Turns out T2 is NOT just a mindless action flick, its way deeper than that. Apologize now.
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Turns out T2 is NOT just a mindless action flick, its way deeper than that. Apologize now.
If that was what they wanted to say, then why didn't they make him a politician?
what's worse carrying out the orders or giving the orders?
carrying out because its some beta cuck shit think about it you are executing the will of an alpha male giving out orders sometimes without your own will youre being bosses around lmaoo
low testosterone type shit
>noooooooo please dont put me into the cuck cage i was just following orders
damn bro the courtrooms poontang levels dryer than a nevada
>nooooooo i was only following orders
this just draws ire and contempt from those passing down judgement. passing the buck is so weak
Forgetting to flush after a bad case of diarrhea and getting a heaping whiff of it the next day when you just woke up and need to shit.
They made the first terminator into a politician
underrated post
Thanks for rating it. Just don't do it too much or it might become overrated
Kek
There's no politician uniform moron. It also wouldn't make sense for them to carry guns and chase people down
Uh yes there is, it's the dark blue dress jacket and trousers and you're only allowed to customise the tie
They should have made him a Hollywood director instead
Geez and here I thought it was because a cop disguise would let you carry a gun in public, question people without raising suspicion, and generally blend into a crowd more effectively than an Austrian bodybuilder.
Shows how much I know!
>a cop disguise would let you carry a gun in public
american civilians already do that
In general? No. And especially not in California. Open-carry isn't allowed in many individual buildings/locations anyway.
Not in CaliWali, you dumb fricking foreigner
Look at these merciless killers.
I always liked the black detective's jacket.
His cosplay game is lit
stop caping for cops, loser
whether you like cops or not it's obvious cameron is talking out of his ass since the series portrays plenty of cops as heroics and self-sacrificing.
>plenty of cops as heroics and self-sacrificing.
They are donut stuffing canon fodder throughout the entire series
Who don't hesitate to try and protect innocent people. At no point do you see a cop doing anything bad in these movies.
A fat donut-eating cop trying to protect an innocent woman is just as heroic as a fit person doing the same.
Based.
If we're referring to the first Terminator, he's attacking them and they're fighting back, that's just self-preservation
>t. fat donut-eating cop
youll never know self sacrifice or duty Black person
lol 'sacrifice'
Cops wouldn't know the meaning of the word
We're talking about the movie here, morono
Are you old enough to even watch T2?
Neither do cops. You're thinking of soldiers.
Black person I would LOVE to see your fat autistuc ass put up with what city cops deal with on a weekly basis. You'd either pull your gun and ventilate the first meth-head that looked like he was coming towards you or crack and flee before that had a chance to happen.
Yeah, there is no way I can put up with that amount of calories that they intake. That would kill me for sure. And to do it on weekly basis? They are true heroes!
lmao city cops will literally watch you get stabbed and do frick all about it.
Cops would be in tears after a week working retail
Nobody demands more respect than those fricks, and nobody deserves to be given it less.
>caping
Black person detected, frick the police, but all criminals are black. ever notice that its the black cops who are the worst?
The uncontrollably emotional verbal spasms of a true 70IQ moron
shoo Black person
anyone who's against cops are the reason why cops are the way they are. nigs who can't just fricking comply.
>just fricking comply
That is the most cucked thing I have ever heard anyone say, maybe try removing your lips from the boot of state power /misc/cel
>hurr durr you're cucked if you don't just fricking do what a cop who's trying to get to the bottom of some bullshit says
i dunno man i don't have anything to fricking hide. if you do, that's your fricking problem. been pulled over several times and never ticketed, been talked to by cops in my neighborhood who were looking for someone and genuinely helped them, became friends with one of them. had to call them on my own father for a domestic dispute because he was high out of his mind trying to fist fight me, and when they arrived, took one look at me and how i was explaining the situation and immediately dragged his fricking moronic ass out of the house and thanked me for being so calm about it.
you might want to re-evaulate what kind of person you are if cops trigger you that much.
>i dunno man I don't have anything to fricking hide.
>If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear
Ok Gobbels
I'm a lawyer so the state recognises I've never committed a crime (and we know you love to submit to the state). The police are an arm of state violence that enforces the will of the capital and nothing more.
You are an unironic submissive cuckold that is willing to give up whatever meager civil liberties you retain to suck their wieners. frick off.
>You are an unironic submissive cuckold that is willing to give up whatever meager civil liberties you retain to suck their wieners.
they're literally just fricking people, man. just like you and me.
what kind of person wants to be a cop? and goes along with all the bullshit they go through on an endless loop? cops are mostly mental midgets on a power trip anyway.
>what kind of person wants to be a cop?
someone who hasn't yet been disillusioned on the idea of right and wrong, someone who wants to uphold the law and better their environment and society, someone who doesn't mind putting themselves in the way of mortal danger to keep the peace, someone who unironically thinks better of their fellow man
i'm not saying every person who wants to be a cop is like this. but there are actually plenty out there who are. I'm sure it hurts several people here to think this rationally.
>being this much of a naive idealistic moron
all the guys i went to school with who became cops where goofy losers i definitely do not want protecting me and upholding the law. give me a fricking break you bootlicking moron.
>MY anecdotal experience says
ok
city cops have it fricking rough as hell, but you will only see shit like that happening in cities. in most other parts of america, cops are pretty much just people who have to deal with the occasional crack head like chauvin, but get to do it in a much more relaxed way since there's a good chance they fricking know every citizen by name out there.
i will say it again, not every cop is a good fricking person. just like how not every fricking person is a good fricking person. i'm not giving any cop the benefit of the doubt by just being a cop. but they are people just like everyone else. appeal to their humanity and you will get incredibly far with any person, not just cops. you literally do not know what just happened to that guy who just pulled you over right before he did. or what the frick is going on with his day. they're not god sent robots, they're not angels, they have the same problems we all do.
just had a sheriff kill himself and his wife after stealing millions of dollars from the county. so many cops where i live have been caught doing scum shit and gotten away with it its unreal. the DA protects them entirely and doesnt give a frick. i mean killing civilians "accidentally" in the course of a pursuit. DUI wrecks resulting in negligent homicides. manipulating scenes. an undercover cop famously ignited a gang war here in the early 90s. the same kind of people who want to be cops are the same kind of blockhead rejects who unironically want to join the army or the marines. losers who spent their whole life wanting power. you think city cops have it bad? city cops are the most absolutely fricked cops youll find. small town cops are almost entirely worthless.
>so many cops where i live have been caught doing scum shit and gotten away with it its unreal.
If he killed himself, how'd he get away with it?
shut up bootlicker. cops are hindering society.
cops are literally preventing Black folk from being exterminated. Black folk need cops so badly its not even funny.
Yeah, society without cops works extremely well. Just look at the CHAZ.
dont criminals always get away with it until they get caught? he killed himself, he faces no charges, he'll serve no time, he lived the high life until the curtain went down. he got away with it.
a few years back there where a couple of sketchy hit and run deaths on the road and the cops covered it up, as it turned out, an off duty cop was drinking with some b***h and she hit and killed someone after they left the bar, he called a buddy who was on duty to fix the scene. our college basketball coach ran over and killed a man on the interstate a few years back and the cops covered that up too. i live in a town where the political machine has been the same family for generations.
>appeal to their humanity
The problem isn't individual cops, it's the system itself that conditions cops to act badly. You cannot appeal to humanity when the system doesn't listen. Cops will literally break a dementia patient's arm because they don't immediately comply (obviously they're confused and thus can't automatically do that, but who cares, RESPECT MUH AUTHORITY!) and laugh about itnon camera and then get their buddies to tell them they did the right thing by manhandling granny so bad she needs medical attention when they're all watching the body cam footage back at the police station.
Those people are less and less every year with all this anti-cop sentiment, and nobody wants to be the next Derek Chauvin thrown under the bus when something pisses off the mob
>Derek Chauvin
>Murder a man you have restrained in handcuffs
>thrown under the bus
loving every laugh
Also, why do conservitards talk like boomers on facebook? the only things missing are the accidental google searches and bible verses.
He restrained a guy that he had called an ambulance for because he suspected drug use, and the guy died while he was focused on repelling a hostile crowd. During his trial, his own department was caught lying about the fact that they taught him to use that restraint technique, and at one point the prosecution's expert witnesses were trying to argue that although they had to admit Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's upper back and not his neck, and though he had fentanyl and meth in his system, that the true cause of his death must've been the exhaust pipe of the car blowing too close to his face when he was on the ground (where he placed himself after thrashing his way out of the police car)
>Murder a man you have restrained in handcuffs
With an approved non-lethal technique that was approved by a black Chief of Police on the fricking 70's and hasn't killed a single person since then, ASIDE from Curious George?
