What even is arthouse at this point? It used to just be old and foreign movies when such content was hard to find, but in the digital (and by extension the streaming) era the term "arthouse" is meaningless.
You can't say it means niche or foreign or old or black&white or experimental, because those things can also apply to so many other popular/blockbuster/hollywood/mainstream/casual movies as well, and many "arthouse" movies were the mainstream of their time or place.
>What even is arthouse at this point?
Something that filters normies because it isn't easily explainable or digestible and only appeals to some niche audience as a result.
How about you stop being a homosexual, and actually give an argument for your point. Who is or isn't a normie, what constitutes as filtering, and when is something consider not niche.
Besides, your definition is retarded because it's relative, and that arthouse no longer is a definition but a temporary status, and isn't contingent on the contents of the movie but rather people's reception. So hypothetically, the newest Marvel movie can be arthouse just by virtue of people's reaction. But almost unanimously people would say that Marvel films are the furtherest from being arthouse.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>actually give an argument for your point.
It was in the original post, you just lack reading comprehension.
>Who is or isn't a normie
Normies are people try to adapt to the status quo rather than question it. >what constitutes as filtering
The definition of filtering. >and when is something consider not niche.
When it has mass appeal rather some esoteric audience.
>the newest Marvel movie can be arthouse just by virtue of people's reaction.
They committee and test audience those things to get the reactions they want, their entire goal is appealing to status quo and attracting normies which is why it is indeed the furthest thing from arthouse which is something fringe usually created by a auteur or esoteric organization that isn't just a reflection of the status quo zeitgeist.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>circular reasoning
Also, you just gave a new definition for arthouse by saying it is whatever made by fringe organizations, but even then you haven't established what constitutes as fringe enough.
And you say anything that is made by estorics and auteurs is arthouse, but those have also made widely popular movies and mainstream ones, thus invalidating your previous "niche = arthouse" idea. You pretty much fail to define what is arthouse, and what is niche when it comes to movies besides "niche is niche!".
Give us your best examples of arthouse then, maybe that will illuminate us.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>even then you haven't established what constitutes as fringe enough.
I did in the very first reply I made
>What even is arthouse at this point?
Something that filters normies because it isn't easily explainable or digestible and only appeals to some niche audience as a result.
and then I explained further when you pretended like I didn't explain it originally
>actually give an argument for your point.
It was in the original post, you just lack reading comprehension.
>Who is or isn't a normie
Normies are people try to adapt to the status quo rather than question it. >what constitutes as filtering
The definition of filtering. >and when is something consider not niche.
When it has mass appeal rather some esoteric audience.
>the newest Marvel movie can be arthouse just by virtue of people's reaction.
They committee and test audience those things to get the reactions they want, their entire goal is appealing to status quo and attracting normies which is why it is indeed the furthest thing from arthouse which is something fringe usually created by a auteur or esoteric organization that isn't just a reflection of the status quo zeitgeist.
. Just read those posts carefully and if you have any other obvious questions that aren't just retarded attempts to nitpick, read it again and again until the words actually penetrate your mind.
>And you say anything that is made by estorics and auteurs is arthouse,
No I didn't, I said fringe stuff is usually created that way instead of by corporate committee and demographics testing, stop being so extreme and trying to put words in other people's mouths and just learn to read and comprehend instead.
1 month ago
Anonymous
If only you'd take your own advice. You haven't given a clear definition yet, it's all relative. So if tomorrow an "arthouse" movie got popular, suddenly it isn't an "arthouse" movie. It's not a definition, like I said, a temporary status.
Give us an example of arthouse.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>circular reasoning
Also, you just gave a new definition for arthouse by saying it is whatever made by fringe organizations, but even then you haven't established what constitutes as fringe enough.
And you say anything that is made by estorics and auteurs is arthouse, but those have also made widely popular movies and mainstream ones, thus invalidating your previous "niche = arthouse" idea. You pretty much fail to define what is arthouse, and what is niche when it comes to movies besides "niche is niche!".
Give us your best examples of arthouse then, maybe that will illuminate us.
I'd like to also add >Normies are people try to adapt to the status quo rather than question it.
Is a retarded description, and you pretty much described revolutionaries. So by that definition anything that is challenging the status quo is arthouse, but guess what, every other mainstream movie is about "challenging the status quo"
That never works. Because the whole reason people like them is because they're not commercial.
So when they put all their money into a big budget movie, and it inevitably flops, they're basically dead.
Not civilization, just modern films and everyone seems to have lost the ability to connect with modern films since the medium is dying and hardly anyone cares about 99+% of new releases.
>Three tickets for me, my wife and my wife’s son for the newest A24-produced, genre-redefining, trope-subverting, atmospheric, dark and eerie, emotionally draining, gut wrenching, aesthetically heavy craft by post-horror auteur with an arthouse edge, dread-inducing, suspenseful build up with strong character development and gradual feeling of escalation, bone-chilling slow burn with “say more with less” approach and soul-shaking, blood-curdling, skin-crawling and nerve-wracking exercise in persistently looming dread where tension and anxiety permeates every frame as movie reaches its nail-biting, jaw-clenching and paranoia-inducing final climax, free of any cheap gore, cartoonish CGI or infantile jumpscares horror film, please.
I dont think i liked a single a24 movie, they were too up their own ass for me to be fair i didnt watch that many of them, because i hated the ones i did
There tv strategy has been like that since the beginning.
Name one A24 movie that's arthouse. Even entry rthouse.
I've only seen one movie in this pic
Was it seven samurai?
Le Samourai?
was it chungking express?
