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if you're in a tv show with someone writing your life for dramatic effect then yes
literally all you have to do is talk to them bro
Lol, you must be tall and cute.
Ugly people get treated like rapist until they can prove otherwise
not that anon, but it is that easy. and i'm short and cute, 5'6" and have been with numerous women taller than me. don't be a sperg, or act like a fricking weirdo or flex your powerlevel and its that easy. would you like an example of someone considered conventionally good looking as well as had money that failed because they couldn't follow not sperging out? elliot rodgers.
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afraid not, if you can't stop talking about israelites and politics when speaking to a woman then you're fricked from the start. stay on this board seething
>If you can't find a girl you're a hecking nazi!
Jesus christ
How many female friends have you had during your life?
the exact number that makes you validate my opinions
I understand that its easier to deny reality and submerve yourself with incel cope, that way you can rationalize that its not your fault, that theres nothing you should be improving on. But anon, think, what is that accomplishing?
definitely a woman
Skill issue, ugly boi
>6'2
>have been called attractive by women, but have still never been approached or had any woman show interest in me
rape them
>but have still never been approached
unless you're famous or exceptionally attractive, you're going to have to initiate a convo.
women approach the men they are actually attracted to
you’re laying out the beta rules
>taking the lead is beta
okay. keep standing against the wall waiting for a women to sweep you off your feet lol.
who are you quoting
why are you attempting to define terms and set a narrative?
are you a women protecting the ego investments of a dying society? you seem like it
The way I've seen it, men will talk to a woman and if they're not interested they'll move on to the next one.
>he thinks every woman is the same
women with traditional values will rarely ever make the first move. Women who run through men will gladly make the first move, and then quickly move on to the next thing that catches their interest.
You're also under the impression that things are black and white, and the only time a relationship will ever work out will be when the woman makes the first move. But you know what? I think this is just you lying to yourself to justify your lack of effort of putting yourself out there. I did the same when I still desired a relationship.
assuming
i meet hundreds of women every day for my job
you’re really trying hard to defend tenets of a feminist society for some reason it’s almost as if you’re a woman poisoning the well so she doesn’t have to put in any effort
many such cases and then some
Believe what you want. I sincerely do not care. I'm just trying to help you understand that if you think the only time a relationship is going to work is when the woman makes the first move, you're lying to yourself.
who are you quoting?
women approach the men they are actually attracted to and the sun rises and sets and water is wet and you’re a woman
I don't believe I quoted anything in my post. I see what's going on here and I understand that nothing I say will get through to you. I just hope you realize one day that you're waiting for something that odds are, wont happen unless you're famous or 11/10.
Cognitive Dissonance is in full action.
a woman typed this post
She’s right though
>the way i’ve seen it
john marston literally preambling his feminist speech
women approach the men they are actually attracted to
you didn’t even deny it or argue it
>women approach the men they are actually attracted to
lmaoo enjoy being incel for life
why is the expectation always on men to approach the woman? Is there some sort of law that says women can never approach men?
you didn’t deny it or argue against it
you’re just lashing out by attempting to control the behavior of others rather than reflect upon your own self
men need not to change
women must do something
>women must do something
If men in stone age had this attitude humanity wouldn't exist
because they beat and raped women as they should
Women also don’t approach men they’re attracted to, which means approaching women means you’re potentially approaching someone who finds you attractive
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Then you should listen to what she’s saying, she knows what women want
women do not tell men the truth about these things you precious child
she’s protecting her sexes ego investments aka the biological imperative aka hypergamy
I think I’ll believe the woman and the multiple examples I’ve seen that prove her point over the incel, thanks for the input though
that’s your inexperienced choice to make and your lesson to learn
>incel giving advice on dating and dating experience
thanks for the (You) but you can go now
an incel would have better advice for incels than a rejected women who talks in bad faith due to her trauma of being undesirable by your dad
I’m not an incel and what she said is dead on. Shoo shoo incel
Attraction for women goes deeper than looks. Looks are only a small part of it. It’s easy to make a woman attracted to you from your personality, hobbies, goals etc.
>have been called attractive by women,
>never... had any woman show interest in me
?
yes he’s confused as well because women lie to men about this shit
don’t listen to them
if a woman calls you ugly it means she’s mad she can’t frick you or that you won’t frick her
if a woman calls you hot it means she wants to make the guy she actually likes jealous
Just because a woman says you're cute or handsome doesn't mean she's into you
I literally just talked to a girl less than 5 hours ago, and she was completely silent for most of it, I had to keep asking her questions and even then I was doing most of the talking.
it was a sarcastic reply
that “advice” is on par with bootstraps and a firm handshake at this cultural stage
She wasn't interested. Take any possible lessons learned and move on to the next one. That's basically the gist of how it works.
chud logic
he was acting wrong
she was interested but you were too insecure
have more confidence
well it didn't help that all I could think to talk about was torrenting, Cinemaphile, jazz, and that one episode of Black Mirror: USS Callister
that’s your fault for not having interests that she finds attractive
forget about all of that and man up
frick you, I'll never change myself to please the whims of a woman
then i’ll tell my sisters you have a small dick and we’ll ride hoeflation into the exploding sun
You don’t have to change your interests but you need to make yourself more interesting to make her interested in your interests.
this is the same thing
no he doesn’t need to change anything
how about women become interesting in anything useful in life for a change
It’s not the same Mr. ESL
>was torrenting, Cinemaphile, jazz, and that one episode of Black Mirror: USS Callister
lol i would've loved to see this. anon cmon man, you need to be more aware of the situation. you should know damn well she doesn't want to talk about that shit.
she seemed spergy enough, what do people talk about normally?
>what do people talk about normally?
idk, but you should've instead tried figuring out what she's into. ask her questions. make it all about herself. then when you know things about her, you can try to find some sort of common ground to break into a proper discussion.
