>Ezra doesn't save Ahsoka >Palpatine decides to set up a backup empire using the Sith cult that has always existed, clone himself dozens of times and some fricking how survives a point blank explosion of the Death Star
You are insane, because that would imply somehow Ezra failing to save Ahsoka gave Palpatine such an evilgasm it motivated him to get a lot more shit done.
>Multiverse Starwars
They cant accept and let character and stories die can they?
They have a literal fricking UNIVERSE created where they can create anything new with no limits of when and where they are with thousands of years apart but they just want to toy around and insert their same handful of pre-existing characters into everything don't they?
When a multiverse gets added into something it means nothing matters, canon is fake and can be manipulated and changed over and over again. There is no point, I'm happy I bailed on the industry.
I recall a theory that the Ahsoka show was going to be the Avengers Endgame equivalent of SW, where Ahsoka time travels to different eras from the franchise like the PT, OT, and ST. Possibly even traveling to the Old and High Republic eras because Filoni likes his fanservice.
That's not how the time travel works though, it's all one big stable time loop. They can never truly alter the timeline because it was always meant to happen.
The "Mando timeline" cope is especially silly when the season three trailer already revealed that Babu Frik from TROS will appear and the rumors/leaks imply Snoke or the Sith Eternal might pop up too
>and the rumors/leaks imply Snoke or the Sith Eternal might pop up too
Why would they bother with that when they know everybody fricking hates it? They've got a piece of Star Wars that's universally loved and they're just gradually going to try and force it into the piece of Star Wars everyone hates?
I mean they did say from the start that The Mandalorian was going to cover the rise of the First Order.
https://ew.com/tv/2019/09/04/the-mandalorian-first-order/
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Anonymous
I get that, I just mean that I wonder if Disney even realizes the horrible, inevitable fate they've locked themselves into with this gameplan. They're not gonna make people suddenly love the more-or-less unwatchable Sequel trilogy, all they can do is slowly watch their new popular darling slowly push away its audience.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They're not gonna make people suddenly love the more-or-less unwatchable Sequel trilogy, all they can do is slowly watch their new popular darling slowly push away its audience.
The prequel trilogy was also deemed unwatchable ten years ago but a kids cartoon and memes gaslit people into believing the movies themselves were actually good now, it'll happen eventually with the sequel trilogy too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This. >inb4 but the prequels were consistent and had good worldbuilding, the sequels are unredeemable
The Amazing Spider-Man movies were reclaimed last year, just by virtue of dropping their characters into a movie people actually liked and now you have people campaigning for ASM3. Lucasfilm is somehow even less competent than Sony, but with some basic effort they can revive their stillbirth too.
They already dealt with the time travel stuff, guess they're going for the multiverses now. At least it does give us an idea of how powerful the force is.
Multiverse so are we going to have stuff from different levels of Canon hopping in certain multiverses of importance? Including Lego Star Wars multiverse?
>Multiverse Starwars
They cant accept and let character and stories die can they?
They have a literal fricking UNIVERSE created where they can create anything new with no limits of when and where they are with thousands of years apart but they just want to toy around and insert their same handful of pre-existing characters into everything don't they?
When a multiverse gets added into something it means nothing matters, canon is fake and can be manipulated and changed over and over again. There is no point, I'm happy I bailed on the industry.
>When a multiverse gets added into something it means nothing matters, canon is fake and can be manipulated and changed over and over again.
While, ironically and just like you've pointed out, only focusing on the same small handful of characters over and over again forever.
I can't believe Disney Wars is actually making the Expanded Universe look good.
Which is ironic because I believe Star Wars has an advantage over Marvel in that everything doesn't need to be interconnected and setup some future event.
They can be just like DC right now where they're just making several projects that differ wildly from each other but are still set in the same universe but they're doing the exact opposite because memberberries are the only things fans respond truly well to so we're going to be mostly stuck with the Skywalkers forever.
I'm pretty sure Star Wars is being kept extremely separate from any other Disney on IP's with the exception of that crossover Phineas and Ferb in Star Wars Episode but they said that was not canon in the intro.
