>why did Wakanda never make an empire then?
Because then the world would be africa centric with whites, asians and probably even non-wakandan africans being seen as the opressed ones.
If you mean an empire on earth ofcourse.
Plus modern writers wouldn't be able to write that.
>why did Wakanda never make an empire then?
Because then the world would be africa centric with whites, asians and probably even non-wakandan africans being seen as the opressed ones.
If you mean an empire on earth ofcourse.
Plus modern writers wouldn't be able to write that.
Space Wakanda is an in-universe bootstrap paradox. Wakanda is so advanced because T'Challa used time travel to give ancient Wakandans advanced tech which they used to form a space empire that had the advanced tech T'Challa gave them.
It's a stable time loop, not a bootstrap paradox.
T'Challa sends a group of explorers through a wormhole tracking the path of the asteroid that deposited Wakannda's vibranium. Something goes wrong and the ship is sent 2000 years back in time. The explorers, lost and stuck, become conquerors in Wakanda's name.
T'Challa, having lost contact with the team, decides to follow them through the wormhole. This time everything works as expected, so winds up in the modern day Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda.
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Why does this feel like a Dr. Doom scheme?
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Because it is that something he would do, if he was written consistently as currently there is nothing that Doom is striving towards? He has become pic related
Well, What if... already made that a reality.
Let's remember that in the pathetic episode of Starlord Tchalla there was a Wakandan ship in the Collector's things
Which surely already implies that WAKANDA THE BLACK NATION WITH BLACKS GOVERNING WITHOUT EVEN A WHITE NEAR ARRIVAL FIRST IN SPACE AND NOT THE WHITE UNITED STATES.
That's literally why that's the core of his movie's plot. "If Wakanda exists, why the frick DIDN'T they stop the Atlantic Slave Trade?" would be the first thing most black people would ask.
>the fact gets more believable
it's a known fact you brainwashed moron
wow, is that what leftoids are actually like? they really just openly deny reality because they don't like it and have been told it's good to do so?
?
LOL
What?
You'll claim muh white race when the people who are caucasoid that you claim wouldn't even cross the street to piss on you if you were on fire.
Never forget that Hudlin had Black Panther marry Storm, who he had barely interacted with, purely because she was the most recognizable black woman in Marvel. The fact that Marvel let him baffles me to this day.
Is it like how they married white queen and ironman? I mean their two nouvea riche white trash pull themselves up by their boot straps types.
But I guess white people REALLY have a problem with two black skinned people getting together and them not sleeping with white people or whatever else.
>But I guess white people REALLY have a problem with two black skinned people getting together and them not sleeping with white people or whatever else.
No we're actually pretty happy when you stick to your own.
>Is it like how they married white queen and ironman? I mean their two nouvea riche white trash pull themselves up by their boot straps types.
>But I guess white people REALLY have a problem with two black skinned people getting together and them not sleeping with white people or whatever else.
Excuse me? Want to try that again?
Cavemen developed weapons and the concept of "Let someone else do it for me, by force, without having to pay them"
While the star charters. I don't know, I guess they were too focused on the stars to see the white men arrive with chains.
But they're so smart and powerful and advanced, surely they would be able to fight off literal cavemen. Or maybe they're just too noble and righteous to resort to violence even to prevent literal slavery.
Actually it was other black people that came with chains, and then sold them. Whites only arrived and were like oh shit these are for sale and so cheap? Gimme. We need a black samurai for japs to laugh at.
>Jews and arabs actually.
So Non-Christain whites and Arabs
Actually searching for "who was first" is stupid.
Not because you can't get to the root of black slavery, but because people today don't care about that.
Did whites, blacks, browns, yellows, Arabs, israelites or other religions enslave people, including their own people? Yes, it is evident, there is evidence, it is logical that it happened, it continues to happen in Korea for example.
But no one cares because it only matters that "White enslaved black", it does not matter if the English started it or if countries like Spain and by extension all of Latin America also had black slaves, it only matters "White enslaved black IN THE UNITED STATES"
>it continues to happen in Korea for example.
North or South?
If South, then what the frick?
Though if you're talking about illegal human trafficking, then I think it's in more than just South Korea. Hits the US too I'd imagine.
>We need a black samurai for japs to laugh at.