I ran out of questions, all she was responding with was "no", "i don't know", or something along those lines
>all she was responding with was "no", "i don't know", or something along those lines
I've had little experience with relationships, but even I know that's a red flag. but hey, at least you're trying. and if you keep it up, you'll iron out the rough spots and you'll eventually figure it out and it'll be 2nd nature to you to speak to women and have a proper conversation with them.
Recap your torrent discussion.
I just said that with torrenting you don't have to depend on any company and abide by their rules to share media.
I hope you didn't segue that into there are no rules on Cinemaphile or jazz improvisation and you live your life in the freeest sense possible.
that's exactly what I did, how the frick did you know?
it was a different time
now she would get mad that he thinks he “deserves” her or some other anti natalist propaganda
mutual attraction probably makes it a lot easier, yeah
it was a different time
the terms love bombing and incel didn’t exist so mutual attraction was allowed to take place
>love bombing
They've literally turned falling in love into a pathology?
The “love bombing” thing is definitely something a sociopath would do to induce a “magical romance” sensation, unfortunately it’s indistinguishable from normal doting or gift giving from a New Romantic interest.
Basically it’s when some psycho is desperate to have you so they find excuses to lavish you with crap that slowly makes you dependent on their lifestyle, attention, or finances, or can otherwise quietly guilt you into continuing a relationship after you’ve discovered they’re unhinged.
Ex.- my psychotic control freak baby mama invited me on a vacation to Mexico with her, free of charge, under the premise that she planned the whole thing and bought tickets but her friend backed out and nobody else could make it. I agreed, like any idiot, and only 3 years later did she let slip that her friend backed out long before she booked anything and she could have canceled or rescheduled without losing a dime.
2 months later I first witnessed her narcissistic rage tantrums when I backseat drove in some traffic and she completely spazzed out and attacked the dashboard while screaming like a 4 year old. She had the usual excuses and I gave her the benefit of the doubt, since she claimed she was stressed over family drama (which I now know is a perpetual occurrence), and less than a week later she reveals that she booked us a weeklong vacation to the east coast, in front of my entire family, all on her bill. Again, if I wasn’t an idiot I would have just said “sorry but no.” But by this point she’s already started undermining my judgement and now 5 years later I have 2 kids and several suicide attempts under my belt.
It’s real. All that woke shit is real. It’s just that before we had labels for it we called it “having an angle” and relegated it to the other person being a c**t.
if a man says a woman is love bombing he’s an incel
the term was invented and is used by women to get away with whatever they want
stop validating toxic concepts that literally only exist to serve anti natalist functions
Sounds like that relationship will only end with either one or both of you dead.
Good luck, anon.
That’s not love bombing that’s you being a total pussy whipped homosexual
you’re responding to a woman
I mean, didn't she basically admit she asked you to come along on a vacation with her because she wanted to get closer to you? Sure, at the time maybe she was embarrassed to say so, but she still acted on it because she liked you enough to want to spend time in Mexico together. Personally, I don't see any problem with that if you're trying to court someone. If the person REALLY doesn't like you (AKA, if you really didn't like her), they will just say no anyway.
Also, people have family drama. Plenty of stable people have family drama. It's stressful. That being said, if her outburst were too much for you back then, why did you have two kids with her in the first place? At least this woman was taking you places and spending money on you - something that's increasingly rare in today's society. But if you knew back then that she was too crazy for you, you shouldn't have knocked her up twice. That's on you. You made your bed, now you have to be a family man for those kids.
Never happened the post
I refuse to belive any man can get sick of getting too much sex and money.
>, unfortunately it’s indistinguishable from normal doting
This right here is where they can pick and choose and i'm sure majority of the time their criteria to judge is nothing more than physical appearance.
>I have 2 kids
Dude, you fricked? Nice.
damn after reading the entire post I feel for you man. I swear I was waaaaay too close to having fallen into an almost exact same situation. Thank God I didn't.
>I first witnessed her narcissistic rage tantrums when I backseat drove in some traffic
that's not a "narcissistic rage tantrum", that's someone panicking at a real danger of you being a moron and trying to drive from the back seat instead of the front seat
anon, I think you might be moronic
that sounds like borderline personality disorder. I'm with someone who has it. it really can be hell on earth. the hatred these people have inside them, that they can turn onto you in an instant is almost unbelievable. Im stuck too, financially dependent with nowhere to go and no one to ask for help. at least there's no kids.
>Im stuck too, financially dependent with nowhere to go and no one to ask for help.
frick man, I feel for you.
>paid for your vacations
Holy frick what a pain bro.
>anon backseat driving
I’d also get mad at you for telling me how to drive. Especially if I am trying to focus on the fricking road.
it's all just a pick and choose variety of copes women use to take the blame off themselves for breakups because they're always looking for an excuse to. they break up with you in their head like months before they actually do because they're building up some sort of excuse in their head that they're going to tell everyone after they break up with you instead of just owning up to the fact that they just wanted to break up.
>it's not my fault we broke up I had to he was [insert cope here]ing me
how are you this immature and expect women to want to frick you?
who are you quoting
nobody? my post did not contain any quotations or greentexts
>dude you're immature because you notice what women do
Women are creepy sex predators that have to build up lies in their heads in order to cope.
the immature part is disregarding any reason why women would want to break up and just assuming it's a made up excuse. "love bombing" or whatever you want to call it is 100% a valid reason to not want to be around a person. I'm suspecting you have some kind of insecurity/self esteem problem that makes you think every woman is constantly thinking of ways to break up with her boyfriend and that any relationship complaint levied must be some bullshit excuse.
>disregarding any reason why women would want to break up
Never did this. If they want to break up for a reason they can say it or just leave without having to make up some moronic pop psychology cope their head for months.