>actor says something vague >people take it out of context >JewTubers and the likes of them, those "pop-culture clickbaiters", create bullshit articles and b***h about it to get that sweet ad revenue >morons on Cinemaphile take the bait
Well if they say that the sequel trilogy can now be discarded as non canon or alt reality then we can begin to heal. But I don't trust them to admit they did anything wrong.
Please let go. Disney Star Wars will never be good. They just saw it worked with Marvel and DC and think they can make more money with more universes. So we'll get a universe where Luke us a plucky POC with the exaggerated swagger of a black teen, etc.
Disney Star Wars has been pretty good, all things considered, save for the ST and Obi-Wan Kenobi show. But every huge franchise tends to have some duds here and there. But it's hip to say Disney has raped everyone's mother, and they're worse than Hitler, so I guess whatever. Just like when people were saying George Lucas raped their childhood.
Anyway, can't wait for Bad Batch S2 and TotJ.
>But it's hip to say Disney has raped everyone's mother, and they're worse than Hitler, so I guess whatever.
Man Disney has pissed me off with a lot of stuff but truer words have not been spoken on this board in a long time.
>Wreck Star Wars beyond repair >Sprint to establish a multiverse so that you can milk your own shitty content forever
This shit should be classified as a war crime, seriously.
This should be classified as the Detective Comics maneuver. DC mucked their shit up so bad they actually wrecked the concept of a multiverse and functional continuity despite having an infinite (if they want it to be) multiverse to work with and multiple fricking reboots and a fricking floating timeline to soft retcon anything stupid but forgettable.
They probably just make a point about how there are multiple potential futures, which is why the future is so hard to predict even for a Jedi Master, then these idiots go, "HOLY SHIT MULTIPLE TIMELINES CONFIRMED!"
To put it another way, plenty of Jedi had visions of rising to glory during the Clone Wars but wound up Grievously injured and their saber stuck on his belt, or had a vision of living to a ripe old age...right before Order 66. Basically the Force can show you all kinds of things that might happen, but you have the free will to frick it up. Or just get fricked over by someone else. Or just get fricked by bad luck.
There's no saving Star Wars. The EU books were insane babble, the Sequel Trilogy and its associated products have been the result of three writing teams fighting with each other over control of the story, and the first season of the Mandalorian was only good because it had nothing to do with any of that bullshit.
MCU, Star Wars, Disney animated films. I'm done. Let the company die.
>and the first season of the Mandalorian was only good because it had nothing to do with any of that bullshit.
Kinda like how Rogue 1 isn't beloved because it's a good movie or even a worthy addition to the franchise, but simply because it was the least terrible Disney Wars film and people's standards have been lowered substantially.
I would actually say Rogue One is the second worst Disney SW film, just behind TROS. It's literally only held up because of the space battle and Darth Vader hallway scene.
Why those Ahsoka look so fricking ugly in this picture? I remember having a crush on her when I was a kid back when clone wars came out and now she looks like this. Frick you Disney.
I don't want Star Wars to have an official multiverse even if there are various continuities within the property. Can't any franchise leave a little mystery anymore?
>Multiverse
It's insane to me how Disney has an entire universe with a history that spans 25,000 years of crazy and unique adventures, and the only thing they can think of is a fricking multiverse.
It's ironic, introducing infinite parallel universes just makes the story feel that much smaller.
Anon, the multiverse would only exist so they can re-add back stuff from Legends and pick and choose what stories they wanna say are still canon or what characters/characterizations are canon via the multiverse.
It's solely so they can have their cake and eat it too with shit like Rey and Dark Rey
I don't want Star Wars to have an official multiverse even if there are various continuities within the property. Can't any franchise leave a little mystery anymore?
Consider this: multiverse was always a thing in Star Wars.
