The tone shift in season 6 felt too abrupt and unnatural, especially when it came to Tony’s character
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The tone shift in season 6 felt too abrupt and unnatural, especially when it came to Tony’s character
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even more unpopular opinion about the sopranos; it was nothing like the real mafia. Plenty of ex mob guys have said that Tony would've been killed by his own crew if anyone ever found out he talking to a shrink; guys were killed over much less.
Another big misrepresentation is how much money the mob makes. IRL the guys living the high life are "racketeers" or white collar criminals. Guys like Tony, who run strip joints and hijack trucks, make shit money. IRL tony's entire crew wouldn't have pulled a million a year. But on the show even two bit crooks like Christopher live like kings.
The biggest knock the is the crime. In the eighties mob bosses took a nuke to the dick. The heads of all the families where imprisoned for life. By Tony's time the mob would've been a shell of it's former self.
Donnie Brasco is what mob life is really like. Dude struggling open parking meters, driving around in junkers, and fighting over pennies.
you realize that everything we think know about the mob is from rats, right?
Well no shit, who else is going to talk?
Tony’s strip club and other businesses were money laundering fronts. He made must of his money in the show in construction scams and illegal gambling
Christopher lived in a shitty apartment, struggled to pay the bills in restaurants, spent all his time having to work.
Pasty was reduced to trying to extort coffee shops for protection money
Even though that anon is moronic, 'Ndrangheta is in Europe. They control like 90% of the coke supply in Europe. And they still hold that old school code similar to omerta. The clans mostly consist blood relatives as well. Kind of what Tony was trying to do unsuccessfully. Really fascinating, unfortunately there's not much info because of how secretive they are.
In US it's a whole different story at this point because of RICO and popular media etc. Who knows what they're up to now, mostly white collar schemes etc.
>Who knows what they're up to now, mostly white collar schemes etc.
waste management and recycling. it wasn't just a meme
t. work in the recycling industry
Yeah construction and taxi firms too
>They control like 90% of the coke supply in Europe. And they still hold that old school code similar to omerta. The clans mostly consist blood relatives as well. Kind of what Tony was trying to do unsuccessfully. Really fascinating, unfortunately there's not much info because of how secretive they are.
t. watched gomorrah too much.
Never watched that. Is it good?
it's filled with your so called knowledge lmao. cringe masturbation to.
From what I read it tells about the Mafia in Naples tho. 'Ndrangheta is a different thing.
That's the Italian mafia though, not the Americans pretending they're still Italian, mafia.
They control most of Italy and therefore a whole host of routes for drugs in particular to come in from North Africa and Albania.
t. Michael Franzese
give me the rundown on this grifter
He's a former mobster who is now a born again Christian. He earned the Colombo family millions on some gas scam he had set up. His dad was also a big time mobster and underboss of the family. He makes funny YouTube vids and shills his website and other products.
Made a fortune on a gas smuggling scheme in the mob. Never was a street guy really but made money. Never ratted but never got a heavy sentence, now just does Youtube videos.
>Guys like Tony, who run strip joints and hijack trucks, make shit money
You didn't pay attention to the show if you think that's how T got his cash
Read the Valachi Papers. It literally is just small-time Italian crooks who show their capable and make a name for themselves, like the other anon said, it's like Donnie Brasco.
>writing all of that to say "it's what it is"
what a homosexual
Tony was in the construction and garbage business. Wtf are you talking about?
One of the most famous Mafia bosses of all time, Frank Costello saw a psychiatrist. I think Imperioli also mentioned on Talking Sopranos he knew a psychiatrist friend who said she'd seen wiseguys over the years, so take that for what it's worth.