And that was deadlier than the triple-lethal dose of Fentynal he ate just prior?
wasnt floyd already inside the police vehicle and then got out and began resisting because he couldnt breathe because he was overdosing from all that fentanyl he had just consumed?
Yeah Fentanyl was reducing his bodies ability to distribute Oxygen. He also had Covid at the time.
his brain would be panicking because he knew he was suffocating even though his mouth/ throat was never restricted. He had no bruising on his neck or back.
I'd you kill a Black person and don't pose for a camera while standing on his neck you will be fine
Chauvin didn't kill Floyd though. Fentynal did.
Are you just pretending to be moronic
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/21/fact-check-george-floyd-autopsy-ruled-his-death-homicide/7317557002/
>posting msm news sources as if that gives any credibility at all
>the federal government doctors sent in to do the autopsy say it wasnt the fentanyl that killed him
tell me youre a israelite without telling me youre a israelite
Oh wow, USA Today??? No, not JUST USA Today, but their FACT CHECKERS?!?!?!
Now we know what the truth is!!!!!
>the next derek chauvin
qrd?
I'm sure there are good cops out there. But a lot of them end up quitting because they see what a shit show and corrupt institution the police force is, where it's more important to back up your bros in blue than doing your job right. Where accepting that lying, tampering/planting evidence, making up bs charges and stepping on people's rights is told to be normal part of the job. Or then these good cops turn corrupt themselves. The system is fricked and needs to be reformed.
Some thug grabbed my wallet as i took it out to pay a street vendor when i was visiting LA
Before he could even get running, a cop who obvious was suspicious of him and had been following him as the thug was walking around my family grabbed him by his hair and dropped him and told me to grab my wallet while he cuffed the wannabe jogger
Cops can be based, LA is still fricking shit though
>caping
fr fr
When did he say this?
https://www.cbr.com/terminator-not-about-killer-robots-says-james-cameron/
>2021
Post-mortem revisionism at its finest.
Ah so he hopped on the bandwagon. What a homosexual. These people have insane amounts of money and they still feel the need to say this stuff its weird. Hell on my trip home just now a cop was helping someone change a tire on the side of the highway.
lmao
You would never guess this but James Cameron is also a vegan.
Billy Idol was originally meant to be T-1000 (but he got hurt). I wonder if he was meant to be a cop too. It doesn't seem like it'd fit.
Give him a haircut and he'd be fine
Well, I just wonder if Cameron is full of shit and that Billy was just meant to keep his punk aesthetic.. maybe had one scene as a cop.. but when Patrick took over, it got rewritten more thoroughly.
Fate saved the terminator 2 then because this clown pretty boy does not have the look for the t1000 or acting ability. Robert Patrick is irreplaceable.
I honestly can see what he means, but he does a terrible job by specifying cops. He is talking about the Stanford Prison thing where authority eventually begins to hate the people they are supposed to be watching, but its not shown that way with the cops in T2, its shown in the mental hospital staff and their abuse of Sarah.
No anon, he's just talking about cops.
I think I hate cops more than most but that is just the weakest shit ever. Can't believe there's even a single person on Earth dumb enough to think what he's saying is profound enough to be made into a quote.
Also sage all twitter threads.
In fairness, when you deal with the public you have to dissociate in some way in order to keep your sanity. I work a lowly retail job and knowing that I don't care whether these people live or die is exactly the grace which allows me to perform my job consistently. Now imagine a cop, someone doing something that actually matters and which other people strongly dislike Y'know, enforcement. You have to compartmentalize.
>You see, I know how all cops think, die to my psychic-powers.
My favorite thing about these anti-cop ACAB BLM homosexuals is that the SECOND they get a little scared they start squealing and crying for the cops they claim to hate and want defunded to come and protect them with their lives. Kek.
we have cameras everywhere why do we need cops for?
cameras can't break up domestic disturbances
Based.
Blue lives matters cucks are the absolute worst. Cops can break shoot you for answering the door while you're playing Crash Bandicoot and police dickriders will say please and thank you. Cops don't just kill Black folk, they kill everyone for the most petty and moronic reasons thinkable. Cops refused to enter Parkland and that new shooting in Texas to save kids because they were afraid of putting themselves in danger. They tell you to crawl towards them with your pants down then gun you down for no reason. Then they put you on paid leave for the rest of your life.
Blue Lives Matter morons are so fricking cucked that they will accept being shot by the police for no reason just to own the libs.
Have you tried not living in the USA?
>I'm still mad that cop told my mom about the weed in my locker in Eighth Grade
Literally the only two groups that hate or even interact with cops at all on a regular basis are Black folk and rednecks.
>blacks and rednecks are the only ones who hate zogbots
Wrong.
ATF and FBI did nothing wrong.
You don't need to interact with them regularly, you just need to interact with them once to kill you.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-man-killed-police-arizona-cops-respond-complaints-noises-playing-crash-bandicoot
You can be at home playing Crash Bandicoot and they'll still find a way to fricking murder you.
>frick Black folk and frick cops too
Exactly. Frick them both. You don't have to suck cop dick just because you hate Black folk. Cops hate you too, regardless of your skin colour.
Police disproportionately kill white people.
i hope the irony isnt lost on you that the same people who dont think we need guns because the cops have guns are also the same people who want to defund the police.
frick Black folk and frick cops too
You don't understand what the defund slogan means. By defund they are criticising how cities and towns spend like 60% of their entire yearly budget on cops and they will still pull shit like Uvalde and don't do their fricking jobs. And how whenever cops use excessive force and get sued for abuse of power, it's up to the tax payers to pay millions of dollars in damages every year to the victims of police brutality. It's also how we should be spending more of that money on social services, etc. that proactively can help people, instead of what we do today where we've outsourced everything to the cops. A kid acts out in school? We call a cop to come and handcuff a seven year old and take him to the precinct, instead of giving the kid counseling. Someone with dementia causes a scene? Let's call the cop, who either break a granny's arm or shoots them because violence is all they know how to react, instead of de-escalation and calming things down. Etc. etc. etc.
>By defund they are criticising how cities and towns spend like 60% of their entire yearly budget on cops
The more crime there is, the more you need to spend on cops, and anything we try to do to curb crime gets flak because it has a "disproportionate effect on people of color"
> And how whenever cops use excessive force and get sued for abuse of power, it's up to the tax payers to pay millions of dollars in damages every year to the victims of police brutality
Why not campaign against excessive payouts like this instead of "more accountability" that costs more of your tax dollars? Even people upset about George Floyd's death should be more upset that his family was given something like $30 million over it. His black life mattered more monetarily than the lives of my whole white family put together.
Violent crime has drastically declined, congrats on falling for a cop meme that exists to, surprise, get them more money and let them cosplay as fricking soldiers you absolute dupe
>violent crime has drastically declined
>record homicides every year in inner city Black person filled shitholes
sure thing itzak
Like I said, congrats on falling for copaganda, Cletus.
>cops not bothering to make arrests
>repeat offenders released
>DAs ands judges dismissing cases in liberal shit holes
yeah if there arent any arrests being made or crimes charged, it would appear to be going down wouldnt it? kind of like unemployment going down, just because people are no longer collecting it, doesnt take into account those who arent collecting and not going back to work.
>The data isn't real, the gud boi cops are putting their lives on the line every day to protect you, it's actually manipulated but the LIBRUL ELITES
Jesus fricking christ my sides are in orbit. The cops got outed for what they really are in texas, cowards who only exist to enforce state interests and protect their own asses.
>point out how the data is being manipulated
>"hurr durr duh good goy cops"
shut up homosexual, i hate cops and hate Black folk about as much. cops have been outed as statist pigs since the 60s you dumb homosexual.
yes, cops arent doing their job, thats what i was saying.
In San Francisco cops literally slow walk in protest to not liking the DA they just successfully recalled because said DA had the temerity to actually prosecute cops when they did something wrong, and those same cops also refused to work with the DA in completely basic level tasks, to a point where the DA had to go and personally rent Uhauls to move evidence because cops wouldn't bother to show up and do the bare minimum.
>Stops before 2020
>Crime rising on the graph.
>it's a historic low!
