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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is that loss.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        gehehehe

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Nigga You Gay

      No

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Somewhat

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    not true you could just - ah nevermind

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dude died at sea a day later.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >assuming a raft is better

      Right guy starves at sea first because he aint got no coconuts.
      left holds on just long enough for a hot mermaid to save him, cause he got coconuts.

      I agree with the sentiment but the depicted example is a very good way to get yourself killed
      you're far more likely to be found if you stay on that sandbar. make a signal fire, spell a message, anything, these are much better ways for someone to spot you

      paddling off into the ocean on your shitty raft, now you're a tiny speck. unless you know how to navigate at sea you're probably fricked.

      Yeah, just row out into the open ocean without supplies, on a raft that'd tip when it meets the slightest waves.

      >extra dodo because three coconuts gives you shit range if you have to burn calories rowing at FRICKING OPEN SEA
      I'll take starvation in the deserted island thank you very much. Maybe make a bed with the planks so sand doesn't get up in my butt.

      >assuming staying put is better
      All baseless assumptions as this comic is only one panel. The message can be sound, but there can also be messages of receiving help from others that are on par with helping yourself.
      The comic and anyone for/against it are making assumptions on panels that do not exist.
      This should just be an inspirational quote with a picture of George Washington or some other historical figure, not some basic, 2-panel comic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >assuming staying put is better
        it objectively is though

        unless you're a maritime navigator and know exactly where the mainland is, you're far better off in a small island than adrift at sea

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          if only you bothered reading the rest of the post...

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Did you read?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >All baseless assumptions as this comic is only one panel
        >only one panel
        nobody is going to listen to a moron who can't even count.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        George Washington had hundreds if not thousands of men helping him plus he had a whole ass country willing to bankrupt itself just to spite the British.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Staying put IS better you dipshit. Islands are on maps and can actually be searched.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean in this case, it’s survival 101 to stay put. It makes it say easier to find and rescue you. And being at sea is far more dangerous than having solid ground.

        I understand the message but they chose the wrong metaphor.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sometimes true. Sometimes not.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Right guy starves at sea first because he aint got no coconuts.
    left holds on just long enough for a hot mermaid to save him, cause he got coconuts.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Or the coconut falls on his head in his sleep and lays there paralyzed from brain swelling until the crabs come.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why doesn't he just evolve to become a crab too? I guess Carcinisation is just a hoax after all.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Humanity has the chance to be crabs. They have gone to far down invertabrit tech tree.

          That's why he sleeps where the coconuts aren't and hunts crabs.

          Look, there is no place to escape the coconut and that tree has three. Statistically he has no hope of survival. He must leave the island because in the ocean there is a much lower chance of dying by coconut falling on his head.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If he grabs the coconuts he could survive. Coconut water is literally the only water he can safely drink.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Humanity is great, it's the israelites/gypsies/indians that are ruining everything. Hollywood/israelites are always hypocrites who project their awful habits onto everyone.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's why he sleeps where the coconuts aren't and hunts crabs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you can't live on coconuts and seafood without copious fresh water, if you don't die of hyperkalemia you'll die of gout

      I agree with the sentiment but the depicted example is a very good way to get yourself killed
      you're far more likely to be found if you stay on that sandbar. make a signal fire, spell a message, anything, these are much better ways for someone to spot you

      paddling off into the ocean on your shitty raft, now you're a tiny speck. unless you know how to navigate at sea you're probably fricked.

      >All baseless assumptions as this comic is only one panel.

      the only reason you'd ever be stranded on a desert island is if you were shipwrecked or in a plane crash nearby, in which case you'd have a narrow window of about a month in which there would be an intensive search of the area, beginning with the area in which your craft was lost and radiating out from that point

      if you move far from whatever point you're at voluntarily or otherwise during that period, you are statistically unlikely to ever be found because the search has limited range and will not double back; your vector will not intersect with the search vector at the same time with any real certainty, this is simply trig applied to s=d/t

      do not fricking move from where you wash up, do not leave your raft and its beacon, do build an SOS message somewhere visible, do have a beacon ready to go with smoky, oily green leaf and dry wood when you see a distant craft in air or sea

      > there can also be messages of receiving help from others that are on par with helping yourself.

      IF YOU LEAVE THE POINT AT WHICH PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING TO HELP YOU

      WHICH IS THE POINT AT WHICH THEY ARE PREPARED TO HELP YOU

      YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE HELP EXCEPT BY RANDOM CHANCE

      IF YOU NEED HELP YOU WILL NOT GET IT BY MOVING FROM THE HELP POINT

      IF YOU DO NOT NEED HELP GET OFF THE FRICKING POT YOU GODDAMNED DRAMA QUEEN

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >IF YOU NEED HELP YOU WILL NOT GET IT BY MOVING FROM THE HELP POINT
        The whole point is to help yourself by building a raft and crossing the ocean, rather than waiting for "search and rescue" like a little baby b***h loser.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          if you didn't need search and rescue, you wouldn't be stranded in the first place, like a little b***h

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why build a raft like wimp instead of swimming for it like a real man?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >swimming
            what a prancing la-la homosexual man you are.
            REAL men just walk into the sea and will themselves to not drown.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Just cross an entire ocean without any way to navigate with during the day, no protection from the sun, easily capsized when the sea gets even slightly rocky, relies entirely on hand power, is a small raft that has no room or way to keep any provision like food or water, bro!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe you should have thought about that before you got shipwrecked, whiner?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >live
        Survive. Gout isn't exactly a 2 day onset issue.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I agree with the sentiment but the depicted example is a very good way to get yourself killed
    you're far more likely to be found if you stay on that sandbar. make a signal fire, spell a message, anything, these are much better ways for someone to spot you

    paddling off into the ocean on your shitty raft, now you're a tiny speck. unless you know how to navigate at sea you're probably fricked.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not true anon, he'll end up a Kingdom Hearts character if he tries to raft off to sea.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I had people try to help me but I ghost them every time

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Counterpoint: Helping yourself doesn’t work when yourself sucks

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, just row out into the open ocean without supplies, on a raft that'd tip when it meets the slightest waves.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The greatest generation taught their kids two things: this idea and how to hate themselves. They then proceeded to raise their kids in a system of aid and support and interconnectedness that completely violated this lesson by making getting on by yourself impossible and providing oodles of help.

    Those Boomers grew up with more help than any generation in human history alongside that first lesson which scrambled their brains. Despite receiving all that help Boomers all think themselves to be self-made which is why they consistently dismantled and defunded every system they benefited from.