>I'm suspecting you have some kind of insecurity/self esteem problem that makes you think every woman is constantly thinking of ways to break up
Women are constantly trying to prod you for an excuse to break up. They'll do shit like tell a guy to open up about their emotions and then as soon as they do, it they tell themselves it's a "red flag" or some shit. They're fricking gross sex predators that want you for a frick and nothing else.
No it is distinguishable, love bombing is when you obviously don't deserve the level of affection based on how little you have contributed. Like someone texting obsessively after only knowing you for a few days.
Pathetic. Now that all of that equity and inclusion has caught up with us we have desperate women raining gifts down upon men and the men playing victim. Society is doomed.
thanks feminism!
you're dumb if you think relationships are all about what the other can materially provide for you. that's usually the one thing that keeps people in an abusive relationship, the fact that they have become too dependent on the s.o to leave.
Men have always married with money in mind, despite their assertions otherwise. It was much more openly advertised in the past is all, with dowries sweetening the pot. With the rise of the middle class of course there were some men who would marry for money still but most boomers seemed to marry out of love. They could earn their income, so they could afford to marry for love. Now that incomes have decreased severely for men and increasing for women and our economy is up shit creek in general it’s just a bizarre thing to watch a man of little means hook up with a sugar momma, gobble down any treats she tossed puppy, then cry like a woman about how this is somehow some deeply abusive relationship, even giving it a violent-sounding name, “lovebombing.” Society is doomed.
I agree with that.
I have seen this term pop up in the last two weeks at least a dozen times. Prior to that I have never heard of it in my life. Is it literally just being "abusive" by doing nice things for someone because you're courting them?
It a thing narcissists do. It’s real and not a new buzzword. It’s not simple affection. Google for more info.
it’s a made up bullshit word by femcels
you should google flat earth for more info
Love bombing is more akin to obsessive and possessive behavior in the name of love, which is not a healthy form of love long term. It's ok at certain times when passions are high and mutual, but eventually the wears off for at least one party, and the other one just wants to chill.
Think BPD prostitutes sending you 20 texts an hour saying how much they love you and wondering where they are.
so it’s just taking lack of experience and self awareness and turning it into an easily abusable term that helps to only lower the birth rate and societal trust
the fact that it's abusable doesn't make it any less valid. and i have no idea why a Cinemaphilener at heart should give that much of a shit about.. lower birth rates, lol..
birth rates coincide with love
it’s not valid and you haven’t proven that it is
why do you keep talking as if things have been established
they haven’t
you don’t set the terms
Look, all this shit isn't abuse. Some guys and girls would LOVE their partners to text them 20 times a day saying how much they love them. Some people would not. If you don't like it, speak up about it to your partner and let them know how you feel. You know, communicate. If they can't handle that, then maybe you two aren't meant to be. Or maybe they'll listen and respect your wishes. Either way, don't be passive aggressive about the whole thing and never speak up and just b***h all day about how your partner showing you affection "drives you nuts".
>Is it literally just being "abusive" by doing nice things for someone because you're courting them?
Yes, but with the crucial detail that the average zoomer romance no longer starts with a series of nice gestures. The zoomers all either date as equals and go dutch on everything or settle for online dating where they're expected to buy dinner and pay for the activities and then wait to be contacted again. Anyone doing old-school "hey, here's some flowers, I saw them and thought of you" shit is going to come off as belittling to the first half and pushy or stalkerish to the second half, so they came up with a term so old people understand it is gross now.
But buying flowers for a random girl you've never been on a date with is weird and cringe - it has been for decades. I get that. I just mean buying things for your partner like when you're out on the first date or something. I've always thought buying anything for anyone you're not on a date with is crazy and desperate - but I don't know if that's considered "love bombing". I always just called it pathetic.
Love bombing is literally if someone just showers you with gifts even when you dont reciprocate and are obviously not interested. Its not that hard to understand and everyone is just complicating it
This I understand. But I've seen it used in the past few days in regards to people already in a relationship, which is what had me confused about the whole thing. I didn't understand how you could "love bomb" someone you're in a relationship with already. At that point (ideally), we've both decided you're going to try and make this thing work, so if the partner doesn't like what you're doing (or visa versa), it's their job at that point to speak up and let you know the best they can. I mean that's what any normal person would do with someone they want to be with, at least. But if people are out there wasting their time in relationship they don't really want to be in in the first place, then I wouldn't claim to have the first understanding of how their mind works.
I remember when I was at college this hot redhead in her 20s, very fit, nice face and everything had a kid with another dude but it didn’t work out. She had a boyfriend at the time and they just started dating.
>one day we look out into the parking lot, this 5’5 jacked motherfricker was standing in the back of his raised pickup with flowers in his hands. Just waiting.
>redhead waits at door and we ask if that is her bf, she said yes and didn’t want to go out she was so embarrassed.
>tried sympathizing with her since I was having second hand embarrassment for her.
>ended up fricking her last week of school, no contact after.
Flowers or showy shit in public is embarrassing. Maybe not so much in private.
i only ever heard it in relation to cult recruiting, like when you first join a cult, start going to meetings everyone showers you with love and acceptance to lower your defenses. i have never heard it used in the context of individual personal relationships, always group/cult stuff.
What's love bombing? Never heard of it.
Jesse is a manlet so realistically he would be a virgin until death
it was before 2016, guys under 6 feet could still have sex back then
>t. 2016 tourist
me when i’m unable to prove the post i’m responding to as wrong
I hated both of them and I wish they had both OD'd at the same time. Fricking druggies.
Also Jesse's Jane was ugly as frick.
How do you guys think people get together irl?
They don't.
https://theconversation.com/us-birth-rates-are-at-record-lows-even-though-the-number-of-kids-most-americans-say-they-want-has-held-steady-197270#:~:text=In%202007%2C%20average%20birth%20rates,t%20interested%20in%20having%20children%3F
It's not if you're attractive, I've picked many girls from going outside to various events.
