i think if it was in the theatrical cut people might like it more
that's such a visceral thing and it lets the normies know that this is weird, but in an accessible way because it's just her face slowly forming into an evil grin
honestly i wonder how they did that because it looks very unnatural and i doubt sheryl can actually do that with her face especially so controlled but the lighting makes it all seamless
I don't think any of the Laura stuff is what filtered people. Sure it was a lot darker than the show and didn't have any of the quirks that attracted normies to the show, but even longtime Lynch fans and his peers were turned off by it. What I think riled people up is that the first act is basically a completely different movie, or at least seems that way at face value, and just seemed like a deliberately inscrutable non sequitur, like a self-parody of what people who hate Lynch think all his films are like. It irritated half the audience before even getting to the meat of the film. Tarantino notoriously said that it completely ruined Lynch for him, and while I obviously think he was mistaken in hindsight, I can kind of see why someone would've thought that at the time.
Maddy never did anything suspicious, never acted weird. She was literally just a cousin played by the same actress cause Lynch liked Sheryl Lee and wanted to do more with her than just play a dead body.
Almost like her purpose was finally fulfilled and simply disappeared. Last time we ever see her us doing pretty much that when Dale gets into the Black Lodge- he even turns away from her before she actually fades away.
>Twin Peaks
How do people watch this shit? Nothing fucking happens, there's like 2 dozen characters who are all identical. It is shit and nothing but an ad for smoking yet gets praised like it's the best shit ever on TV
It is pretty good. Engaging characters and great atmosphere.
But Season 2 was all over the place and the ending was....taking it too far.
I haven't watched further yet.
the finale of S2 was the best part of it, aside from the early Leland episodes
The shittiness of S2 is overexaggerated, it has like 3 eps that have weird bits like directionlessness and tryhard lynchianism, save for that it's fine. On the Wings of Love is my favorie ep
Oh, I liked most of it, but there were events that clearly had to lead to something that never happened and characters that just hanged in there without anything to do.
It becomes clear that they messed something up during season 2.
And I disliked the lodge thing. Adding schizo crap to the perfect atmosphere of season 1 was not my piece of pie.
As if Lynch put himself into a corner that he had no idea how to get out of, so he just threw crazy stuff at the viewer.
Lynch wasn't involved for most of season 2, he quit the show after the producers forced him to reveal Laura's killer and only came back to direct and try to fix the final 3 episodes
Season 1 is comfykino with very distinct characters and a half dozen intriguing mysteries and storylines going on. Season 2 fell off a cliff. FWWM is your typical Lynch nonsense. The Return is Lynch nonsense with the added sprinkling of irrelevant filmmaker and senility added on top.
Agreed. The amount of cope over FWWM is embarrassing too. Fucking thing has over an hour of deleted scenes to the point the story which makes no sense makes even LESS sense and for 2 decades people had to resort to examining the shooting script to understand what Lynch was even getting at.
The Return was a complete disaster and now half the cast are dead so he can't unfuck the mess he made
I would have loved to have watched you during the nuke scene. I bet your were fidgeting through the entire sequence. "When does this end! I don't get it"
Lynch tries too hard and so fo you. Theres no difference between his garbage which is made incomprehensible on purpose and his garbage which is made incomprehensible by having over an hours worth of content cut from it. You fags will eat it up regardless
that's exactly the point of fwwm and the return. people like you are not supposed to like them. he made them to filter out all the people who enjoyed the corniest parts of twin peaks which he was forced to add to a more mainstream production. like this "twin peaks is comfykino <333333333 laura palmer is the Vibes <3333" is the type of shit lynch clearly despises
>Nothing happens!
Not everything needs to involve a Big Bad(TM) that requires an overwhelming response from a ragtag group in brightly colored costumes. Sometimes, a nice human story is just nice to see. Fucking dipshit.
ohayo gozaimasu newfriend
lynch wrote and directed a movie on early shitty camcorder digital video starring laura dern
it's great but really out there
2 months ago
Anonymous
ngl it’s the only lynchkino that genuinely lynched me
I should probably watch it again
2 months ago
Anonymous
ngl it’s the only lynchkino that genuinely lynched me
I should probably watch it again
Thanks, anon. I will check it out.
2 months ago
Anonymous
i hope it's a good time
i need to watch it again too
ngl it’s the only lynchkino that genuinely lynched me
I should probably watch it again
it's definitely the least accessible of his features by a lot, it's really wild, very convoluted and inexplicable. it's a very interesting movie and it even has crossover appeal with shot on video weirdos
2 months ago
Anonymous
i hope it's a good time
i need to watch it again too
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it's definitely the least accessible of his features by a lot, it's really wild, very convoluted and inexplicable. it's a very interesting movie and it even has crossover appeal with shot on video weirdos
and i think a lot of people can't get over how amateur it looks because it was filmed with a cheap camcorder. i'd imagine it followed the same (laudable imo) ethos lynch had for some of the awful effects in the return
Its such a fucking shame Twin Peaks soured her career because that Fire Walk With Me performance is unreal.
She has Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead levels of manic intensity and at the same time the sensitivity of a child, and most importantly and switch flawlessly from one to the other in a snap and it’s not only believable but madly empathetic
One of the best performances in a horror movie Ive ever seen
And then she was in John Carpenter’s Vampires being exploited and then that was basically it for her career
What a shame because I think shes way better than anything Laura Dern was in
She was in Backbeat as Astrid Kirchherr. She had a decent little 90s indie actress career but nobody from that milieu made it to the Oscars without going thru Harvey Weinstein.
On the plus side, she's very humble and sweet. I got to meet her twice and she likes to talk about things she cares about outside movies. The actor who plays Andy is a fucking dick though
Absolutely. She's been at the same con two years in a row. Maybe three, but I only went these past two times. Same with Andy. Last time I got to meet her, Ray Wise, Kimmy Robertson, Micheal Horse, and Sherilyn Fenn. It was for the FWWM anniversary though, not the con. They were all really cool, but the guy who plays Andy is just like a spaz. He got up from the signings just to take pictures of a stairwell, was talking shit to the faggy presenter (maybe that was justified to be honest), misspelled autographs on purpose, etc. And he had them screen his crappy art film twice. It just came across as obnoxious
2 months ago
Anonymous
lmao you make him sound the classic "oh, like you're doing now?" infetterence milky way pasta. just petty and specific and autistic
he sounds kind of based i can't deny it. not a hotshot ego prick but more mentally ill
He's an "artist" (photographer)
is that it? is he into photomontage like pic related?
they were intentionally snubbing him and people who worked with him despite him filming some of the best performances of all time
originally AFI, which he came from, was too based for this world
Lynch is too spicy for the oscars. He's violent, vulgar, abstract and most of all independent. The academy was basically an institution founded to legitimize and aggrandize the big hollywood studio machine, and they have rarely ever recognized films, filmmakers or companies that operate outside of the machine or betray the middle-road goldielocks zone that every hollywood production from blockbusters to prestige oscar bait tries to aim for.
The oscars itself are so fucking stupid structurally also. The fact that you have to campaign to get a nomination like political candidates in an election is totally unfair and ripe for abuse and fraud. It's all a sham.
>he had a constant terrifying presence
Lynch did the right thing cutting scenes that showed Leland's warmer side. Fan cuts missed the point and did the wrong thing putting them back.
>cutting scenes that showed Leland's warmer side.
Wasn't that just one scene? And I think the point was to make BOB's control over Leland a bit more ambiguous and it also serves as a contrast to the later scene when he's is shouting at Laura for having dirty fingernails. Anyway pretty much all the deleted scenes are great and fit with the movie's general premise of showing Twin Peaks as a much darker place than it was in the show, but focusing on Laura Palmer's last few days alive makes the film work a lot better. Interjecting with unrelated characters would mess that up a bit even if the scenes are still really great. Ed and Norma's in particular
No. She was originally meant to be in the Sylvia Horne role where she’d be choked out by her own son- and that was it for her character. She refused to come in for filming, and it affected the whole shooting schedule to the degree that her scenes were in fact the very last set of scenes filmed for the third season.
I feel like that whole subplot was a pisstake on soap operas, just two people standing in a room having the same circular argument and getting nowhere.
lucy's autism balanced him out
instead of a meth thug he's an anachronistic freewheeling greaser of the dharma. fun character, fun scene, highlight of michael cera's unfortunate career. glad he didn't overstay his welcome
cut circus sideplot foreshadowing the next film
judy was the ringleader
early drafts of fwwm's cancelled sequel had cooper reincarnated as a lion
it was kind of like dr doolittle and that monkey would have arguably been its protagonist
So real shit, I saw this show for the very first time, and it blew my mind. I think that had to have been a year leading up to THE RETURN, which I watched as it debuted and with plenty of time to mull over the series and see FWWM before the new third season. But originally, I had sat down and I watched this series, first & second season and didn't skip the brooding biker parts. This scene sticks out to me, I mean how couldn't it? It is a major revelation after all. But I mean it stuck out to me personally.
Well after I finish the episode, I am tasked with going to the local grocery store to fill a supply run for the weekend. Well, wouldn't you know it? I walked over to the endcap at checkout, and there was a brand new opened display of my favorite childhood bubble gum. I chewed that shit religiously. In all honesty I hadn't seen or experienced this gum in my world once in a half decade.
Take away? I think twin peaks was speaking to me on a personal level. I happened upon a meme from the show in 'reality.' There's a number of other occurrences that were more than mere random chance. It made me think a great deal about the theory of unified thought that David talks about, explores and taps into.
Anyone else have this thing happen to them when watching Twin Peaks?