>... from the last highest crime spike in '93, when police budgets increased to deal with that high level of crime
What a coincidence, the more you pay police, the lower crime gets
I think he meant violent crime among humans, anon
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/many-americans-are-convinced-crime-is-rising-in-the-u-s-theyre-wrong/
>two years ago during the midst of the most civil unrest in the country since the 70s
>riots had ravaged cities all summer
>abc
>"lol crime is down actually"
stop being such a disingenuous israelite homosexual
>Violent crime has drastically declined
From the last highest crime spike, as police spending has increased. Since the BLM riots, cities that pledged to lower their police funding have seen rises in homicides and sometimes property crimes
>The more crime there is, the more you need to spend on cops
Crime is at a historical low. And pray tell, what did spending nearly half of Uvalde's budget get them again? Oh right, cops sitting on their asses while someone murdered children. Wait, let me correct that, they werr busy handcuffing parents demanding cops to do something while their children were being murdered.
>muh mainstream false flag to push gun control
those cops were ordered to stand down, by their chief, who was quietly appointed to the city council days earlier. crime is at a "historical low" because arrests just arent being made. Black folk are killing each other in the streets, attacking and robbing and murdering random people in broad daylight.
>historic low
Starting from what year?
>And pray tell, what did spending nearly half of Uvalde's budget get them again? Oh right, cops sitting on their asses while someone murdered children
The chief made a dumb choice, that doesn't have anything to do with their budget. Fire the chief and militarize police training so they're more aggressive with threats like that
>Starting from what year?
Going back several decades.
>that doesn't have anything to do with their budge
But you said they need all that money to stop crime, period. But now it's suddenly entirely a personnel problem. Stop moving goal posts.
You're taking one event where the police chief made a bad call and saying that therefore, having adequate resources is useless in every case. If that was the only call the police got that year, that'd be a waste of money, but not when there's a million other calls that came in that they didn't frick up
>Why not campaign against excessive payouts
So your solution to police regularly beating up citizens and causing them unwarranted, unjustified, objectively excessive bodily harm is to not do anything with the root problem, i.e. bad cops, and instead just want to pay less to the VICTIMS? Could you lick the boot some more, they're not shiny enough yet.
>So your solution to police regularly beating up citizens and causing them unwarranted, unjustified, objectively excessive bodily harm is to not do anything with the root problem, i.e. bad cops
Paying $30 million to the victims isn't "rooting out bad cops." You want to defund the police-- how are they supposed to get better cops for less money? Your solution to getting better cops is pay them less and make any interaction they have to deal with more of a personal risk than the paychecks are worth?
>You want to defund the police-- how are they supposed to get better cops for less money
By allocating resources and funds to services that are better equipped to handle certain things we currently outsource to the cops, which take time from cops doing their actual job. Like mentioned above, we currently call cops to arrest small kids who act up in school and have them ziptied and sent to the precinct. Cops shouldn't fricking waste time in doing that type of shit just because a small kid had a temper tantrum at class.
>By allocating resources and funds to services that are better equipped to handle certain things we currently outsource to the cops
The big issue you had was their response to the Texas shooting. Who did you have in mind to send in instead of the cops?
Not that guy.
Given the cops literally, stood there and let children die to cover their own useless fat asses, literally anyone else?
> literally anyone else?
Specifically who?
Those coward cops literally stopped unarmed parents from trying to get in and do anything
Also they almost certainly shot some of those kids themselves once they finally went in
So "literally anybody else" remains a fine answer
>So "literally anybody else" remains a fine answer
Okay, you think the "unarmed parents" should have gone in to confront the armed shooter, and the power of love would have saved the day?
and why do you think they stopped those parents? because they where ordered to. they where ordered not to go into the school. they where ordered to wait.
>cops protect and serve us. they couldn't have saved those kids. just fricking comply ok?
>deflects and moves his goal posts over, and generalizes
woa epic broski you sure got me. resist the police even though you've done literally nothing wrong and will just make it worse! totally not a Black person move.
by pointing out that they didnt go in because they where ordered not to, thus following orders, im illustrating that they DO NOT protect and serve us. it was their cowardice and fear for their lives that made it easy for them to follow those orders instead of just going in their and zapping that moron.
yeah i dont have anything to hide either, have been pulled over and not ticketed and been talked to by cops, etc. etc. and i still dont like cops and pretty much hate them. theyre scum, glorified meter maids. it doesnt matter if you have nothing to hide or not, they can trump shit up, theyre the police.
> it was their cowardice and fear for their lives that made it easy for them to follow those orders instead of just going in their and zapping that moron
Yeah, we should pay them less to make them more likely to throw themselves into danger
lol well they definitely shouldnt be paid more to do nothing while children are murdered. someone who has genuinely joined the police to save lives isnt motivated by money anyway, they would be motivated by what is right and what isnt. i know those kinds of cops dont exist and probably never have, but still.
Maybe we should have sensible guns laws so cops aren't too sacred to do their jobs because they're afraid to confront school shooters in body armour and AR-15s.
Our gun laws are sensible, random psychos aren't. The boston bomber killed dozens of people with a pressure cooker.
>Our gun laws are sensible
if only people with severe mental illnesses where treated properly instead of groomed into being lone wolf shooters, morons like you wouldnt get off on being smug c**ts about everything
You're right, there are far too many restrictions, especially in blue states
Guns are the only thing that alloy any kind of independence. You can't have a free country without them.
>Guns are the only thing that alloy any kind of independence. You can't have a free country without them.
This is doubly funny because
1) no they don't
2) you don't have a free country
>no they dont
the first thing a fledgling dictatorship does is disarm the populace so the only people with weapons are their jackboot thugs and mentally ill criminals. americans own the vast majority of the guns and ammo in the world and have an intimate knowledge of their home terrain. thats the main reason they want to scare us into giving up our weapons voluntarily rather than having to come and take them
>you dont have a free country
more free than UK, canada, australia, new zealand and literally any other country still enforcing lockdowns and mask mandates and forced quarantines on its citizens
So free almost 50% of conservatives unironically now say children dying in school shootings is just normal part of life we need to accept. Because FREEDOM.
Wouldn't it be more effective to deal with the root causes of what's making people do mass shootings (what, twice a year?) rather than stripping every citizen of their right to own a firearm and giving even more control the government?
Your guns are not keeping you from being controlled by your government. Your freedom is what they allow and absolutely not a thing more.
If you dared take up arms against injustice, you would be killed where you stand, in an instant. It is literally settled law now that a cop can murder you and figure out the details later.
For fricks sake in the same month that a dozen kids need to be fed to the blood god to preserve freedom the right are screeching that new laws to project judges from protestors aren't being passed fast enough
just tells us where your from thats so much better than the US. surely wherever that is a gun free and crime free utopia.
>Um freedom is BAD because you already don't have it or something, K?
Frick off you derranged troony. Your opinion on/lies about what rightwingers say/believe is worthless. You cry about muh kids while supporting abortion of half of them and the grooming/molestation of the other half at Drag Queen Story Time.
>defeatist bootlicking shill poster
go play in traffic
>Has no idea how tyranny works.
Are you trying to make the silly "an AR-15 won't beat a tank" argument?
Healthcare or mental health won't do shit. Funding especially won't do shit.
This is a cultural problem. We need communities of people that care for each other, we need fathers in homes, we need purpose in life, and we need an economy and dating scene that doesn't make young adults want to immediately give up on life.
Rather than treating poor mental health, why not prevent poor mental health from occuring.
Conservatives can talk about mental health all they want but Republicans will never fund to give better healthcare to Americans. Republicans in red states actively refuse to expand Medicare even though the federal government would subsidise it. Greg Abbot literally cut mental healthcare funding before Uvalde happened.
>muh red vs blue
as long as morons like you keep pretending there is a good team and a bad team, treating politics like a fricking sportsball game, we are eternally fricked. theyre two arms both attached to the same torso. and voting wont change shit either. our political system has failed us. democracy is a failed experiment.
The blue team actively wants to give people better healthcare. This is a fact.
The red team refuses to even humor the idea and spends over a decade trying to get rid of any healthcare reform that gets instituted by blue team, WITHOUT offering anything to replace it with. This is a fact too.
And that was AFTER, may I remind you, the blue team bended over backwards in trying to compromise and water it down as possible to get any bipartisan support. And let's also keep in mind the healthcare reform that blue team eventually passed is literally based on a CONSERVATIVE THINK TANK idea for healthcare reform. But red team blindly hates it anyway because blue team passed it.