I was watching a video on Yasuke and a japanese person in the comment section (or a weeb pretending to be Japanese, the hell do I know) said that Yasuke couldn't be a Samurai because he didn't have 2 swords. Samurai (as in warrior nobility) carried two swords, but peasants could carry one.
Dunno if that's true, but it was interesting.
They’re about half correct. The two swords are called a daisho set, which consisted of a big and small sword, with the bigger one being used for combat and the smaller one generally being a decorative backup weapon, with there being a custom of visiting samurai leaving their larger katana sword at the door while still carrying the smaller one around inside. As far as peasants carrying swords goes, Yasuke’s master Oda Nobunaga was working to essentially yank weapons out of the hands of the peasantry to prevent further uprisings against samurai, so Yasuke openly carrying a weapon at all still means he’s at minimum on the level of a trusted retainer or soldier instead of a peasant under his boss. So at the most charitable, he’d be a samurai albeit one with no lands or much political power, at worst one of Nobunaga’s retainers that he gave a weapon only to distinguish him from the rabble and didn’t expect him to see much combat, also effectively denying him the same level of authority you’d give a proper samurai.
I'd unironically love to see a NoI capeshit comic. It'd be balls-to-the-wall insane.
I wanna see professor tricknology facing off against the caped ape.
>Might to maintain our cultural integrity
Yeah living in a shit hole corner of the earth that nobody wants to visit probably doesn't hurt. Kun Lun's also a paradise.
Reduced to the same fate as any story the fans couldn't give two shits about; Existing in comic book limbo save for when obssessed writers decide to throw them in as cameos. Like seriously, I don't think I've heard a single Black Panther fan actually talk about Space Wakanda either positively or negatively, and it makes sense. Wakanda at least vaguely resembles a burgerlander's (lack of) understanding of African culture, Space Wakanda is essentially if an Afrocentrist jacked off over his race-swapped Star Wars fanfiction and sold it to Marvel.
What a moronic statement from Nig Panther. Increased reliance on technology leads to a physically weaker generation. Wakanda would be a hicktown of degenerate hunched over wimps
didn't Western European Stone Age civilisations mostly worship using complex star charts?
it's the reason Stonehenge and the Ring of Brodgar were constructed
Rome would be considered a classical civilisation so I don't think T'challa's statement about Cavemen applies, however, Hudlin's run was filled with bizarre ahistorical bits in an attempt to wank off Wakanda because it was very apparent that Hudlin knows frick all about history in either Africa or Europe.
makes me wonder why he even wanted the book in the first place.
Hudlin couldn't even get modern comic continuity right, you expected him to know world history?
Reduced to the same fate as any story the fans couldn't give two shits about; Existing in comic book limbo save for when obssessed writers decide to throw them in as cameos. Like seriously, I don't think I've heard a single Black Panther fan actually talk about Space Wakanda either positively or negatively, and it makes sense. Wakanda at least vaguely resembles a burgerlander's (lack of) understanding of African culture, Space Wakanda is essentially if an Afrocentrist jacked off over his race-swapped Star Wars fanfiction and sold it to Marvel.
I liked the space arc. I saw clear inspiration from the 1968 Planet of the Apes, from Jason and the Argonauts, and even from Arthurian legend, but nothing from Star Wars once you get past the occasional interstellar dogfight and general space opera aesthetic.
Joe Quesada basically just gave Hudlin the book (despite Hudlin having next to no writing experience) because he was a black Hollywood guy who happened to know Neal Adams' phone number. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IeUkGA_3dE
>[Black Panther] got beat up too much for me. Now this is a point that Dwayne McDuffie and I debate about a lot... >I don't see Batman being beat to a pulp and come back
The racists will look at the run of this moron casual who doesn't read the comics he complains about and spam the worst of it for decades and decades.
Everyone else just wants to pretend it never happened.
T'challa did get beat to complete shit in a lot of runs like in Jungle Action where he spends half of the run with his costume shredded and bleeding out and nearly scraping wins against Killmonger, I'm not sure why this is considered a negative though to show your protagonist struggling and overcoming the odds
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The Batman comparison, though. Imagine saying Batman never got beat up. Instead of hiring him Joey Q should have beat his ass with a Knightfall HC.