I rewatched the international pilot again recently and realized how much the international pilot ending spells out the show.
The waiting room is literally the waiting room where actors have been warehoused. Because maybe the show wont continue. It's been 25 years the man says: gum you like is coming back in style.
Laura Palmer appears and he says this is my cousin but doesn't she look like Laura Palmer. Because if the show comes back on the air that's who the actress is going to play next, the cousin: Maddie! And she's waiting in there to come back on stage.
I can't believe I never realized that.
right before I started watching twin peaks I was having deep thoughts about the issues of writing fiction and bringing characters into existence just to sometime made them go thought so much misery and pain and later abandonment
Yeah what happened is they told Lynch to think up an ending. And he came up with the Bob and one armed man stuff. Then that extra part about all the characters being abandoned and stuck in a red room which is obviously the backstage of a show. The dwarf was because he wanted MJA for a movie about a guy that can control electricity so he through him in there.
However Lynch liked the ending so much he made it part of the show. First as a dream in Episode 2 and then making it a more integral part of it.
Regarding your characters, I think it only matters if other people see them in a medium. Then they are stuck in their own red room to be recalled and placed in new roles (like Laura forever becoming Maddie or Carrie Page or Laura again) forever more. Red Room is actually a terrifying idea. Worse still it applies to real people in this world of deep fakes and AI.
Are you saying I literally send my imaginary actors, those born of my thoughts, to the lodge, only to pluck them out abruptly and jarringly for further portrayals of their benign role?
Just pray it never happens to you. Chris to too dumb to realize he's been mentally tortured for garmanbozia. Being red roomed is terrible you can never leave. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGqVDQ-7u0g
Do you think if a start a twin peaks thread there I'll be welcomed? No bullshit, I felt like I was communicating with the themes of the show on a deeply intimate level.
must suck having to tell yourself that. I hope Lynch makes a couple more seasons of the Dougie Jones Show just for you, I'm sure you'd hang on to every moment.
I don't know why, but it is so infuriating when this guy does his DOG SHIT Lynch impersonation.
It's like he wants to give off the impression that he and Lynch are on the same level because he has FIGURED IT ALL OUT, even his speech pattern!
There's good material there for interpretation, but by his own admission only have the secret sauce by omitting the Frost element for the sake of time. You can't parse this without the spiritual and occult elements.
I took my mum to see Fire Walk With Me at the picture theatre a few weeks ago after we binged the first two seasons together. Absolutely incredible experience. I was surprised she didn't mind the incestual rape!
She really didn't get The Return at all, but she did enjoy Dougie Jones and her favourite character, Andy.
An extreme negative force removed Laura Palmer from existence. That force is Dale Cooper. He went back in time to 1989 and created a time paradox by preventing her death. Thus, without her death, he never goes back in time to save her. Thus she dies. Thus, he goes back to save her. Thus she never dies. Thus he never goes back in time. And so on and so on. The time paradox erases Laura. Cooper is Judy.
Does Cooper inevitably become trans and turn into the Large Bosomed Woman that opens the door for Mr. C at the Flying Dutchman motel? I always pictured her as the dark evil counterpart to Denise Bryson’s good human nature.
i dunno about cooper being judy, but i think a reality-shattering paradox could be a good explanation for the ending
ultimately cooper had no clue what the fuck he was doing or what kind of powers he was playing with, that much is clear. that might be the whole point
well right before bowie appears and freaks out we see cooper's doppelganger on the security cameras so ostensibly he's referring to that, which i guess is a paranormal reference to the evil coop we see in the s2 finale that would be elaborated on in the return, as would extra coops like dougie
>Season 4 comes out >it focuses entirely on the new Dougie that Coop created for Janey-E and Sonny Jim >no Chet Desmond >no real Cooper >no Shelly >no Tammy
>These tracks were surly missed with all of that dead silence in The Return.
im with you on that, i love the return but two things that i'm still not sold on are the dead silence and the cgi gore effects
I cope and rationalize with the odd gore affects by interpreting that the people tied with Mr. C getting shot are almost like the tulpas- like their odd blood solotch effext reminds me of the weird floating rock with a vomiting mouth that came floating out of original Dougie tulpas’ pile of clothes.
>Mrs Tremond's grandson is David Lynch's son >he's a magician who teleports garmonbozia >Mrs Tremond tells Donna about Harold Smith >Harold leaves behind a note saying the same French phrase that Donna overheard in the Tremond house >when Donna returns to the house, a completely different Mrs Tremond lives there who has no mother, grandmother, son, or grandson >a year prior, Mrs Tremond used to go by Mrs Chalfont >Chet Desmond finds the Jowday owl ring under a trailer belonging to the Chalfonts >the trailer disappears >Chet Desmond disappears >when Carrie Page and Richard (believing himself to be Dale Cooper) show up at the Palmer house, an Alice Tremond opens the door, saying the house was previously owned by Chalfonts >"What year is this?"
What the fuck ARE the Tremond/Chalfonts? They helped Donna. But then they gave Laura the weird dream painting. Then they live in the Palmer house to trick Cooop??????
>Mrs Tremond's grandson is David Lynch's son >he's a magician who teleports garmonbozia >Mrs Tremond tells Donna about Harold Smith >Harold leaves behind a note saying the same French phrase that Donna overheard in the Tremond house >when Donna returns to the house, a completely different Mrs Tremond lives there who has no mother, grandmother, son, or grandson >a year prior, Mrs Tremond used to go by Mrs Chalfont >Chet Desmond finds the Jowday owl ring under a trailer belonging to the Chalfonts >the trailer disappears >Chet Desmond disappears >when Carrie Page and Richard (believing himself to be Dale Cooper) show up at the Palmer house, an Alice Tremond opens the door, saying the house was previously owned by Chalfonts >"What year is this?"
I think the Chalfonts and Tremonds are assassins who murdered Chet Desmond and Harold Smith, then went into hiding. Decades later, they murdered Sarah Palmer and stole her house.
cooper got his oneitis and that powered him up to save the day. he was momentarily confused about what year it was because, in those final moments, they actually teleported back to before laura's dad got possessed and raped her - because in laying diane, cooper killed all the demons.
garmonbozia=creamed corn="anal creampie"
I rewatched the international pilot again recently and realized how much the international pilot ending spells out the show.
The waiting room is literally the waiting room where actors have been warehoused. Because maybe the show wont continue. It's been 25 years the man says: gum you like is coming back in style.
Laura Palmer appears and he says this is my cousin but doesn't she look like Laura Palmer. Because if the show comes back on the air that's who the actress is going to play next, the cousin: Maddie! And she's waiting in there to come back on stage.
I can't believe I never realized that.
I vaguely remember this. So what are you saying. We live inside a dream (tv show)?
It appears in the tv show as the dream at the end of Episode 2.
However originally that scene was designed for the international pilot.
the youtube doesn't play the full thing but you already know it. Basically the show has ended, Bob is shot dead Mike. Now they are in this room for 25 years. Realizing its the actors waiting to come back to the show made me realize the cousin line. Because next time you see that actress in the show it will be Maddie.
>"She's my cousin. But doesn't she look almost exactly like Laura Palmer?" >"But it... it is Laura Palmer."
i always loved that because it feels like even with context it only half-makes sense. The things Cooper experiences in there are confusing and mysterious even if you know the whole story.
this is why i think ultimately the great lore of the show is irrelevant and the dots don't need connected
it's about a man in a goofy world succumbing to hubris and getting involved way in over his head to the point of destroying his entire reality
I don't think any of the Laura stuff is what filtered people. Sure it was a lot darker than the show and didn't have any of the quirks that attracted normies to the show, but even longtime Lynch fans and his peers were turned off by it. What I think riled people up is that the first act is basically a completely different movie, or at least seems that way at face value, and just seemed like a deliberately inscrutable non sequitur, like a self-parody of what people who hate Lynch think all his films are like. It irritated half the audience before even getting to the meat of the film. Tarantino notoriously said that it completely ruined Lynch for him, and while I obviously think he was mistaken in hindsight, I can kind of see why someone would've thought that at the time.
yeah, the first chunk is obviously a parody, everything is turned on its head. i guess it is self-indulgent but i liked it. then its all rendered contextually pointless and we get the last days of laura, which i guess a lot of people felt was a retread. that's another reason why i think that scene should have been in the theatrical cut. it's so well-made and it also helps highlight the weirdo themes of possession, and it's already very strange because it's coming from a ceiling fan >i want to taste through your mouth
that's visceral, that hits hard. that's a really short scene, it could have easily been included and i think it would help people enjoy the film more, i really wish it was in the theatrical cut
>they find out who killed laura >evil fbi agent becomes the new villain >ben horne becomes a neo-confederate >audrey falls in love with billy zane >piper laurie does yellowface
That's all I remember
>they find out who killed laura >evil fbi agent becomes the new villain >ben horne becomes a neo-confederate >audrey falls in love with billy zane >piper laurie does yellowface
That's all I remember
trying to think of what you need to watch the finale
cooper got with some girl who wasn't in s1
there's some kind of serial killer or whatever who has a history with cooper
i think that's it, lynch throws it all out the window
uhhhh how, because i haven't watched s2 in a decade
like in s2e1 where we see the giant? the few lynch episodes of s2 are mandatory viewing
i just mean the stuff you need to understand the context of the s2 finale. most of the season ends up superfluous
2 months ago
Anonymous
No, Cooper and the gang learning where and what the Black Lodge is. Also Earle's obsession with it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Hawk says if you face the black lodge with imperfect courage, it will utterly annihilate your soul.
