>Initially Amazon asked Jackson to be involved with Rings of Power but sources suggest author J.R.R. Tolkien’s estate was against having Jackson on board. This shouldn’t be surprising as the estate had no involvement with his films and Christopher Tolkien has previously slammed the trilogy in the press as “eviscerating” his father’s books, claiming they turned his novels into action movies for young people that lack “beauty and seriousness.” But the estate is involved with the series – Amazon paid the estate an astounding $250 million for the rights to make the show.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/peter-jackson-amazon-lord-of-the-rings-tv-series-1235193692/
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Jackson:
>“They asked me if I wanted to involved – [writer-producer Fran Walsh] and I – and I said, ‘That’s an impossible question to answer without seeing a script. So they said, ‘As soon as we get the first couple scripts, we’ll send them to you.’ And the scripts never showed up. That’s the last thing I heard, which is fine. No complaints at all.”
>“I’ll be watching it. I’m not the sort of guy who wishes ill will. Filmmaking is hard enough. If somebody makes a good film or TV show, it’s something to celebrate. The one thing I am looking forward to is actually seeing it as a perfectly neutral viewer.”
Amazon's Response:
>"In pursuing the rights for our show, we were obligated to keep the series distinct and separate from the films. We have the utmost respect for Peter Jackson and The Lord of The Rings films and are thrilled that he is looking forward to the watching The Rings of Power.”
It's hard to be on Peter Jackson's side here with those atrocious Hobbit movies. He just lucked out with the Lord of the Rings saga, being in the right place and right time. They have NOT aged well.
>They have NOT aged well
lol wut besides the special effects the lotr films are great.
>aged well
they sucked massive ass from the get go
He got handed a pile of shit and was told to make a sandwich.
You don't make the LOTR trilogy out of luck. It was a passion project that was made out of love and seven years of investment from everyone involved.
The Hobbit was a cash grab he wasn't interested in and only joined after Del Toro dropped out and they brought a dump truck full of money to his door. He did it purely for the money and it shows.
He shouldn't have done it for the money, he should have done it so the movies would be good. For a while, he tried and mostly succeeded. People hate on the first movie for being silly and childish, but The Hobbit was a book for kids. An Unexpected Journey immediately disarms and alerts the audience to what they're about to see, with the comic stuff in the Shire meeting and what amounts to a musical number. A second and far more ridiculous one of these occurs in the goblin cave. Apart from adding a bunch of stupid shit that wasn't necessary and fricking up the warg scene, it was a basically fun bit of fluff that was different enough from LotR to avoid pissing all over the trilogy's reputation.
Then the second movie comes out, musical numbers are gone, a bunch of ridiculous shit happens in Mirkwood that isn't compatible with the LotR timeline, and we have this utterly moronic action sequence on the river during what should have been a magical scene with the barrels, Tolkien's serene illustration of which have graced the book's cover for most of its history. Fine. Not good, not awful, but most importantly it doesn't go with the first movie, at all.
But then Battle of the Five Armies comes out, and it's a fricking bloodbath, with gore flying everywhere, literally 90 minutes of nonstop violence and death, including needlessly cruel death scenes for some of the most likable characters. Obviously no musical numbers. No childhood magic to speak of. As someone who had just read through The Hobbit with his kid and had already shown him the first film, it hurt to watch this. Probably the most depressing movie I've seen since Alien Resurrection.
All of this happened because Jackson didn't know what he wanted, and then when he found it but the studio balked he pussied out.
Loved the first Hobbit movie for it comfyness. I only read Hobbit in the comic book (sort of) form when I was a kid.
Went to IMAX for the second movie. The third I wastched at some discount screening where we were the only people in the theater. The staff litteraly forgot about us
>They have NOT aged well.
they did age well, just some very specific scenes have some "issues"
??? what the frick are you on contrarian moron. LOTR triology is literally the cultural peak of western civilization
Blaming Jackson for the Hobbit trilogy is moronic. The Hobbit movies were bad almost entirely because of corporate meddling. Making two movies from the Hobbit would have been hard, but three? Impossible. No matter who was directing, the movies were going to be almost all filler because there's only barely enough material to support one full length film in the hobbit, its a very short story. The cartoon covers everything and its 78 minutes.
>PETER, DIRECT THE HOBBIT OR WE RAPE IT
>PETER, WE WANT TWO MOVIES
>FRICK IT, MAKE IT THREE
>PETER, WE WANT A FEMALE ELF FOR THE DEMOGRAPHICS
>PEEETER, WE KNOW YOU PROMISED THE ACTRESS SHE WOULDN'T BE A LOVE INTEREST BUT FRICK YOU! MAKE LEGOLAS AND A HOT DWARF COMPETE FOR HER IMMORTAL PUSSY
>PETER, FRICK YOUUUUUU
del taco doesn't get enough shit for leaving
The Hobbit was good
>epic movies bad
>niggolas elves good
Yikes.
>ask Jackson to sign onto the series
>he asks to see the script
>don't hand over the scripts to the guy who wrote the Hobbit Trilogy
Holy shit just how bad is this show going to be?