T'challa did get beat to complete shit in a lot of runs like in Jungle Action where he spends half of the run with his costume shredded and bleeding out and nearly scraping wins against Killmonger, I'm not sure why this is considered a negative though to show your protagonist struggling and overcoming the odds
The hero should always get a little beat up, either physically or emotionally. It's undramatic if they just sail through everything the world throws at them.
But when it comes to Black Panther, I think the feeling that 20th century BP was a lame jobber tends to stem from his role in the Avengers, where he was often one of the weakest members around and didn't have a cool/funny characterisation to compensate for that like, say, Hawkeye. From Priest's blog: >I was a little horrified when the words "Black" and "Panther" came out of Joe's mouth. I mean, Black Panther? Who reads Black Panther? Black Panther?! The guy with no powers? The guy in the back of the Avengers class photo, whose main job was to point and cry out, "Look— A BIG, SCALY MONSTER! THOR— GO GET HIM!!" That guy?! >No, PANTHER was not the move. Panther was, by most any objective standard, dull. He had no powers. He had no witty speech pattern, bub. His supporting cast was a bunch of soul brothers in diapers with bones through their noses. King T'Challa is, by necessity, a man of secrecy and cunning, which is difficult to illustrate if he has thought balloons over his head telling the reader everything he's thinking. Or, worse, if he's narrating his own story and blathering on and on and on. Hard to convey cunning from a motormouth.
https://digitalpriest.com/legacy/comics/adventures/frames/panther_intro.htm
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>BP was a lame jobber tends to stem from his role in the Avengers, where he was often one of the weakest members around and didn't have a cool/funny characterisation to compensate for that
yeah I'm honestly a bit baffled why Roy Thomas had such a hard time writing BP when at his basic core he just the Shadow but a black guy from africa, you would have thought a Goldan-age nerd like Thomas would have figured that out really quickly
>A nation in Africa became technologically advanced >And all it took was a giant magic rock that gave them limitless energy, impenetrable armor, and unbreakable tools and weapons.
This isn’t exactly an accomplishment.
Ethiopia did alright as a monarchy during the 19th century but they were also Christians which most of Africa at the time was not. and they only started falling apart during the 50s and 60s
Horn Africans are a different breed (literally). They did well enough in antiquity, albeit too far South to get a lot of spotlight during Greece and Rome's heyday.
The real red pill is that black people undoubtedly respect racists far more than liberals
Only rural/Southern ones. I grew up (and still live) in the sticks in the south and it's definitely a lot easier to deal with a guy that calls you a Black person and doesn't want anything to do with you than someone being duplicitous and condescending thinking you're a moron.
Does this writer think all white people are the same? Cuz Gypsies and israelites aren't well-liked among the rest of white people, and he could have learned that with a 5 second Google search.
I'm surprised this made it past editors because usually they would only let a character say anything vaguely race realist if they want you to hate his guts
At this point I’m surprised no one at Marvel accidentally proved horseshoe theory as real by making Yakub a Black Panther villain that used the magic rock to create all of the white people who ever existed in Marvel to try and claim Wakanda for himself, only for his creations to turn on him at his moment of triumph and teaching the ancient Wakandans to never trust whites.
Bit too on the nose. That and they never seem to really agree whether to make groups like the Inhumans, the Wakandans, the Mutants, or the whatever lame supervillain-of-the-moment as the big swinging dick pre/stoneage powerhouse.
Everyone who's in the know would tell you it's the Deviants, but that would require you to read The Eternals to know
>while black men were inseminating white b***hes on the moon?
I know this is troll, but doesn't this mean that "black b***hes" were very likely fricked by "crackers"
I love how the oldest record of historical "pulp" fiction is from some Greek guy who writes about an adventure where he and his buddies crash land on the moon and witness a war going on between the moon people and the sun people. The same novel of which where he promises to make a sequel but never does.
>Reggie Hudlin
I always lmao at his books. Even when he’s portraying anti-black racism, his ego won’t allow him to angle it without fluffing up black men in the process. Like Doom thinks Africans are inferior but the whitey also has to admit that blacks are physically more impressive. Hudlin literally cannot stop from MUH DICKING, it’s like a compulsion for him.
Wakanda being an isolationist empire behind the shadows and letting the entire continent drift into foreign interests and warlordism while condemning other continental powers and will always be a stain to their utopia and no writer has or will ever be able to breach that topic with Wakandans taking the moral high ground.