    Not only is OP's message a shit lesson with no value in modern human society, it actively ruined an entire generation's psyche.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What I don't understand is how people from generations that proceeded the boomers have the same morals. Even ITT there's probably anons who think Senator Armstrong was right

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He WAS right, his MEANS to achieve that were wrong

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          moron

          What I don't understand is how people from generations that proceeded the boomers have the same morals. Even ITT there's probably anons who think Senator Armstrong was right

          People learn from their parents

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but he was a funny guy I like him.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What I don't understand is how people from generations that proceeded the boomers have the same morals. Even ITT there's probably anons who think Senator Armstrong was right

      I don't think it's a good philosophy on a society level, but it IS a good one on a personal level. If all you do is sit around moaning and crying about how other people screwed everything up for you, nothing is ever going to get better. If you're waiting for the people who ruined your life to come back and fix it, you're going to be waiting the rest of your life. At some point, you just have to pick yourself up and move on.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ooooooh i killed so many people, i am so horrible
      >ooooooh i need to take it out on my family
      >ooooooh i need to make sure my children feel as bad as i do for killing all those people or not dying when my friends did

      my favorite shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      JFC if I was a homosexual zoomer I would kill myself

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this isnt true is it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nta, but there's a little sliver of truth.

        Americans worked really hard to get the oligarchs under control during the 19th century. The term "populist" originates from a movement in the US that was trying to reign in banking deals that simply savaged families and robbed them regularly.

        After The New Deal, a lot of things improved, but oligarchs lost a lot of power. Bitter and frustrated, they began building pro-oligarch networks of information and politics. William Hurst was one famous example, using his newspaper to peddle ideas about independence being linked directly to having less government and easing taxes for "entrepeneuers". Bit by bit, they chiseled away at unions, social systems, public transit, water, weather services, everything, and were able to reclaim them for the barons. Fox News is what Hurst wanted to make - an information source that teaches viewers to cheer when corporate taxes go down and airplanes get less FAA oversight, crashes and blown door plugs be disregarded. The same has happened in the food industry, in drugs, the tech industry. It's everywhere. Anti-trust law was gutted in the 70's. Donald Trump is not coming to save anyone, he's the inevitable product of this new system and the war it's waging on ordinary people. The wacky dipshit with his thumb of the right scales, who doesn't understand which parts are supposed to be done quietly because there's no reason to be quiet anymore.

        It wasn't our parents that changed the system, but the system changed dramatically in their generation, largely with them unaware. Heck I know my dad still thinks the reason things are going wrong is because powerful people need to be deregulated and empowered further. He was raised on it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It wasn't our parents that changed the system, but the system changed dramatically in their generation, largely with them unaware. Heck I know my dad still thinks the reason things are going wrong is because powerful people need to be deregulated and empowered further. He was raised on it.

          That's kind of the thing. Dictatorships cults and radicals like giving people victim mentalities because it makes them both dependant on them and also makes them not accept any responsibility. So the world goes to shit and they refuse to do things to make it better.

          On Cinemaphile examples would be Alex Hirsch and that Corozone guy. Both got a gig with Disney and Cartoon Network but after losing their jobs they have not done anything much to advance their careers but have done plenty of complaining on Twitter.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >don't point out the obvious problems that can be solved with regulation and policy, that's just a dictator trying to give you a victim mentality
            You're making this more complicated than it really is.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hirsch was doing more than just posting on twitter and he didn't lose his job, he cut his show short to end it more on his terms than Disney's. Action takes talking, showing, and presenting. There's been a few strikes since then and workers got better deals. You're conditioned to spin this all negatively.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sadly true, My grandparents think getting disability money is shameful until they got it themselves then suddenly it was ok because they needed it. They don't understand the concept that other people needed it before they did so they were always against it. I think some old people literally live in their own bubble and would straight up fail the Sally-Anne test. Or at the very least act like such which is far more embarrassing and shameful in my opinion.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It hurts how right you are.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >extra dodo because three coconuts gives you shit range if you have to burn calories rowing at FRICKING OPEN SEA
    I'll take starvation in the deserted island thank you very much. Maybe make a bed with the planks so sand doesn't get up in my butt.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where did he get that wood? There is only one tree on that island and it's not even the same kind of wood.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Driftwood.

  13. 1 month ago
    Αnonymοus

    >victim mentality will get you killed
    huh? by what?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you are not meant to take it literally anon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In this case, exposure or dehydration. Most cases this quote is used to explain in an active shooter situation when everyone runs and hides from the shooter that the nodycount is always significantly higher than when people try to fight the shooter.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're straight up wrong though. the 'I'm going to save people' mentality gets people killed WAY MORE OFTEN than it ends up saving them. I'm in construction and have to get OSHA certified every so often and they always stress how many deaths/injuries happen because someone wants to play superhero then gets themself in as bad or worse of a situation because they don't have the proper training to know what to do.

        everyone always thinks they know more than they do and when it comes to life and death situations overestimating your own abilities is what gets you killed.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's the point of the wood he left behind

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is little Le-A (the dash isn't silent) slathering herself in mayo?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the one in the pink wig isn't a girl

      dropped

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's a mop head

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cute.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    israelites got a lot with victim mentality.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >just help yourself bro

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nobody can help you if you can't help yourself

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >just help yourself bro

        It's true. I know lots of gays who will cry and moan and swear they are two inches from suicide but reach so far up their ass to find an excuse to not do even the smallest thing to improve their situation or mood.

        Being a victim is like a drug. It's shit and tastes horrible but you can't stop eating it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No one is in it alone though and those who are truly alone really wish they weren't and they want the help. Boiling it down to where being a victim means doing nothing but asking for help is being overreductive while nepotism gives people all the help they need while they tell others to go without help.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >TFW there are all those do it yourself scam artists that use a bunch of other people and companies to help them do stuff.
            Why do people fall for that shit? Is it because they want to pretend they could do it themselves?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, that's bullshit from Star Wars.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              What's bullshit? Knowing people, being born with the advantage of connections, or just doing well enough to make them, helps out a lot. Making it a "don't ask for help" situation while we know connections help is bullshit.