Red and blue team may be shit on many ways but your kind of stupid both sideism where nothing can be done is utter bullshit when talking about specific issues. Republicans now always whine about mental health to distract you after mass shootings and then do nothing to give people mental healthcare. Blues try to do healthcare even when there are no recent mass shootings and get nothing done because they can't get enough red team support to pass anything in the senate due to the required 60 votes bar.
>The blue team actively wants to give people better healthcare.
Both teams WANT that. Blue Team is just willing to bankrupt everyone for it, doesn't know how to actually ensure the quality of what they promise, and will funnel they cash they forcibly take from you into unrelated things.
>Both teams WANT that.
No they don't. They objectively, actively do not want that.
You're right, Republicans are just sadistic Bond-tier supervillains who literally drink the tears of children for fun. Just like Family Guy said.
Unironically true.
Like they do this shit on camera now, no shame, they're not hiding it.
mitch mcconnell is the same species of reptillian shapeshifter as pelosi, hillary, schumer, nadler, and so on and so on. the political elite are all inhuman israelite demons.
Naw, you're just delusional and have a persecution-complex.
Mitch McConnell literally was on TV laughing about how he is blocking covid relief in 2020.
No he wasn't.
Democrats literally blocked Covid relief bills until they became "diverse" if enough. This was AFTER they let Covid into the country by blocking travel-bans, BTW.
remember in february 2020 when they said COVID was totally not a big deal at all and to go out to your local chinatown and celebrate the chinese new year?
And then they said Trump "downplayed" the virus. Kek.
McConnell insisted that first they do a bill that gives relief to corporations and only after that can you do one for ordinary people. Because the republicans still controlled the senate, dems stupidily trusted McConnell on his word that the second bill would get a vote, and thus voted for corporate relief, after which McCoywent went LOL no relief for people and refused to bring it to vote. And it was only just before the election that he changed his mind because he thought its way too tight of a racr and maybe it would help give Trump more votes, at which point Pelosi did the politically savvy thing that I personally don't agree with morally and didn't let McConnell get that win.
Mitch McConnell is a fricking cartoon supervillain who fricks American people over all the time. He literally brags about it.
>McConnell insisted that first they do a bill that gives relief to corporations and only after that can you do one for ordinary people.
Yes? The corporations are largely responsible for much of the "relief" being provided, dipshit. Corpos are who makes the medicine, the food, the distribution methods, etc. Don't you homosexuals literally worship Pfizer for making your jabs? Why does your love or hate for corpos wax and wane with convenience?
And then McConnell refused to allow any relief on American people and laughed about it, you fricking dyslexic idiot. That was the point. He threw money at corporations and then gleefully told American public to go frick itself, risk covid and work, plebs.
You're projecting morals and motivations to fit your narrative and it's fricking hilarious.
the good guys want to spend healthcare money on transgenderism and abortions, they dont care about actually helping people. theyre all compromised by lobbyists. the problem is the blue team pretends they are the good guys because they spin such pretty lovely lies and then when it comes to action they get nothing done and blame it on the bad guys.
you are either a homosexual, a israelite or a woman. at any rate, your opinions are cucked, pozzed and worthless. my assertion that both sides are shitty piles of garbage is an accurate assessment.
>Blue teams wants money for x and y healthcare procedures
>WELL I DON'T LIKE X AND Y SO FRICK YOU, BLUE TEAM SUCKS, TAKE THAT!
What a compelling argument.
>thinks transgender experiments on children and abortion are viable things to be spending federal money on let alone tax dollars on
>that post formatting
go back to r e d d i t homosexual
Yes? It actually is.
People are right to it want anything to do with you if in addition to the supposedly "noble" motivations you have you're going to actively use those resources for subversive, caustic or outright evil purposes as well.
Nobody's going to contribute to a charity for "Cancer Research and Stepping on Kittens" just because they like cancer research. They will INSTEAD give those funds to a charity only dedicated to "Cancer Research" and nothing else, dipshit.
Typical weasely Leftist tactics: holding improving healthcare hostage and demanding that we can't get it until we ALSO fund abortions and sex-changes, then crying that it's your opposition's fault when nobody wants to play ball.
this thing, whatever it is that it is posting, is posting from the disingenuous standpoint that the blue team are the good guys, playing stupid like he doesnt know whats going on. like all politicians arent our enemies, like some of them are on our side and oh wouldnt you know it, its his favorite pozzed globo homosexual lobbyist own corporate shills
>and demanding that we can't get it until we ALSO fund abortions and sex-changes
You're being a dishonest fricking liar. Republicans don't want to do anything about healthcare except gut it and all you can do is turn and whine that democrats want to do better healthcare than republicans because you get triggered over bullshit moral grounds, and completely ignore that FEDERAL MONEY CANNOT BE USED FOR ABORTIONS YOU STUPID FRICK. And trans surgeries are such a drop in the bucket that it just makes you even more of a disingenuous butthole to try frame everything around that.
See
Again.
>that FEDERAL MONEY CANNOT BE USED FOR ABORTIONS
He literally JUST explained how it can and is used for that via loopholes. Actually it's barely even a "loophole". It's a transparent, gaping failing that was likely intentional for that very reason.
>omg we only perform SOME abortions with fed funds!!!
>omg we only perform SOME child sex-changes with fed funds!!!
>omg we didn't burn the WHOLE city down!!! just part of it!!!
I love how Leftshits think this is a valid argument. Although I guess dishonesty through downplaying is better than dishonesty through flat, delusional denial.
It goes beyond "not liking" it, homosexual. Your modern Leftnut shit is outright evil.
Are you going to contribute to the "Lynch Black folk" fund?
>The red team refuses to even humor the idea and spends over a decade trying to get rid of any healthcare reform that gets instituted by blue team, WITHOUT offering anything to replace it with.
Considering every change"blue team" has made to healthcare since the good old days before it was broken has been a big, expensive disaster that made Healthcare measurably worse, sounds like "red team" was on the right track.
Based "red team" protecting us from "blue team" ruining things even harder than they did.
>before it was broken
Before Obamacare the insurance companies would deny you insurance for preexisting conditions they found and would try to frick you over via refusing to pay by claiming your problem was a preexisting condition. Obamacare has flaws but to pretend everything was better when less people could get health insurance and you could get fricked over for no fault of your own even if you had insurance is laughable and ahistoric.
Before Obamacare most people could afford healthcare.
Maybe they'd be more generous if you didn't keep taking what money you get and spending it on abortions and sex-changes? Or of you just stopped letting Illegal Immigrants use the service.
yeah wasting more money on mental health isnt going to do a damn thing until the 4 profit big pharma lobbyist industry is taken out, but thatll never happen. so as long as the mental institutions and asylums stay closed and the resources are instead devoted to abortions and sex changes, things are going to be truly fricked so long as we pretend the elephant in the room isnt the problem and try and frame something else, that isnt the problem, as the problem.
You literally cannot use federal funding for abortions. You're doing nothing but obfuscating the facts.
Yes, because if there's one thing Democrats do it's follow the rules.
>Recieve Federal money
>"Can't use it for Abortions"
>spend the Fed money on sometging ekse you needed anyway, saving money
>then spend that money saved on Abortions
>loophole :^)
The only way to actually enforce this rule is for organizations that receive government funds to NOT provide Abortions, but leftists have fought that tooth and nail because just like everything they do it's completely reliant on stealing my tax-money to fund it.
Conservatives keep lying about this and keep getting proven wrong time and time again. You cannot use federal money on abortions. That's the law. If they were breaking the law and doing that anyway it would be easy to prove.
Abortions are also a very tiny percentage of the overall services Planned Parenthood provide to people every year. You're just an anti-abortion fundamentalist foaming from the mouth.
you act like they cant just do whatever they want and then lie to us about whats going on, which weve caught them doing over and over and over again.
Then why don't buttholes like you prove it if it's so easy? Oh right, because you're full of shit.
Lol I outright explained how they can and DO loophole their way around that, homosexual. You didn't counter-argue; you literally just insipidly repeated your original statement, which I ALREADY proved incorrect.
If it's so important to you why aren't you willing to just NOT have fed-funded places performing abortions? Its that simple. If the money "isn't going to abortions" anyway then it shouldn't be a problem in the first place. The answer is that you KNOW I am right. You're a weasely little brainwashed abortion-loving shit that gets off on the idea of taking money God-fearing Christians made and using it for evil shit against their will or consent like killing babies.
You're only in whiner-mode because you currently are not getting your way. If you WERE getting your way you would instead be in gloat-mode and wouldn't bother lying and you'd just be going "lol republitards are having their money fund abortions and there's NOTHING they can do about it but whine about it on Cinemaphile. seethe more. :^) work harder, i need to kill more kids lol".
hes arguing in bad faith and disingenuously. hes like a step above pretending to be a moron, a very small step, but one none the less.