Functionally it makes Wakanda, the African nation, little more than a gated community and the colonization of Africa gentrification of the surrounding area.
Functionally it makes Wakanda, the African nation, little more than a gated community and the colonization of Africa gentrification of the surrounding area.
Aren't all utopias like this? I mean can anyone name an utopia that helped the outside world? Even if Wakanda wanted to help, what could they have done while keeping the Vibrainum safe?
>Every ancient non-white culture credited with inventing shit >Suddenly forgot it(whitey stole it) >Living in squalor to this day
You know i simply don't believe the human-ape hybrids invented anything. White people are the only humans on this planet.
But at least they still have Wakanda.
>White people are the only humans on this planet.
Trans-species filth whose ancestors laid with the Neanderthal animal and carries the taint of that bestial union to this day. Those in the East who fornicated with the Denisovans are no better. No, anon, the only true humans left, the only genetically pure humans, are still in Africa. In lesser numbers than one might hope, though, given the European half-men sought to spread their genetic taint back into Africa.
>the only genetically pure humans, are still in Africa.
The Human Genome Project shits all over that. All non-whites are the products of hybridization with near-human ancestors.
Go be homosexual erectus somewhere else, homo.
Imagine unironically posting this despite the actual mountains of evidence to the contrary. People like you should be fed to bears. Not because of what you like or choose to believe, but because you fly in the face of the facts and choose to subscribe to falsehoods.
>super intelligent race with ebony skin and star charting powers were beaten into submission by literal naked mud eaters, stone throwing monkeys from eurocaves
not making a good point there
Never forget that Hudlin had Black Panther marry Storm, who he had barely interacted with, purely because she was the most recognizable black woman in Marvel. The fact that Marvel let him baffles me to this day.
I don't get why anons keep acting like this relationship was entirely just Hudlin. I think it's dumb to marry them off, but T'Challa and Storm canonically knew each other in childhood long before Hudlin ever came around. There is a basis to it.
The more obvious point to make against Hudlin's marrying them is that the Marvel Team-Up story which revealed this backstory also ended on the pretty definitive line that they would only remain friends forever.
Even Black Panther hates gypsies.
isn't that sound normal?
Doom being racist as an Eastern Euro is on brand. Meanwhile Wakandan space empire is a lame cope about black history
I gotta say I actually love Doom & Black panther being racist fricks.
He was saying there were doing Astrology not being cosmic space adventurers. although the latter wouldn't surprise me.
Wasn't space Wakanda already there?
Also, Wakandan arrogance knows no bounds, when compared to Atlantis and civilizations earlier than theirs.
I think Panther is just little bit pissed since Doom did wine and dine Storm in the past
>Wasn't space Wakanda already there?
I meant publication wise
Wait shit, space Wakanda is real?
fricking never mind then lol. Fricking hell why did Wakanda never make an empire then?
>why did Wakanda never make an empire then?
Because then the world would be africa centric with whites, asians and probably even non-wakandan africans being seen as the opressed ones.
If you mean an empire on earth ofcourse.
Plus modern writers wouldn't be able to write that.
Space Wakanda is an in-universe bootstrap paradox. Wakanda is so advanced because T'Challa used time travel to give ancient Wakandans advanced tech which they used to form a space empire that had the advanced tech T'Challa gave them.
Who wrote this shit?
coates
You misread that story. There is no bootstrap.
It's a stable time loop, not a bootstrap paradox.
T'Challa sends a group of explorers through a wormhole tracking the path of the asteroid that deposited Wakannda's vibranium. Something goes wrong and the ship is sent 2000 years back in time. The explorers, lost and stuck, become conquerors in Wakanda's name.
T'Challa, having lost contact with the team, decides to follow them through the wormhole. This time everything works as expected, so winds up in the modern day Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda.
Why does this feel like a Dr. Doom scheme?
Because it is that something he would do, if he was written consistently as currently there is nothing that Doom is striving towards? He has become pic related
it's so fricking lame.
They never could figure out boats
Well, What if... already made that a reality.