I thought season 3 was kino. The episode with the nuclear explosion was amazing.
It completely mogged Oppenheimer. Years and years later.
To be honest i couldn't get into the show because outside of Cooper and I think the native guy, everyone seemed like a piece of shit who deserved to be shot
Wasn't around here when the episode premiered. How'd it go? I remember tons of people getting filtered all over during the first three episodes. Especially funny when it was boomers going "I remember that show! Sure ain't what it used to be..."
The absolute brutal cucking of the “copper never gets his memory back” spammers when he finally got his memory back and the Eddie Vedder song turned out to be a red herring was glorious.
lmao that was a beautiful thing, those guys (that guy?) were annoying and demoralizing. return threads were fun, it was just obnoxious how the slightest criticism or question was followed by a choir of LYNCHED LYNCHED LYNCHED LYNCHED
Season 3 was like a bus that started off at full capacity, and a few people got off at each stop. After 18 stops only the most worthy and enlightened Lynchians remained.
I waited a long time to watch the final episode. I thought I got my second wind when Coop finally woke up, but alas, I was lynched out. I didn't watch the final episode until 2 months later. Maybe I'm a smoothbrain, but I can only handle so much surrealism at once, anon.
So real shit, I saw this show for the very first time, and it blew my mind. I think that had to have been a year leading up to THE RETURN, which I watched as it debuted and with plenty of time to mull over the series and see FWWM before the new third season. But originally, I had sat down and I watched this series, first & second season and didn't skip the brooding biker parts. This scene sticks out to me, I mean how couldn't it? It is a major revelation after all. But I mean it stuck out to me personally.
Well after I finish the episode, I am tasked with going to the local grocery store to fill a supply run for the weekend. Well, wouldn't you know it? I walked over to the endcap at checkout, and there was a brand new opened display of my favorite childhood bubble gum. I chewed that shit religiously. In all honesty I hadn't seen or experienced this gum in my world once in a half decade.
Take away? I think twin peaks was speaking to me on a personal level. I happened upon a meme from the show in 'reality.' There's a number of other occurrences that were more than mere random chance. It made me think a great deal about the theory of unified thought that David talks about, explores and taps into.
Anyone else have this thing happen to them when watching Twin Peaks?
and I posted in twin peak threads preceding as well as during the release of The Return. Some of my favorite time spent on this website, truthfully. That and the power rangers marathon, and the time I tracked a cereal killer on /b/. Not really in that order mind you, but they were all monumental to me at the time.
it wasn't simply pretending to be retarded, it was retarded
i think that's the whole point of that subplot. it's no wonder it's resolved when cooper gets his memory back and begins the process of destroying the entire universe
It's all Hindu cosmology. Lynch has always been big on it with his meditation stuff. The lodge, golden egg, tulpas, dopplegangers, interdimensional beings, all the weird stuff is ripped straight from vedic philosophy. Obviously most westerners don't have a clue about all that which is why no one really picks up on it. He uses it in almost all of his films
does it show up in mulholland drive or blue velvet for example? not saying it doesn't, i don't really know. i don't think transcendental meditation gets very theological
i think a lot of that stuff comes from mark frost. i'm almost positive he said tulpas for example came from him
although frost and lynch said that a lot of things you think would come from one of them actually came from the other. you got examples from lynch's other works?
It's not so direct in his other work, they just all become clearer when you understand the groundwork he's building on. Basically his films take place in a world where vedeism is real which explains a lot of the strange stuff he's known for
you mean the elderly couple coming at her or all the stuff with no hay banda and entering the jumpscare hobo's box?
i just don't know anything about vedism really. i read lord of light by robert zelazny if that counts
i'm just curious what the heck you mean if you want to lay it out a little
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'd have to lay out of all of vedic philosophy and its interpretations lol but yes that's the part I meant. Best advice to to read up on it yourself and you'll see the links on rewatching
2 months ago
Anonymous
i named multiple parts, i didn't know what you meant by "the whole ending sequence". from club silencio i'd imagine but i don't know
i've just seen a lot of discussion about these films and never seen anything like that, and you're acting as if it's self-evident: just study this religion and suddenly lynch takes on a new light
idk buddy, you can't roughly explain what you mean?
2 months ago
Anonymous
You're exactly right,you'd have to go on a deep dive into the religion like Lynch did, which inspired so much of his work. It's not absolutely everything, he's an artist after all. But he's massively inspired by it
2 months ago
Anonymous
alright ranjesh, you totally convinced me with your awkward platitudes. you can't supply just one little example about this thing lynch never mentioned, that i've never seen anyone discuss, that is apparently quintessential to truly understanding his work.
weirdo
2 months ago
Anonymous
Fucking dick I took time to respond to you you want be to sum up all of vedic philosophy and its connection to Lynch's work for you? Fuck off. Google "Hinduism golden egg" it's exactly what the Laura golden ball is. If you can't figure the rest out in your own then suck my dick I gave you all the clues. I probably whiter than you as well. Fucking ASS
2 months ago
Anonymous
lol no, you didn't. you postured like a weirdo. that was the first substantial thing you've said. you act like it's so simple, yet in the same breath say it takes so much time and effort to explain. it's ridiculous.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It's not ridiculous it's just hard and a time sink to learn an entire fucking religion to understand the guys work,don't put that shit on me. If you want to know but too brain lazy to do the research yourself it anit my fault . Go back to thinking it's all muh meta teevee if you want you ignorant fuck. As if the hours upon hours of lynch talking about transcendental meditation isn't enough. Don't just eat shit, eat my shit. I am lynched by you, you retard
2 months ago
Anonymous
lmao >lazy
man, i don't mean to be rude because you seem upset, but am i supposed to start reading random religious tomes to try to substantiate your lynch theories?
what the hell are you on about? either point me in a certain direction, talk about what you believe in, or stop this bizarre behavior
2 months ago
Anonymous
I literally told you google golden egg Hinduism, that's your starting point, off with you now
2 months ago
Anonymous
you suck at conversing and come off really spergy. i'll look into it, but how about off with you buddy boy
2 months ago
Anonymous
Google my balls while you're at it dumbo
2 months ago
Anonymous
so how again does mulholland drive fit into poojeet religion? you went out of your way to dodge that one
2 months ago
Anonymous
You're asking for direct correlations when I've already told you his other work isn't as direct as twin peaks. Im telling you that lynch is a fucking massive enthusiast of vedeism and Hindu cosmology and its reflected in his work. The shit at the end of Mulholland could be anything from the Maya illusory goddess to something happening between purveyors of other realms. The point im making to you is that lynch loves this stuff and by reading about it you'll better understand his influences and therefore his work. Even if you asked lynch himself "wut happen" he wouldn't have an answer for you
2 months ago
Anonymous
that's cool. we got off on wrong. i don't wanna fight you buddy, i was just curious what you thought and felt you were being evasive. you seemed to state so definitively how influential this school of thought clearly is on the work, and when i asked about it you just insisted on how complicated it was. if you feel so strongly about it, why not discuss it? and if you're gonna insist on independent research, at least throw out a book or two. i got caught up in the spirit of the shitshow and well i'm sorry. no hard feelings. i'll look into it
2 months ago
Anonymous
No worries I've just been on the town so drunker each post, just having a laugh W U. Really though, this stuff is the major influence in all of lynchs work. It's the pool he draws from and the lens through which he sees the world. But it's that mixed with someone who was always kind of avant garde anyway. E.g. Eraserhead
Bonus fact the white horse motif comes from an old documentary Lynch saw as a kid, where for some reason this white stallion got shot in the head for being injured or something. Just an example of some of the weird stuff that was his own
2 months ago
Anonymous
Krishna’s Quads, center yourself child. If you rise to the anons bait you will never escape Samsara!
Also just to put a nice little bow on it, the return showed the catalyst for all this being the atom bomb. Who did the creator of said bomb so famously reference? Vishnu.
Lynch said Lost Highway takes place in the Twin Peaks universe, which is pretty obvious if you watch it anyway. But recently I found out that Mulholland Drive was originally meant to be an Audrey Horne spin-off before it was given to Naomi Watts aka Janey-E. With that in mind, how does Unrecorded Night aka Wistera felate to Twink Peaks?
Bob was a work colleague of Leland's. Together they raped and killed Leland's daughter, who was conceived by God by gold splurging. Then Jowday came to Twin Peaks to come up with a plot to erase Laura from existence so she can never going to will have been raped and murdered, under the alias Dale Cooper.
Ever had that eerie feeling that something's just... off? Like when you walk into a room and forget why, or when déjà vu hits so hard you're convinced you've lived that moment before? That's the essence of the rabbit hole of Twin Peaks, that's been messing with our minds for decades. And no, I'm not just talking about Judy.
The idea that we might be living in a dream isn't new. Reality is a broad concept, and for centuries, we've tried to define what's real and what's not.
The term "Lynchian" has become a cultural symbol for questioning our perceived reality. Movies, books, and even Christopher Nolan have suggested that we might be living in a dream. But, of course, there are skeptics who argue against this idea.
So, what truly matters? Whether we're in a dream or not, the questions it raises are essential. They force us to examine our lives, our choices, and our very existence. And perhaps, just perhaps, this quest for understanding is what truly counts.
FWWM had a lot of controversial scenes when it came out that some people felt they couldn't connect with, or that they didn't fit the idea of a Twin Peaks film, and sometimes outright ridiculed them.