What kind of events? How did you find out about them and who did you go with?
Typically: language exchanges, went there alone or with friends, music events (not the so big ones), just go on Meetup and you'll find plenty of events where you can socialize, like hiking, cooking, dancing... anything you may find fun can be an occasion, I met my gymbro going to a language exchange, and now we're wingmen.
well this episode was in like 2009 when people could literally go outside and approach strangers and end up getting married and having kids
Work, college/uni, and through mutual friends they meet at those places. "Just go out and meet women" is meaningless.
I hate that dumb young people think work is not an option to meet your possible s.o. when a lot of couples used to first meet at work.
Still I have dated a couple of girls from work and even when there was no chemistry I still don't act like sperg around them and talk to them normally.
it's completely possible: for women, for Chad, or for the "lucky" chump that a used goods woman who has "had her fun" is ready to choose as betabuxx provider.
for the average man it is an incredibly risky strategy. you are literally putting your career on the line to make a romantic approach because of modern "sexual harrassment" culture. any women can decide at any moment she "felt uncomfortable" with something you did/said, and that's IT. your career is OVER, your reputation/life is RUINED, if she doesn't choose you for whatever reason.
asking chicks out at work is playing Russian Roulette with your career and reputation.
Agreed on corporate SJW culture, but I've been working and studying in western Europe for 11 years and I've never witnessed weird shit like this, either myself or with other men. In fact I see co-workers dating all the time.
It's America. America somehow managed to take the worst prudish aspects of the right and mix them with the worst aspects of liberal feminism to create a literall hell on earth for men. Add that to the fact that America is the land of obesity making less than 25% of women even datable to begin with...
it’s only hell on earth for men if you’re a chud incel
do as i say and maybe you’ll get a pity scrap of my luxurious vegana
id rather just jack of to 2d and save up for a trip to thailand
well those women aren’t attracted to you
and neither am i!!!!!
only if you do as i instruct will a woman frick you (not me tho!!!)
this shit only happens to men who are completely unable to read intentions of a woman and go forward with unwanted advances.
literally no woman will report you for chat at work and shooting your shot when she sent you some signals of interest. lawsuits only happen to guys that have been told No six times and still ask to eat out her ass
after the fact rationalizing from a feminist mind
they will do it if they want you fired, first they have to tell themselves the story enough times that they start to believe it is true
how are you supposed to know if an advance is wanted or not before you make it? see what I mean? if the advance was wanted, congratulations. but if it turns out it was unwanted, then you shot your shot, only cost you your career.
you learn by experience. just as with anything else.
i can’t afford to lose my job idiot and i’m certainly not going to jail
why do women keep posting itt
why do you think the only experience you can learn from is at your job? use your brain anon, I can't hold your hand to figure every little detail out.
can somebody who isn’t a worthless human being please make a post instead
You can only lie to yourself for so long anon. Eventually you have to come to terms with the fact that realistically, you just don't want it enough to put forth the effort to try and get it.
go back to gaslighting school and get your parents money back it was wasted
because the post that started this chain of replies was talking about work you imbecile
right here:
okay but realistically speaking that isn't the only option for anon to speak to women.
problem is there's no way to get that experience without unacceptable levels of risk.
which is the real crux of the discussion
we cannot live in a society with this culture
it’s deliberately hellish and is coming to a very violent end soon
of course there is. skip a few towns and go to a bar. don't worry about anything other than gaining experience. you keep looking for any little excuse to not do it. honestly it really boils down to you and how much you are willing to put forth the effort to gain experience.
and most things in life that are worth it require some type of risk. are you going to forever not take any risks in life because there's the potential to fail? because there's just as much of a chance for success. but nothing I say will make a difference unless you yourself decide you want to take that risk.
women aren’t worth anything anymore is the thing
and you are completely free to see it that way. but be honest with yourself and really think about what you have said, because you should know statistically speaking, there are still women of worth out there. You just have to put forth the effort to finding one.
You're either extremely socially sheltered and have no experience with normie society or a demoralization shill. Most people irl don't care about SJW shit like this and most women aren't predatory demons. That is not to say you should be stupid and not take some precautions, cause it can happen, but stop poisoning young white men's minds with this bullshit.
prove anything you just said isn’t bullshit
You (or the guy you're agreeing with) made claims too dumbass, you first.
ok so you can’t
next
neither can you black pilled incel moron
call me whatever name helps you sleep at night
>you make claims
>I make some claims
>you ask me for proof to back up my "bullshit"
>I ask you to go first since you made the first claim
Which part of this do you disagree with?
you speak for yourself and no one else
ok moron, I accept your concession
nta but how can you ask him to back up his arguments with evidence if you're not willing to do the same?
>him
yeah cause sperging out like a b***h when someone asks you to hold yourself to the same standard you hold others to is peak masculinity
women don’t define masculinity
>most women aren't predatory demons
Munchausen by proxy is basically only present in women
maybe most aren't, but it only takes one. just like only one bullet in the chamber is loaded in russian roulette, so 5 times out of 6, nothing bad happens when you play.
You live in a bubble. The shit you’re talking about is rare, yet you use it as an excuse to not have to try.
that’s your perception
if you’re talking in good faith that is
i don’t think you are
>that’s your perception
But your perception is the truth/reality?
How do you know this? Do you actually do shit for yourself and meet girls or did you try an activity once and got mad no girl was looking at you?
I know my perception is correct, because I actually have fricking hobbies that require me to interact with women in order to get what I need/find people to do the hobby with.
You know how many women are into finding guys via hobbies? Lots, holy frick you morons legit have left me a smorgasbord these past 5 years in terms of shy hot women.
you are a woman and i am going to simply and plainly tell you how i can immediately tell every time you post
the function of all of your advice exists to serve hypergamy
nothing you have said benefits any man in anyway anywhere
Only a woman would counter an argument by calling someone else a woman.