Let's remember that in the pathetic episode of Starlord Tchalla there was a Wakandan ship in the Collector's things
Which surely already implies that WAKANDA THE BLACK NATION WITH BLACKS GOVERNING WITHOUT EVEN A WHITE NEAR ARRIVAL FIRST IN SPACE AND NOT THE WHITE UNITED STATES.
>Astrology
The more they insert "Wakanda is the greatest ever!" the more the argument of them just letting the slave trade happen gets more believable.
That's literally why that's the core of his movie's plot. "If Wakanda exists, why the frick DIDN'T they stop the Atlantic Slave Trade?" would be the first thing most black people would ask.
Shame they turned him moronic near the end with the "Toss me to the ocean, just like my ancestors"
>the fact gets more believable
it's a known fact you brainwashed moron
wow, is that what leftoids are actually like? they really just openly deny reality because they don't like it and have been told it's good to do so?
Unless he's talking to Dracula. Then racism is beneath him.
It's not Whitey's fault they spent thousands of years making up gay Anansi the Spider stories while Europe was busy developing through constant war
?
LOL
What?
You'll claim muh white race when the people who are caucasoid that you claim wouldn't even cross the street to piss on you if you were on fire.
Is it like how they married white queen and ironman? I mean their two nouvea riche white trash pull themselves up by their boot straps types.
But I guess white people REALLY have a problem with two black skinned people getting together and them not sleeping with white people or whatever else.
>But I guess white people REALLY have a problem with two black skinned people getting together and them not sleeping with white people or whatever else.
No we're actually pretty happy when you stick to your own.
>Is it like how they married white queen and ironman? I mean their two nouvea riche white trash pull themselves up by their boot straps types.
>But I guess white people REALLY have a problem with two black skinned people getting together and them not sleeping with white people or whatever else.
Excuse me? Want to try that again?
how did the cave dwellers enslave the star charters?
Cavemen developed weapons and the concept of "Let someone else do it for me, by force, without having to pay them"
While the star charters. I don't know, I guess they were too focused on the stars to see the white men arrive with chains.
But they're so smart and powerful and advanced, surely they would be able to fight off literal cavemen. Or maybe they're just too noble and righteous to resort to violence even to prevent literal slavery.
Actually it was other black people that came with chains, and then sold them. Whites only arrived and were like oh shit these are for sale and so cheap? Gimme. We need a black samurai for japs to laugh at.
>Whites
Jews and arabs actually.
The arabs castrated thier slaves, but israelites wanted more. That's why there's a black problem in America, but not the middle-east.
>Jews and arabs actually.
So Non-Christain whites and Arabs
>americans think all israelites are ashkenazi
Actually searching for "who was first" is stupid.
Not because you can't get to the root of black slavery, but because people today don't care about that.
Did whites, blacks, browns, yellows, Arabs, israelites or other religions enslave people, including their own people? Yes, it is evident, there is evidence, it is logical that it happened, it continues to happen in Korea for example.
But no one cares because it only matters that "White enslaved black", it does not matter if the English started it or if countries like Spain and by extension all of Latin America also had black slaves, it only matters "White enslaved black IN THE UNITED STATES"
>it continues to happen in Korea for example.
North or South?
If South, then what the frick?
Though if you're talking about illegal human trafficking, then I think it's in more than just South Korea. Hits the US too I'd imagine.
>We need a black samurai for japs to laugh at.
I was watching a video on Yasuke and a japanese person in the comment section (or a weeb pretending to be Japanese, the hell do I know) said that Yasuke couldn't be a Samurai because he didn't have 2 swords. Samurai (as in warrior nobility) carried two swords, but peasants could carry one.
Dunno if that's true, but it was interesting.
They’re about half correct. The two swords are called a daisho set, which consisted of a big and small sword, with the bigger one being used for combat and the smaller one generally being a decorative backup weapon, with there being a custom of visiting samurai leaving their larger katana sword at the door while still carrying the smaller one around inside. As far as peasants carrying swords goes, Yasuke’s master Oda Nobunaga was working to essentially yank weapons out of the hands of the peasantry to prevent further uprisings against samurai, so Yasuke openly carrying a weapon at all still means he’s at minimum on the level of a trusted retainer or soldier instead of a peasant under his boss. So at the most charitable, he’d be a samurai albeit one with no lands or much political power, at worst one of Nobunaga’s retainers that he gave a weapon only to distinguish him from the rabble and didn’t expect him to see much combat, also effectively denying him the same level of authority you’d give a proper samurai.