The 5 biggest ones are: > Leland raping Laura in her bed. People found it cheesy because it reminded them of, well, rapes, and were baffled by the implication that perhaps an orgy is about to take place, while also showing Bob and Laura being intimate, while the first two seasons did not have as explicit sexuality on screen > All the scenes with Chet Desmond where they talk about Teresa Banks. People felt these take away from the excitement of having a Twin Peaks film because we never see Chet in the series > Laura meeting Harold Smith. People didn't understand why Laura acted the way she did and threw herself at everyone and why she spoke in a creepy voice. > Phillip Jeffries' long speech but perhaps even more particularly the cake orgasm moment, it baffled and made people feel uncomfortable seeing an orgasm on screen > The dwarf scenes, people got bored there was so much reverse talk instead of action for those random moments of the film where they show the red room and the convenience store meeting, and did not understand the big words that were being used or found it annoying that he didn't speak normal and that there was no reason for the character to speak like that
What are your thoughts on each of those now, and what were your thoughts 30 years ago (assuming you saw the film back in the day, if not then just say how you feel about them now)?
people just didn’t enjoy that Lynch was implementing some world building but didn’t flesh it out to book-level but rather left things up for viewers to talk and decide upon. And it got pinned as “poorly constructed” and simultaneously duped as “boring” for also including said world-building.
i think the reason the second and third movie were cancelled, is because the first movie was marketed as a Twin Peaks film and didn't a good job of blending all the philosophical notions into a classic action blitz. so all the simpletons of cinema were forced to use brain cells to understand what was happening.
These were the best scenes in the movies. I think the rape scene got bashed by both women (who thought it was commercializing it) and men (who were just haters). The reverse speech scenes I think added another dimension to the universe, also showing elements that there is a developed society and rule of law in the Lodges such as the convenience store. Chet Desmond was amazing. People that bashed Chet obviously never tried to investigate a murder, especially in the late 80s, it was amazing. The Harold stuff, I think people are just anti-sex (whether closeted or not) and probably why they hated the Laura/Harold scene. Jeffries was a super important character for the lore, I think this was mostly due to him being mysterious that they didn't like him. I saw the movie recently and it was much better than I remember.
>and were baffled by the implication that perhaps an orgy is about to take place
I mean I know that happens later with Leo and Jaques but why'd you have to word it like that? kek
>Phillip Jeffries' long speech but perhaps even more particularly the cake orgasm moment, it baffled and made people feel uncomfortable seeing an orgasm on screen
Frost is a hack of unimaginable proportion. All you need to know about him is his outstandingly cringe script for season 2 finale, the script that Lynch had to rewrite on the fly and managed to turn into a fan-favorite episode.
Link to the script:
http://www.lynchnet.com/tp/tp29.html
>get bored and decide to drop acid and watch The Return one day because irreparably damaging my psyche seems like a good thing to do on a Wednesday >10 hours in and this fucking thing comes on screen >mfw
>"I had another Call of Duty 4 session this morning. It was pouring down on us on this massive ship. I believed myself fully immersed into the thrill of battle, when this silly bastard turned the corner, jumped into the air and 360°-no-scoped me. Furiously, I hurled the game pad toward my television. I logged off and as I sat there in silence, meditating, all the rage and fury left my body and I felt at once one with the world. I would like to thank this brave soldier for teaching me a lesson in humility."
-David Lynch, 2007
>Fireman gives his cryptic clues
Cooper: >"I understand."
Fireman: >"You are far away.
18 episodes later: >Coop cannot remember the clues (he wonders who Richard and Linda are in the motel) >fumbles the questioning of Alice Tremond at the door >"What year is this?"
It's one of the reasons Coop is such a great character. He's so cocky, and sure, and he handles all the cryptic stuff so smoothly, takes it all in stride and heads into the fray with confidence.
Then it gets out of hand once he's actually in the black lodge. He hasn't a clue what is going on, intent on investigating he hangs around for a bit, then it just clearly becomes too much for him and he just tries to run away. Then he gets stuck there for 25 years.
He's stuck there for 25 years, at some point he's come into contact with the white lodge with The Fireman, he once again is acting cocky "I understand." He immediately gets outplayed by Mr. C who's a master of all this stuff, being a resident of the black lodge. He's eventually able to reconnect his mind to his body via the power socket. He immediately recommences his investigation, takes charge of the situation, heads out to Twin Peaks where the Mr. C/Bob situation has been solved by The Fireman.
Still intent on being the cocky investigator who can handle every situation, especially now that he's been exposed to the black lodge for 25 years, he follows his intuition regarding his room key from The Great Northern. He remembers his instructions from The Fireman, probably a guy to listen to since he solved the Mr. C situation with a gardening glove and a British kid. He finally admits to someone he might be out of his depth with the "Once we cross, it could all be different."
His uncertainty turns out to be completely correct. He's confused, lost, probably scared, and just relying on his training and intuition.
He manages to seemingly find Laura, he's regained some of his cock-suredness, immediately takes "her" back to "her childhood home". Gets stopped at the door, and is left questioning what year it even is.
Across the three seasons, he goes from a decorated FBI agent with a firm understanding of Tibetan mysticism filled with a surety in his own ability, to a guy who doesn't even know what year it is.
I noticed The Dutchman's convenience store has the same layout as the Palmer house (with the stairs). And the painting Mrs Chalfont/Tremond gave Laura in FWWM has the same wallpaper as the Dutchman's too
the picture frame
this scene is so fucking good
it should have been in the theatrical cut just to Lynch the plebs even harder
i think if it was in the theatrical cut people might like it more
that's such a visceral thing and it lets the normies know that this is weird, but in an accessible way because it's just her face slowly forming into an evil grin
honestly i wonder how they did that because it looks very unnatural and i doubt sheryl can actually do that with her face especially so controlled but the lighting makes it all seamless
I don't think any of the Laura stuff is what filtered people. Sure it was a lot darker than the show and didn't have any of the quirks that attracted normies to the show, but even longtime Lynch fans and his peers were turned off by it. What I think riled people up is that the first act is basically a completely different movie, or at least seems that way at face value, and just seemed like a deliberately inscrutable non sequitur, like a self-parody of what people who hate Lynch think all his films are like. It irritated half the audience before even getting to the meat of the film. Tarantino notoriously said that it completely ruined Lynch for him, and while I obviously think he was mistaken in hindsight, I can kind of see why someone would've thought that at the time.
They probably took it out because people in test screenings laughed at how corny it was.
I doubt lynch does test screenings
i don't think it's corny, i think it's creepy
sometimes that's a fine line
Isn't it weird how there was never a funeral for Maddy, no one grieved for her, no one even mentioned her after she died.
A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?
>It's not "A kid'll eat ivy too, Wouldn't you?"
What?
It's a nonsense song from the 40s
She was probably a doppleganger or tulpa or whatever like dougie jones
Maddy was born three years before Laura
Time doesn’t mean shit in twin peaks
HELLO PHILLIP JEFFRIES, IT'S YREV VERY GOOD TO SEE YOU
I don't think he greeted me properly.
Maddy never did anything suspicious, never acted weird. She was literally just a cousin played by the same actress cause Lynch liked Sheryl Lee and wanted to do more with her than just play a dead body.
you got this far but didn't realize laura was her doppelgänger, it's literally spelled out on the screen in the Lynch Extended Universe
Is that why he killed her? he found out what she was?
Almost like her purpose was finally fulfilled and simply disappeared. Last time we ever see her us doing pretty much that when Dale gets into the Black Lodge- he even turns away from her before she actually fades away.
What purpose?
To remind us all, the spectator and the people of the town that Laura mattered, and reveal to us Leland as the murderer.
“Watch out for my cousin.”
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>Twin Peaks
How do people watch this shit? Nothing fucking happens, there's like 2 dozen characters who are all identical. It is shit and nothing but an ad for smoking yet gets praised like it's the best shit ever on TV
>nothing fucking happens
Lemme guess. Zoomer? Bet you also think nothing happens in the Sopranos or Mad Men.
>also think nothing happens in the Sopranos or Mad Men.
Yes
what an amazing picture
This picture shows best what a keen eye for photography David Lynch has
Wonder if anyone on set slapped those cheeks.
TAKE MY SOUL SHERYL LEE
It's the best shit ever on TV
It's also an ad for coffee.
i started drinking coffee because of dale cooper
name a single show where something happens i fucking dare you
The Terror
Pure kino that offers everything
it’s quite literally the best episodic show ever.
> nothing but an ad for smoking
Checked, but it’s actually an ad for damn fine cherry pie.
It is pretty good. Engaging characters and great atmosphere.
But Season 2 was all over the place and the ending was....taking it too far.
I haven't watched further yet.
the finale of S2 was the best part of it, aside from the early Leland episodes
The shittiness of S2 is overexaggerated, it has like 3 eps that have weird bits like directionlessness and tryhard lynchianism, save for that it's fine. On the Wings of Love is my favorie ep
Oh, I liked most of it, but there were events that clearly had to lead to something that never happened and characters that just hanged in there without anything to do.
It becomes clear that they messed something up during season 2.
And I disliked the lodge thing. Adding schizo crap to the perfect atmosphere of season 1 was not my piece of pie.
As if Lynch put himself into a corner that he had no idea how to get out of, so he just threw crazy stuff at the viewer.
Lynch wasn't involved for most of season 2, he quit the show after the producers forced him to reveal Laura's killer and only came back to direct and try to fix the final 3 episodes
>can't appreciate things in their film/television development history context, must have chew toy visual effects and ADD editing quick fire cuts
You don't read.