>THAT NEVER WOULDA WENT DOWN LIKE THAT IN MY DAY, I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR A FACT
>it's a Tony suddenly develops a gambling problem 6 seasons into the show episode
Exactly. It’s funny too how in the earlier seasons a strong part of Tony’s attitude was from being above the vices he peddled in, even abusing one of his best and oldest friends for being a degenerate gambler, Christopher for being a junkie, and never messed with the Bing’s strippers like Sil or Ralph
Come season 6 he’s using all kinds of drugs, fricking strippers and gambling away all his money all of a sudden with no self-control
>never messed with the Bing’s strippers like Sil or Ralph
Ge got sucked off by one in a stall in season 3
Also in his car in season 6.
he was lashing out against his fatha, read Tony's Vicarious Patricide theory
>8 years
>suddenly
The entire show is about Tony's midlife crisis
you don't have a midlife crisis for almost a decade. you buy some stupid zoomer shit, realise material wealth has little value in the grand scheme and either kamikaze into drugs/alcohol or start coping with religion
You go to Italy, you lift some weights, you watch a movie
>suddenly
isn't the entire point that Tony is a hypocrite? this is shown multiple times during the show. his whole gambling thing starts hitting when it's starting to crumble for him, and the gambling itself was tied to his father, wasn't it?
in any case, he's spiraling downwards throughout the entire show, it doesn't come from out of nowhere.
Tony develops the gambling addiction because of the stress of being a mob boss and also the betrayal he subconsciously felt from his father after the In Camelot episode.
Season one is extremely dated compared to the rest of the show and while it has great moments, it is the worst season.
Filtered, it was the second best season. S3 being the best
Last session between tony and melfi was rushed stupid
It is. The entire season is tony subconsciously rebelling against his father figures because being shot by Uncle Junior, someone who he genuinely loved, and then the near death experience genuinely fricked him up bad and he's stoo much of a tough guy to talk about it.
Melfi literally sees this, talks about, and then comments about it to her therapist, but then decides lmao psychopath and calls it quits even though she's seen Tony for almost a decade and for the first time he's undergoing a real emotional crisis
That's too fricking bad. Tony spent years practising the art of manipulation of Melfi, it consider it divine just that Tony gets left in the lurch when he actually needs her
I mean that's true, but from a storytelling aspect of a 6 season show it was kind of weak
Yeah I didn't jar me quite as much on the first watch but definitely on the second. It would've been interesting to see her get and cut ties with Tony is she had actually approached him about dealing with her rapist, and how Tony would then try to call in this favour, be rebuked and start really showing his true nature to Melfi.
Could've have him get popped just as Melfi is panicking about what Tony might do
I think she knew Tony would never change. He was a sociopath even if Chase said he wasn't. Tony had made his bed by 6B.
I feel bad for Carmela
Same. Tony in the last season is an absolute wienersucker to her
She slept with another man, and got dangerously close to that homosexual priest. He should have never taken her back that hypocrit c**t.
Why? She was in on the hit on Tony.
I'M NOT CAUGHT UP I'M NOT CAUGHT UP
6A was not good.
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No meadow nude scenes especially when the actress was still 16/17
Why did Tonys gang drop the broker business? Late 90s was the perfect time to start that shit and pump hard on IBM
check the dates on the show anon.
puss gave the FBI enough on webistics to bury the operation.
I thought Big Pussy admitted he gave all that shit to the feds. They were on to it and probably had to be dropped immediately
I think paulie took the hit out on tony either cause he wanted to wash his hands clean or to take over.
tony should have had to use both hands to block christofur's natural canopy
It's good
I do feel like season 6 is too dark at times, especially compared to earlier seasons. The humour is gone for the most part, and that's a shame. Still, I don't think I would change the way the show ended.
Nope. Wrong and dumb.
Melfi seemed like a shitty psychiatrist to me, there are a lot of times where Tony seems to be genuinely opening up and she doesn't even replies to him and then comes back with some snarky question that seems to completely ignore what he already said
I'm glad you picked up on Melfi's obvious personal conflict of abhorring everything Tony does and thinks but struggling to maintain her professionalism. You should do YouTube video essays.
wtf...
next you'll be telling me that sil isn't very nice to the bing girls
Why didn't melfi give up her pussy? she's so boring
livia carried season 1 so hard