              >well making connections is helping yourself
              And those connections are made for you if you're born into the right families or in the right place.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The idea that connections are helpful to success was made up by people with no connections jealous of all the success connected people have.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, that's moronic on multiple levels: Connections are helpful, they land you interviews and often times employers themselves, people responsible for hiring, keep you in mind when they go somewhere else and need a team. Working for a relative gets you experience that is often a prerequisite. Also no one made it up, it's what colleges, clubs, and frats push and find success with. I'd explain further and give more examples but you're likely just trolling.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't it convenient how you focus on the fact that people who do better than you have connections, instead of the fact that they're also better people than you are? Typical victim mentality, it will get you killed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How ironic, since I can tell your perspective is that of a selfish young hermit who has hardly done anything with their life.
                You speak of connections as if they are a reward, and not as if they are necessary to make anything happen in this world.
                Just try to move your heaviest appliance up a stairway and see how far you can get by yourself.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, just keep ignoring the systemic nepotism infesting the industry, goyim! Good gentile!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                In any other context, you'd recognize how artists and even Cinemaphile industry people are successful without being particularly good or talented. I'm sure there's some preloaded narrative to explain how meritocracy fails the best people in these fields, but even that includes a recognition of connections and help assisting advantaged individuals, they didn't ruin your franchise by doing good work.

                I wouldn't be responding if it weren't true there is a concerted effort of the elite to push against the idea of addressing victims of a nepotistic system of social circles and classes, their justification for keeping all of it without question becomes harder.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I made up a straw man scenario
                >You are trolling

                Your emotional support and social connections will not make a stick raft for you.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah stupid, it doesn't matter how well-connected you are on a desert island.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I have had counciling, therapy, visited a psychologist, and my family even forced my mother to send me to some camp for people that experienced the same trauma I did, and none of it worked. The only real solution I ever am given, is "just treat your problem like an npc would", and I cannot do that. I'd actually hate myself forever if I did. I thankfully am better now thanks to having someone, but if or when I lose them, I'd likely want to commit suicide, though I am too cowardly to do it.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Victim mentality
    >Presented by being in stranded in an island
    ...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >assuming staying put is better
      it objectively is though

      unless you're a maritime navigator and know exactly where the mainland is, you're far better off in a small island than adrift at sea

      Maybe you should have learned to fricking navigate instead of whining about it.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    huh

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most rescues of desert islands happen due to smoke signals and SOSes not magically rafting thousands of miles to land

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >neoliberal propaganda
    Ignored.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's all circumstantial and people give advice based on retrospect. Also you can claim victim status and be a victim while using that for assistance and also while helping yourself. This "stoic" shutdown of victimization serves those who victimize. Those who benefit from victimizing.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >this thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Instead of staying put with the only drinkable water from coconuts go out into the ocean where you will most likely die as drift wood isn't that strong.
      This metaphor sucks. How is the guy even making a stable raft?

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is no fricking way he made that raft with just the wood from that sign.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So if i see a person in serious trouble, i.e. a mugging, i should just leave them be?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      YOU BECOME AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT. YOU MUST REMAIN A PASSIVE BYSTANDER.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they've got that victim mentality don't they

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Strenght comes in numbers. Join the mugger and kick the hell out of that homosexual.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This image accurately proves why this sentiment can be wrong sometimes. Being an independent, antisocial jackass can easily get you killed as much as relying on others for help.
    Learn to rely on others but also be a pillar of strenght for yourself.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Building a raft and then sailing with it burns too many calories compared to sitting down and waiting for help.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >boomer comic
    Interesting they have the “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” message here. It’s okay to ask for help.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where did he get the material to strap the logs together to make the raft? Plus where did the pole come from?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Where did he get the material to strap the logs together to make the raft?
      Glued with cum.

      >Plus where did the pole come from?
      Your mum's arse

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The example is so poorly thought out that I question the writer's intelligence and thus their menssage.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I do recall reading several books about how unhelpful thinking patterns reduce neuroplasticity and inhibit the ability for people to grow

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >needing help from your thinking patterns
      NGMI

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        its not something you need to ask others for help, many self-help books or merely meditation and yoga have been proven to work in clinical studies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >take a walk, call a friend, breathe, step away etc
      Every fricking time, every damn time this useless advice from someone who never had it bad

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Uh-oh, sounds like victim mentality!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you do realize that its specific advice for negative automatic thought patterns and not whatever you're probably thinking about?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You realize that is generic no advice from your usual armchair psychologist.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4178287/
            anon.. i...

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Damn so it is official the average Cinemaphile user is on the level of national experts...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i mean your average Cinemaphile user would probably tell you to get a sterilize a small cut and use a bandaid, which is something a trained nurse would also prescribe for the same type of injury
                some things are just common fact

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You deliberately used an extremely simple situation but how about this: I don't have any friends, I never had. I can't go out and talk to them, I can't forget I'm slowly going blind and deaf and my back is fricked since I was young.
                Your armchair psychology stops here because it only works for non issues. In a way it is ironic you did use the bandaid example because it is true. You are trying to put a bandaid on a missing arm and get upset when it doesn't work.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                yeah like i said, its specifically for "negative automatic thought patterns and not whatever you're probably thinking about"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it works dude, it just doesn't work
                How about you frick off

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                in other words you're saying that a small cut doesnt measure up to losing limbs but thats the point, its advice for a specific condition that you're conflating with yours

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Then we talk about the same as I said your armchair psychology is only good for non issues. You don't need a degree for that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                damn i guess everything from veteran PTSD to numerous social disorders are now non-issues

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Does your advice cure syphilis? No? Guess I'll talk to a "real" doctor

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                None of your garbage advice is good for anything serious. It's good for "oh I'm a bit bored and Cathy cancelled move night and now I'm sad." For someone with an actual fricking problem that advice is completely useless and in fact harmful. Frick you. I hope you lose a loved one or something so that you can know what it's like to feel actually helpless and have people shovel useless advice in your face.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Neurotypical people will always be fine.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >your average Cinemaphile user would probably tell you to get a sterilize a small cut and use a bandaid
                Typical newbie an average Cinemaphile user would call you a homosexual for blog posting, no one cares about your stupid cut frick off

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The
        > take a walk
        > step away
        Is real though. It's proven simply going outside for a walk helps clear the mind. Love to do that shit with some music.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, great. Whenever I stop stimulating myself and end up in my own thoughts I start going over every single fricking mistake and failure that I ever did, going back to fricking elementary school and terminating with my failed marriage or the fact that I can't ever be a father due to a fricked up bike injury. So yeah, please tell me how a fricking walk with music is going to fix my lost masculinity. Eat shit, you double Black person.

          Now admittedly, I did work out a solution, in that I'm going to be a god-parent so that's cool, but still it's not the fricking same.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >how's this stupid gay music shit supposed to help Black person?
            Lol you mean outside the obvious? Getting you offline and outside, daily? You know, touching grass? Keeping you active. I can already tell your so fricking jaded from stewing in your own bullshit here on Cinemaphile you think that's dumb and gay and won't help either dispite the mental science to back it. I didn't need the back story grandpa, but now that I've got it let's analyze this shit. Who the frick walks away from a broken marriage reviewing every mistake they've made since elementary school repeatedly and comes to the solution of "i'll just be a God parent!" Having kids won't fix shit wrong with you, get that dangerous idea out of your head now before hurt whatever poor bastard you choose to adopt. If you have kids already from your divorce. I can already tell you "god parent" is out lol. They're already fricked.