>TOTAL FILM: The Star Wars universe has expanded far beyond the movies. How much leeway do the game makers and novel writers have? >GEORGE LUCAS: They have their own kind of world. There's three pillars of Star Wars. I'll probably get in trouble for this but it's OK! There's three pillars: the father, the son and the holy ghost. I'm the father, Howard Roffman [president of Lucas Licensing] is the son and the holy ghost is the fans, this kind of ethereal world of people coming up with all kinds of different ideas and histories. Now these three different pillars don't always match, but the movies and TV shows are all under my control and they are consistent within themselves. Howard tries to be consistent but sometimes he goes off on tangents and it's hard to hold him back. He once said to me that there are two Star Trek universes: there's the TV show and then there's all the spin-offs. He said that these were completely different and didn't have anything to do with each other. So I said, "OK, go ahead." In the early days I told them that they couldn't do anything about how Darth Vader was born, for obvious reasons, but otherwise I pretty much let them do whatever they wanted.
>Consider this: multiverse was always a thing in Star Wars.
Frick off. George Lucas didn't give a shit about the EU, didn't read a book and never played a game.
The only reason he was humoring it was because he made money off the royalties from the fans that were stupid enough to think he gave a shit.
No, I mean he recognized it as a separate universe, which can be essentially described as a "multiverse." What's so bad about it? What if, theoretically, Disney does the same? What's so bad about the possibility of them developing other stories that do not necessarily fall into their main "timeline"/universe? Weren't some people b***hing that they effectively discontinued the EU timeline?
Anyway, the OP is just stupid bait, and there is really no point in talking about anything here, other than b***hing about Star Wars for the sake of b***hing, based on nothing but clickbait article, because most of the people here are miserable husks.
No, what he said was that it wasn't part of his story.
The other "worlds" were just other people who were using his licence to make money.
To think of it as a "multiverse" doesn't make any sense because there's no interaction between the two.
Corporate multiverses are terrible because it means that the producers can undo anything, and nothing matters. Palpatine died? No problem, because he didn't in this universe and now he's coming to get you! It's a creative deadlock.
>Consider this: multiverse was always a thing in Star Wars.
Frick off. George Lucas didn't give a shit about the EU, didn't read a book and never played a game.
The only reason he was humoring it was because he made money off the royalties from the fans that were stupid enough to think he gave a shit.
No, I mean he recognized it as a separate universe, which can be essentially described as a "multiverse." What's so bad about it? What if, theoretically, Disney does the same? What's so bad about the possibility of them developing other stories that do not necessarily fall into their main "timeline"/universe? Weren't some people b***hing that they effectively discontinued the EU timeline?
Anyway, the OP is just stupid bait, and there is really no point in talking about anything here, other than b***hing about Star Wars for the sake of b***hing, based on nothing but clickbait article, because most of the people here are miserable husks.
No, what he said was that it wasn't part of his story.
The other "worlds" were just other people who were using his licence to make money.
To think of it as a "multiverse" doesn't make any sense because there's no interaction between the two.
Corporate multiverses are terrible because it means that the producers can undo anything, and nothing matters. Palpatine died? No problem, because he didn't in this universe and now he's coming to get you! It's a creative deadlock.
You both have a fundamental misunderstanding of the old EU tier system. Back in the day everything was "canon" unless specifically stated otherwise but George's policy was quite simply that the movies were king and nothing should ever interfere or contradict them (which he fricked up when introduced Ahsoka in TCW, oops). There was never a multiverse.
>multiverse
This is it now isn't it? The same creatively bankrupt stories capitalizing on the same characters and concepts over and over again. No risks, no innovation, no consequences, just another "immortal brand character."
The idea of calling any specific artist’s fictional setting a “universe” is fricking sickening and beyond obnoxious. Every piece of fiction does not need to have some sort of loose connection to everything else. I’m sick of seeing shit like how “Glup Shitto is a secret connection to Count Thunderwiener’s secret plans to save the entire franchise”.
Now, we should be discussing actual matters, like how ||The T-15 has been made obsolete||
And they call me insane when I spoke of the fact that the Sequel Trilogy was the dark timeline where Ezra did not save Ahsoka.
I still call you insane because I'm the one that said that and you're just trying to take credit
Multiple people have said it and we have all been called insane.
>Ezra doesn't save Ahsoka
>Palpatine decides to set up a backup empire using the Sith cult that has always existed, clone himself dozens of times and some fricking how survives a point blank explosion of the Death Star
You are insane, because that would imply somehow Ezra failing to save Ahsoka gave Palpatine such an evilgasm it motivated him to get a lot more shit done.