Season 1 is comfykino with very distinct characters and a half dozen intriguing mysteries and storylines going on. Season 2 fell off a cliff. FWWM is your typical Lynch nonsense. The Return is Lynch nonsense with the added sprinkling of irrelevant filmmaker and senility added on top.
Agreed. The amount of cope over FWWM is embarrassing too. Fucking thing has over an hour of deleted scenes to the point the story which makes no sense makes even LESS sense and for 2 decades people had to resort to examining the shooting script to understand what Lynch was even getting at.
The Return was a complete disaster and now half the cast are dead so he can't unfuck the mess he made
I would have loved to have watched you during the nuke scene. I bet your were fidgeting through the entire sequence. "When does this end! I don't get it"
Word of the day: Lynched
Lynch tries too hard and so fo you. Theres no difference between his garbage which is made incomprehensible on purpose and his garbage which is made incomprehensible by having over an hours worth of content cut from it. You fags will eat it up regardless
>got a light? got a light? got a light?
xddd epic lynch ftw
to be fair, you have to have a pretty high IQ to get a light. the fire is subtle and effected by wind.
>God of light
LYNCHED
that's exactly the point of fwwm and the return. people like you are not supposed to like them. he made them to filter out all the people who enjoyed the corniest parts of twin peaks which he was forced to add to a more mainstream production. like this "twin peaks is comfykino <333333333 laura palmer is the Vibes <3333" is the type of shit lynch clearly despises
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It makes midwits feel smart
i don’t think anyone would describe twin peaks as smart. that’s a midwit criticism
>t.midwit
my iq is 130. firmly out of midwit-tier
>Nothing happens!
Not everything needs to involve a Big Bad(TM) that requires an overwhelming response from a ragtag group in brightly colored costumes. Sometimes, a nice human story is just nice to see. Fucking dipshit.
so Janey-E and Sonny Jim are clearly not real people right?
but Twin Peaks does have big bads (Leland/Bob in the old series and Mr. C and Judy in The Return)
filtered aka lynched
Ray should've gotten an Emmy for this role
hollywood gets back at lynch by purposely snubbing the actors he uses. it's pretty consistent if you look back at all his movies.
I will never comprehend how Kyle didn't even get a nomination for The Return for playing Dougie, Cooper-Dougie, Mr. C, Richard and OG Coop
laura dern never got a damn thing for any of her lynch work. I know people don't really like inland empire, but she was amazing in it and got nothing.
>Inland Empire
wat dis?
ohayo gozaimasu newfriend
lynch wrote and directed a movie on early shitty camcorder digital video starring laura dern
it's great but really out there
ngl it’s the only lynchkino that genuinely lynched me
I should probably watch it again
Thanks, anon. I will check it out.
i hope it's a good time
i need to watch it again too
it's definitely the least accessible of his features by a lot, it's really wild, very convoluted and inexplicable. it's a very interesting movie and it even has crossover appeal with shot on video weirdos
and i think a lot of people can't get over how amateur it looks because it was filmed with a cheap camcorder. i'd imagine it followed the same (laudable imo) ethos lynch had for some of the awful effects in the return
Except for that bitch with the tranny kid with liev
>"AHWOOOOOHOOOO WOOWOWOOO"
dramatic pause
>"That's a yes"
Sheryl Lee should have gotten an Oscar for FWWM
Its such a fucking shame Twin Peaks soured her career because that Fire Walk With Me performance is unreal.
She has Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead levels of manic intensity and at the same time the sensitivity of a child, and most importantly and switch flawlessly from one to the other in a snap and it’s not only believable but madly empathetic
One of the best performances in a horror movie Ive ever seen
And then she was in John Carpenter’s Vampires being exploited and then that was basically it for her career
What a shame because I think shes way better than anything Laura Dern was in
>Twin Peaks soured her career
how so?
I think he meant the critics did for shunning Twin Peaks and Lynch productions
Twin Peaks GAVE her her career. She was a nobody that Lynch picked to play a dead girl, then expanded her role cause he saw how good she was
She’s in some crappy erotic thriller with Tywin Lannister as her husband
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She was in Backbeat as Astrid Kirchherr. She had a decent little 90s indie actress career but nobody from that milieu made it to the Oscars without going thru Harvey Weinstein.
On the plus side, she's very humble and sweet. I got to meet her twice and she likes to talk about things she cares about outside movies. The actor who plays Andy is a fucking dick though
is she a con regular or something?
i'd like her autograph
lol how is andy's actor a dick? that's so weird given his character
Absolutely. She's been at the same con two years in a row. Maybe three, but I only went these past two times. Same with Andy. Last time I got to meet her, Ray Wise, Kimmy Robertson, Micheal Horse, and Sherilyn Fenn. It was for the FWWM anniversary though, not the con. They were all really cool, but the guy who plays Andy is just like a spaz. He got up from the signings just to take pictures of a stairwell, was talking shit to the faggy presenter (maybe that was justified to be honest), misspelled autographs on purpose, etc. And he had them screen his crappy art film twice. It just came across as obnoxious
lmao you make him sound the classic "oh, like you're doing now?" infetterence milky way pasta. just petty and specific and autistic
he sounds kind of based i can't deny it. not a hotshot ego prick but more mentally ill
is that it? is he into photomontage like pic related?
He's an "artist" (photographer)
I'm not sure the oscars even know Lynch kept working after Elephant Man
they were intentionally snubbing him and people who worked with him despite him filming some of the best performances of all time
originally AFI, which he came from, was too based for this world
Lynch is too spicy for the oscars. He's violent, vulgar, abstract and most of all independent. The academy was basically an institution founded to legitimize and aggrandize the big hollywood studio machine, and they have rarely ever recognized films, filmmakers or companies that operate outside of the machine or betray the middle-road goldielocks zone that every hollywood production from blockbusters to prestige oscar bait tries to aim for.
you're exactly right, and it's a damn shame
The oscars itself are so fucking stupid structurally also. The fact that you have to campaign to get a nomination like political candidates in an election is totally unfair and ripe for abuse and fraud. It's all a sham.
He was even better in FWWM, he had a constant terrifying presence. Really underrated actor
>he had a constant terrifying presence
Lynch did the right thing cutting scenes that showed Leland's warmer side. Fan cuts missed the point and did the wrong thing putting them back.
Lynch's The Missing Pieces restored them.
>cutting scenes that showed Leland's warmer side.
Wasn't that just one scene? And I think the point was to make BOB's control over Leland a bit more ambiguous and it also serves as a contrast to the later scene when he's is shouting at Laura for having dirty fingernails. Anyway pretty much all the deleted scenes are great and fit with the movie's general premise of showing Twin Peaks as a much darker place than it was in the show, but focusing on Laura Palmer's last few days alive makes the film work a lot better. Interjecting with unrelated characters would mess that up a bit even if the scenes are still really great. Ed and Norma's in particular
I really enjoy The Missing Pieces as a companion piece to FWWM, but the main film is better off without all those additional characters, agreed
can't agree, the extended Phillip Jeffries scene is perfection
Nah, the original scene is perfect and completely insane
why did he do it bros
There was this gum he liked, it went out of style
I'd have so much sex with her
>Audrey is back
>argues with her husband
>dances at the roadhouse
>wakes up in a hospital
>doesn't elaborate
>???
He really hates her, doesn't he?
She kinds deserves it. Also there's was more planned but there was some kind of shit show involving the actress' scheduling so timeline got fucked up.
>timeline got fucked up.
Good, the Charlie scenes are the best in the whole show and also the fucking creepiest.
No. She was originally meant to be in the Sylvia Horne role where she’d be choked out by her own son- and that was it for her character. She refused to come in for filming, and it affected the whole shooting schedule to the degree that her scenes were in fact the very last set of scenes filmed for the third season.
lynch is a very.. visceral director
>THAT'S MY SON'S MOTHER
Jesus what a violent show
wheres this gif from?
the blu-ray of Twin Peaks The Return, there is extensive behind the scenes documentation, this is Lynch directing Audrey's actress
I feel like that whole subplot was a pisstake on soap operas, just two people standing in a room having the same circular argument and getting nowhere.
Bro, did you even watch seasons 1 and 2?
he was a tulpa right
I like to think he was a casually evil asshole influenced by lodge spirits
What does that make Wally?
a slightly more normal counterpart of the doppelganger's rape baby
lucy's autism balanced him out
instead of a meth thug he's an anachronistic freewheeling greaser of the dharma. fun character, fun scene, highlight of michael cera's unfortunate career. glad he didn't overstay his welcome
He’s the catalyst of Leland’s death.
Guy just wanted a li--- omg
>"She tiptoed away from me, instead of creating a Power Embrace."
Ooooh! Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey. A kiddley divey too, wouldn't yoooou?
Mares eat oats and does eat oats and little lambs eat ivy. A kid will eat ivy too, wouldn't you?
Tell me about the monkey saying Judy.
There's silly shit, and then there's SILLY shit.
Ben Horne was a feet guy before it was hip
cut circus sideplot foreshadowing the next film
judy was the ringleader
early drafts of fwwm's cancelled sequel had cooper reincarnated as a lion
it was kind of like dr doolittle and that monkey would have arguably been its protagonist
It’s chet desmond
Hey, I know that gum. I use to chew it when I was a kid. That's my most favorite gum in the world.
So real shit, I saw this show for the very first time, and it blew my mind. I think that had to have been a year leading up to THE RETURN, which I watched as it debuted and with plenty of time to mull over the series and see FWWM before the new third season. But originally, I had sat down and I watched this series, first & second season and didn't skip the brooding biker parts. This scene sticks out to me, I mean how couldn't it? It is a major revelation after all. But I mean it stuck out to me personally.