            Your the typa guy who just cant let the past fricking go. The only way is to keep moving forward. You had a nasty divorce and you broke your balls, infertility and divorce happens to alot of people but sitting on your ass coming here repeatedly and sperging at anons recommending ideas that nudges you in the right direction is in not the answer. Plenty of ideas in here at least clearly better than any shit idea you've been cooking in your broken head. Therapist aren't the magic wands you think they are, they are not the only thing that can help you. As someone who's done countless sessions with Therapists I can already tell your going to be reallll fukin pissed when you pay that 600 dollar fee. Cause all they can do is talk and listen to you, they label things and recommend pills but they're just really expensive tools you use. Healing comes from you and what you decide to do with your circumstances. If you can't help yourself no one can. wich is exactly what that comic was saying. Lose your victim mentality.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              TLDR,
              You have victim mentality and have become so jaded you can't even make small attempts at helping yourself. You would sooner stew in your shit here till have money for a therapist who will then inevitably give the same exact "touch grass" "move on" advice.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dick status?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Right? Jesus fricking Christ there's nothing worse than some fricking c**t of an butthole who gives you this kind of platitude. Black person, if I was capable of thinking in such a constructive way, I would fricking do it. Working this shit out is a long and arduous process that requires long-term personal self-improvement, therapy from someone who is qualified to help with stuff that isn't platitudes, and maybe even drugs. This fricking garbage is so aggravating. "Breathe deeply," frick off.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Right is suicide.
    Left has water in his coconuts, he can survive for weeks and however he got there there is probably looking for him for liability reasons

    Just the dumbest possible take from the morons who don't get that bootstrap pulling-up literally does nothing but hurt your back and figuratively isn't much better

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frick, now I'm reminded of that computer screensaver with the dude stuck on an island. I swear that thing was like a TV show since it seemed to have like several dozen scenarios. Sometimes the guy sailed off, only to get chased by sharks. Another time he's strapped down like Gulliver's tales. And I think there was a mermaid.
    Anybody else remember that screensaver?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sure. The mermaid fricks a dolphin, as I recall.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >screensaver
      take your meds grampa

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You first, newbie

        Doesn't sound familiar to me, but I googled your description. Was it Johnny Castaway?

        I believe it was

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't sound familiar to me, but I googled your description. Was it Johnny Castaway?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The frick is that on the right

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A raft, in the screensaver he eventually builds one and returns home but gets bored of his mundane life and returns cause he has a mermaid waifu.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >drowns in the fricking ocean like moron
    thanks boomer

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah but im scared of sharks. They can easily capsize that tiny and makeshift boat.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you can ask for help AND help yourself, they aren't mutually exclusive. if you're getting stabbed in an alley you should scream for help and also defend yourself. you can do both.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Comics are often overly reductive to prove a point, but there's a tradition of framing "victim mentality" as looking for help or assistance generally from those who don't automatically get it. Studies show that people with an advantage often don't see or at least don't publicly recognize that advantage. Likely a defense mechanism to justify what they have and more readily protect it/justify keeping it. Plus admitting you needed help and weren't cool and successful by your own merits looks horrible on a resume and a job interview. It's better to keep up the illusion that successful people are just better and more deserving people and any could be like them, they just aren't because they're worse and less deserving.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Plus admitting you needed help and weren't cool and successful by your own merits looks horrible on a resume and a job interview.
        but doing the opposite basically implies having no real experience
        you want your resume to show that you've done a good amount otherwise the interviewer is just gonna think you're an idiot anyway

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Successful people want to take credit for everything that happened to them, and failures want to reject responsibility for everything they've ever done. The sky is blue, and the sun rises in the east.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In this context you're calling asking for help in general "being a failure" when recognizing the basic concept of nepotism is to recognize that often success comes with using the help and connections you're born closer to. It holds that if you're in a position that would benefit from asking for help, you've done something wrong, you've failed, neglecting that most the most common ladder to success is help.

          Every man is an island

          How do you figure? Being born closer to money, power, opportunity, and connections is better than being born isolated from all that and into worse households.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well yeah, ideally you want to be born on a rich island, with a yacht.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And nuclear weapons.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but there's a tradition of framing "victim mentality" as looking for help or assistance generally from those who don't automatically get it
        Depends on the group, some classes get omnipotent sympathy to justify anything they do, others are told to stop acknowledging their real issues by hypocrites who claim to help everyone

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nice narrative, Black person. You're too far up your own ass to see what help is and reduce it to shallow aesthetics and vibes.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You're too far up your own ass to see what help is and reduce it to shallow aesthetics and vibes.
            Hardcore projection there, homosexualard

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How so? I'm not the one making sweeping generalizations about a "hypocritical" demographic, I'm judging you based on what you're saying.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are the one pushing a vapid understanding of "help", by assuming it's never in bad faith, o generalize a statement with no context. You don't even know which groups I mean, smart ass.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't need to know what groups you're talking about, I'm judging you based on what you're doing. If you would like to offer specific criticism of specific people, you would have. So now the topic is just your assumption of my understanding of help which is non sequitur and you don't have real information on that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The framing just feels insulting to people who are successful.

        Yes I had connections and help, my parents were able to pay for my college so I don’t have student debt, and they gave me a car. It was a huge step up.

        However, that was not the reasons I had a 4.0 for my CS degree, it wasn’t the reason I was focused on personal projects instead of partying and doing drugs. It wasn’t the reason I spent my summers interning at companies instead of fricking around.

        So when people try to frame it as me having an advantage, it treats all my hard work as if it didn’t exist or that I haven’t ALSO worked hard to get where I am. That’s why people hate this attitude. Everyone who is successful still worked hard to get there, they didn’t literally get handed everything on a silver platter.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You had the opportunities you had because of advantages, and you did better than other people who had the same opportunities because you worked harder than they. Why are you acting insecure about it? People who had better opportunities than you have done worse, but other people who never had your opportunities would, in your place, have done better.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >why are you insecure
            Because I’m explaining why this framing of advantages is insulting. Just like how talent is insulting to artists.
            Yes it exists, but by acting like it’s the sole reason for someone’s success is demeaning all the hard work and effort they still had to put in to get there.