Nobunaga was an eccentric lunatic. He probably only kept Yasuke around to troll his other vassals.
but he doesn't mean the whole africa, right? just wakanda. Kinda feeling superior as a tribe or people to the rest of the continent.
Educate yourself
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/143697385/
So was Coates inspired by this line to create Space Wakanda
>military might to maintain our cultural integrity
So is T'challa low-key insinuating that Euros should do the same?
Will marvel ever canonize jakub?
I'd unironically love to see a NoI capeshit comic. It'd be balls-to-the-wall insane.
I wanna see professor tricknology facing off against the caped ape.
Sounds like the funniest shit ever.
>Might to maintain our cultural integrity
Yeah living in a shit hole corner of the earth that nobody wants to visit probably doesn't hurt. Kun Lun's also a paradise.
You'd think T'challa would be more humble considering he's only the Black Panther cause his ancestors got lucky
He is dealing with a fellow mega racist, so he cannot shrink down
Dumbass panther thinks he was a kang
he was yt boi. walk away
Is this Hudlin?
Yes, it's Hudlin.
No, this was penned before Coates ever wrote a comic.
He was talking about the Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda, the space Wakandans. That's the second half of the Coates run.
Space Wakanda still around or did the rest of the universe decide to eradicate them for being massive buttholes.
Reduced to the same fate as any story the fans couldn't give two shits about; Existing in comic book limbo save for when obssessed writers decide to throw them in as cameos. Like seriously, I don't think I've heard a single Black Panther fan actually talk about Space Wakanda either positively or negatively, and it makes sense. Wakanda at least vaguely resembles a burgerlander's (lack of) understanding of African culture, Space Wakanda is essentially if an Afrocentrist jacked off over his race-swapped Star Wars fanfiction and sold it to Marvel.
What a moronic statement from Nig Panther. Increased reliance on technology leads to a physically weaker generation. Wakanda would be a hicktown of degenerate hunched over wimps
Reginog Hoodlum, Tennessee Copes and their consequences have been a disaster for the Wakandan Race
didn't Western European Stone Age civilisations mostly worship using complex star charts?
it's the reason Stonehenge and the Ring of Brodgar were constructed
The god of war was literally Mars.
But don't expect any dindu to know any history outside "that slavery n sheet".
Rome would be considered a classical civilisation so I don't think T'challa's statement about Cavemen applies, however, Hudlin's run was filled with bizarre ahistorical bits in an attempt to wank off Wakanda because it was very apparent that Hudlin knows frick all about history in either Africa or Europe.
makes me wonder why he even wanted the book in the first place.
Hudlin couldn't even get modern comic continuity right, you expected him to know world history?
I liked the space arc. I saw clear inspiration from the 1968 Planet of the Apes, from Jason and the Argonauts, and even from Arthurian legend, but nothing from Star Wars once you get past the occasional interstellar dogfight and general space opera aesthetic.
Joe Quesada basically just gave Hudlin the book (despite Hudlin having next to no writing experience) because he was a black Hollywood guy who happened to know Neal Adams' phone number. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IeUkGA_3dE
>[Black Panther] got beat up too much for me. Now this is a point that Dwayne McDuffie and I debate about a lot...
>I don't see Batman being beat to a pulp and come back
The racists will look at the run of this moron casual who doesn't read the comics he complains about and spam the worst of it for decades and decades.
Everyone else just wants to pretend it never happened.
T'challa did get beat to complete shit in a lot of runs like in Jungle Action where he spends half of the run with his costume shredded and bleeding out and nearly scraping wins against Killmonger, I'm not sure why this is considered a negative though to show your protagonist struggling and overcoming the odds
The Batman comparison, though. Imagine saying Batman never got beat up. Instead of hiring him Joey Q should have beat his ass with a Knightfall HC.
The hero should always get a little beat up, either physically or emotionally. It's undramatic if they just sail through everything the world throws at them.