New to Sith Lords I see.
I said anon was insane, not necessarily incorrect, because it is an absurd leap of logic and yet entirely plausible in the context of Sith Lords.
I recall a theory that the Ahsoka show was going to be the Avengers Endgame equivalent of SW, where Ahsoka time travels to different eras from the franchise like the PT, OT, and ST. Possibly even traveling to the Old and High Republic eras because Filoni likes his fanservice.
That's not how the time travel works though, it's all one big stable time loop. They can never truly alter the timeline because it was always meant to happen.
The "Mando timeline" cope is especially silly when the season three trailer already revealed that Babu Frik from TROS will appear and the rumors/leaks imply Snoke or the Sith Eternal might pop up too
>and the rumors/leaks imply Snoke or the Sith Eternal might pop up too
Why would they bother with that when they know everybody fricking hates it? They've got a piece of Star Wars that's universally loved and they're just gradually going to try and force it into the piece of Star Wars everyone hates?
I mean they did say from the start that The Mandalorian was going to cover the rise of the First Order.
https://ew.com/tv/2019/09/04/the-mandalorian-first-order/
I get that, I just mean that I wonder if Disney even realizes the horrible, inevitable fate they've locked themselves into with this gameplan. They're not gonna make people suddenly love the more-or-less unwatchable Sequel trilogy, all they can do is slowly watch their new popular darling slowly push away its audience.
>They're not gonna make people suddenly love the more-or-less unwatchable Sequel trilogy, all they can do is slowly watch their new popular darling slowly push away its audience.
The prequel trilogy was also deemed unwatchable ten years ago but a kids cartoon and memes gaslit people into believing the movies themselves were actually good now, it'll happen eventually with the sequel trilogy too.
This.
>inb4 but the prequels were consistent and had good worldbuilding, the sequels are unredeemable
The Amazing Spider-Man movies were reclaimed last year, just by virtue of dropping their characters into a movie people actually liked and now you have people campaigning for ASM3. Lucasfilm is somehow even less competent than Sony, but with some basic effort they can revive their stillbirth too.
Who the hell is Babu Frik?
Based. Darth Cowboy has saved us and anti Filonigays will eat CROW
The timeline where Ezra and Ahsoka live is what I'd describe as the dark one.
I'm assuming it just means more spinoffs and the like that don't take place in the mainline stories
Like that pseudo-anime a while back
They already dealt with the time travel stuff, guess they're going for the multiverses now. At least it does give us an idea of how powerful the force is.
We are so fricked
Multiverse so are we going to have stuff from different levels of Canon hopping in certain multiverses of importance? Including Lego Star Wars multiverse?
meaningless. the further away you get from the original movies the less star wars matters.
So... they finally bowed to EU supremacy and want to use it again?
>Multiverse Starwars
They cant accept and let character and stories die can they?
They have a literal fricking UNIVERSE created where they can create anything new with no limits of when and where they are with thousands of years apart but they just want to toy around and insert their same handful of pre-existing characters into everything don't they?
When a multiverse gets added into something it means nothing matters, canon is fake and can be manipulated and changed over and over again. There is no point, I'm happy I bailed on the industry.
>When a multiverse gets added into something it means nothing matters, canon is fake and can be manipulated and changed over and over again.
While, ironically and just like you've pointed out, only focusing on the same small handful of characters over and over again forever.
I can't believe Disney Wars is actually making the Expanded Universe look good.
They're trying to turn Star Wars into a Marvel series where they can just milk the same characters forever
Which is ironic because I believe Star Wars has an advantage over Marvel in that everything doesn't need to be interconnected and setup some future event.
They can be just like DC right now where they're just making several projects that differ wildly from each other but are still set in the same universe but they're doing the exact opposite because memberberries are the only things fans respond truly well to so we're going to be mostly stuck with the Skywalkers forever.
Amazing how Star Wars fans keep falling for bullshit clickbait
Anything thqt erases tbe sequel Trilogy is good. Based ashoka
>multiverse
They just want to remake the original trilogy now that the original cast is either dead or geriatric, don't they.