            Don’t be surprised when people get annoyed with you for acting like they dont deserve the fruit of their labor.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Different anon:
              I think you may be inferring more than what he's saying. I don't think he's saying you deserve it or not.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It might be people are dismissive of your accomplishments because people don't like you? Your posts don't exactly smack of Mr. Congeniality or anything.

              And look, people don't really like to see a smug c**t succeed regardless. They might really be attacking you personally and figure there was someone better who deserves what you have - which I suppose is why you need to pull that ladder up. So they don't getcha.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Because I’m explaining why this framing of advantages is insulting.
              It's insulting because you're insecure.
              >A: I work hard and deserve what I get.
              >B: But you also went to school. Maybe if we made sure everybody got proper schooling, more people would be able to -
              >A: HOW DARE YOU IMPLY I DON'T DESERVE WHAT I'VE GOT.
              It's just such a non sequitur. People talk about how advantages are (gasp) helpful to have and your response is to complain that you find their framing insulting. So what?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Looks like I'm too late. Please read:

              Your free time and resources to direct your hard work to studying and getting a 4.0 in a country where that means something and you have the opportunity to use it is an advantage. It's not insulting, it's factual. Your hard work is recognized, I think that's really cool, but I think it's even cooler when people who come from bad neighborhoods with single mother households and having to work a job for their car and their education get a 4.0. Am I going to say they have a victim mentality for ever getting financial aid or some fund to help them pay for their education or food? No, and frick anyone who calls that being a failure. This is what this is about. Recognizing advantage isn't meant to diminish your hard work, it's to frame measures meant to assist the disadvantage more positively so they get to exist rather than live in a fantasy where circumstance has less barring on which hard worker is going to be able to move out and start a family.

              Again, "lessons" like these are meant to vilify the disadvantaged for asking for help in such a way that implies help can't really help you.

              You deserve the fruit of your labor and its okay for you to ask for help. Even as a successful person, there are going to be things you need to ask for help with and asking for and getting help doesn't mean you have a "victim mentality".

              What I'm saying here is obvious, our impressions and reactions come through layers of narratives and anti-worker, anti-consumer propaganda.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You do have to realize it's easier to find motive when you feel like you're going places, though. There's stats that show just knowing your college education will be payed for reduces drug use and other delinquent behaviors, because the person feels like they have a shot.

          In today's work force, there's no system of loyalty nor of empathy. Companies focus a lot on attrition rates, and want people to quit so as to avoid giving out steady raises. People lose hope and give up when it feels like you're playing against a stacked deck. Sure, you worked hard, and some people have naturally poor impulse control, but a system that says you need $50k just to get started is one that's going to have fewer "hard workers" by design.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your free time and resources to direct your hard work to studying and getting a 4.0 in a country where that means something and you have the opportunity to use it is an advantage. It's not insulting, it's factual. Your hard work is recognized, I think that's really cool, but I think it's even cooler when people who come from bad neighborhoods with single mother households and having to work a job for their car and their education get a 4.0. Am I going to say they have a victim mentality for ever getting financial aid or some fund to help them pay for their education or food? No, and frick anyone who calls that being a failure. This is what this is about. Recognizing advantage isn't meant to diminish your hard work, it's to frame measures meant to assist the disadvantage more positively so they get to exist rather than live in a fantasy where circumstance has less barring on which hard worker is going to be able to move out and start a family.

          Again, "lessons" like these are meant to vilify the disadvantaged for asking for help in such a way that implies help can't really help you.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Again, "lessons" like these are meant to vilify the disadvantaged for asking for help in such a way that implies help can't really help you.
            Different anon:
            But I think the intent may be not to vilify the disadvantaged rather than make it easier to argue that they don't need help, so they don't have to or foot the bill for it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I use the word "vilify" because the intention is often that harsh: Those who are wealthy and have access to resources by merit of having them because if they have and maintain them, they are earned. If you don't have them, what you have earned is a worse life because you are a worse person. That worse life is meant to weed you out as you are undesirable and there really are too many people like you. Having a "victim menality" is to, in this context, say that you're just a drain on resources, helping you is a disservice to all. You compelling me to help you is bad. People who don't ask for help (but still get assistance based on the circumstances they were born into) are just better than you and more deserving.

              Now please keep in mind that personal responsibility is important, but the point here is about the concept of asking for and getting help and the delusion of somehow doing everything yourself making you better.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >delusion of somehow doing everything yourself making you better.
                And by that I mean the delusion of doing it all yourself and never considering your luck or circumstance that contributed. The kicker is that those who believe in capitalist meritocracy recognize that there is no "right to outcomes" meaning that you can work hard, harder than anyone around you, and still fail harder most. The philophy is meant to isolate you, work you to death, and tell you the raw deal, your sparse reward, is part of the plan and how dare you for asking for the same luck people better off have. This isn't a call to redistribute wealth, it's just pointing out the obvious real capitalists will often agree to and repeat, mostly when they're already finding their success.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >delusion of somehow doing everything yourself making you better.
                And by that I mean the delusion of doing it all yourself and never considering your luck or circumstance that contributed. The kicker is that those who believe in capitalist meritocracy recognize that there is no "right to outcomes" meaning that you can work hard, harder than anyone around you, and still fail harder most. The philophy is meant to isolate you, work you to death, and tell you the raw deal, your sparse reward, is part of the plan and how dare you for asking for the same luck people better off have. This isn't a call to redistribute wealth, it's just pointing out the obvious real capitalists will often agree to and repeat, mostly when they're already finding their success.

                I understand your position and I don't wholly agree, but again I'm not sure if there's that much malice there. That could be me (perhaps foolishly) giving 'them' the benefit of the doubt.
                But again, I wouldn't say that kind of malice is out of the question. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if that was sometimes the case. Just that in this case maybe I might assume they're simply ignorant of situations less fortunate than their own. Far easier to assume ignorance than malice, or something like that.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and I don't wholly disagree*
                Pardon. Big difference there.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're right, for most it's ignorance rather than malice but then you need to understand the levels of disdain people have for the lower class, poor, disadvantaged, and people generally falling on hard times. Their situation is often framed as deserved because to be more reasonable, less harsh, is to say that they need help. We as individuals don't spring to their aid. Pity, empathy, understanding, these ways of looking at those who ask for help begs the question of why aren't you helping and the answer is "going to the movies is so expensive now and I guess I'm a bad person for prioritizing that over helping anyone" and then there's support for more programs to help the disadvantaged. The alternate way of looking at it is that you're good for not needing that help and they're bad for asking for it because you didn't ask for it and now they're getting something you didn't and you're a crab in a bucket. They must be bad because they can't consistently make enough money. Good people make enough money and are productive.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Their situation is often framed as deserved
                But have you ever considered that it is deserved? I unironically believe in the just-world hypothesis. People only get what they deserve in life.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bold move to openly state you believe in a logical fallacy.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That runs counter to what ardent capitalists understood, it's Evola schizo bullshit meant to justify mistreating the desperate and disadvantaged post hoc.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, you're replying to >Intentionallogicalfallacies.png
                Like, that's literally what he's doing. It's literally the origin of trollface.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You know how if someone tells you about their religion, you're inclined to believe that's what they believe on some level? When it comes to ideological cope, this flavor of capitalist/neolib cope is expected because anything less is to recognize obvious problems at the expense of massive donors and "the economy".