Well after I finish the episode, I am tasked with going to the local grocery store to fill a supply run for the weekend. Well, wouldn't you know it? I walked over to the endcap at checkout, and there was a brand new opened display of my favorite childhood bubble gum. I chewed that shit religiously. In all honesty I hadn't seen or experienced this gum in my world once in a half decade.
Take away? I think twin peaks was speaking to me on a personal level. I happened upon a meme from the show in 'reality.' There's a number of other occurrences that were more than mere random chance. It made me think a great deal about the theory of unified thought that David talks about, explores and taps into.
Anyone else have this thing happen to them when watching Twin Peaks?
yeah i was a lonely recluse who wanted to kill himself when that faggy writer guy did it in s2
I'm sorry but this made me laugh. Know that I too have been to those dark places. My motto? Get your laughs in while you still can.
Times that you acted like the Palmer?
right before I started watching twin peaks I was having deep thoughts about the issues of writing fiction and bringing characters into existence just to sometime made them go thought so much misery and pain and later abandonment
Yeah what happened is they told Lynch to think up an ending. And he came up with the Bob and one armed man stuff. Then that extra part about all the characters being abandoned and stuck in a red room which is obviously the backstage of a show. The dwarf was because he wanted MJA for a movie about a guy that can control electricity so he through him in there.
However Lynch liked the ending so much he made it part of the show. First as a dream in Episode 2 and then making it a more integral part of it.
Regarding your characters, I think it only matters if other people see them in a medium. Then they are stuck in their own red room to be recalled and placed in new roles (like Laura forever becoming Maddie or Carrie Page or Laura again) forever more. Red Room is actually a terrifying idea. Worse still it applies to real people in this world of deep fakes and AI.
Are you saying I literally send my imaginary actors, those born of my thoughts, to the lodge, only to pluck them out abruptly and jarringly for further portrayals of their benign role?
Just pray it never happens to you. Chris to too dumb to realize he's been mentally tortured for garmanbozia. Being red roomed is terrible you can never leave. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGqVDQ-7u0g
>>>/x/
Do you think if a start a twin peaks thread there I'll be welcomed? No bullshit, I felt like I was communicating with the themes of the show on a deeply intimate level.
But who is the dreamer?
>Gordon says he dreamt of Monica Bellucci
>haha that mad man won't actually show Monica Bellucci, will he?
>she actually shows up
hell yeah
THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKENED
>mfw I listen to cope that S3 is as good as S1 and S2
>mfw lynchcels have to defend Cooper not showing up for 80% of the series
Dougie is Cooper
No, it's a different (and shit) character played by the same actor.
Call for help.
If you can't see it's the same character then you don't care about Coop as much as you think you do
This. It’s cooper trying to regain normalcy after years in the schizo lodge
The same actor.
Dougie is better than Cooper
must suck having to tell yourself that. I hope Lynch makes a couple more seasons of the Dougie Jones Show just for you, I'm sure you'd hang on to every moment.
was it worth it?
>"Let's go back to starting positions. Starting positions are more comfortable."
Chad king
Its actually better
Dougie is love
Dougie is life
The fact that you deny the Dougie kino is a testament to how bad your taste is. I'm not even joking. Dougie is king and you are lynched.
>Trying to make sense of Twin Peaks
gay ass video
die
I don't know why, but it is so infuriating when this guy does his DOG SHIT Lynch impersonation.
It's like he wants to give off the impression that he and Lynch are on the same level because he has FIGURED IT ALL OUT, even his speech pattern!
yeah lynch has a funny voice to imitate but that dude is obnoxious
i like how mark frost completely blew him off
What's the QRD on this? I searched and couldn't find anything. Very funny if true!
lol i just looked it up on the archive for him
i saw it on here not long ago
>all the replies are mad and don't repute the claims made in the video
There's good material there for interpretation, but by his own admission only have the secret sauce by omitting the Frost element for the sake of time. You can't parse this without the spiritual and occult elements.
>m.
Kill yourself, phonenagger.
I took my mum to see Fire Walk With Me at the picture theatre a few weeks ago after we binged the first two seasons together. Absolutely incredible experience. I was surprised she didn't mind the incestual rape!
She really didn't get The Return at all, but she did enjoy Dougie Jones and her favourite character, Andy.
Lynch is telling you word by word that Maddy was created in the dream to by a character
An extreme negative force removed Laura Palmer from existence. That force is Dale Cooper. He went back in time to 1989 and created a time paradox by preventing her death. Thus, without her death, he never goes back in time to save her. Thus she dies. Thus, he goes back to save her. Thus she never dies. Thus he never goes back in time. And so on and so on. The time paradox erases Laura. Cooper is Judy.
Does Cooper inevitably become trans and turn into the Large Bosomed Woman that opens the door for Mr. C at the Flying Dutchman motel? I always pictured her as the dark evil counterpart to Denise Bryson’s good human nature.
That's enough internet for me for today
i dunno about cooper being judy, but i think a reality-shattering paradox could be a good explanation for the ending
ultimately cooper had no clue what the fuck he was doing or what kind of powers he was playing with, that much is clear. that might be the whole point
Who do you think that is there?
well right before bowie appears and freaks out we see cooper's doppelganger on the security cameras so ostensibly he's referring to that, which i guess is a paranormal reference to the evil coop we see in the s2 finale that would be elaborated on in the return, as would extra coops like dougie
Judy is Laura's doppelganger
Sheryl Lee's cute soft hands
>Season 4 comes out
>it focuses entirely on the new Dougie that Coop created for Janey-E and Sonny Jim
>no Chet Desmond
>no real Cooper
>no Shelly
>no Tammy
These tracks were surly missed with all of that dead silence in The Return.
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>These tracks were surly missed with all of that dead silence in The Return.
im with you on that, i love the return but two things that i'm still not sold on are the dead silence and the cgi gore effects
I cope and rationalize with the odd gore affects by interpreting that the people tied with Mr. C getting shot are almost like the tulpas- like their odd blood solotch effext reminds me of the weird floating rock with a vomiting mouth that came floating out of original Dougie tulpas’ pile of clothes.
>Mrs Tremond's grandson is David Lynch's son
>he's a magician who teleports garmonbozia
>Mrs Tremond tells Donna about Harold Smith
>Harold leaves behind a note saying the same French phrase that Donna overheard in the Tremond house
>when Donna returns to the house, a completely different Mrs Tremond lives there who has no mother, grandmother, son, or grandson
>a year prior, Mrs Tremond used to go by Mrs Chalfont
>Chet Desmond finds the Jowday owl ring under a trailer belonging to the Chalfonts
>the trailer disappears
>Chet Desmond disappears
>when Carrie Page and Richard (believing himself to be Dale Cooper) show up at the Palmer house, an Alice Tremond opens the door, saying the house was previously owned by Chalfonts
>"What year is this?"
I’m too drunk and too sleepy to tell if this is schizo posting or if a random anon actually cracked the case.
What the fuck ARE the Tremond/Chalfonts? They helped Donna. But then they gave Laura the weird dream painting. Then they live in the Palmer house to trick Cooop??????
LYNCHED
sick bass
just kidding, i don't know. it seems like they're emissaries between the worlds
I think the Chalfonts and Tremonds are assassins who murdered Chet Desmond and Harold Smith, then went into hiding. Decades later, they murdered Sarah Palmer and stole her house.
they are magician/authors, most magic elements in twin peaks are a meta narrative on bringing fictional characters to live dramas
sweet reminder that you can listen to an infinite procedural customizable backgorund track inspired by twin peaks
https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/twinBlackLodgesSoundscapeGenerator.php
Anonymous#191241245, I will not soon forget your kindness and decency.
Explain episode 18 to me.
cooper got his oneitis and that powered him up to save the day. he was momentarily confused about what year it was because, in those final moments, they actually teleported back to before laura's dad got possessed and raped her - because in laying diane, cooper killed all the demons.
garmonbozia=creamed corn="anal creampie"
Coop finds out you can't physically outrun inter-dimensional entities, and going to extreme lengths will only fuck everything else up.
Lynch remakes Vertigo
"Laura!"
squawk
This is how my wife looks when I introduce her to the local black bull
I rewatched the international pilot again recently and realized how much the international pilot ending spells out the show.
The waiting room is literally the waiting room where actors have been warehoused. Because maybe the show wont continue. It's been 25 years the man says: gum you like is coming back in style.
Laura Palmer appears and he says this is my cousin but doesn't she look like Laura Palmer. Because if the show comes back on the air that's who the actress is going to play next, the cousin: Maddie! And she's waiting in there to come back on stage.
I can't believe I never realized that.
torrent please?
It appears in the tv show as the dream at the end of Episode 2.
However originally that scene was designed for the international pilot.
the youtube doesn't play the full thing but you already know it. Basically the show has ended, Bob is shot dead Mike. Now they are in this room for 25 years. Realizing its the actors waiting to come back to the show made me realize the cousin line. Because next time you see that actress in the show it will be Maddie.
I vaguely remember this. So what are you saying. We live inside a dream (tv show)?
>"She's my cousin. But doesn't she look almost exactly like Laura Palmer?"