>Y DONT U DO SOMETHIN ABOUT IT PUSSY
lol wait you dont think the government lies about its infinitely spiraling budget? i dont have to prove that the government lies and mishandles tax dollars, the government readily admits to it.
Money is fungible by nature, giving someone money and telling them not to spend *this* money on something (but not the other money they already have) is just a way to save face.
>Abortions are also a very tiny percentage of the overall services Planned Parenthood provide to people every year.
If McDonald's sold hamburgers 364 days out of the year, and then one day a year they lured homeless people in and murdered them in cold blood just for funsies, would you be fine with patronizing McDonald's on the logic that murdering hobos in cold blood was "a very tiny percentage of the overall activities McDonald's engages in every year"?
if the hobos were still in the womb, sure.
Abortion is healthcare procedure, sweetie. If abortion was entirely illegal, you couldn't save the mother during ectopic pregnancy for example because the procedure to remove the fetus is abortion and you have to wait till you can say it's dead before you can do anything, otherwise you'll risk getting sued and going to prison. Hell, women having miscarriages are already being turned away because doctors are afraid they'll be accused of helping an abortion take place. You anti-abortion fundamentalist are so narrow minded about what you cause with abortion bans and care nothing about the deaths it will inevitably cause.
>Abortion is healthcare procedure
Abortion is infanticide that Feminists use in lieu of a condom, which they denied for decades and recently started just outright admitting to.
fetuses arent infants, cletus.
>WAAAAAH, MOOOOOOMS, I CANNOT MURDER CHILDREN I AM LIKE SO OPPRESSED RIGHT NOW
>th-think of the child!
>lmao who gives a frick if she cant afford it she should have worn a condom lmaooo
and seeds arent trees.
seeds arent impregnated with sperm you moron, do you even think?
>she cant afford it
Keeping your legs together is free. You proxy Venezuelans love free.
of course it's easy for you to suggest people never have sex you dweeb lmao
I just find it easy to suggest that 'people' should stop killing children. Simple thing.
Murder is very serious crime in majority of societies, except in Leftistan apparently.
fetuses arent children. and funny how you pretend to care about nuh cheeldren when theyre in the womb but frick them if some psycho decides to mow them down with a rifle, right? fricking homosexual.
yes, anon normal well adjusted people have sex.
Let's compromise, compromise is what societies are built on - right wing parents have children, left wing parents have fetuses, just like them.
>fetuses arent children.
I'm the way a "baby" "isnt a child". It's semantics. A fetus is a stage of life based on age just like "infant", "toddler", "child", etc.
But that's not why you bring it up. You bring it up to imply a distinction and deny it's as valid a human as an "infant", because you don't want to admit that abortion is infanticide. You have to dehumanizev the target to assuage your guilt and everyone else's. Same as nazis calling israelites "vermin", Tutsis calling Hutus "wienerroaches", etc.
if its not valid outside the womb it isnt valid lol sorry buddy.
If it isn't completely developed, then it isn't really human. Feel free to kill any non adult, lol.
They arent "valid outside the womb" until born. Are you unironically supporting abortion as late as the week before the due date oh, maybe even the day before for that matter?
Also, since when is being on life-support valid grounds for somebody not being human and okay to kill? A comatose patient can't survive without his life-support. I guess killing them is not murder either.
lol one week old fetuses arent valid outside the room moron.
Reading Comprehension, Black person.
comprehend what? you put words in my mouth fricktard. fetuses are not viable outside of the womb.
>le virgim!!!1! xD
Typical.
Why do you even care about abortion? Your axe-wound isn't a "vegana". You can't get pregnant because you aren't a woman and never will be.
>PAY FOR THE KIDS I FART OUT, OR I WILL KIIIIIIIILL THEEEEEEEEEEM
Are Democrats literally just demons at this point?
>toddlers aren't babies
>six-year-olds aren't five-year-olds
you agree with the death sentence then? surely a man who rapes a woman should be put to death if the child is aborted
You don't get to decide, prostitute.
Use a condom
>condoms work 100% of the time
>birth control works 100% of the time
moron.
Use the pill AND the condom, prostitute
>Use the pill AND the condom, prostitute
You must have missed the part where as soon as the Roe v Wade leak happened, Republicans started slipping and admitting they wanted to make those illegal too
First of a that didn't happen. Second of all you're justifying your real actions and beliefs with a scenario that is only inside your head.
It did happen. They're even openly talking about potential federal ban on abortion. Texas politicians want to ban ectopic pregnancy abortions. If you don't know what that means, it's the embryo developing outside of the womb, i.e. it literally cannot develop to a baby and be born, it is 100% going to die and actively dangers the mother's life. People want to ban terminating that pregnancy. As well as control where pregnant women travel, so that they can't have an abortion in another state/country. These are exactly what conservatives want because it's about control over women's bodies, not about muh sanctity of life.
>literally cannot develop to a baby
Sounds like ideal DNC voter.
>I cannot kill people, that means state controls my body.
I thought you fetuses love state control.
The state already prosecutes and sentences women to prison for manslaughter after they miscarry.
Based. Now to sentence every woman who goes through abortion for murder.
>They're even openly talking about potential federal ban on abortion.
Youbsaid they were going to ban birth-control pills and condoms, not abortion.
But if that IS the case, based. Abortion has no place in a First World Country.
>First of a that didn't happen.
Why do you idiotically lie in easily disproven ways when they happily do this shit on the record?
https://www.salon.com/2022/05/21/ban-all-birth-control-says-endorsed-candidate_partner/
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article261207007.html
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/blackburn-denounces-supreme-court-contraception-ruling-1965-rcna20862
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-lawmakers-advance-bill-classify-abortion-homicide-rcna27594
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/05/19/some-states-already-are-targeting-birth-control
>Salon
Holy shit an unironic purple haired communist.
>First link is fricking Salon
Holy shit, can't make this shit up.
>Abortions are also a very tiny percentage of the overall services Planned Parenthood provide to people every year.
If they want ANY federal funding it should be ZERO percent of the overall services they provide. :^)
So you want to deny any healthcare over a tiny thing you disagree with, even though abortion is sometimes necessary to save the mother. But it's the Dems who are monsters for wanting better healthcare, not Republicans who want to gut healthcare entirely. Hypocrisy at its best.
If YOU cared about healthcare and not just getting fed-funded abortions you would have already agreed to it you fricking snake.
You'll get exactly $0 from me and everyone else like me until ZERO funds are going towards abortions, sex-changes or illegal immigrants. Deal with it.
But you don't care about "healthcare", you just love abortions, sex-changes and illegal immigrants and use "healthcare" as a facade over it.
One issue voters like you doing moral grandstanding about not allowing millions of people get better healthcare purely out of blind ideology is sick. You think your feelings matter more than people's health.
Not him, but you're asking me to fund your healthcare and everyone else's including the million-odd illegal Democrats that come across an open border every year. Get your hand out of my pocket Black person.
>One issue voters like you doing moral grandstanding about not allowing millions of people get better healthcare purely out of blind ideology is sick.
But it's you that's doing that.
Again, ALL you'd have to do is give up funding going towards abortions and people would be more on board with you. But you won't agree to that, DESPITE claiming that "no federal funds go to abortions" anyway.
You care more about getting abortions state-funded than you do about "saving lives", kek.
The gall of you accusing anyone else of "moral grandstanding", kek. The irony.
They do not fund abortions. How many times does this have to be told to you. It is already illegal to use federal funds for abortions. This is a made up non-issue. It's like talking to a wall, Jesus Christ.
Giving federal funding to the people performing abortions is funding abortions. This has been explained to you MULTIPLE times.
Money is fungible. Fed funds contribute to their total budget. There is zero distinction between whether the dollar funding the abortions came from the Fed or otherwise with in their total budget. A dollar is a dollar.
I don't know why I am explaining it. I don't think that you're confused by this concept. I think you understand it perfectly well. What you are doing is playing dumb in order to avoid admitting what we both know is true. I'd love to assume but you are just too stupid to actually understand the concept, but what we're seeing here may not be clinical moronation but instead just dishonesty and malice.
The issue here is is that what is technically written in the law works as an exceedingly flimsy deflection to avoid admitting what you know is true. You know how this works and how that law does not prevent federal funds from going towards abortion. But you desperately cling to it and champion it over and over again despite it being debunked over and over again in this very thread, because it is literally the only defense you have.