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but in this case he literally name-dropped the fallacy he said he believed. He explicitly told you what he believed was a logical fallacy.
                Not trying to get on your case or that you're wrong here but in this very specific and particular post - I don't think he could be more disingenuous even if he was stating he was being such on purpose to get a rise out of you.
                But I could be mistaken. I've seen dumber posts made sincerely before. Not many, but a few.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not really unbelievable at all, so I can see that as definitely being an easy way to dehumanize someone to assuage guilt.

                Somewhat off topically, I've noticed here on Cinemaphile there's this incredulous reaction to telling people on Cinemaphile that the sorts of "bad" or "sad" endings in cartoons isn't realistic when - unfortunately - the happy endings where the kid gets adopted away from his abusive family is not really all that typical. Again unfortunately - This is actually pretty typical to see awful things happen to the innocent or otherwise good people.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BP

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the point of being always positive? say stuff like "as long as you put the working. You cannot achieve anything." What's the point of saying things that simply aren't true and everybody already knows it?
    How to say to the billions of people on earth, Just as long as they work, they can leave their work and become a millionaire? That's not gonna happen, simple and plain.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >my parents said I could be anything, so I became a failure

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's a difference between being positive and being unrealistic

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He left the fricking coconuts on the island. He's dead.

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If people could help themselves, they would.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Meh

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    christianity and its disastrous consequences on the west

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I guess because if you boil down problems to spiritual magic rather than money buying power and no limits on bribing politicians and no real tax for reign in the wealthy, individuals would increasingly take power from many to ensure they get richer and we get poorer and the protestant work ethic and pro-capitalist values would have us understanding that our inability to have housing, health care, and a family is due to a lack of our own godliness. People who have money and get more money are doing something right and better than us, they are more godly and work harder and deserve it. To point out the lack of meritocracy, to point out problems with this system carries an evil with it many can't explain because we've been conditioned to see that as a form of jealousy.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no one is coming
    That's not true, anon. I'll be coming. If people need me, I'll come in an instant, and I can come fast and hard enough for everyone.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every man is an island

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You've misunderstood the comic; he's ON an island.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That just means he's a double island

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Every man is an island

          Where's the coconut tree growing from him then?

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    don't do that

    ?si=d22PKX0ve5Agmd5h

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, it's not the best illustration about explaining victim mentality. It's kind of hard to put a fat black woman chugging McDonald's, neglecting her kids, complaining about politics while showing she isn't getting a job, isn't getting healthy food or even trying to be healthy, that her kids are learning this additude and also becoming resentful of the mother and will be lured into criminal activity because of her poor parenting, how she is having these kids out of several ruined relationships and meaningless sexual encounters as well as to compound her pita ce of welfare, and how he neighborhood is a violent horrible place because she refuses that her vore doesn't matter and she doesn't care to participate in her local community government.

      I mean, in panel one staying on the island and making SOS signals from what you can scrap up is mostly the right thing to do.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Conservative ideology is so fricking stupid.

    >Nothing in society can change so you should be selfish and only work on yourself and if you need help eat shit and die.

    >Do facts disprove my moronic beliefs? whatever. I will continue to enforce a society that will never change or help people. And just victim blame while I suck my own wiener because I'm doing fine or I will be when I become a millionaire.

    >Yeah, it sucks when all you have is yourself and sometimes no matter how hard you try you get fricked over but just keep trying because maybe just maybe you'll be lucky enough to get out of this position other animals forced you into. And even though most people need help and very few people can actually do it all by themselves let's never make society better in any way and scream about how everyone struggling just didn't work hard enough.

    Also, this is obviously a stealth POL thread.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll take your concession

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I am so confused by the image he used. How does anything I said here have anything to do with trannies? I hate trannies. But I am not obsessed with them. I think Anon fried his brain obsessing over weirdo freaks. What a shit tear meme. WTF I thought conservatives knew how to meme. What happened?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Conservatives, like their opposites, have never known how to meme.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >le both sides
              It's more of a thing that happens with political statements and memes; they require you to complete the picture with your own bias. In a vacuum it's shallow and silly niche humor conveying an idea that you need to not just agree with, accept the meme uncritically. Political memes are meant to be punchy, but thet fall apart with any serious scrutiny.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Political memes are flag-waving, they rarely rise to the level of school playground humour.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's why I like John Oliver over others. He presents plenty of hard facts and information and it isn't just "ugh those guys am I right?"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Current year man?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is he wrong though? It is, in fact, the current year.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is? Since when? Last year it was last year! And now you're saying that it's currently the current year? I don't believe it!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How is he current year man? What meme are you trying to use to dismiss information?

                Whatever Black person. Thomas the Train is Cinemaphile:

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The right wing latched on to "it's the current year" because Oliver emphatically stated that racism should be dead as of the year 2016, or whenever he said it. And I think he repeated it a few times.

                It stuck because it now feels very quaint to imagine racism in the US being dead or unwelcome. Trump had an openly practicing Klansman doing something in his cabinet. I can't remember what, but it was one of those jobs like "racial relations chairman". The guy who owned AccuWeather was also put in charge of the weather service, which he stomped flat so it'd compete less with AccuWeather - though that's got nothing to do with the "current year" meme.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Link please, it sounds like this was a bit and you're missing the irony because you had the expectation of him being sincere about that. It was "funny" that Trump's rhetoric brought out actual racists after 8 years of a black president and whites were projected to lose majority status.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm the other anon. He's definitely not wrong and it's been a meme for quite a while. It even has a know your meme page (for whatever that's worth.) People gave it shit for a long time.

                Started in 2015 by the way.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was a sentiment of the time that in the 20th century, we really should be an equal-opportunity society, or at least striving towards it and taking the goal seriously. Before Trump it was considered unacceptable for the President to promote neo-Nazis, if you can believe it. The right wing pushed back on "current year" because it was phrased as the reason you wouldn't vote Republican. Oliver was saying stuff like, "don't vote for Trump or support white nationalism, it's 2015, we should be better than this."