>"But it... it is Laura Palmer."
i always loved that because it feels like even with context it only half-makes sense. The things Cooper experiences in there are confusing and mysterious even if you know the whole story.
this is why i think ultimately the great lore of the show is irrelevant and the dots don't need connected
it's about a man in a goofy world succumbing to hubris and getting involved way in over his head to the point of destroying his entire reality
yeah, the first chunk is obviously a parody, everything is turned on its head. i guess it is self-indulgent but i liked it. then its all rendered contextually pointless and we get the last days of laura, which i guess a lot of people felt was a retread. that's another reason why i think that scene should have been in the theatrical cut. it's so well-made and it also helps highlight the weirdo themes of possession, and it's already very strange because it's coming from a ceiling fan
>i want to taste through your mouth
that's visceral, that hits hard. that's a really short scene, it could have easily been included and i think it would help people enjoy the film more, i really wish it was in the theatrical cut
Can someone sum up the plot of season 2 for me?
>they find out who killed laura
>evil fbi agent becomes the new villain
>ben horne becomes a neo-confederate
>audrey falls in love with billy zane
>piper laurie does yellowface
That's all I remember
>>ben horne becomes a neo-confederate
The only subplot worth watching the season for.
trying to think of what you need to watch the finale
cooper got with some girl who wasn't in s1
there's some kind of serial killer or whatever who has a history with cooper
i think that's it, lynch throws it all out the window
Uhhh the entire lodge mythos is expanded upon
uhhhh how, because i haven't watched s2 in a decade
like in s2e1 where we see the giant? the few lynch episodes of s2 are mandatory viewing
i just mean the stuff you need to understand the context of the s2 finale. most of the season ends up superfluous
No, Cooper and the gang learning where and what the Black Lodge is. Also Earle's obsession with it.
Hawk says if you face the black lodge with imperfect courage, it will utterly annihilate your soul.
It completely mogged Oppenheimer. Years and years later.
To be honest i couldn't get into the show because outside of Cooper and I think the native guy, everyone seemed like a piece of shit who deserved to be shot
S'cuse me?
black grandmas
I thought season 3 was kino. The episode with the nuclear explosion was amazing.
it was something special. it was strange waiting for an episode to come out every week and then seeing that
truly classic lynch
The entire "got a light" sequence was genuinely creepy to me.
the whole thing was
i wasn't a huge fan of the return but e8 has some of the best stuff lynch has ever made
Also this
Wasn't around here when the episode premiered. How'd it go? I remember tons of people getting filtered all over during the first three episodes. Especially funny when it was boomers going "I remember that show! Sure ain't what it used to be..."
no one knew what to make of it
it was mostly david lunch donut and eddie veddar "cooper never gets his memory back" memes
The absolute brutal cucking of the “copper never gets his memory back” spammers when he finally got his memory back and the Eddie Vedder song turned out to be a red herring was glorious.
lmao that was a beautiful thing, those guys (that guy?) were annoying and demoralizing. return threads were fun, it was just obnoxious how the slightest criticism or question was followed by a choir of LYNCHED LYNCHED LYNCHED LYNCHED
Some people loved it, some people hated it. I think that's how every lynch film or show is though.
actually 3/4 posts were just people saying LYNCHED
LYNCHED
Also the helllooooooooooooo mr jackpots meme.
Season 3 was like a bus that started off at full capacity, and a few people got off at each stop. After 18 stops only the most worthy and enlightened Lynchians remained.
I waited a long time to watch the final episode. I thought I got my second wind when Coop finally woke up, but alas, I was lynched out. I didn't watch the final episode until 2 months later. Maybe I'm a smoothbrain, but I can only handle so much surrealism at once, anon.
I'm this guy
and I posted in twin peak threads preceding as well as during the release of The Return. Some of my favorite time spent on this website, truthfully. That and the power rangers marathon, and the time I tracked a cereal killer on /b/. Not really in that order mind you, but they were all monumental to me at the time.
>and the time I tracked a cereal killer on /b/.
What the fuck, you became Coop?
He will be in Lynch's new Post apocalypse series.
wisteria? unrecorded night?
i remember when that was a thing
I definitely didn't understand the whole one punch man part of season 3. Him punching the flying orb bob made me kek.
it wasn't simply pretending to be retarded, it was retarded
i think that's the whole point of that subplot. it's no wonder it's resolved when cooper gets his memory back and begins the process of destroying the entire universe
It has something to do with destiny and free will. I don’t know exactly what it all means but it’s something to think about.
All I know is he used a rubber glove to kill the being that gets around in electricity. That’s all I got.
Reminder that nerd made a 5 hour video explaining the show and he wasn't even close
i listened to his video years ago and can't even remember what his point was
what's it all about, lay it out man
it’s essentially a big metaphor for “tv rots your brain” according to that video
It's all Hindu cosmology. Lynch has always been big on it with his meditation stuff. The lodge, golden egg, tulpas, dopplegangers, interdimensional beings, all the weird stuff is ripped straight from vedic philosophy. Obviously most westerners don't have a clue about all that which is why no one really picks up on it. He uses it in almost all of his films
does it show up in mulholland drive or blue velvet for example? not saying it doesn't, i don't really know. i don't think transcendental meditation gets very theological
i think a lot of that stuff comes from mark frost. i'm almost positive he said tulpas for example came from him
although frost and lynch said that a lot of things you think would come from one of them actually came from the other. you got examples from lynch's other works?
It's not so direct in his other work, they just all become clearer when you understand the groundwork he's building on. Basically his films take place in a world where vedeism is real which explains a lot of the strange stuff he's known for
Forgot to mention that the whole ending sequence of Mulholland is a pretty good example
you mean the elderly couple coming at her or all the stuff with no hay banda and entering the jumpscare hobo's box?
i just don't know anything about vedism really. i read lord of light by robert zelazny if that counts
i'm just curious what the heck you mean if you want to lay it out a little
I'd have to lay out of all of vedic philosophy and its interpretations lol but yes that's the part I meant. Best advice to to read up on it yourself and you'll see the links on rewatching
i named multiple parts, i didn't know what you meant by "the whole ending sequence". from club silencio i'd imagine but i don't know
i've just seen a lot of discussion about these films and never seen anything like that, and you're acting as if it's self-evident: just study this religion and suddenly lynch takes on a new light
idk buddy, you can't roughly explain what you mean?
You're exactly right,you'd have to go on a deep dive into the religion like Lynch did, which inspired so much of his work. It's not absolutely everything, he's an artist after all. But he's massively inspired by it
alright ranjesh, you totally convinced me with your awkward platitudes. you can't supply just one little example about this thing lynch never mentioned, that i've never seen anyone discuss, that is apparently quintessential to truly understanding his work.
weirdo
Fucking dick I took time to respond to you you want be to sum up all of vedic philosophy and its connection to Lynch's work for you? Fuck off. Google "Hinduism golden egg" it's exactly what the Laura golden ball is. If you can't figure the rest out in your own then suck my dick I gave you all the clues. I probably whiter than you as well. Fucking ASS
lol no, you didn't. you postured like a weirdo. that was the first substantial thing you've said. you act like it's so simple, yet in the same breath say it takes so much time and effort to explain. it's ridiculous.
It's not ridiculous it's just hard and a time sink to learn an entire fucking religion to understand the guys work,don't put that shit on me. If you want to know but too brain lazy to do the research yourself it anit my fault . Go back to thinking it's all muh meta teevee if you want you ignorant fuck. As if the hours upon hours of lynch talking about transcendental meditation isn't enough. Don't just eat shit, eat my shit. I am lynched by you, you retard
lmao
>lazy
man, i don't mean to be rude because you seem upset, but am i supposed to start reading random religious tomes to try to substantiate your lynch theories?
what the hell are you on about? either point me in a certain direction, talk about what you believe in, or stop this bizarre behavior
I literally told you google golden egg Hinduism, that's your starting point, off with you now
you suck at conversing and come off really spergy. i'll look into it, but how about off with you buddy boy
Google my balls while you're at it dumbo
so how again does mulholland drive fit into poojeet religion? you went out of your way to dodge that one
You're asking for direct correlations when I've already told you his other work isn't as direct as twin peaks. Im telling you that lynch is a fucking massive enthusiast of vedeism and Hindu cosmology and its reflected in his work. The shit at the end of Mulholland could be anything from the Maya illusory goddess to something happening between purveyors of other realms. The point im making to you is that lynch loves this stuff and by reading about it you'll better understand his influences and therefore his work. Even if you asked lynch himself "wut happen" he wouldn't have an answer for you
that's cool. we got off on wrong. i don't wanna fight you buddy, i was just curious what you thought and felt you were being evasive. you seemed to state so definitively how influential this school of thought clearly is on the work, and when i asked about it you just insisted on how complicated it was. if you feel so strongly about it, why not discuss it? and if you're gonna insist on independent research, at least throw out a book or two. i got caught up in the spirit of the shitshow and well i'm sorry. no hard feelings. i'll look into it
No worries I've just been on the town so drunker each post, just having a laugh W U. Really though, this stuff is the major influence in all of lynchs work. It's the pool he draws from and the lens through which he sees the world. But it's that mixed with someone who was always kind of avant garde anyway. E.g. Eraserhead
Bonus fact the white horse motif comes from an old documentary Lynch saw as a kid, where for some reason this white stallion got shot in the head for being injured or something. Just an example of some of the weird stuff that was his own
Krishna’s Quads, center yourself child. If you rise to the anons bait you will never escape Samsara!
Also just to put a nice little bow on it, the return showed the catalyst for all this being the atom bomb. Who did the creator of said bomb so famously reference? Vishnu.
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I want to go back
When are we rewatching it all together boys, bring back /tpg/. Which neet has no job and enough time to organise it.
i can fix her
S3 has more bad than good
>tfw you will never be this Cinemaphile
why is their skin violet
SOVLful 90s lighting
>what is early morning sunlight
Very clearly a midday in California
Washington state
Pppfffttttt you're so naive, only the pilot was filmed on location.
they have their own sun in california?