Almost certainly
Dead, geriatric, or white
They already remade A New Hope and soft remade Empire Strikes Back.
Isn’t it canonically just part of the marvel multiverse?
I'm pretty sure Star Wars is being kept extremely separate from any other Disney on IP's with the exception of that crossover Phineas and Ferb in Star Wars Episode but they said that was not canon in the intro.
Could this be part of some long term goal to have the Avengers team up with some Jedi?
Source or it’s clickbait bullshit
>multiverse
If it flushes the prequels I'm game.
>actor says something vague
>people take it out of context
>JewTubers and the likes of them, those "pop-culture clickbaiters", create bullshit articles and b***h about it to get that sweet ad revenue
>morons on Cinemaphile take the bait
Well if they say that the sequel trilogy can now be discarded as non canon or alt reality then we can begin to heal. But I don't trust them to admit they did anything wrong.
Don't hold your breath. If Star Wars ever admitted it did anything wrong, fricking Life Day would never have happened.
Please let go. Disney Star Wars will never be good. They just saw it worked with Marvel and DC and think they can make more money with more universes. So we'll get a universe where Luke us a plucky POC with the exaggerated swagger of a black teen, etc.
Some people just can't let go, sadly. This is why Marvel and DC are still in business.
Disney Star Wars has been pretty good, all things considered, save for the ST and Obi-Wan Kenobi show. But every huge franchise tends to have some duds here and there. But it's hip to say Disney has raped everyone's mother, and they're worse than Hitler, so I guess whatever. Just like when people were saying George Lucas raped their childhood.
Anyway, can't wait for Bad Batch S2 and TotJ.
>But it's hip to say Disney has raped everyone's mother, and they're worse than Hitler, so I guess whatever.
Man Disney has pissed me off with a lot of stuff but truer words have not been spoken on this board in a long time.
You are so full of shit with the apologetics.
https://archive.is/qezqc
Feels good EU chads.
Inb4 all the original shit is reintroduced as canon elseworlds.
When will you ass-hats learn you lesson about monkey paws?
>Wreck Star Wars beyond repair
>Sprint to establish a multiverse so that you can milk your own shitty content forever
This shit should be classified as a war crime, seriously.
This should be classified as the Detective Comics maneuver. DC mucked their shit up so bad they actually wrecked the concept of a multiverse and functional continuity despite having an infinite (if they want it to be) multiverse to work with and multiple fricking reboots and a fricking floating timeline to soft retcon anything stupid but forgettable.
They probably just make a point about how there are multiple potential futures, which is why the future is so hard to predict even for a Jedi Master, then these idiots go, "HOLY SHIT MULTIPLE TIMELINES CONFIRMED!"
To put it another way, plenty of Jedi had visions of rising to glory during the Clone Wars but wound up Grievously injured and their saber stuck on his belt, or had a vision of living to a ripe old age...right before Order 66. Basically the Force can show you all kinds of things that might happen, but you have the free will to frick it up. Or just get fricked over by someone else. Or just get fricked by bad luck.
There's no saving Star Wars. The EU books were insane babble, the Sequel Trilogy and its associated products have been the result of three writing teams fighting with each other over control of the story, and the first season of the Mandalorian was only good because it had nothing to do with any of that bullshit.
MCU, Star Wars, Disney animated films. I'm done. Let the company die.
>and the first season of the Mandalorian was only good because it had nothing to do with any of that bullshit.
Kinda like how Rogue 1 isn't beloved because it's a good movie or even a worthy addition to the franchise, but simply because it was the least terrible Disney Wars film and people's standards have been lowered substantially.
I would actually say Rogue One is the second worst Disney SW film, just behind TROS. It's literally only held up because of the space battle and Darth Vader hallway scene.
I agree. It adds nothing to the universe, and actually makes ANH worse.
Why those Ahsoka look so fricking ugly in this picture? I remember having a crush on her when I was a kid back when clone wars came out and now she looks like this. Frick you Disney.
I can understand why everyone hates the MCU but its not their fault every show producer wants to copy it
Everything has to be a fricking multiverse now huh
can we get a universe where we get a sexy Twi'lek protaganist.