                Trump supporters turned it into "don't disagree with me in current year", and that resonated with their base.

                But now, like, Oliver just feels naively optimistic for having said it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What meme are you trying to use to dismiss information?
                I'm not. The meme for a long time was, "it's current year." Which started with John Oliver saying, "come on people it's (whatever the year when it started was)"
                I don't particularly have a particularly strong opinion on him one way or another but he's definitely a more politically charged host when viewed through the lens of the internet.

                I'm the other anon. He's definitely not wrong and it's been a meme for quite a while. It even has a know your meme page (for whatever that's worth.) People gave it shit for a long time.

                Started in 2015 by the way.

                It was a sentiment of the time that in the 20th century, we really should be an equal-opportunity society, or at least striving towards it and taking the goal seriously. Before Trump it was considered unacceptable for the President to promote neo-Nazis, if you can believe it. The right wing pushed back on "current year" because it was phrased as the reason you wouldn't vote Republican. Oliver was saying stuff like, "don't vote for Trump or support white nationalism, it's 2015, we should be better than this."

                Trump supporters turned it into "don't disagree with me in current year", and that resonated with their base.

                But now, like, Oliver just feels naively optimistic for having said it.

                Looked it up, it's a /misc/ meme and he's a comedian. The video I linked has him criticizing the Biden and Obama administrations as well as Trump's.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What meme are you trying to use to dismiss information?
                I'm not. The meme for a long time was, "it's current year." Which started with John Oliver saying, "come on people it's (whatever the year when it started was)"
                I don't particularly have a particularly strong opinion on him one way or another but he's definitely a more politically charged host when viewed through the lens of the internet.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they rarely rise to the level of school playground humour.
                Not sure if you noticed but that's internet in its entirety.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not so. It's possible to trade amusing barbs on Cinemaphile for example, but when someone calls you a troony and tells you to 40% yourself they're not even trying to be witty.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Respectfully - most of those clever barbs on Cinemaphile are the same kind of schoolyard quips just with slightly more adult vocabulary. Sometimes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's the difference between banter and name-calling. One is an attempt to be entertaining and one is not.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Mild disagree:
                Banter's between friends and ironically a way people form stronger bonds or express some level of comeraderie.
                But this is Cinemaphile and we're anonymous so I think that falls flat. So we're left with what's effectively name calling.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's the difference between banter and name-calling. One is an attempt to be entertaining and one is not.

                Image related.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Banter's between friends and ironically a way people form stronger bonds or express some level of comeraderie.
                Frequently it's just play. Especially internet banter.

                [...]
                Image related.

                They didn't draw a distinction between the cucks and non-cucks and use cuck exclusively to mean kids from the wrong clique, which makes it better than political memes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Frequently it's just play.
                I personally think that it's play between friends but that's because the anonymous nature of the boards and lack of tone make that a little less the case here. But you've probably sussed my biases out by now.

                >They didn't draw a distinction between the cucks and non-cucks and use cuck exclusively to mean kids from the wrong clique, which makes it better than political memes.
                Won't disagree here.

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I try to help myself and I’ve been largely successful, at least when it comes to tangible practical measures like having a job and being well groomed.

    But mentally I’m still suffering and despite doing everything I can to help myself it’s not helping. I want help but it feels like there’s nothing I can do and nobody I can go to. And having seen my sister in therapy I’m not going to waste thousands on pointless bs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should build a raft.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tardfrickers

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh, one time.

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dude died at sea.
    If you're lost in a large area (like an ocean) you get to a safe place near where you were last seen and try to make yourself visible. Don't move around more than you have to, you'll be harder for rescue workers to find.
    Obviously there are exceptions to "stay in place," like when you got lost in a reasonably small area and there's a good chance you can get to a road or body of water to follow. But that sort of fine detail is hard to work into a metaphor.

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shitmongers

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This

    I walked by a homeless man who lost a leg in Afghanistan. I told him that he needs to stop being a b***h and to get off the corner of the street.

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah anyone who hates OPs pic is probably a poorgay.

    Poor people have always been shown to have a crab mentality and envious behavior. There's a reason why people stay in poverty and it all boils down to victimhood mentality. Poorgays are also narcissists who see nothing wrong with committing crimes because to a poorgay he's "special" and laws don't apply to him.

    Give a millionaires 5 dollars and drop him off in a third world country then he'll become a millionare within a few years.

    Give a poorgay five dollars and drop him off in a third world country then he'd waste it on frivolous items and cry once he's out of cash.

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reposting the gif of this comic since it's tangibly related.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
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        Anonymous
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          Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Richard actually did work hard though?

            This comic was always made to be rage-bait.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              zenpencils is a shit storyteller, but the main point of the comic was that Richard always had the inherit advantage of money and family connections working for him and he only needed to run in the final stretch

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >inherit advantage of money and family connections
                In first world countries these don't necessarily mean success. You can rise to the top even from poverty if you actually apply yourself

                >shit storyteller
                that he is. I can't help but notice he always shows Paula acting lazy or moronic and yet somehow we're supposed to sympathize with her?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >In first world countries these don't necessarily mean success. You can rise to the top even from poverty if you actually apply yourself
                I feel like what that other anon said about defence mechanisms is true, with how even mentioning on an open forum the idea that advantages are helpful always draws such immediate deflection.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Richard actually did work hard though

              Did he though? Because you can get into a good school just by your parents having gone there first, ie legacy admissions. Or your daddy paid for a new library so you got in through that way. And maybe once you were in all you really did was do just enough to pass classes without much actual hard work because you knew your daddy had connections and it was already settled matter that his friend was going to give you a job. And once again after you had the job all you had to do was not frick up and just kiss ass.

              Time and time again the myth of “self-made man” and “just working hard” is proven a myth because the rich usually had a family member or connection that got them a leg up and the real success and money didn’t come from just working 24/7 but from exploiting something. Bill Gates wasn’t a tech genius innovator, he ripped off shit. Jeff Bezos’ business model is just to undermining brick and mortar shops until they went out of business and exploiting his warehouse employees to the point they’re forced to shit in bags and piss in bottles due to how nightmarishly micromanaged and scrutinised to the second their job performance is. Plus most of Amazon’a real money comes from cloud services and military contracts. Same way most giant companies largely maintain their dominance by buying out smaller competitors and ripping them off, not by offering better products.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Look it's not just that. Many people who come from wealth genuinely are hard working, but if those same people came from poverty that work ethic would not have lead to the same success.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would you read such a long shit post?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's no real response to this because it's true. Yes, innovation and competition have churned out a better quality of life, but the profit that flows to the top and increasingly drains from the bottom means that any positive anecdote about this system is on a timer; there's only so much to drain, there's only so much profit to extract from workers and consumers until your middle class diminishes and you're left calling them lazy and entitled while you never understand how the competition of value meals didn't ultimately lead to widely available cheap and affordable food, it snuffed out the competition and then maximized profit by scrapping the value to meal and raising the prices.