A smal violet one, evidently.
or maybe the sun scatters light differently during the morning hours
Or just shitty lighting that only worked on shitty late 1980s TVs
Lynch said Lost Highway takes place in the Twin Peaks universe, which is pretty obvious if you watch it anyway. But recently I found out that Mulholland Drive was originally meant to be an Audrey Horne spin-off before it was given to Naomi Watts aka Janey-E. With that in mind, how does Unrecorded Night aka Wistera felate to Twink Peaks?
Bob was a work colleague of Leland's. Together they raped and killed Leland's daughter, who was conceived by God by gold splurging. Then Jowday came to Twin Peaks to come up with a plot to erase Laura from existence so she can never going to will have been raped and murdered, under the alias Dale Cooper.
>Dick Tremayne is a Tulpa
>Little Nicky is a Tulpa
>Laura Palmer is a Tulpa of Maddy Ferguson
>Senorita Dido is your mother
>people arguing over what it means
>people telling people their interpretations are wrong
>nobody discusses how it made them feel
I did try to bring that up but I got told to take it to /x/
it runs the gamut but all i feel is pain
>"Why's he grabbing my head so hard if he intends to send me home?"
Ever had that eerie feeling that something's just... off? Like when you walk into a room and forget why, or when déjà vu hits so hard you're convinced you've lived that moment before? That's the essence of the rabbit hole of Twin Peaks, that's been messing with our minds for decades. And no, I'm not just talking about Judy.
The idea that we might be living in a dream isn't new. Reality is a broad concept, and for centuries, we've tried to define what's real and what's not.
The term "Lynchian" has become a cultural symbol for questioning our perceived reality. Movies, books, and even Christopher Nolan have suggested that we might be living in a dream. But, of course, there are skeptics who argue against this idea.
So, what truly matters? Whether we're in a dream or not, the questions it raises are essential. They force us to examine our lives, our choices, and our very existence. And perhaps, just perhaps, this quest for understanding is what truly counts.
tell me more buzzfeed gpt!
>paragraphs
>gpt
you realize that's
what, candlejack? that's
You really shouldn't say candlejack, you never know wh
FWWM had a lot of controversial scenes when it came out that some people felt they couldn't connect with, or that they didn't fit the idea of a Twin Peaks film, and sometimes outright ridiculed them.
The 5 biggest ones are:
> Leland raping Laura in her bed. People found it cheesy because it reminded them of, well, rapes, and were baffled by the implication that perhaps an orgy is about to take place, while also showing Bob and Laura being intimate, while the first two seasons did not have as explicit sexuality on screen
> All the scenes with Chet Desmond where they talk about Teresa Banks. People felt these take away from the excitement of having a Twin Peaks film because we never see Chet in the series
> Laura meeting Harold Smith. People didn't understand why Laura acted the way she did and threw herself at everyone and why she spoke in a creepy voice.
> Phillip Jeffries' long speech but perhaps even more particularly the cake orgasm moment, it baffled and made people feel uncomfortable seeing an orgasm on screen
> The dwarf scenes, people got bored there was so much reverse talk instead of action for those random moments of the film where they show the red room and the convenience store meeting, and did not understand the big words that were being used or found it annoying that he didn't speak normal and that there was no reason for the character to speak like that
What are your thoughts on each of those now, and what were your thoughts 30 years ago (assuming you saw the film back in the day, if not then just say how you feel about them now)?
people just didn’t enjoy that Lynch was implementing some world building but didn’t flesh it out to book-level but rather left things up for viewers to talk and decide upon. And it got pinned as “poorly constructed” and simultaneously duped as “boring” for also including said world-building.
i think the reason the second and third movie were cancelled, is because the first movie was marketed as a Twin Peaks film and didn't a good job of blending all the philosophical notions into a classic action blitz. so all the simpletons of cinema were forced to use brain cells to understand what was happening.
I don't think anybody expected Twin Peaks to ever turn into a "classic action blitz," what a bizarre statement
wtf did I just read
award winning experimental fiction
These were the best scenes in the movies. I think the rape scene got bashed by both women (who thought it was commercializing it) and men (who were just haters). The reverse speech scenes I think added another dimension to the universe, also showing elements that there is a developed society and rule of law in the Lodges such as the convenience store. Chet Desmond was amazing. People that bashed Chet obviously never tried to investigate a murder, especially in the late 80s, it was amazing. The Harold stuff, I think people are just anti-sex (whether closeted or not) and probably why they hated the Laura/Harold scene. Jeffries was a super important character for the lore, I think this was mostly due to him being mysterious that they didn't like him. I saw the movie recently and it was much better than I remember.
>and were baffled by the implication that perhaps an orgy is about to take place
I mean I know that happens later with Leo and Jaques but why'd you have to word it like that? kek
>Phillip Jeffries' long speech but perhaps even more particularly the cake orgasm moment, it baffled and made people feel uncomfortable seeing an orgasm on screen
>mfw a midwit gets FROSTED while sucking lynch's dick and doesn't realise
he looks like such a kind grandma
you didn't even notice that he was the log lady
Frost is a hack of unimaginable proportion. All you need to know about him is his outstandingly cringe script for season 2 finale, the script that Lynch had to rewrite on the fly and managed to turn into a fan-favorite episode.
Link to the script:
http://www.lynchnet.com/tp/tp29.html
Frost came up with the nuke in S3. On page it was half a page. In the finished show, Lynch turned it into a 10 minute long sequence
>I understand now, I should have cleaned my fingernails.
What's the more unnerving Twin Peaks scene?
>Leland examining Laura's fingernails.
>This fucking thing.
>get bored and decide to drop acid and watch The Return one day because irreparably damaging my psyche seems like a good thing to do on a Wednesday
>10 hours in and this fucking thing comes on screen
>mfw
If David Lynch could respond to any one (1) post in this thread. Which would it be and what would he say?
Hey it’s me David, get me some cigarettes please.
>"I had another Call of Duty 4 session this morning. It was pouring down on us on this massive ship. I believed myself fully immersed into the thrill of battle, when this silly bastard turned the corner, jumped into the air and 360°-no-scoped me. Furiously, I hurled the game pad toward my television. I logged off and as I sat there in silence, meditating, all the rage and fury left my body and I felt at once one with the world. I would like to thank this brave soldier for teaching me a lesson in humility."
-David Lynch, 2007
Something strange going on in this comments section.
>the next time you see me it won't be me
What did he mean by this?
Lynch knew the dwarf actor would betray him so he put that line in, then turned him into a brain tree 25 years later
The Virgin Noble Little Fella vs The Chad Clairvoyant Midwestern Auteur
>Fireman gives his cryptic clues
Cooper:
>"I understand."
Fireman:
>"You are far away.
18 episodes later:
>Coop cannot remember the clues (he wonders who Richard and Linda are in the motel)
>fumbles the questioning of Alice Tremond at the door
>"What year is this?"
It's one of the reasons Coop is such a great character. He's so cocky, and sure, and he handles all the cryptic stuff so smoothly, takes it all in stride and heads into the fray with confidence.
Then it gets out of hand once he's actually in the black lodge. He hasn't a clue what is going on, intent on investigating he hangs around for a bit, then it just clearly becomes too much for him and he just tries to run away. Then he gets stuck there for 25 years.
He's stuck there for 25 years, at some point he's come into contact with the white lodge with The Fireman, he once again is acting cocky "I understand." He immediately gets outplayed by Mr. C who's a master of all this stuff, being a resident of the black lodge. He's eventually able to reconnect his mind to his body via the power socket. He immediately recommences his investigation, takes charge of the situation, heads out to Twin Peaks where the Mr. C/Bob situation has been solved by The Fireman.
Still intent on being the cocky investigator who can handle every situation, especially now that he's been exposed to the black lodge for 25 years, he follows his intuition regarding his room key from The Great Northern. He remembers his instructions from The Fireman, probably a guy to listen to since he solved the Mr. C situation with a gardening glove and a British kid. He finally admits to someone he might be out of his depth with the "Once we cross, it could all be different."
His uncertainty turns out to be completely correct. He's confused, lost, probably scared, and just relying on his training and intuition.
He manages to seemingly find Laura, he's regained some of his cock-suredness, immediately takes "her" back to "her childhood home". Gets stopped at the door, and is left questioning what year it even is.
Across the three seasons, he goes from a decorated FBI agent with a firm understanding of Tibetan mysticism filled with a surety in his own ability, to a guy who doesn't even know what year it is.
It's a beautiful metaphor for adulthood, in a way.
same as Chet Desmond, Major Briggs and Phillip Jeffries. All lost to time and space
was it ever explained how Tammy obtained a mugshot of Dale Cooper sitting in the red room?
>Tammy Preston
>TP
>Twin Peaks
>Jowday
why wasn't he in the return? time schedule problems?
He would have been 115 years old when The Return was filming
>all those similar looking devices at the Fireman's
Just how many people has he led toward non-existence?
>non-existence
He still exists, just not in a form that can be wholly understood.
He has ascended to kettlehood.
i think he is the smoke inside the tin machine
Deus ex ollae
Same room!
I noticed The Dutchman's convenience store has the same layout as the Palmer house (with the stairs). And the painting Mrs Chalfont/Tremond gave Laura in FWWM has the same wallpaper as the Dutchman's too
The "119" girl's house is also a mirrored copy of the Palmer house.
Huh. Didn't know that. Is 119 girl supposed to be representative of what Laura probably would have become had she not died?
anyone baking?
uhhh new bread?