The reason he never got the scripts is because the Tolkien Estate got wind that the execs had been in contact with him and they told Amazon they didn't want Jackson involved, in any capacity.
As per the contract, the Tolkien Estate have reserved the right to veto practically anything
>As per the contract, the Tolkien Estate have reserved the right to veto practically anything
So what you are saying is that I can hold them responsible for not vetoing the Black folks?
Everything you see onscreen would have been approved by them one way or another. They even read the scripts
Yes you can, won't go anywhere though. Black folk are a protected species and a valued weapon for the Chosen Tribe.
Yep. The Tolkein Estate is woke af no cap fr fr.
This is why Cinemaphile peeps need to not be sad about never having children. This world is going into Apocalypse. It is a blessing to have no children. If you have descendants, they will either be tortured by Clown World or will become part of it.
>If you have descendants, they will either be tortured by Clown World or will become part of it.
nah it will be ok I am Russian
I doubt that's actually true. They might have the power technically, but I have no doubt that their contract with Amazon is, in practice, just using their name as a marketing tool in exchange for more money than they can ever use.
>I doubt that's actually true
It is true, they appointed several members of staff on the show, the translator for the Tolkien languages for example. This was talked about recently when the dialect coach on the show gave an interview. The production was not allowed to alter even a single word of the the Quenya/Sindarin/Khuzdul the Estates people translated for them unless it went back to them first
They also had final say regarding the showrunners, Amazon were not allowed to decide their own. Only out forward candidates
As I said, I have no doubt that in practice that's all marketing fluff. They're paid to care about some details like that, that don't get in the way of agenda-pushing, and lend an air of legitimacy to the project. In practice, they'd never actually veto anything that Amazon would specifically want.
>The one thing I am looking forward to is actually seeing it as a perfectly neutral viewer.”
the one position that makes online discussion impossible.
They're not neutral about the show's exterior politics in their marketing and interviews either.
>exterior politics
Meds
are you rarted?
I know. I was ironically acknowledging the contentiousness of online discussion, you stupid fricking shill prostitute c**ts.
see? like that.
He means having a creative hand in something changes how you'll perceive it.
>>"In pursuing the rights for our show, we were obligated to keep the series distinct and separate from the films.
Yet they clearly aped the aesthetics of the trilogy
and it looks even more centered around action than LOTR was. lol
>But the estate is involved with the series – Amazon paid the estate an astounding $250 million for the rights to make the show
sounds like jackson would be cool with the ~~*tolkien estate*~~ if he cut them a check
idk i'm listening to an audio book of LOTR right now and the dialogue in the movie is already better than the book
moron learn to read
Based. Me too
Which one? Im listening to the one with all the music and sound effects
oh look, another bot thread that no one will read
Too many red flags with this fanfic
this,
the more that comes out the more of a cluster frick it's shaping up to be. I'm willing to bet Amazon fabricates "the racist trolls threatening actors" narrative just to distract from the actual show. anything to distract. it'll probably happen in a couple weeks, maybe even days before it premieres.
Peter Jackson made 3 increasingly bad fanfic films too but no one cares because they didn't have black people in them.
Precisely, we don't like it when white ethnicities are undermined and demoralized through media.
why would that demoralize you
They take what is essentially white inspired folklore and tales; then proceed to insert non-whites where they don't belong.
This creates a false image of racial equality which in turn causes people of white ethnicities to let their guard down which makes it easier to undermine.
The goal is mass immigration and then dispossession. The game plan is very similar to what Zionists did to Palestine:
>Start moving people to a place, claiming refugee status
>Use that small number of people as a springboard, encourage chain migration via family reunification
>When people start to object cry racism to silence them
>When you reach a critical mass of people concoct some fake history of how actually, YOU are the original people and THEY are the occupiers
>Use wars to "reclaim" territory
>And when you finally have total control, you gaslight everyone into thinking YOU the occupier are the victim and everyone who criticizes you is literally Satan
This is not colonialism. Colonists don't pretend they are the natives.
You're right, they're not colonists, they're parasites.
The goal, with both Zionism and the current black washing of uniquely European works is to convince people of a false history.
I think it's working, I've never seen this level of white-guilt.
Its not guilt white people in the us literally hate themselves. In Canada too. Ive met dozens of white women that hate seeing whites on screen, hate majority white towns, usually small towns. White women fricking hate white people.
Women are quite literally NPCs who float int the direction the wind is blowing. You can fight it in your own small way. Firstly pirate EVERYTHING. Do not give them a cent of your money.
They are trying to convince people that the original Britons were Blacks, therefore everyone from Nigeria should move to London. This is what their subversion looks like.
even if the cheddar c**t was as black as pitch it wouldnt matter because his peoples genetic legacy was almost entirely wiped out over the course of a couple hundred years with the arrival of peoples from the east
You're falling into their trap. "You are just invader too". They use this to justify their own invasion.
why wouldn’t it
the most powerful people on earth are using all mainstream forms of communication to slander me
The Hobbit did actually have blacks.