No Pluto Nash?
If Wild at Heart is arthouse then The Lighthouse absolutely fucking is.
the lighthouse is fucking shit im so tired of retards thinking it's anything beyond a fancy demo reel for dafoe and pattinson
What even is arthouse at this point? It used to just be old and foreign movies when such content was hard to find, but in the digital (and by extension the streaming) era the term "arthouse" is meaningless.
You can't say it means niche or foreign or old or black&white or experimental, because those things can also apply to so many other popular/blockbuster/hollywood/mainstream/casual movies as well, and many "arthouse" movies were the mainstream of their time or place.
>What even is arthouse at this point?
Something that filters normies because it isn't easily explainable or digestible and only appeals to some niche audience as a result.
Oh so are awful movies Arthouse then? They only appeal to a small Niche
So niche? What is the standard if something is or isn't niche?
Read the first half of the sentence again and look up what "as a result" means.
How about you stop being a homosexual, and actually give an argument for your point. Who is or isn't a normie, what constitutes as filtering, and when is something consider not niche.
Besides, your definition is retarded because it's relative, and that arthouse no longer is a definition but a temporary status, and isn't contingent on the contents of the movie but rather people's reception. So hypothetically, the newest Marvel movie can be arthouse just by virtue of people's reaction. But almost unanimously people would say that Marvel films are the furtherest from being arthouse.
>actually give an argument for your point.
It was in the original post, you just lack reading comprehension.
>Who is or isn't a normie
Normies are people try to adapt to the status quo rather than question it.
>what constitutes as filtering
The definition of filtering.
>and when is something consider not niche.
When it has mass appeal rather some esoteric audience.
>the newest Marvel movie can be arthouse just by virtue of people's reaction.
They committee and test audience those things to get the reactions they want, their entire goal is appealing to status quo and attracting normies which is why it is indeed the furthest thing from arthouse which is something fringe usually created by a auteur or esoteric organization that isn't just a reflection of the status quo zeitgeist.
>circular reasoning
Also, you just gave a new definition for arthouse by saying it is whatever made by fringe organizations, but even then you haven't established what constitutes as fringe enough.
And you say anything that is made by estorics and auteurs is arthouse, but those have also made widely popular movies and mainstream ones, thus invalidating your previous "niche = arthouse" idea. You pretty much fail to define what is arthouse, and what is niche when it comes to movies besides "niche is niche!".
Give us your best examples of arthouse then, maybe that will illuminate us.
>even then you haven't established what constitutes as fringe enough.
I did in the very first reply I made
and then I explained further when you pretended like I didn't explain it originally
. Just read those posts carefully and if you have any other obvious questions that aren't just retarded attempts to nitpick, read it again and again until the words actually penetrate your mind.
>And you say anything that is made by estorics and auteurs is arthouse,
No I didn't, I said fringe stuff is usually created that way instead of by corporate committee and demographics testing, stop being so extreme and trying to put words in other people's mouths and just learn to read and comprehend instead.
If only you'd take your own advice. You haven't given a clear definition yet, it's all relative. So if tomorrow an "arthouse" movie got popular, suddenly it isn't an "arthouse" movie. It's not a definition, like I said, a temporary status.
Give us an example of arthouse.
I'd like to also add
>Normies are people try to adapt to the status quo rather than question it.
Is a retarded description, and you pretty much described revolutionaries. So by that definition anything that is challenging the status quo is arthouse, but guess what, every other mainstream movie is about "challenging the status quo"
This is the only true arthouse film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irUXit3_lZc
one of the greatest movies ever made tbqh
what wpuld high level art house be?
The Lighthouse
Blame Ari Aster, the lost 35 million on his latest flick.
>Early Life
Its not his fault their marketing department dropped the ball and nobody knows the movie exists.
It's his fault the movie is shit
The critics and audience don't agree, most people just never heard of the movie.
The Stop Making Sense remaster was incredible in imax.
That never works. Because the whole reason people like them is because they're not commercial.
So when they put all their money into a big budget movie, and it inevitably flops, they're basically dead.
>elevator horror
>out of touch boomers have lost their ability to connect with the nuance of civilization
Sad!
Not civilization, just modern films and everyone seems to have lost the ability to connect with modern films since the medium is dying and hardly anyone cares about 99+% of new releases.
>the nuance of civilization
esl bait
>I have no fucking idea what a Force ghost is. And I don't care.
Lmao
>Three tickets for me, my wife and my wife’s son for the newest A24-produced, genre-redefining, trope-subverting, atmospheric, dark and eerie, emotionally draining, gut wrenching, aesthetically heavy craft by post-horror auteur with an arthouse edge, dread-inducing, suspenseful build up with strong character development and gradual feeling of escalation, bone-chilling slow burn with “say more with less” approach and soul-shaking, blood-curdling, skin-crawling and nerve-wracking exercise in persistently looming dread where tension and anxiety permeates every frame as movie reaches its nail-biting, jaw-clenching and paranoia-inducing final climax, free of any cheap gore, cartoonish CGI or infantile jumpscares horror film, please.
i had to google if Brie Larrson or that latina snow white are on the board of A24. Why are you so hysterical about it?
>A24 transitioning from gem to coal
I dont think i liked a single a24 movie, they were too up their own ass for me to be fair i didnt watch that many of them, because i hated the ones i did
what have you seen?
Ex machina, swiss army man, midsommar and the 2 eggers movies. Guess those last two were decent
>Ex machina, swiss army man, midsommar
kino, kino, kino. Lighthouse is kino too. I didn't like the vvitch tho