                Why would you read such a long shit post?

                How is it a shit post?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Did he though?
                Yes

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This reminds me of that feminist comic about men being treated better at the workplace that someone edited into the guy and the boss being best buds running around goofing off and dropping all the work on the girl

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The author should've specified what degrees each of the two got. If you get a worthless meme degree, of course you're not going to get a job with it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Polytech is usually vocational school. Like she was trying to learn to be an electrician or something, but then her dad got sick and she dropped out to take care of him, which is a pretty common situation in a country where medicine is the leading cause of bankruptcy. Like they can't afford medical care so a family member had to do it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >dropped out to take care of him
              That was a mistake on her part.
              >medicine is the leading cause of bankruptcy
              One, medical insurance will completely cover the bill once a yearly amount listed in the policy is exceeded, and two, bankruptcy is, in fact, an option if finances become that strained; it boggles my mind that people act like bankruptcy is somehow "game over, fricked for life". The entire point of filing for bankruptcy is to get a fresh start if you would otherwise be irreparably in the hole.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That was a mistake on her part.
                don't forget that she goes heavily into debt for a degree and that's why she can't get any loans. Live within your means people!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean sure why don't poor people with no money just buy lawyers to walk them through bankruptcy and see things through with all the debt collectors. There's nothing wrong with how this works, just buy more money if you've run out.

                I think you know the upper class isn't smarter than the lower class just based on how much they struggle to understand basic money math. If your bank account is already basically 0, you can't afford all the neat tax loop holes, investment strategies, and legal defenses.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >upper class isn't smarter than the lower class
                nta but IQ usually correlates with salary and also due to the fact that people with successful genes reproduce with each other.

                There's a reason why Rich people are usually more attractive/smarter than poorer people.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >IQ
                Honestly I feel bad for subhumans with an double-digit iq. The world is not kind to morons.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's literally half the adult population of the planet, anon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't need a lawyer to go through bankruptcy court, anon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. It's well-known that it's actually impossible for your financial or family or medical situation to either benefit you or hinder you in any way whatsoever. When you read some comic about someone down on her luck, "well the dumb c**t must have done something to deserve it" is a perfectly correct and normal human response.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"well the dumb c**t must have done something to deserve it
                yeah just ignore all her goofing off in page 1

                and her moronic idea of getting into debt in page 2

                Paula would've made it to Richards level if she took her classes seriously in order for her to get a scholarship.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you posting kewl chad memes at me? I'm agreeing with you. The reason the offspring of the rich succeed more than the children of the poor is because they are blessed from birth with superior character. It's physically impossible for anyone smarter or harder working than you are to ever be less successful than you, it's literally against the laws of thermodynamics (which were invented by rich, smart people) .

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ignore all her goofing off
                she's a child in that panel anon, children goof off when they don't have parents taking care of every move they do
                >her moronic idea of getting into debt
                she came from a poor family, she had to pay for her education somehow

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bankruptcy isn't a magic get out of jail free card. It ruins your financial standing and cause your wages to be garnished. It can also disqualify you from life-insurance.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ruins your financial standing
                By the time things get to the point of needing to file for bankruptcy, credit scores tend to already be absolutely godawful. You're screwed on that front whether you declare bankruptcy or not.
                >garnishment
                Thankfully, in most states, there's a limit on how much of your paycheck can be garnished.
                >disqualify you from life insurance
                Anon, a lot of people, especially people who have always been bad with money, don't have life insurance in the first place. Besides, in the event that you somehow stop fricking up, and actually get in decent financial shape, you can set aside investments as an alternative.

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The message is wrong, but it can be taught in better ways. People who suffer from victim mentality cannot immediately gain independence, they need some sort of guidance to gradually learn to become more self-sustained in their worldview. At least good psychology literature, but preferably a therapist. Of course, most preferably of all, a father figure.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick, I meant the message isn't wrong*

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >People who suffer from victim mentality

      LMAO the only people who "suffer" from victim mentality are the people around them. These "victims" know goddamn well what they're doing.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hurt people hurt people.

        I'm glad you said that because there is such a thing as a detrimental victim mentality and it's worth exploring, but comics like these use the term "victim mentality" to shame those who don't "pull themselves up by their own bootstraps". There's personal responsibility and then there's removing all context to imply that somehow successful people are successful because they didn't ask for help and giving people help is wrong because they're better off killing and eating you than asking you for help.

        Yeah, shaming is by far the most common way to deal with these people, but it's useless and only makes them feel worse and more helpless. They need to be given some gentle but firm encouragement to work on themselves, maybe some specific directions, though for the latter the person giving advice would have to know what they're talking about to begin with.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We're talking about two different kinds of people because the comic isn't referencing victim mentality addressed by therapy, it's saying being poor and asking for assistance means you have a victim mentality. The comic is more of a lesson of tapping into resources and using them correctly depending on the circumstance. Both actions taken are good situationally, but in most cases asking for help, getting guidance, getting loans or advice, are all fine and good. Often the solutions of the "victims" here come at the detriment of others, saying "take matters into your own hands" isn't the perfect solution when they resort to robbing you or even crossing borders illegally for work and to escape bad conditions.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm glad you said that because there is such a thing as a detrimental victim mentality and it's worth exploring, but comics like these use the term "victim mentality" to shame those who don't "pull themselves up by their own bootstraps". There's personal responsibility and then there's removing all context to imply that somehow successful people are successful because they didn't ask for help and giving people help is wrong because they're better off killing and eating you than asking you for help.

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *unless you're black

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Because we believe strongly in the concept of electing officials who represent us. Blaming a generation includes their elected officials and corporations, but as they are the ones who raised the future generations, any mindset we have collective isn't just the fault of the government and corporations, it's theirs too.

    And to that point, something that is often left out when discussing American history and the post WW2 boom is cause of the boom. Most propaganda frames America not as opportunistic with supply chains untouched by two world wars, but by benefiting from corporations having more and more power and freedom from regulation. That narrative created an automatic support for what would later be Reagan era policy and a violent hatred of anything Marx adjacent.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the current year
      >people still believe mortals take part in electing anybody into power

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They do, especially at a local level. Get over your victim mentality.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          People really like to ignore how much of a difference local elections can make.

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