>multiverse
Glad I'm not the only one
It's insane to me how Disney has an entire universe with a history that spans 25,000 years of crazy and unique adventures, and the only thing they can think of is a fricking multiverse.
It's ironic, introducing infinite parallel universes just makes the story feel that much smaller.
Anon, the multiverse would only exist so they can re-add back stuff from Legends and pick and choose what stories they wanna say are still canon or what characters/characterizations are canon via the multiverse.
It's solely so they can have their cake and eat it too with shit like Rey and Dark Rey
I don't want Star Wars to have an official multiverse even if there are various continuities within the property. Can't any franchise leave a little mystery anymore?
>Multiverse
Consider this: multiverse was always a thing in Star Wars.
>TOTAL FILM: The Star Wars universe has expanded far beyond the movies. How much leeway do the game makers and novel writers have?
>GEORGE LUCAS: They have their own kind of world. There's three pillars of Star Wars. I'll probably get in trouble for this but it's OK! There's three pillars: the father, the son and the holy ghost. I'm the father, Howard Roffman [president of Lucas Licensing] is the son and the holy ghost is the fans, this kind of ethereal world of people coming up with all kinds of different ideas and histories. Now these three different pillars don't always match, but the movies and TV shows are all under my control and they are consistent within themselves. Howard tries to be consistent but sometimes he goes off on tangents and it's hard to hold him back. He once said to me that there are two Star Trek universes: there's the TV show and then there's all the spin-offs. He said that these were completely different and didn't have anything to do with each other. So I said, "OK, go ahead." In the early days I told them that they couldn't do anything about how Darth Vader was born, for obvious reasons, but otherwise I pretty much let them do whatever they wanted.
>Consider this: multiverse was always a thing in Star Wars.
Frick off. George Lucas didn't give a shit about the EU, didn't read a book and never played a game.
The only reason he was humoring it was because he made money off the royalties from the fans that were stupid enough to think he gave a shit.
No, I mean he recognized it as a separate universe, which can be essentially described as a "multiverse." What's so bad about it? What if, theoretically, Disney does the same? What's so bad about the possibility of them developing other stories that do not necessarily fall into their main "timeline"/universe? Weren't some people b***hing that they effectively discontinued the EU timeline?
Anyway, the OP is just stupid bait, and there is really no point in talking about anything here, other than b***hing about Star Wars for the sake of b***hing, based on nothing but clickbait article, because most of the people here are miserable husks.
No, what he said was that it wasn't part of his story.
The other "worlds" were just other people who were using his licence to make money.
To think of it as a "multiverse" doesn't make any sense because there's no interaction between the two.
Corporate multiverses are terrible because it means that the producers can undo anything, and nothing matters. Palpatine died? No problem, because he didn't in this universe and now he's coming to get you! It's a creative deadlock.
You both have a fundamental misunderstanding of the old EU tier system. Back in the day everything was "canon" unless specifically stated otherwise but George's policy was quite simply that the movies were king and nothing should ever interfere or contradict them (which he fricked up when introduced Ahsoka in TCW, oops). There was never a multiverse.
>multiverse
This is it now isn't it? The same creatively bankrupt stories capitalizing on the same characters and concepts over and over again. No risks, no innovation, no consequences, just another "immortal brand character."
Is Ahsoka one of the best examples, of writers pet?
Just let me know when they retcon the sequel trilogy
Still won't watch or buy anything SW though, I just want to see it happen
The idea of calling any specific artist’s fictional setting a “universe” is fricking sickening and beyond obnoxious. Every piece of fiction does not need to have some sort of loose connection to everything else. I’m sick of seeing shit like how “Glup Shitto is a secret connection to Count Thunderwiener’s secret plans to save the entire franchise”.
Now, we should be discussing actual matters, like how ||The T-15 has been made obsolete||
>BRO WHAT IF JEDI WERE ON EARTH?
*Queue THX-1138 remake miniseries on Disney Plus*
*ahem*
frick Dave Filoni, frick Rebels, and FRICK the World Between Worlds