But when it comes to Black Panther, I think the feeling that 20th century BP was a lame jobber tends to stem from his role in the Avengers, where he was often one of the weakest members around and didn't have a cool/funny characterisation to compensate for that like, say, Hawkeye. From Priest's blog:
>I was a little horrified when the words "Black" and "Panther" came out of Joe's mouth. I mean, Black Panther? Who reads Black Panther? Black Panther?! The guy with no powers? The guy in the back of the Avengers class photo, whose main job was to point and cry out, "Look— A BIG, SCALY MONSTER! THOR— GO GET HIM!!" That guy?!
>No, PANTHER was not the move. Panther was, by most any objective standard, dull. He had no powers. He had no witty speech pattern, bub. His supporting cast was a bunch of soul brothers in diapers with bones through their noses. King T'Challa is, by necessity, a man of secrecy and cunning, which is difficult to illustrate if he has thought balloons over his head telling the reader everything he's thinking. Or, worse, if he's narrating his own story and blathering on and on and on. Hard to convey cunning from a motormouth.
https://digitalpriest.com/legacy/comics/adventures/frames/panther_intro.htm
>BP was a lame jobber tends to stem from his role in the Avengers, where he was often one of the weakest members around and didn't have a cool/funny characterisation to compensate for that
yeah I'm honestly a bit baffled why Roy Thomas had such a hard time writing BP when at his basic core he just the Shadow but a black guy from africa, you would have thought a Goldan-age nerd like Thomas would have figured that out really quickly
Mars was named after the Roman god of war lol. They didn't name the god after planet lmao.
They believed the little red dot in the sky to be him. Learn history before talking about it, amerimutt
Wtf, I love maintaining our cultural integrity using our military might now.
But Doom isn't European. He's a filthy gyppo and they come from India.
It's worse, he's an euromutt
No, he's not. He's literally a gypsy.
>posting nu-doom
aren't both of these fricks isolationist dictators?
Thailand and Japan both managed to avoid being completely fricked without superior technology. Wakandans are pussies.
>A nation in Africa became technologically advanced
>And all it took was a giant magic rock that gave them limitless energy, impenetrable armor, and unbreakable tools and weapons.
This isn’t exactly an accomplishment.
That's kind of an interesting plot point that could be explored with some small measure of humility, but it never will.
It is because real africans would have fricked it up and wasted it until Europeans arrived.
Ethiopia did alright as a monarchy during the 19th century but they were also Christians which most of Africa at the time was not. and they only started falling apart during the 50s and 60s
Horn Africans are a different breed (literally). They did well enough in antiquity, albeit too far South to get a lot of spotlight during Greece and Rome's heyday.
Only rural/Southern ones. I grew up (and still live) in the sticks in the south and it's definitely a lot easier to deal with a guy that calls you a Black person and doesn't want anything to do with you than someone being duplicitous and condescending thinking you're a moron.
One very intesting thing about Ethiopia is that they supposedly have the arc (ark?) of the covenant given to them by the romans.
why did the romans give it to them?
Probably because Ethiopia was one of the first countries to adopt Christianity as their official religion
Has there been a comic that explores what would happen if other countries had Vibranium?
Does this writer think all white people are the same? Cuz Gypsies and israelites aren't well-liked among the rest of white people, and he could have learned that with a 5 second Google search.
>Does this writer think all white people are the same?
it was written by Hudlin so what do you think?
Is that the same dude who wrote BP choking out Silver Surfer?
No. McDuffie's FF was great.
OK, who the hell wrote this crap?
Also, kind of big talk from T'Challa there, considering it's all stolen alien tech anyway.
Kirby since every sentence ends with a ! and he did do a 12-issue run on him after Mcgregor stopped being able to hit deadlines
>>Dr Doom admits BBC is superior.
Damn Marvel….
>Gypsies spread BBC memes
Imagine my shock.
Huh?
I'm surprised this made it past editors because usually they would only let a character say anything vaguely race realist if they want you to hate his guts
At this point I’m surprised no one at Marvel accidentally proved horseshoe theory as real by making Yakub a Black Panther villain that used the magic rock to create all of the white people who ever existed in Marvel to try and claim Wakanda for himself, only for his creations to turn on him at his moment of triumph and teaching the ancient Wakandans to never trust whites.
Bit too on the nose. That and they never seem to really agree whether to make groups like the Inhumans, the Wakandans, the Mutants, or the whatever lame supervillain-of-the-moment as the big swinging dick pre/stoneage powerhouse.