You’re just a crab in the bucket spoilt lil homosexual. Can’t even answer my fricking question because you have not tried anything, you offer to experience, thus you shouldn’t be giving advice.
me when i’m a defeated woman
>heh only a woman would call me a woman and that's why you're a man
nta but wtf is this moron logic
woman logic
the same as the logic employed in literally any post defending women in any way in this thread
the fact that there's a non zero chance of it happening. the fact that i run an honest self assessment of my own SMV and realize that that drastically increases the chance of it happening.
basically if your SMV is low enough that you need to ask on Cinemaphile how to meet women, you are not the kind of guy who is likely to score pussy at work.
are you living under a rock? no guy is gettting laid period nowadays
Cinemaphile or otherwise
stop kowtowing to feminist tenets and judgement
it’s invalid and faulty
>”uhmmm I ran the numbers and they agree with my anxiety! So honestly trying isn’t worth my time”
Your “honest” assessment is based on other people’s opinion. Not your fricking own, stop comparing yourself to others you stupid fricking moron. Just enjoy doing shit and stop wallowing in your own pitty.
99% of the time I don’t have a girl actively flirt with me. I enjoy the hobby and if the opportunity presents itself I take it.
Try not being such a whiny miserable homosexual, and I assure that you will at the very least stop being such a sad sack of shit that women can smell from across the office.
men are raised in a feminist society this is the end result
telling men to care about the opinions of women (worthless) has been a massive disaster for western and all civilization
>caring about a women’s opinion is feminism
Kek moron, listening and showing interest in others is how you grow relationships/ create bonds.
not everybody is worth listening to
especially not modern women
especially not one so fricked in the head it has to post here
Kek, you're a genetic dead end. Your blood is the product of thousands of years of ancestors. And you'll kill that bloodline because you're too scared of girls.
don't care, only way i'm reproducing is if i get to cuck someone and have that sucker's resources unkowingly go toward my offspring and/or impregnate some chick in a country that has never heard of child support who can never track me down. my resources go towards providing ME pleasure.
the ultimate female cope response
but it doesn’t work because there are other women who will frick him anyway
so nobody cares to be rejected by a reject like you
yeah all this red pill self-improvement shit is a cope (and anyone who tells you to go to bars and clubs alone is a LARPing socially inexperienced autist who has no idea how normies work). 99% of couples I know met by just living their lives, going to college, work etc., and happening to meet their SO there or like you said through people they met there. Which is why you often see ugly guys with gfs or decent-looking incels. Just look at videos of anime or gaming conventions, there's ugly nerdy-looking guys with gfs everywhere. That's the real black pill, it's mostly based on chance and you just happening to stumble on situations where you can meet your gf as you live your life.
That said, ofc go to the gym, take care of your appearance, work on your social skills etc., but mostly try to put yourself in social environments with a lot of people where you can make friends. Red pill/PUA advice mostly assumes that you already have some kind of social group or are part of a social environment.
99% of couples are coping and not in love or attracted to each other
>99% of couples I know met by just living their lives
I'm a zoomer and almost every zoomer/millennial I know met their SO on an app
People don't date the old fashioned way anymore
Yeah, and you need to have photos on dating apps of you being out with friends, doing fun stuff, etc. Which require a social and professional life.
i dont
>try to put yourself in social environments with a lot of people where you can make friends
How? I can't help if my job doesn't have any women or extroverted guys who like to go out
I just pick up hobbies like rock climbing and improv
I wouldn't know.
What
said but after that, its dating apps, but good look with that
How did shit change so rapidly in just a few years
Orchestrated media organizations decided it was time.
liberals ruined society on purpose
they made being normal illegal because they are ugly stupid losers
I think dating was a lot easier before social media and dating apps
Dating now:
>get ignored if you don't have at least 100 instagram followers
>don't have social media? women will think you're a serial killer
>get ridiculed if you don't have an iPhone
>I really want to be with a woman that judges people based on their internet popularity, internet presence and material possessions
Maybe you should think about what kind of individual you yourself are.
you just described women
Then maybe you just don't like women?
nobody does
not even themselves
Then what are you complaining about?
women
>I'm chasing what I dislike
Epic, simply epic.
i didn’t ask to be straight you stupid hag
Wew, careful now. Wouldn't want to sound like the average wienersucking homosexual :^)
like you?
> I think dating was a lot easier before social media and dating apps
I’m 29 and I remember dating for most of the 2010’s was still very easy and social media and dating apps were still extremely popular.
Something in the past few years has changed night and day and I think it’s coming of age into their 20s bringing their fricked up mental illnesses with them and couple that with the fact that they such a huge voice through tiktok
what makes you think your personal experience reflects that of the majority of men
It’s not hard to notice cultural shifts man
that’s what i’m saying to you moron
I used this picture as a profile picture together with this girl I banged when I was 15.
How old are you?
Was it MySpace? kino
Yeah it's ez to get a junkie gf. Just go to a degenerate party and find one.
But why the frick would you want that.
No it's not. Why would a junkie girl be with you when she can settle for a blue/white collar chad or even a doctor/lawyer? Average Cinemaphile neet doesn't stand a chance
Oh shut the frick up, you're out of your mind if you think those guys put up with these people. This isn't mild weed/alcohol abuse, opiate junkies are INSANE.
Only thing that matters is if you can get her drugs.
Somehow I don't buy it
>But why the frick would you want that.
tbh if she's women, that's enough for me
Everytime I've talked to a girl I got told of their bf status
sucks but hey at least they're telling you right away they're not interested instead of stringing you along and fricking with your head/taking advantage of you.