>got paid $250 millions to approve turd tv show
it's called a bribe and the tolkien estate is happy to accept
I hate the woke cancer but I would have accepted too. The only question is why are studios pouring so much money on subversive dogshit movies that nobody wants to watch.
>The only question is why are studios pouring so much money on subversive dogshit movies that nobody wants to watch.
push culture not profit
Amazon profits more in the long run from debasing the western canon and turning people further into demoralised consumerist slugs with no cultural framework to hold onto and take hope from. A mere TV show profits is pittance by comparison to the potential of the social engineering that their media arm can accomplish. 'Go woke go broke' is not correct, going woke and losing short term profits is an investment toward a greater payout down the line.
Yes. What people don't realize is that all of the media corps act in unison because they are all beholden to the mighty dollar aka The Fed. They will shove this shit down everyone's throat and slowly erase titles from their platforms until they have reached an equilibrium where no offending titles are left and no one remembers the before times. You will eat your slop and enjoy it, Chud. They love that you think woke will eventually fail and don't actually put any effort into fighting it. You disarm yourself with complacency. Conditioning works, unfortunately.
Pic related.
The left got cucked by Capital.
Woe to the vanquished.
Sure. Capitalism is currently fricking everyone sideways but neither capitalism nor communism raised cathedrals. This is a false dichotomy that was created in the 19th century to ensure that a materialist economic regime would be unrivaled. I.e they are both essentially Hebraic and both are anti-human.
well now i’m sad and depressed and want to kill israelites again
>nobody wants to watch
because morons do watch it, like they watched The Goys
Based. Frick action movies. Christopher Tolkien was right.
Christopher Tolkien died before this project was announced. He's right, too. I like the films for what they are and I think they're extremely entertaining but they do not do the books justice.
I don't think a film series even can nail LotR down. Tolkien said a goal of his was to write as longass a book as possible that stayed entertaining the whole time, can't even capture that in a 20 hour tv project
Yeah, I really don't feel like you can 100% faithfully capture Tolkien on screen at all.
i believe he was still alive when the rights were sold to Amazon.
Christopher was still the head of the Tolkien Estate when the deal was made
No he'd had it forcibly removed from him, he should have arranged it so someone who gave a shit was in control instead of just assuming he'd live forever
I guess you are correct but I imagine if he would have known they were going to disrespect the material as they appear to be then he probably wouldn't have agreed.
Even worse. They started the first project under his controll, dragged It out until he died, and once he died they scrapped everything so they could start from zero with full creative "liberty".
Both him and you are massive homosexuals. The movies are unironically good.
Jackson campaigned for the release of the Memphis Three, he should have never directed LOTR.
This, the fat frick saved a child killer from the electric chair.
They probably didn't want to pay any more money to slush funds to free any more gay wizard child murderers.
This is on an express train to sequel trilogy levels of toiletry
what the frick I can even see the wire
Why run up the sword when she would get more lift jumping from his shoulder?
What in the flying frick
For frick's sake this shit is atrocious
I can already smell twittergays saying how much this is like the original movies holy frick I hate this fricking shit I hope everyone involved fricking dies
You homosexuals fall for their games every time. Dont you ever wonder why these clips never get taken down?
Some new thing '''leaks''' online, then the usual people sperg about it for a few days for free marketing until they burn themselves out
Then the actual unedited clip gets released a week later in HD and everybody goes 'oh actually it looks much better than that shitty clipped to frick 240p phone recording that ragetuber was crying about, maybe they are just over reacting after all?'
An unedited version of this fight will be released next week. You can screencap this post.
I always wanted to see a Bollywood take on Tolkien's work
This is literally a warrior ability from Dragon's Dogma
Ok, I never actually saw the scene, only heard about it and thought it would be passable if it happened incredibly fast in the middle of battle, but this is so badly scripted it ended up hilarious instead.
THE WIND IS PUSHING MEEEE
>"beauty and seriousness.”
Clearly LOTR was always meant to have wire-fu and anime poses.
But legolas grinding on the elephant Tony hawk style was totally Kino tho right bros
whataboutism is all you have? holy shit lmfao
they don’t pay you guys much huh
Amazon's LOTR is just going to be that scene stretched out to 60 minutes.
Frick that ive never read those homosexual books the movies are goated mc zooter
Somebody who has seen the entire season of ROP just leaked a load of info on Leddit, they probably worked on one of the dubs
The said the show is way better than The Hobbit movies and almost as good as the LOTR trilogy
Obvious shill.
>shilling with leaks
>what is a controlled leak
Wow sounds very real and most certainly not paid viral marketing. Thanks Bezos!
Yeah and just like all those '''viral marketers''' that leaked all the details from the last season of GoT, who said that fans would hate it.
ha ha, yeah cool man! thanks! amazon pay me to shill these people are terrible at their jobs im saging your thread btw your wasting your time on me
People cared about GoT and were absurdly invested in ut after a decade.
On the other hand for this no one, tolkien fan or normie, cares about some crap looking fake fiction and its leaks. No one ever responds to your posts in these threads
>fake fiction
I see we have hit the sub 80iq Hispanic hours, kek
Ok. Now I’m truly not watching it.