You're either counting on being able to just gaslight people into not pursuing or challenging your flimdy statement simply by repeating it over and over again that you yourself know is not convincing, or you were just too stupid to bother coming up with additional arguments when they do challenge it.
>Giving federal funding to the people performing abortions is funding abortions.
It is not. Abortion is just one service of numerous others that planned parenthood provides and it's very small part of their overall operation. All federal money is spent on that other shit, they have to get private donations to fund abortions. No money from the government can be used to abortions. You're being an insane absolutist who wants to deny ANY medical help because you don't like abortion because a building where federally funded healthcare happens also has independently funded abortion service. Fundamentalist thinking like that is impractical and absolutely crazy way to operate in life.
You're literally just repeating your same debunked points again.
There is no way to distinguish finding in a total budget. Funding is funding.
Again, you are either staggeringly stupid or just staggeringly dishonest. Either way your vote shouldn't count anywhere near as mine.
>There is no way to distinguish finding in a total budget. Funding is funding.
Planned parenthood gets audited every single year where they have to prove they do not allocate federal funds for abortions. All you do is scream NO IT TOTALLY IS FUNDING ABORTION BECAUSE LOOPHOLE even though that does not happen.
Audits just make sure it's not a DIRECT transfer of funds, moron. It's still indirect.
>You have $5
>Your Mom gives tells you to "go to the store and buy a bag of apples for $5, DO NOT SPEND MY MONEY ON CANDY". She then gives you an additional five dollars.
>You spend "her money" on the apples, which allows you to spend "the other money" on $5 worth of candy, which you wouldn't have been able to do IF SHE HADN'T GIVEN YOU AN ADDITIONAL $5
How are you not getting this? This is basic kid stuff.
Frick you, Abortionist. Anybody bending over backwards THIS FAR for baby-killing is NOT a dispassionate, rational third-party "moderate". You're one of their zealots making "Abortion Cakes" and posting it on social-media.
That whole analogue makes no sense because they have to prove every dollar used for abortion comes elsewhere. If they didn't have that outside money for it they couldn't do abortions at all because the entire places would lose all federal funding immediately after the next audit if they used federal dollars. You're crying that federal money and outside donations happen to finance the same office space. Fundamentalist insane hairsplitting bullshit.
Every dollar you get for non-abortion-related services frees a dollar you otherwise wouldn't have for abortion, moron. It's a collective "budget".
You're not winning this futile argument and you are not having me fund your abortions. Deal with it.
And they have to constantly prove no federal money is ever put to abortions, which is illegal of them to do. If they didn't have outside fundraising for abortions they wouldn't do them at all. Period. Federal money operates every single other thing PP does. They do not mix like you want to say they do outside of being part of the overall budget, which again is audited and they have to show federal money doesn't touch an aborted fetus. If it did they would be in big trouble.
I am NOT paying for your abortions.
I am NOT paying for your sex-changes.
I am NOT paying for your illegal immigrants that you use to subvert Democracy and replace me and my family.
Deal.
With.
It.
Apparently YOUR feelings on free money going to these things matters more to you than better healthcare.
>So you want to deny any healthcare
No, I'm denying you MY money to fund it you histrionic frick.
Thanks for proving how you just want to deny people health services.
I am not denying you anything - open your wallet, buy any healthcare you want, simple as.
Point went CLEAR over your head, low-IQ Bern-victim.
>But it's the Dems who are monsters for wanting better healthcare
I can get any healthcare I want, especially if leftards aren't involved in it. Stop grooming and killing kids for five seconds, you'll see you feel better.
>just making shit up now
This is why nobody cares what your opinion is either way.
>muh kids
yeah if only glowBlack folk didnt groom mentally ill rejects to shoot up schools instead of killing themselves to try and scare morons and mothers into shaming everyone else into giving up their guns.
now go ahead and tell us from which cucked third world shithole do you hail?
prolly explains how he was seeing his momma too, dude was hallucinating high as a fricking kite on deaths door.
in a non mongrel non pozzed pure white society cops are worthless. they literally exist solely to protect Black person criminals.
>children dying in school shootings is just normal
It's "normal" because our culture is at a point where it does something to children that make them want to kill and harm their fellow peers.
We have always been allowed to own guns. School shootings are a recent phenomenon driven by changes in our culture.
So let's address what it is that causes one child to want to kill another child.
There are many different ways of killing people. Banning one method just means people will use the second.
no one is saying people will stop killing altogether but can you at least admit that it would be harder to kill 20 something people armed with just a knife than a military grade fire arm.
A handgun can kill 20 people just as easily.
Or you can just jump in a car and mow down 20 people. Should we can cars too?
More people died from stabbings in London than died in New York for a short while. Access to guns has nothing to do with how many people die.
>the country eith the most guns per capita also has the most gun deaths per capital
>obviously there is no coloration
But it's not?
Look at the homicide rates of Mexico, our next door neighbor, for example.
I specifically said a knife, not a handgun. Will you admit that it would be much harder to kill many people with only a knife than a gun?
You specifically said military-grade firearms, which excludes the AR-15 and handguns.
As I said above, there are more murders in London (a place without guns) than in New York (a place with guns). When does it become harder to kill people with guns than with knives? At least knives are fricking silent and make it easier to get away with.
Anon my point is that its much harder to spree kill people with a knife than a gun. that's all. enough with the mental gymnastics and semantic frickery.
>Anon my point is that its much harder to spree kill people with a knife than a gun.
What the frick kind of point is that then?
Yeah, it's totally true I guess. But how is that little factoid relevant to anything being discussed? We don't live in a world where only knives are available and guns, explosives, etc. were never invented. How is the obvious fact that mass murder is easier with guns and bombs than it is with a kitchen-knife relevant to anything?
because you said even if guns were removed people would still find ways to kill others. my point is that while that is true it would be significantly more difficult to do so without spraying into crowds of people. and im not talking about killing people in isolated incidents or w.e, im talking about mass killings. anyways, gun reform would be just one piece of the puzzle.
>anyways, gun reform would be just one piece of the puzzle.
True, the best way to gun reform is to move all leftoids to Venezuela, China, Russia or some other of their paradises.
>my point is that while that is true it would be significantly more difficult to do so without spraying into crowds of people.
But that's wrong. It wouldn't be easier because knives aren't their ONLY recourse.
As was explained to you they instead use explosives, vehicles, OR they just obtain the firearms illegally since people planning a massacre don't give a shit what's "legal", or "easy".
But we would have way less gun deaths that tend to be far more lethal than knives and we already do a lot to prevent explosive use and if cars turn into lethal killing instruments like you seem to want to imply then we can do measures ro address that, since we already regulate who gets to drive or rent a car.
>But we would have way less gun deaths
And way more stabbing/bludgeoning deaths, which ALREADY kill more people in total than AR-15's could dream of.
You wpuld also have way more deaths of wives and kids during home invasions, women being stabbed to death after being raped, clerks and store owners shot dead during robberies, etc., because those law-abiding citizens weren't allowed to defend themselves.
>that tend to be far more lethal than knives
Are They? Be specific. By what percent? Knives were STILL the most common premeditated murder weapon last I checked.
Even of what you're saying WE'RE true it's still a matter of benefit vs. drawback. I'm not interested in repealing a basic, important civil liberty garunteed by this country's founders AND accepting a 5%-20% increase in defenseless victims being murdered and higher crime-rates (rape, robbery, etc.) and bolder criminals due to them no longer fearing victims being armed just so we can have a 5% reduction is suicides (specifically gin-based ones, other methods increase) and a 1% reduction in spree-killings.
Having a mental health check as part of gun ownership does not prevent owning a hand gun. You love these fearmongering tactics where any regulation means suddenly nobody had guns anymore. You're being dishonest on purpose instead of addressing actual facts about what is even being proposed.
>Having a mental health check as part of gun ownership does not prevent owning a hand gun.
>Leftcucks and their politicians will inevitably get to influence these and later weasel their way into fully deciding them in some States, if not at a Federal level
>"Uh oh! Looks like you said the N-word on the Internet at some point, according to our records. Sorry, you're not 'mentally sound' enough yo be trusted with a firearm!"
>"Uh oh! Looks like you attended a political ralley for a movement/politician we don't like, according to our records. Sorry, you're not 'mentally sound' enough to be trusted with a firearm!"
>my point is that while that is true it would be significantly more difficult to do so without spraying into crowds of people
People spraying into crowds is a fraction of a fraction of the total number of people murdered or killed each year.