Everyone who's in the know would tell you it's the Deviants, but that would require you to read The Eternals to know
I suspect the writer is very angry that Arabs and Europeans have literally been BTFOing Africans for centuries.
The real red pill is that black people undoubtedly respect racists far more than liberals
Duh, nobody respects liberals.
I still wish they had the balls to make Yakub a canon wakandan
Are crackers still mad that they was in caves while black men were inseminating white b***hes on the moon?
It's interesting when black people subscribe to this shit, completely disregard black girls or treat them like utter garbage
>while black men were inseminating white b***hes on the moon?
I know this is troll, but doesn't this mean that "black b***hes" were very likely fricked by "crackers"
I love how the oldest record of historical "pulp" fiction is from some Greek guy who writes about an adventure where he and his buddies crash land on the moon and witness a war going on between the moon people and the sun people. The same novel of which where he promises to make a sequel but never does.
isn't that a Roman novel rather than a Greek one?
It was written in Greek but published within the Roman Empire.
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>Reggie Hudlin
I always lmao at his books. Even when he’s portraying anti-black racism, his ego won’t allow him to angle it without fluffing up black men in the process. Like Doom thinks Africans are inferior but the whitey also has to admit that blacks are physically more impressive. Hudlin literally cannot stop from MUH DICKING, it’s like a compulsion for him.
Inferiority complex all around.
Wakanda being an isolationist empire behind the shadows and letting the entire continent drift into foreign interests and warlordism while condemning other continental powers and will always be a stain to their utopia and no writer has or will ever be able to breach that topic with Wakandans taking the moral high ground.
Functionally it makes Wakanda, the African nation, little more than a gated community and the colonization of Africa gentrification of the surrounding area.
Aren't all utopias like this? I mean can anyone name an utopia that helped the outside world? Even if Wakanda wanted to help, what could they have done while keeping the Vibrainum safe?
Not all utopias have a race angle to them.
>Every ancient non-white culture credited with inventing shit
>Suddenly forgot it(whitey stole it)
>Living in squalor to this day
You know i simply don't believe the human-ape hybrids invented anything. White people are the only humans on this planet.
But at least they still have Wakanda.
Whites were definitely the ones that braved the seas and oceans the most which led to them gaining an advantage in exploration and migrations.
*COUGH polynesians COUGH*
>White people are the only humans on this planet.
Trans-species filth whose ancestors laid with the Neanderthal animal and carries the taint of that bestial union to this day. Those in the East who fornicated with the Denisovans are no better. No, anon, the only true humans left, the only genetically pure humans, are still in Africa. In lesser numbers than one might hope, though, given the European half-men sought to spread their genetic taint back into Africa.
>the only genetically pure humans, are still in Africa.
The Human Genome Project shits all over that. All non-whites are the products of hybridization with near-human ancestors.
Go be homosexual erectus somewhere else, homo.
Imagine unironically posting this despite the actual mountains of evidence to the contrary. People like you should be fed to bears. Not because of what you like or choose to believe, but because you fly in the face of the facts and choose to subscribe to falsehoods.
Well maybe that one homosexual who keeps whining Doom isn't racist can shut the frick up now
Wuz he Doomed?
>super intelligent race with ebony skin and star charting powers were beaten into submission by literal naked mud eaters, stone throwing monkeys from eurocaves
not making a good point there
>Dr Doom might not be a nice person
Oh shock and awe.
Never forget that Hudlin had Black Panther marry Storm, who he had barely interacted with, purely because she was the most recognizable black woman in Marvel. The fact that Marvel let him baffles me to this day.
And then she left him and started fricking Wolverine.
#Bleached #Canadastrong #Peanutbutter
Yeah, I always thought that was kind of random, considering BP had barely interacted with Storm or the X-Men for that matter
I don't get why anons keep acting like this relationship was entirely just Hudlin. I think it's dumb to marry them off, but T'Challa and Storm canonically knew each other in childhood long before Hudlin ever came around. There is a basis to it.
The more obvious point to make against Hudlin's marrying them is that the Marvel Team-Up story which revealed this backstory also ended on the pretty definitive line that they would only remain friends forever.
Is he calling Gypsies stupid? What a fricking racist.
does anyone have the "wakanda developed anti-firearm technology centuries ago" page