I will not even pirate your shit
the wizards came in the third age wtf are these morons doing
Blue wizards did get sent in the 2nd age in a later version, specifically to try and help the people of Harad/Rhun/Khand who were rebelling against Sauron
I doubt they will actually have that meteor guy be Gandalf though, probably just wanted some cliff hanger bait for s2
>I doubt they will actually have that meteor guy be Gandalf though
Their audience is moronic reaction face channels who only care about characters they recognize from the movies hence why Galadriel and Elrond are the protags
Isn't the wizards supposed to come on a boat from Valinor? Cirdan gives Gandalf his ring when he arrives at the havens, making Saruman eternally seethe.
In most versions all five arrive in the third age and the two blue wizards go east and never heard of again.
In later versions Tolkien changed it so that the two blue wizards arrive thousands of years earlier and are sent by the Valar specifically to try and counter Sauron in the east, where they have partial success. They could have been sent around the same time as Glorfindel.
The latter is probably what the show will go with, it also tends to be the more popular version too
Blue wizards are going to be black women
>trusting shill
>reddit
>trust any of these clown fricks and their opinion
go back
have a nice day homosexual
>i've seen it for work
He even admit he's a paid shill
The plot synopsis of the last seasons of Game of Thrones leaked via the people dubbing the series into other languages. In fact that's how alot of these things leak
I don't give a shit.
>posting reddit screen caps as a last ditch effort to shill a tv show
Truly pathetic and low effort.
Where do you think all the highly accurate GoT leaks originated from?
Sorry your special secret club always seems to get overlooked in favour of leddit bro
These are the same people who say The Witcher is a good series. They can go frick themselves for contributing to the state of modern tv shows.
The first hobbit was good though
>the show is way better than The Hobbit movies
Truly an achievement
Please, no need to sell any further... I already wasn't gonna watch it.
>“I’ll be watching it. I’m not the sort of guy who wishes ill will.
I doubt he says this if he doesn't know that it's in bad shape
I'm not going to watch Amazon's fan fiction.
Your move, NFTkeks
umm, do you have permission to post this photograph?
No.
You're going to get sued by the Tolkien Society, anon.
Then I'll make a knockoff NFT using the exact same image and there's nothing they can do to stop me.
Professor Tolkien, you're getting too close!
Go ahead, try and stop me.
Methinks they doth protest too much.
>Pardoning Saruman?: The Queer in Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings
I'm ready to leave this place.
They got right to work after Christopher died
Liberals are cancer.
I feel an intense, almost primordial disgust with these fricking people. Like hate down to the fabric of my dna
These are the people creaming themselves over this trash heap of a show
This is fake btw
https://www.tolkiensociety.org/events/tolkien-society-summer-seminar/
don't lie, anon
it doesn't affect you anyway so why do you care?
still enough that you feel the need to lie about it
homosexual
kys
>It's not real
>It is real but it doesn't affect you so don't complain about it <-- YOU ARE HERE
>It is real and it's A Good Thing
>It's A Good Thing and you deserve it
I genuinely prefer the Soviet class conflict interpretations over this abomination. Jesus Christ have mercy.
"woke" has pretty much lost all meaning now, but this is a textbook definition of it. None of the shit in any of those seminars matters even the slightest bit. It's posturing and virtue signalling designed to make those who perform and attend them feel good about themselves, with no care or respect for the text they are ostensibly covering. I hate these useless c**ts so much.
>None of the shit in any of those seminars matters even the slightest bit
it matters in destroying everything good and making it gay instead
>cishetero amatonormativity
>everything you love will be hollowed out and subverted
does it matter if humanity survives anymore?
The 2022 one doesn't look that bad, well... most of it:
https://www.tolkiensociety.org/events/oxonmoot-2022/
>Robin Reid – J. R. R. Tolkien, Culture Warrior: The Alt-Right Religious Crusade’s appropriation of “Tolkien”
Those diversity talks was just because they did a day dedicated to it. It's not like that is the only thing they talk about, just one topic of many
>A work to represent my lands, the myths, and the celtic people, not of Italty and beyond.
AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE homieZ WASSUNT AINT BE IN LORD OF DA RANGZ AFTERALL? DAS RAYCISSIM!
These people should all be killed
>fanfiction
>no anal, gender switching, mpreg, or other fun stuff
Literally what is the point?
amazon probably paid them a shitload for exclusive rights
never underestimate some families abilities to sell their deceased relatives out for money
Jackson didn't even call Bakshi, despite aping his movie
What shots did he ape?
There are loads
Mostly comes down the book describing specific imagery such that it gets interpreted the same way. That scene mentions "hollow" and "root" as the places they hid from the rider.
It should've been on top of a church in broad daylight, you don't get it. LOTR was written in a very vague manner with almost no details and you can interpret every event differently, oh wait. Lmao
In some instance but there are alot of other places where it's clearly inspired by direct frames in the animated movie. There are multiple articles about all the Bakshi/Jackson connections
How the frick else are you supposed to show a guy named after foots putting his feet up for the narrator for a joke
F E E T
All of the scenes I'm seeing are interpreting the same descriptions from the books.