What is your goal here if not to make no impact on the world?
There are plenty of other ways to kill large numbers of people, like getting into a car and driving people over.
The problem is people wanting to kill people, not what they choose to do so with.
to lower or eliminate gun deaths. specifically mass shootings. no one is seeking to build a utopia but if there is an obvious issue in our society then we should work towards fixing it.
>we should work towards fixing it.
I already proposed a solution perfect for everybody here
>to lower or eliminate gun deaths
Which is just replaced with knife or car or explosive deaths. You don't accomplish anything.
>no one is seeking to build a utopia but if there is an obvious issue in our society then we should work towards fixing it.
Yes, the problem is people wanting to kill other people. That is the issue we need to solve. The method they choose is irrelevant.
>You don't accomplish anything.
you eliminate gun deaths, thats the point. how is that difficult for you to understand. guns are a major factor in spree kills. it makes sense to have tighter regulation.
>you eliminate gun deaths, thats the point.
Who cares how people die when the total number of people die all the same?
>you eliminate gun deaths, thats the point.
Apparently so. You're unironically the cartoon character your opposition mocks you as.
>Gun deaths are down.
>Yeah but stabbing and bludgeoning deaths increased. Total deaths stayed the same and are now HIGHER than before the gun-ban. We accomplished nothing.
>YES BUT GUN DEATHS ARE DOWN, CHUD. THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT.
Yes i think getting rid of potential mass murders would benefit people.
Zoom, STRAIGHT over your head.
Guns were not a problem until 40-50 years ago and they aren't the problem now and banning them now consequently won't fix the problem. The problem is whatever has changed in the last 40-50 years in America.
Leftists don't like this fact because "what has changed in the last 40-50 years in America" is a list MOSTLY composed of things they implemented and are dogmatically protective of against any scrutiny and they get very uncomfortable even discussing it.
yeah dude that kid shot up the super market in buffalo because of leftist ideology. same with dylan roof right? he was a troony loving commie, right?
I like how you cherrypick the two guys that WEREN'T literally Registered Democrats, kek.
At least you were smart enough to skip "LE POL FACE"-kid, i.e. the Capitalism-hating half-israelite half-Hispanic raised by a New Age Kabbalist anti-Christian single father that LeftyMisc unironically chose to be their inspiration for the only "meme" they ever produced, attacking people for being pro-capitalist, white, Christian, etc.
so my two examples vs your one is cherry picking? lmaaaao yeah ok nerd.
>two examples vs. almost every other instance that has ever occurred
>who was the Toledo shooter
>who was the Ohio shooter
>who was the Pulse Nightclub shooter
>who was the Senate Baseball Game shooter
>who was Omar Thorton
>who were the San Bernidino shooters
>who was the YouTube HQ shooter
>who was the BLM turd that shot eight cops
>who was the Fort Hood shooter
>who were the Summer of Terror 2020 rioters
>who was the black guy that ran over 50 white kids at a Christmas parade
This shit ain't new either.
>who is Mark Essex
>who is Weather Underground
>who is May 13th
>who is Baader Meinhof
Fun fact: did you know that when your grifter overlords give you stats on "right wing violence", they include massacres comitted Muslims allied with ISIS as well has hate-crimes against gays & trannies perpetrated by Black Nationalists and Black Identitarians? Sometimes they even include people rightfully defending themselves against Lefty terrorist attackers like Rittenhouse. :3
He's not saying leftists shot up people, he's saying the problems that cause people to shoot each other are cultural changes spearheaded by the left.
Well, in justice, they do have more Muslims.
>at least admit that it would be harder to kill 20 something people armed with just a knife
Yeah but in countries where it's harder or outright illegal to obtain a firearm they don't use "knives". They use explosives. They use vehicle-ramming. Or they just get the guns illegally.
Face it man. You may as well be a fricking Nork for how accepting of propaganda your addled brain is.
Worse, because you're in a position to see it for what it is, but still continue believing it anyway.
>DUDE UR FALLING FOR PROPAGANDA
Meanwhile you are demanding that civil liberties be removed because Biden paid a Hollywood Actor to get on a stage and cry.
please, im sure whatever shit hole you are from is worse than Nork. what sort of propaganda am i accepting? the pro gun propaganda? as opposed to the anti white propaganda?
They are, just don't look at the demographics breaking them.
>trained by right wing paramilitary nut jobs to stand on bridges and LARP as batman
>the second they encounter a suspect with the possibility of fighting back they stand outside and let children die while they call the good guy cops begging them to save their lives.
They want to privilege of being able to carry out stat enforced violence, but only against people who won't or can't fight back. Their pay has nothing to do with it.
>Those coward cops literally stopped unarmed parents from trying to get in and do anything
That's literally law/protocol you dipshit. You don't let confused, emotional untrained civilians waltz into a hostage/shooter situation.
Lol this is why you're an unemployed NEET and not a SWAT Director.
idk, if i was one of those cops im taking my vest and my carbine and im going in there and killing that homosexual before he kills all those kids, idgaf what my fat Hispanic superior says
The national guard, the feds (of any stripe), bounty hunters, angry parents (it's texas they have guns).
More's the point I don't know why you think it's some gotcha that the cops, who historically have a monopoly on state violence at the local level wouldn't allow alternative groups to exist. The argument here is the cops were comically ineffective at their supposed job and look like absolute cowardly tools (because they are). We're not going to reframe the issue in that someone should have had some alternative group ready to go presupposing the failure of the cops when there is no legislative will to change the system that benefits legislators.
>The national guard, the feds
Hahahahaha, oh yeah that'll save money
>bounty hunters, angry parents (it's texas they have guns).
So you'd rather go to a system of mercenaries and vigilantes, which *scrolls up* is supposed to lead to less excess force and abuse of power? Less regulations and more passionate people would lead to that? Last time, that lead to lynching
You Know I preempted your pathetic nonargument goal post shifting and you still tried it.
You are a failed propagandist and a prostitute of the government. jump off a bridge.
Bad reply
they didnt decide to stand around and do nothing, that was the order from the fat Black person police chief turned city councilor. im not saying cops arent cowardly tubs of shit, they are, but that was the directive. remember the two cops who ran into the parkland school? they where the shooters.
That is an actual situation where the cops actually should handle. That's what they're there for.
But rather than doing anything about the shooter for over an hour they sat on their asses and instead handcuffed parents. And now the cops keep lying and changing their story every day while trying to blame everyone else but themselves. They're even harassing those parents who publicly talk about how badly cops mishandled the situation by threatening them with "bitch, you better shut the frick up, you're still under probation, it'd be too bad if we had to lock you up". This is the cops you blindly defend and refuse to support reforming.
Okay, you don't like the way the hispanic police chief handled the situation. How do you think the solution is "defund the police" instead of fire the chief and get someone else in?
When a doctor fails to save a life in a hospital, do you demand the hospital get its funding slashed?
Defund movement addresses larger systematic issues with the cops and how they operate.It cannot be applied to every cherrypicked example, especially not Uvalde shooting which is a situation that should be left to the cops but they completely failed to do their jobs, which goes to show that cops frick up and lie all the time but you don't want to axonowyit or that cops need better accountability and reforms to stop shit like this from happening. Your side's solution to just throw more money at them didn't and wouldn't have solved Ulvalde either. Ulvalde already spends 40% of their budget on police and has a SWAT unit, AND it's basic procedure to go in immediately instead of waiting for back up, but they failed to do that, so crying about cops not having enough money to do their job is bs excuse to dismiss people demanding cops to do their jobs better and get held accountable when they do something wrong.
>Defund movement addresses larger systematic issues with the cops and how they operate.
Lol no it doesn't. It was literally just an emotional knee-jerk "retaliation" from Leftists, because in their caveman brain "blue man kill George Floyd, mean blue man RACIST! blue man no get money to do job! Instead money for abortion and child sex-changes!".
This of course ignores that not only are cops collectively responsible for anything (much less a criminal OD'ing on Fentynal), but they do not pocket that money. That money translates to there physical and logistical ability to extend their reach and do their job more efficiently. This is why every city that tried this "Defund the police" hysteria crap was inundated with a mass of robbery, rape and murder and ultimately had to beg the police to come back. Kek.
But Democrats are literally just pro-crime for the most part, so that's what they wanted anyway I guess.
>That money translates to there physical and logistical ability to extend their reach and do their job more efficiently
The money goes to buying surplus tanks and other military gear so that the cops
can feel like Rambo.
Please see
Your baseless projection of motive means nothing.
