're the one who considers the aggressive black guy "wholesome", not him.
>wholesome
The only wholesome characters are Olek and Ling Yi. Everyone else either has some serious mental problems or is in someway an unpleasant person.
They're all tainted. Ling Yi accidentally killed her friend because of greed and Olek's backstory has only been hinted at, he definitely drowned someone in that oil. Ironically, Jerome is the only actual dindu(so far, who knows what he did to escape to get on the boat.)
>Ling Yi accidentally killed her friend because of greed and Olek's backstory has only been hinted at, he definitely drowned someone in that oil.
Sure, but who they are matters more than what they did. Everyone makes errors.
>Jerome is the only actual dindu
Actually, he's the only one we see acting with clear malicious intent outside of any memories.
And even inside the memory, you can argue that it was him who betrayed his friend, not the other way around. Deserting from a war is just self-preservation, trying to keep your friend in a war because you'd rather get killed than risk being caught and labeled a deserter is pretty selfish.
>trying to keep your friend in a war because you'd rather get killed than risk being caught and labeled a deserter is pretty selfish.
This is where I call bullshit. Because if it was the white guy insisting that backup is on the way and they should stay honorable rather than turn tail and run everyone would be calling the White guy a heroic, noble and righteous character while the black dude is a cowardly, weak minded and unfaithful shitbag.
>Because if it was the white guy insisting that backup is on the way and they should stay honorable rather than turn tail and run everyone would be calling the White guy a heroic, noble and righteous character
No. I'm not one of those nuts who think people should throw their lives away in a war. (Much less for the invading force they were fighting for.)
Every guy in Ukraine right now (on either side) who tries to get out of the country or at least away from the frontline has my sympathy.
>smart
He's portrayed as the dumbest of the main cast by far. Including the religious zealot hearing voices.
He rivals the werewolf-obsessed Irish stokers in intellect.
The only voice of reason is the guy who looks like an older Harry Potter.
No matter how much praise of the black guy you spam, that doesn't make it true.
The only good thing the Black person does is introducing the failed couple to bondage to spice up their sex life a bit.
sneaky how this was all just an elaborate Among Us adaption
>they even used venting
Why the frick did you quote my post about the Dane which has nothing to do with that /misc/tard's spam?
>all posts deleted
kek
Must be sad to have such a predictable posting pattern.