>My dear Bagginses and Boffins, he began again; and my dear Tooks and Brandybucks, and Grubbs, and Chubbs, and Burrowses, and Hornblowers, and Bolgers, Bracegirdles, Goodbodies, Brockhouses and Proudfoots. "ProudFEET!" shouted an elderly hobbit from the back of the pavilion. His name, of course, was Proudfoot, and well merited; his feet were large, exceptionally furry, and both were on the table.
There's also the scene where the Black Riders stab the beds at the inn while the hobbits are safe somewhere else. Jackson referencing the animated movie has been known for years, I don't know why people are playing contrarian now.
even the camera angle is the same when comparing Bakshis and Jacksons "PROUDFEET"
You would be a fool to deny how many adaptations Jackson lifted inspiration from, or "aped" if you want to denigrate him for it.
I just looked that exact passage in the book and you're bullshitting. In it, Frodo is actually separated from the others (who are the ones hinding down in a hollow further away), so he is alone when the rider comes by and he actually hides in a patch of long grass. While it's technically not impossible that both PJ and Bakshi came with the same depiction, with the same framing etc of the scene on their own, I think it's very fricking unlikely. I'm willing to bet my left nut that the John Howe illustration you posted is also posterior to Bakshi's version, and probably based on it.
IIRC, the scene in Fellowship where the Nazgul attack what appears to be the hobbits' beds with swords is in the Bakshi movie, but not in the book.
That's correct, the book only shows the aftermath of Strider taking the hobbits back to their rooms after they've been ransacked by the wraiths, and there's no mention of slashed beds
Well I don't know what came first but that was also basically an Alan Lee illustration
>people are reduced to praising Bakshi to keep the Hobbit hate train going
This is just pathetic. Just say you hate the movies and move on. Don't try to pretend that some shits are better shits than other shits.
what a butthurt homosexual, his cartoon was for decades the only "film" adaptation of lotr, of course there might have been inspiration, doesn't mean that villeneuve should have sucked lynch's dick while filming dune
Can't wait for this Lord of the Rings soap opera.
extremely embarrassing
morfydd is the only charismatic person in this clip
What the ever loving frick is this. Surely this isn't real.
>What the ever loving frick is this
A photoshoot for a online magazine
i dunno what's worse, the Black folk or these bizarrely smug looking elves
like another anon said, she would've been a better Eowyn type character than a Galadriel, she's too mundane and earthy for an elf queen
>she would've been a better Eowyn type character than a Galadriel,
of all the problems that this show is going to have, this is the least significant one
absolutely , but it's funny that the thing they got most right they still managed to get wrong
they need a muh kick-butt warrior-queen galadriel instead of a simple noble lady
Galadriel wasn't a simple noble lady, she had a celestial majesty and mystery that made her intimidating in a way appropriate to an elven queen. she's a lot younger in this of course but they went in the feminist video game action protagonist direction ala
which is way worse than the energy she had in the Jackson movies, and which Morfydd doesn't have at all. Morfydd looks like a pretty peasant girl.
by "legislative process" you mean nothing is off limits for the israelites in your soulless for sale shit hole
>she had a celestial majesty and mystery that made her intimidating in a way appropriate to an elven queen.
obviously but that's beside my point
what's your point
that making her a fighter is the usual hollywood schlock where it's all about kicking ass. tolkien was decidedly NOT about kicking ass. this show is DOA
>fingolfin having a pic rel anime battle with a literal god, permanently wounding him
>not about fighting
that's fine for mythology but not for the adventures he told
Making Galadriel your protagonist is a mistake. Her purpose in the serialized LotR story is to show up to shock and scare you as a 7 foot tall almost alien being with questionable motives.
She should have served the same purpose in this show, as a season finale bang moment with your more human protagonists meeting her at a pivotal moment. Taking the magic out of her and making her look human misses the point so hard just because her name is a memberberry for the lowest common denominator
>Taking the magic out of her
Galadriel's magical abilities mostly come from Nenya, which she won't have until S2 or 3 and even then won't be able to use, except maybe for a brief period until Saurons defeat in s5
I didn't mean her literal spells, just her having more of an aura about her and not being a 5 foot 2 plain girl
>video game action protagonist direction
Maybe but if you are going to do that with any character then Galadriel is the perfect option tbh
Even Jackson was going to have her fight shit in armour during the Hobbit movies
Hackson also wanted Arwen to fight at helm's deep
Must have missed that in the movie he directed
Difference being that Galadriel was described as having a warrior mentality, being a natural leader and actually did engage in physical combat when it was necessary, unlike Arwen.
Was Arwen even referred to as a warrior in the movies? I thought she just says shes a "faster rider" and maybe does the magic flood spell
Peter Jackson changed the second and third movies after people made fun of him online. Originally Arwen played a much bigger role which included her fighting in helm's deep in a dress and if you look online you can see pictures of it
So it was a discarded idea that didn't make it into his actual movies, got it
none of the characters are perfect for that because it's completely antithetical to the spirit of Tolkien's work
>they went in the feminist video game action protagonist
>Morfydd looks like a pretty peasant girl.