>her bf status: hasn't happened yet
Have you ever fixed your bike? Hell, car? Ever written anything and sat infront of an empty page for hours? All feelings that have you by the balls so you think to yourself "this shit is impossible". Once you actually start and repair that ungodly mechanical bullshit and drive your bike or car or have managed to write 50 pages of at least something coherent someone else approves of you'll realize the most difficult thing is to get started.
It's the same shite, except women talk back so naturally the fear is greater. No matter how dumb that dude really is but he#s right, JUST FRICKING DO IT. You'll laugh at how easy it was afterwards.
I'll take the first step only if I have somebody's there to hold my hand.
>tfw bad teeth ruined any chance I have of getting a girl
teeth can be fixed if you have the money. focus on yourself. even with good teeth, without experience talking to women or bettering yourself, you wont really get anywhere.
You guys have to reach the point where you stop caring that you don't have a relationship with a women because you already have your shit together and the idea of being in one is not your main priority anymore. It's when you're so hyperfocused on it that you're actually just pushing it away. Women can sense desperation.
“having your shit together” is a female concept that hinges upon fulfilling arbitrary societal roles that don’t serve men in any way
frick what women think. what is your idea of having your life together? that's all that matters. the whole point is being confident and comfortable with who you are and what you do in life.
but all I want in life is the world, and everything in it, like Tony Montana said.
you know I never actually sat down and watched that movie start to finish. I've only seen probably like 15 minutes worth of random bits and pieces.
>if you have the money
yea, "if". But you know what? You don't need a perfect set of teeth. I've seen some hideous mother frickers pulling women. It's all about confidence and being comfortable with yourself.
yes we get it you have an optimistic personality
would it kill you to learn some context
I'm a volcel shut-in. Just giving some practical advice of things I'vel earned in life.
I preemptively reject every woman, in hope that this rejection will cause suffering to a few of them. If it doesn't, that's fine, I don't become aware of that anyway.
it does
Yeah, I know of at least two b***hes I outright reject and they got mad pissed. One of them is still lurking around me online and she's depressed and b***hy. It brings be joy to know that at least these two felt like shit for a while and heard a rejection for maybe the first time on their lives.
Yes, women love flat screen tvs.
also when men have money.
you guys are putting the pussy on a pedestal
men need to treat all women as if they are all the elderly
lol, it wasn't easy, look how nervous he's at first, the woman barely acknowledge him too (which is relatable)
although in real life, you would have to take a few days of conversation before asking her to see your tv lol
Hey! Mike Patton
I'm 25 years old and a virgin.
okay? thats your fault
nobody asked for a woman’s opinion (worthless)
It is his fault tho. He could have found an escort or he can wait for his paneer bride to be flown over
he wouldn’t be a virgin if he was born ten years earlier
that’s the actual discussion taking place
that's practically the norm for zoomer guys now. i think it's not exaggeration to say zoomer women are the worst generation of women in all human history anywhere on the planet
it really isn't
most zoomer guys go to parties, get laid, etc
just because you're an autistic Cinemaphile user doesn't mean most men are
statistically you are completely wrong and full of shit
why are you acting like a teacher when you actually are wrong about what you’re attempting to talk about?
no you see it’s your fault they are actually just being little perfect women and you just need to man up ok?
Jesse is charming, outgoing, funny and well liked / respected by people (I.e the biker saying what’s up to him). It’s no wonder he was able to bag her
>Waiting for signal
>While they wait on eachothers signal
BRAVO VINCE
imagine being such a fricking failure of a man that you're too afraid to approach a woman lol
imagine being such a fricking failure of a woman that you're too afraid to approach a man lol
>call women bawds when they are open and forward with men
>AAAHHH WHY WON'T WOMEN APPROACH ME IN PUBLIC
who are you quoting
hoooly shit I cannot imagine the pathetic limp wristed b***h that posted this. yeah you might as well just troon out already since you're this afraid to take the masculine role in dating.
hit a nerv
post your wrist
post your fupa and litterbox
I can prove I'm not a woman because you're talking to me right now without having a panic attack lol
literally what a woman who would be relegated to Cinemaphile would say
you’re here because you’re a reject
damn, you didn't have to do him like that lol
imagine being a woman so ugly you have to post on Cinemaphile to try to get men to approach you
This is what I mean. Approach her where? How? You think that's how the average guy meets his gf? By just "putting himself out there"?
you’re talking to a woman
women approach the men they are actually attracted to
notice how she doesn’t deny this she just tries to pin the fault on you in some way
women cannot accept responsibility or take any criticism whatsoever
they’d rather come on here and lie to others to make themselves feel better
early 30s guy here. I've spelt with about 40 women. a grand total of 3 have approached me and made the first move. you're gonna wait a long time if you think its a woman's job to show interest first
It’s ridiculous. His theory would mean that every single couple resulted from the woman approaching the man since according to him women approach every single man they’re attracted to
who are you quoting
Read the thread or keep going to your weekly ESL lessons
ditto
late 40s guy here
i’ve never approached and have multiple kids with different women across the globe
it’s nobody’s job to do anything you pathetic beta
>You think that's how the average guy meets his gf?
Through initiating and engaging in social situations? Yes. Did you think I was talking about cold approach or something?
Yeah I did. OK then I agree.
>you think this is how the average guy meets his gf.
Most of the time if it isn’t fricking tinder, yes.
>just approach women bro
saved
also notice how nobody will reply to this
living your life around statistics is the equivalent of living your life around snopes approval of what is and isn't true. Get a clue.
so you have nothing but assumptions and projection
next
and you have nothing but numbers and lines, trusting that whoever recorded those numbers and lines didn't skew information to push a certain narrative lol.
numbers and lines are real
your feelings aren’t
i’ll stick with what’s real and proven
>numbers and lines are real
yea, but people can twist them to push a certain narrative. same with any sort of information you can find on the internet.
prove they aren’t valid
>most relationships are from work or school or through friends
That's the gist of it, you don't need 100 post-long Cinemaphile threads dissecting dating and making friends. Accept this reality and adjust your life and tactics accordingly.