>blah blah blah social issues blah blah blah we need mo money fo dem programs blah blah
sounds good in practice, too bad the money always ends up in someone elses pocket first. and you are forgetting that they literally want to defund and disband the police and replace them with social workers. pretty sure a few social workers have already been murdered in portland.
>pretty sure a few social workers have already been murdered in portland.
Social workers aren't cowards like cops.
social workers are mostly unarmed fat women who live with at least three cats. hardly equipped to handle six and a half feet tall sperging autistic Black folk
>rich Hollywood liberal living in his gated community joins in on COPS BAD rhetoric by ascribing it to the movie he made 30 years ago
Imagine my shock
Frick the pigs.
>never had any problems with cops
>Always get stopped during typical police stop (cause my car looks like shit) and they are always very polite
I'm not even white.
Where the frick do you guys keep finding these crazy gun-nut cops that shoot you at the drop of a hat?
>Where the frick do you guys keep finding these crazy gun-nut cops that shoot you at the drop of a hat?
america
I live in and love the US. I also despise the pigs. Try not to let this break your mind bro.
>Where the frick do you guys keep finding these crazy gun-nut cops that shoot you at the drop of a hat?
The US
They auft through millions upon millions of interactions between civilians and cops to find one or two in a decade that went wrong and then a journo made sound even worse.
The point remains that hatred of cops tends to scale with both how non-white/low class you are AND how many illegal narcotics you do. It's funny how crying about the police is so exclusive to low-IQ, drug-addled, uppity, fat morons. Every actual law-abiding citizen, especially white ones, seems to have nothing but good things to say about them.
cops have never had a legal responsibility to protect
Then why do we pay them?
taxation if theft
because israelites depend on cops to keep white people in line and keep them from exterminating Black folk. Black folk need the police believe it or not.
Memes aside
Cops are not meant to protect the people.
They're meant to keep the peace.
There's a difference.
They enforce the government legal monopoly on violence. And, unless you're a hardcore anarchist, you should understand that a monopoly on the legal use of force is necessary for a society to maintain itself.
People's tax money does not go into paying police officers or firefighters
Crime and chaos isn't rampant across America
Fires aren't burning down all of America
A police station that employs 20 people (to sit on their butts most of the time) does not need $500 mil to keep itself afloat
It's all a lie
People's tax money goes directly into the hands of politicians and the military
It has always been about us (the people) against them (the politicians and their goon squad aka military)
and it's how they, the politicians, keep stealing our money by setting up laws that allows them to do so through taxation
>police get paid a lot of money
>crime and chaos isn't rampant across America
Sounds like you should thank them
No, you moron.
The police isn't the eye of sauron where it's constantly watching over the city with its hand on its pistol, warning citizens to behave or else
They are relaxed as shit, and if anything, bored out of their minds
A population of 1 million people shouldn't need their tax money go to into paying just a few people to sit on their butts for most of the time
There is no justification in paying millions of dollars to a small group of people as an authoritarian force to watch over a majority of people who aren't killing and stealing from their neighbors
Taxation is a LIE and benefits only politicians and their goon squad
Well, there's something like 40 million police encounters every year in the US and 10-13 million arrests made, so I don't think they're too bored
In the city of Chicago yeah
My neighborhood?
Your neighborhood?
No
And you obviously just made the shit up, you homosexual
The same reason you kick up to the Mafia. For protection.
at least the mafia actually provided a service. thats why the feds went after them, because they ran a better form of government than the feds did.
to murder Black folk in the streets
Shit, this is messed up.
The state really should be designed around the preservation and wellbeing of the people.
Why hasn't anyone ever tried to build a society like that?
They used to, even if unofficially. 30+ years of Leftists poisoning yet another foundational institution has destroyed that though.
He's right
What a hack. It was just so he could find John, and maybe because Skynet has a thing for aithority. How moronic.
But the terminators aren't cops. The movies have actual cops in them and they try to take down the terminators.
are people seriously retroactively giving some contrived symbolic explanation for his uniform besides it simply being visually distinct
>Apologize now.
You first, Emma.
James Cameron is not a great thinker. Watch avatar. It’s moronic. His three good movies (terminator, t2, aliens) aren’t good because they are works of philosophy
well his best movie, Abyss, is a bit more cerebral
It's just a badass action movie. And with the amount of stunt, camera and set work involved, i'd hardly call it mindless. It was crafted with a creatice vision. I'd say a mindless action movie would be a Marvel CGI fest. T-1000 still looks better today than anything in Black Panther, how disgracecul
how many times did this guy go to epstein's island?
do Soros and Zuck just text him scripts and ideas along with thinly veiled threats from their glowie PR shell companies?
The first one is the only good Terminator movie anyway
T2 is essentially proto-capeshit
T1 is just a slasher horror with a sci-fi twist.
Stop fricking posting this you fricking homosexual cop wiener sucker OP
He's not wrong. Defund the police. Teach self defense to kids and arm women.
>actual cop defenders in this thread
enjoy worshiping your fat worthless zogbots who work on behalf of the deep state I guess
>talk about how much you hate cops
>also support banning guns
>not intelligent enough to understand that if you remove your ability to defend yourself you would have to depend on the people you claim to hate for 100% of your safety
You guys probably got jabbed too didn't you?
Cops don't protect anyone, they respond after the fact
>You guys probably got jabbed too didn't you?
Oh you're actually moronic. Figures.
You'll still call them when your (whatever) gets stolen
Happened to me a few years ago. They did frick all about it.
>Me smart because me inject me with untested serum for virus with 99.997% survival rate, make peers happy. Me good Guinea Pig.
>>talk about how much you hate cops
Yes
>>also support banning guns
No
>>not intelligent enough to understand that if you remove your ability to defend yourself you would have to depend on the people you claim to hate for 100% of your safety
moronic conclusion borne of not understanding that anon posters are not all the same person
>You guys probably got jabbed too didn't you?
That's what it comes to doesn't it? You support cops because you think that all your opinions have to come with a complete package of cuckoldry. If you don't get the jab you MUST support cops shooting people in the back for playing Crash Bandicoot too loud. You're so fricking moronic.
Zoomers don't understand why t1000 disguised as a cop? It was easier to get information that way
Do Tesla cars HAVE to stop when you walk or drive in front of them because of their programming? I know they dont have fully self driving but most cars have that auto break feature. I think some of them are collision detection at certain speeds. But if two people wanted to sit in front and behind of a tesla can they just trap that vehicle? If it was a regular car and the person considered it life-threatening enough they could just try to drive around the person or hit them. But from what i understand a Tesla wouldnt budge. Is that true? What about if you just walked in front of one going 55. Obviously most people would swerve anyway and if it was able to be proven that walking in front was done intentionally that would elevate it to some kind of murder charge. but a high profile assassin-prone target may have some policy of just plowing down a random person trying to walk in front of their path when going high speeds. (they probably just wouldnt have a tesla then or override that auto stop/auto swerve shit. Anyway I just want to exploit telsas more. I think im going to just ignore them at 4 way stops since I no longer have to worry about the driver being an idiot. The car will stop for me. We all should do this. see yall on the flipside
I'm pretty sure they made the machine look like a cop because it would be terrifying in 1990s America to think that a police officer, someone you're supposed to rely on to protect you in an emergency, being the greatest danger to you instead. The only people who felt otherwise were militia weirdos and minorities.
Only in 2022 does it seem obvious that of course cops are moronic and will shoot you at the drop of a hat.
Cameron implemented the hydraulic press scene because he is into crush and wore fetish.
Based.
Thanks Harlan Ellison
The movie literally shows you how the T-1000 uses his front as a cop to enable his mission to find and kill a boy. What would stop a real life monster (that happens to be a cop) from doing the same?
cops suck but this is such bullshit. the actual cops in t1 and t2 are portrayed pretty sympathetically even if they are bumbling amd overworked.
So Cameron cucked to the liberals and SJWs.
>So Cameron cucked to the liberals and SJWs.
lmao
Jim's a lifelong leftist my man. He's a vegan environmentalist.
He's a capitalist pig that abuses his workers
damn cameron is a moron after all
Both blue and red team serve the zog
>be cop
>sworn to protect and serve
>respond to a disturbance
>alone because partner has the green apple splatters
>spooky underpass but duty to protect public
>get killed by robertcop
>people spraypaint the word pig on my tombstone
A lot of shitskin energy in this thread
Bullshit. The reason he makes himself look like a cop is so he can go into crime scenes without raising suspicion.
Koyannisqatsi did it better