They literally turned her into Mary Sue Rey. Plain orhan girl who has magical powers a,nd goes on an adventure on her own because she needs nobody
>Galadriel is an orphan girl with magical powers
What? He father still lives in Valinor and the actress said Galadriel will have no magical abilities until she gets her ring of power, she doesn't even have foresight yet
>mfw
I hate this gay earth so fricking much. Why can't I die already.
>Why can't I die already.
because you're a coward.
I like the early 80s BBC vibe this is giving off.
Is the brown elf actor even a real Black person or just a very dark beaner?
>even a real Black person or just a very dark beaner?
Idk, both maybe
He's from Puerto Rico
The trailer had me believing he was an actual nog, this might aswell be an honorary aryan.
He's triracial (White, Black, Hispanic) Puerto Rican.
that's like 90s soap opera opening
SOULLESS
SOVL
fug
That actor playing the human completely facemogs all of the elves. Who cast this shit?
I was just thinking this.
Galadriel and Gil-Galad don't look like Middle-Earth elves, they look like TES elves: ayyylmaos
And Celebrimbor is too fricking old, he's the oldest looking cast member by looks.
what the frick is this snl skit parody clown show
Show just has nothing to like about it besides vague references to lore that only hardcore fans care about, at least half of which seem to hate the show for its inaccuracies and marketing campaigns
>~~*HBO*~~
>after picrel
literal schlock
why all the elfs look like inbreds?
honestly, this does make me a little nostalgic. Looks like some shitty show I would love in the 90s.
lmao, based dwarf and Celebrimbor, yung Elrond is a cringe tryhard
WE WUZ RANGZ AND SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT
>"Like raindrops on a window, so flow the final days of Numenor in the Rings of Power."
Extremely underated and unchecked The Days of Our Lives pilled.
I hate Black folk so much
Reminded me of the 90s style Game of Thrones intro.
?t=3
this can't be real. holy shit lmao. literally every single new piece of media they release on this turd is worse and more cringe than the last.
fake
this is the real one
That's hilarious.
i didn't notice a difference
what codec do I need to play webms like that one? The video doesn't start playing.
I think it's a bug.
I burst out laughing seeing the Black Dwarf kween doing whatever she's doing
She's singing for her gibs, they've cut out the part where she starts twerking.
frick him
>tolkien estate
copyright was a mistake
yeah it would be better if streaming services could just adapt whatever they want without paying anyone
moron
if you invent something like this you should be able to make illegal for anyone else to profit off it forever
ok we'll have Pizza Hut in the cafeteria every day too
i dont care what ameriturds feed their fat kids but LOTR and calvin and hobbes should be protected from the israelites forever end of story
is this the usual legislative process in whatever joke country you come from? muh feels?
correct
C&H is a israelite comic, also seething about the US day in and day out is what israelites do, it's all they ever do
>C&H is a israelite comic
disgustingly wrong
to the rest of the world the US is israelites, because they rule your culture and your foreign policy. my seethe is for that not for the texan hillbillies.
Only Black folk complain about being unable to steal intellectual property.
Only israelites complain about being unable to continue making money off dead men.
The opposite in fact. Copyright doesn't go far enough. If a writer never wants their work adapted, then they should be able to set up a legal entity that exists in perpetuity to protect their work from vultures.
Jackson may be a homosexual, but the LOTR trilogy is like watching art unfold. He never managed to recreate this with the hobbit, but it will still be better than the slop amazon is trying to push
hobbit wasnt THAT bad
third was shit
but still a lot better than this troony Black person shit
yeah he fricked up The Hobbit that bad
Christopher Tolkien has always sounded like a salty b***h lmao
>"The Estate" is now worse than Jackson
I remember being a little confused watching the movies after having read the books, but they were still good. Then thinking Chris was being kind of pathetic even if not entirely wrong. Then thinking Jackson was pathetic for The Hobbit movies.
But now "the estate" is signing off on that absolute pile of garbage for ESG larper points and pretending it's not far worse than even Jackson's Hobbit.
>But now "the estate" is signing off on that absolute pile of garbage for ESG larper points and pretending it's not far worse than even Jackson's Hobbit.
They're just lying for the $250 million.
dude the Hobbit films are so moronic they almost kill the LOTR movies too. Defending those abominations arent doing your argument favors lmao
the problem is they made a trilogy with less source material than lotr
They aren't abominations, you're just too low IQ to appreciate them
Simon Tolkien always was a complete sellout. I don't know anything about the rest of them. But look at it this way: Being related to Tolkien doesn't magically provide people with taste or any suitability to manage the property. Christopher was that, but he didn't get by just by being Tolkien's son, he put in a lot of time into understanding his father's work (and working with it to an extent). He was the first and greatest LotR fan, whose understanding and respect for the work was and never will be matched. Nobody else can claim that, regardless of lineage.
>I don't know anything about the rest of them
They mostly keep to themselves, you can find some interviews with Simon's brother Adam when Children of Hurin was released.
He is probably more similar to his father with his views on the movies, some of his comments were fairly harsh actually.