Cinemaphile is made of autists and social rejects who never leave the house and are pathologically incapable of normal interactions. The game was rigged from the start. THAT is the gist of it.
sounds like convenient cope for the sake of your feelings
But if I approach a girl she will say "ewww go away" and then tell all of her friends that the creepy anon approached her and they all laugh and tell their bfs who then come beat me up.
but this has actually happened to me several times before, at least 1 girl in the group will get the "ick" and the others will join in ostracizing me because they are all besties, the same happens just making friends as well, 1 stuck up normy or relative doesn't like me and I stop getting invited to things, I keep telling myself it is all in my head and I am paranoid but it keeps happening
>WAHHHHHH BIG GROUP OF WOMEN HATE ME AHHHHHHH IM GOING INSANE
grow up
if this is happening with multiple groups and even in platonic friend groups then I'm sorry to say the problem is probably you. you're probably acting like a homosexual.
or maybe he’s just surrounded by shitty people?
why do women always victim blame
it’s like they secretly know they are always wrong inside
you're doing the victim blaming you just don't see it
prove it
for other anons, you don't have to internalize the opinions of other people, but it's still useful information. Just dismissing it as "women lol" is not a good strategy if you are looking for a partner
what is this post supposed to prove
nothing, I gave up trying to communicate with (You) and directed it towards the other anons ITT
>it's everyone else who is an butthole, surely it can't be me! it can't possibly be my fault that everyone hates me!
that's sound logic to you?
who are you quoting
your schizophrenic thoughts
ironic post because you just admitted to projection which literally makes you the schizophrenic in this context
dont talk about anime, israelites, politics or money in public and you will get invited to things
so be fake and cuck to a fake world?
why not just run people over and pour acid into their engines when they are at work?
Sorry this is happening to you. People can be buttholes, and they tend to flock to the group instead of try and reach out and fear of being ostracized themselves. All I can say is you're going to have to develop a thick skin because the people around you are buttholes.
dunno about the women part but yeah 3 times in my life I've been ostracized by a friend group because one guy didn't like me, and I wasn't close enough with the others for them to stick up for me or choose me. Just focus on self-improvement and professional success and men will respect you. And get rid of scarcity mentality (i.e. it's very hard for me to make friends so I will hold on to shitty friendships cause they're all I have), try to become comfortable with cutting out people who don't respect you.
Based and stoicismPilled
most likely
but women are moronic losers and their opinions come from a woman’s brain aka worthless
just rape them
that's how you learn what works and what doesn't. it's a trial and error thing.
beta cope
there is nothing to change
if a prostitute isn’t attracted to you you find one who is you don’t cuck to somebody that isn’t attracted to you
attraction isn’t negotiable
This literally doesn't happen. It's just your fear of rejection talking.
it does if you’re a man
a woman wouldn’t understand
I can tell you're another one of those sheltered loser incels. you've faced no real adversity in your life so you have a breakdown at the thought of a girl rejecting you so you don't even try. go build some character and then maybe you can get a crumb of pussy.
ok i hope the fictional character you just imagined takes your fake advice and becomes a god
anyway back to the discussion
this entire post comes out of validating the feminist narrative so no
It's a troll. He's going to tell you
>who are you quoting
or call you a woman, regardless of what you say unless you are 100% in agreement with what he's saying.
me when i have to have a girl moment to calm down
you're trying to hard now.
i’m about to start trying
watch, here i go really hard
>approach a woman
>spill spaghetti and have your rejection recorded and go viral on tiktok
>your life is ruined
A genuine concern every man faces these days. The dating scene is forever fricked.
Can you link us such video?
you do realize most if not all shit you see on tiktok is scripted, right?
>spill spaghetti on self
>get posted on TikTok
>have guys respect you for shooting your shot.
The only people who will judge you are insecure homosexuals who don’t have the balls to step outside their homes anon
Why do gen xers love tv so much?
>Not realizing she knew he was a drug dealer almost from the get go
He had the allure of being a bad boy, well he pretty much is, and she was a former addict so it was also her inner desire to start using again that attracted her to him
Society is shit. Most girls have been brainwashed to hate men due to "mansplaining", "toxic masculinity" and all that, they have spent their formative years locked into mass media on their phones and if you don't LARP as some character from a TV show you're fricked, you won't entertain them, you can't fit into the mold they have been deeply brainwashed with from infancy. Even if you learn to act like a wannabe gangsta or some other acceptable subculture you will be a beginner, it is like trying to compete with piano grandmasters.
People will hate you, literally hate you, if you can't fit in, they will become malicious and try to hurt you every way they can get away with and people like us are fair game. First it is verbally and lying, they nit pick every little thing you do, you make a common human error and they dig into that, they frick up and it's not a big deal, or they somehow blame it on you, then they might work their way up to riskier things like stealing from you, because they know the other normies won't care. If you get upset or angry then YOU are the butthole, it proves you are an angry bitter man and this justified what they did to you.
One time I caught a coworker rummaging through my bag, there was camera footage and everything, but basically the whole floor tried to get me to hush it up and not call the police. Because I'm not a cuck I did, but the police basically did nothing because the contents of the bag was too low value and they didn't believe he was trying to steal it all and a week later of course I was made redundant. I don't know if I can get a lawyer and try to connect the redundancy to that event, I don't have money to hire Saul Goodman or whatever.
This wouldn't happen in wholesome "high trust" communities in the 1950s. Frick everyone telling me society hasn't gotten worse. I was not radicalized by the far-right over the internet, I was radicalized by the far-left in real life and this is my haven, if any "sociologist" is wondering.
i have empathy for you
there is a woman out there for you though
if i found mine she exists for other chudcels too
Why was a coworker searching your bag?
he said rummaging and you changed it to searching
>that pic
literally happened to me
I feel for you. I grew up in a different time but I still saw the whole if you don't fit in they'll frick with you as far as they can get away with. I went through it myself actually. It's good that you didn't let them control you and did what you know you should've done. Society has definitely gotten worse and yea it is shit.
stop living with Black folk
>it's a Cinemaphile gives dating advice thread
keep in mind that the "just go outside" nonsense is leftover boomer mentality from when they still lived in a relatively high trust society that they ultimately destroyed and have deluded themselves into believing nothing has changed.
yeah and it was also a society with more "mechanisms" in place to allow people to build social circles and meet their SOs. Churches, youth centers, dance clubs etc.
World has never been more safe
thats a lie.
thats a truth.
And people say "go outside" - go outside and do what, exactly?
just talk to women bro, just meet people you know
What if you don't have any friends?
Technically, I do have friends, but I'm not going to meet any women through them
im a good looking and intelligent man who wants cool friends but my parents abandoned me as a child and i never went to school so i can’t get a good job so i’m surrounded by low iq ugly dysgenic morons all the time
all the cool smart hot people are already all together being cool and smart and hot
i don’t know what to do
same, I'm a mostly normal guy but I have no idea how "cool guys", the kind you see on VIP tables at clubs, festivals, chatting with women at bars, on videos from Ibiza, Mykonos etc. meet. They're probably mainly childhood friends (who were already cool in school) who didn't move out of their hometown and so were able to stick together and maintain their friendship after graduation.
Yeah that's another black pill. Making deep friendships with men, finding your "bro group" and all that becomes mostly impossible after ages 22-23. And even if you manage to, by the point enough time has passed for you to be considered old friends/best friends you won't be young enough to do fun stuff like that anymore. But at least you know it's not your fault. I've settled for a few drinks with my co-workers once or twice a week and occasionally seeing the 2 only friends I've had for more than 10 years.
die in 117 degree heat
I've had sex and multiple gfs in the past and can confirm this is not how it works
i never had a gf (or any female contact) and I'm 33
i feel so alone it physically hurts
Stop coping have sex it’s that easy incels
it’s society and women who are coping
everything incels say is true and that’s why they are incels
it’s literally the truth
>still coping
>still in this thread and not out having sex
I’ll say it again: stop coping and have sex. It’s literally that easy incel
my girlfriend is already pregnant so even if i fricked her it wouldn’t do anything
i think you just hate what i say because it takes something away from you
>still coping (and now lying)
>still here and not out having sex
Shoo shoo incel
i’m going to post more
i would be out having sex but your kind passed laws changing it from a speeding ticket misdemeanor to a full on register on the list felony for literally just writing a review on eccie.
you must be some next level ick if you’re getting reported by women for talking to them lmao
so you’re saying he’s ugly and women call the cops in ugly men
i agree they do
Ick doesn’t mean ugly incel
it doesn’t mean anything actually
like your posts
It does, I wouldn’t expect an incel to understand anything about women though
if you had anything to say you’d be able to explain it
but it’s all about your feelings (worthless)
>you have to be a Chad to get a half decent GF!
checkmate incels
>twenty year olds le cant do drugs and have fully functioning lives!
>killed by Waltuh
>he dindu nuffin!
>incel blackpill chad hypergamy!!
Listen losers, go to your local walmart.
You will see fat, short, poorly dressed ugly men with an entire family of kids. If they can do it, so can you
somebody with an anime profile pic has a vested interest in my perception of the dating market
i wonder why
BUT THE ANIME PUSSY THO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nooooo she has to approach me first
then you’re an introverted sensor and you need an extroverted sensing woman
you need to become as sexy as possible and learn about extroverted sensing women, they are the kind to approach introverted sensing men
i was joking because that's the mindset some people in this thread have. that if the woman doesn't approach you that means she doesn't have any interest in you and that it'll never work out.
if you have introverted sensing yes
>5'5", 179 lbs, and balding on my crown
>went to board game bar in my city to mess around and have drinks and a woman approached me since she liked my Berserk shirt and we played Catan
>afterwards, asked me to join her at her place and we fricked
happened 2 months ago and I'm still seeing her from time to time. before that I got approached by a girl maybe once every 3 weeks
i dunno what to tell you guys, I think I'm ugly, have legit gyno (shirt kinda hides it), am short, and have a bald spot. I'm goofy and friendly, especially when drunk though. Had most success at nerdy events like this and with bi women who want to peg me. I swear to god it's not that bad, just go outside
btw i just made all of this up and anybody can do it lol
she was also slightly taller than me.
i feel really bad for people who are like 5'8" with full heads of hair, or with mild insecurities who think they have to have their entire lives together to meet someone.
it is such a confidence boost for people on here to think i'm lying though. i genuinely don't understand how someone can be 6'0+ and a virgin past 25 unless they literally don't leave the house.
Congrats anon I’m proud of you
me when i congratulate my fictional character and hope others will clap
have you tried going to an alternative bars or meetups alone
it's not that hard to make friends or meet people
wrong post
yeah if i had an extremely unlikely situation that nobody else has can relate to i’d feel special too
anyone would
anyway back to the discussion
beautiful cope here
good for you anon. hope you find something lasting.
>3 weeks
meant 3 YEARS lmfao
The real thing to get from this is that you have to graphic shirt max. I am not even joking. If you wear anime/manga shirts from slightly more niche series like Berserk, Monster, Haibane Renmei, autist women will talk to you. I swear to god this sounds moronic and like the complete opposite of what Cinemaphile and conventional fashion websites will tell you, but similar shit has also worked for me.
if you behave like pic related, guaranteed you´ll get pussy sooner or later