Lee is a good illustrator, but, Christ, is he an ugly mofo, quintessentially Bri'ish
Chris was a pedantic moron that cashed on his father's success. His autistic puritanic views on every LOTR related or even inspired media don't change this simple fact. He was less lenient than his sons true, but that's because he feared Hollywood might take away the franchise from him, thus depriving him from his main income
Chris loved his father and his work. You can cynically, and desperately, try to paint a straw man version of Chris that cared only for money or control but that doesn't jive with any of the surviving correspondence between him and his father.
If you love something its only natural to not want it denigrated.
lol, but it wasnt denigrated. Without the movies the trilogy would have already faded, no kid would give a frick. Im 100% serious too. Hunger Games would be more well known.
moronic homosexual im so glad you’ll be dead soon.
Still bitter he turned those boring books into all time great films. Shame, they should be grateful.
I wonder how the estate feels about the casting decisions amazon made given tolkien was a racist
There you go being a lying homosexual again.
would you at least concede that various credentialed individuals have discussed it at length?
tolkien's own words talk about orcs as caricatures of mongol-types
>days went on without Cinemaphile seething that minorities exist: 0
That's a low-quality shitpost, but I do wonder if there are people who actually think that's what it boils down to. I wouldn't have thought so, but I've read some moronic shit.
You get low effort baits as long as you energetically keep replying to all of them
All the cringeass changes he did to the story cemented Hackson as a tasteless pleb 20 years ago, and the Hobbit disaster put the last nails in the coffin. That being said, it doesn't seem there's anybody more capable involved with the Rings of Powder either. I don't know how they hand out jobs in the industry these days, but it doesn't seem skill is a factor. This doesn't really reflect well on Tolkien estate either.
didnt that moron give The Hobbit movies his blessing though? He's just a contrarian.
How is ot possible for a man raised by JRR olkien to be so bitter and hateful towards the very ideals his dad lived for
Christopher was the one that held Amazon at bay. Only after he stepped back and let his children take over the Estate the deal went forward, and only after his death they started writing and filming this shit.
He might've been too hard on Jackson but in the end he was the last one who kept the great evil away from corrupting Tolkien.
>.” But the estate is involved with the series
Yeah and Christopher Tolkien is fricking dead. I wonder why they left that out
Quick reminder, as if it weren't obvious, that this is an attempt by Amazon to sabotage the competition and lower the bar.
If they get wienery enough they'll start going after Tolkien himself, likely under the guise of correcting "problematic fans"
Theyve already done that with the constant Harfoots were "brown of skin " copypastas and "no-true-Numenorean" fallacies for weeks on end.
Theyve even got that naff senior citizen playing Celebrim-bore making Tengwar posts on Twitter now. Its all so tiresome.
>Tengwar posts on Twitter
He already said it was something he used to do as a child
I mean he does look old enough to have used Rumil's original letters when they were introduced to Aman, so I almost believe he is genuine.
Almost.
Its still leaves a rank taste in my mouth. Like those fleshy manbabies rattling off dodgy Sindarin during the ComicCon whatever.
Christopher Tolkien probably had it written into his will that Jackson should never be let near the franchise again. He was a sour, curmudgeonly old sod.
>you will never be a machiavellian chad infiltrating the tolkien estate through marriage and slowly taking over everything until you eventually direct control over the IP, and sealing it shut forever, while releasing an official statement proving all the characters are canonically white.
feels bad bros
I would dismantle the estate and declare everything LOTR related public domain.
Is there anyone here British enough to do this? I cant stand British women and im not gay enough to go for the surviving disinherited son.
Unironically you would probably get assasinated because of how much money the estate is worth to these big media corporations, like they did with Michael Jackson who owned a bunch of beatles tracks.
>claiming they turned his novels into action movies for young people that lack “beauty and seriousness.”
So why isn't the Tolkien estate criticising the amazon show for this same reason? I mean, whether you think it looks good or bad, one thing anyone can objectively agree on is that they showed lots of action scenes in the trailers and they are clearly trying to appeal to a younger, new audience.
Because Christopher is dead, anon.
Because the only Tolkien who gave a shit is dead now. Now it’s just the piece of shit heirs out looking to make a quick bucks by selling out their grandfathers life work.
Hayao Miyazaki was such an extreme Tolkien purist that he hated the Peter Jackson films.
He would probably have a heart attack after seeing The Rings of Power.
Speaking of Miyazaki, it would be really great if he adapted The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings as a single TV series.
He would then adapt everything else Tolkien made as OVAs, with a theatrical movie here and there.
This would have been kino, especially if Miyazaki stuck really close to the source material.
You know Miyazaki would want to make a little girl the main character, right? He's always wanted a daughter more than a son, and his works reflect it. He's more or less said this outright.
There'd be very little for him to adapt except the bit with Haleth killing the orc army or the Beren and Luthien story (this has the most kino potential, tbh). But hes feeling his age now and he's been been too distracted with 3D to really take something like this on with his old skill.
Miyazaki didn't just hate the movies, he hated the original story written by Tolkien. Miyazaki hates simple good vs evil stories without grey morals. He's too much of a spiritual midget to understand their value and the lessons they teach. If Miyazaki directed a LOTR movie, Sauron would be some fat, grumpy witch who turns good halfway through the movie and then the one ring just disappears and orcs, elves and humans will have to work together to stop an allegory for climate change.
don't remember all this 'grey morality' of myazaki when I watched the A6M Zero movie.
He should have read the Silmarillion then (Tolkien himself wanted it to be published alongside LOTR, but his publishers disagreed). In the Silmarillion Sauron (and even Morgoth) come as much more understandable and nuanced figures. Sauron's goal is not to be evil for evil's sake, rather he wants to accrue enough power to rule Arda in an orderly manner, bringing everyone under one banner and making things like wars and famines impossible. What Tolkien criticizes is not the goal, but the means he used to reach it.
>If Miyazaki directed a LOTR movie, Sauron would be some fat, grumpy witch who turns good halfway through the movie and then the one ring just disappears and orcs, elves and humans will have to work together to stop an allegory for climate change.
kek, sounds accurate
>Miyazaki would want to make a little girl the main character
also this
You mean that pedophile jap that hates everything and hasn't produced a decent movie in 30 years? I hope he dies of a painful, long heart attack.
Im still not watching it, Bezos.
White cuckies still paying $200 a year for Prime blow the frick out
>claiming they turned his novels into action movies for young people that lack “beauty and seriousness.”
Have they seen the trailers for Rings of Power?
the only reason """""tolkien's estate""""" hates jackson's movies is because they took a low buyout on the rights to make them thinking it wouldn't be as huge as it was.
the only reason they love amazon's Black personfication tv show is because bezos paid them $250 million upfront. they don't give a single shit about tokien's legacy.
yeah, this always gave me the same vibe as the Witcher author who to this day is salty about the video games because he sold them the rights for couple grand, but for some reason he's totally happy with the Netflix adaption and has absolutely nothing negative to say about that whatsoever.
I believe it, typical Anglos after all.
>the only reason they love amazon's Black personfication tv show is because bezos paid them $250 million upfront. they don't give a single shit about tokien's legacy.
The beady eyed anglo strikes again!
you wouldnt believe the degenerate shit people do over their families estates
never underestimate the depths "family" members will sink to
Buy an ad homosexual
>"toWkIeN wEwTaTe"
Shitopher was a hack and a shitty son and failed to prevent his father's legacy from being corrupted by even weaker sellouts
Incompetent heirs are inevitable, abolish intergenerational IP copyrights
Imagine fricking up with the Hobbit so hard that even the israelites controlling the Tolkien Estate tell you to frick off.
Black folk
>makes one of the most if not the most dedicated adaptations of a work where people live inside a handcrafted world with the mindset of capturing Tolkien's spirit while adapting a very unwieldy work in a way that they work for the big screen and pulls off a masterpiece trilogy against all odds
>Author's gay son comes out and says it's shit anyway
Christopher had 0 perspective and knowledge of adaptations and was just a bitter old man, fite me.
nah, it's decidedly mediocre and general audiences are composed of morons. there is way too much kicking ass and dumb badassery to be true to tolkien in spirit.
250 million is a small price to pay when tasked with demoralizing an entire generation.
I love the Jackson trilogy but Christopher had a point. There was no reason for some of the shit that happened except that Jackson thought it would be cool or funny.
It's fricking jarring watching rotk where one scene is Sam crying over Frodos "corpse" and the next is Legolas rail grinding an elephant
or skateboarding. or marvel-tier orc counting quips.
Jackson trilogy is trash, and I didn't even read the book.
But the Charge of the Rohirrim is probably the greatest scene in movie history
LOL go back to Cinemaphile kiddo
Jackson's LOTR trilogy did have great epic atmosphere, but it's as different from the books as Lawrence of Arabia is from Seven Pillars of Wisdom. They're still great movies, Lawrence in particular, even if you ignore the books, or more like especially if you treat the books as their own things.
without hackson's involvement we might finally get a faithful rendition of shelob or at least her mother ungoliant
You need to stop acting like a massive coomer
>acting like
good one mate
It's nothing to be proud of, it's essentially a drug addiction.
it's how tolkien wanted it to be
>editing out "a real sexy b***h"
what's wrong with you? this is hackson-tier revisionism
I'm not sure Ungoliant will be included, even though they will do the destruction of the trees
I think they will show it happening from the pov or the elves living in Tirion instead
I hope he stops fricking around and makes another Tintin now. I need a sequel.
They really wanted that Tom Bombadil part, didn't they?
>the main selling point is that they muttified everything
lol
lotr threads used to be solid gold on here. now it's going to be shitposting shill fests. damn shame.
before 2016 this board would be unanimously praising ROP as it should be
it’s literallly nothing but cia white male-election tourists weaponized by faux news and ben shapero
Nice revisionist history you got there.
>before 2016 this board would be unanimously praising ROP as it should be
If you want to make jokes, don't joke by pretending to be moronic.
There are too many actual morons for it to be distinct.