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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Time for some brotherly love

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lets frickin goooooooo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/8P4tbAc.jpeg

      Back with a double update!

      WHAT DOES IT MEAAAAN. And look at those lush lashes on the lion. He's already bringing some fabulous energy in.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, he's Sette's twin brother. And it seems he's squishy energy incarnate

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It means big brother is here.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Basically it's the happiest memory she can muster up. The realization that at some point, someone loved her. Which summoned a very powerful squish. A squish that indeed might be the memory of the Senet beast that she descends from.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How can you be a descendant of something that can't reproduce?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We don't even know how Sette and her brother are conceived and birthed outside of the khert. I know it's outlandish, but it'll be crazy if there are specific recessive genetics in the Kasslyne human genome and every once in a while two people get (un)lucky and produce another Sette and Jacaranda. NTA but there are so many unknowns.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >recessive genetics
              The Soud are genetically immune to the Dammakhert, so it's entirely possible

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But also, Nary may have tipped us off. His wife was sick and losing the pregnancy, so he hired the blacktongues to "help" her. Then they took away Sette's brother's body. I think it's pretty clear that Tittybird planned all of this.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Via mortal surrogates who can. Such as the late Mrs. Frummegem.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe this dude is a better brother than Lemmy? Here's hoping!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sette had a memory of her brother with her all along
      Makes sense.
      Here's to hoping Sette's bro will help out and clear up much of her confusion and hurt.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder why he didn't make contact until after she conjured up that memory body. Is this some plan to have him materialize in the real world? So many questions that feel like they're about to be answered. And yet we must wait.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I reckon he had to wait until Sette discovered enough of her powers. Memory-Sara's materialization hints that Jacaranda could possibly do the same outside the khert, but there's so many possibilities and things we don't know. I can't wait until next update.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait that thing has a tail and dead bro didn't

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's her mom, or do you see a dick on that lion?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's her mom, or do you see a dick on that lion?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's the deal with Sette's mom?
        Good catch

        Wait that thing has a tail and dead bro didn't

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Did Ssael frick a lion?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nary fricked Ssael

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't have balls - which would kinda match Sette having no secondary sexual characteristics - but i can't tell from this angle if it has a dick or not. They kind of tuck inside in lions

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It doesn't have balls
          Tittybird's testicle fixation strikes again

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You telling me Ssael fricked a lion? YOU TELLING ME TITTY BIRD GOT SSAEL TO SPIRIT FRICK A LION TO MAKE WEIRDASS REINCARNATING TWINS FOR HER MASTERPLAN!? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME ANON?!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Weirdass reincarnating twins that have to be magik’d into a surrogate womb, no less.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ssael was a third option, and also a lion, who got fricked by none other than Jab Beadman himself.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You actually can see a dick sheath on the lion the other time he's shown up. Its not drawn to stand out, but it's there

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey… Brother doesn’t have a tail.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      rare instance of cute happy sette in the last panel

      aaand that's just
      what the frick is happening right now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      HOLY SHIT IT'S A LION
      GET IN THE CAR

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >:3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really like that 5th panel art.
      Assuredly trailing a thumb along path and the red screams and runs. Jagged shock.
      8th panel exudes arrival too, nice.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a bit confused at this, there's 2 lions now?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        one is a memory

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so is that uuuuuhhh
      ssael?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        It's going to be extremely funny if the lion is Ssael and Duane missed meeting his god (or a being that inspired it) by virtue of being buried in pink slime.

        Even funnier, the lion looks kinda... Feminine? Patriarchal Ssaelits would be eternally BTFO if it turns out Ssael was a girl all along.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not likely, from the way Sessine talked about him. And we know she only likes boys.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just had a allegory to her first period, now child birth? COOOOOOOOOOOOPE.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I almost want her to just take a long break so that we can get this whole scene in one shot. This pacing is frustrating.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You could take the long break anon.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We've only seen Sette manipulate red memories directly so far right?
    Is it possible that she and her brother are like yin and yang? She controls eels while he controls squishies?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Boo is all good memories and he listens to her.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        True enough. And I suppose Duane is a mixture of all kinds of memories.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Boo was her brother the entire time

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IT'S TIME FOR THE GOOD SHIT

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    JACARANDAAAAAAAAA

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We have that tree everywere in Buenos Aires. It will take some time to get used to hearing it as a fantasy name

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're in Florida too. It's cute that Ash likes the name.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Makes sense.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    guys…
    Duane Uaid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AMABO OBAMA
      ANIME IS REAL

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"I have come," said a deep voice behind them. They turned and saw the Lion himself, so bright and real and strong that everything else began at once to look pale and shadowy compared with him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Will this be Ashley subverting the Good Lion motif? Or will this lion truly be a force for some... I don't even have room to say good at this stage, but just generally less shit?

      Wait that thing has a tail and dead bro didn't

      This... gives me pause. Could be a problem. Sessine has some weird plan working in the background here, we don't know her endgame, but we do know the lion is a part of it. He met with Prakhuta, and we have no idea how that went, but the squishes didn't help there yet

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can't imagine the lion being antagonistic. This like the complete and utter nadir of the story, somehow even worse than the shrine

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it’s the squishes so how can it be bad?
          …OTOH, that monkeybird amalgam on her shoulder isn’t taking wing in panic, so pure good might be too much to hope for.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah it’s the squishes so how can it be bad?
            TBird immediateley kills it or something, I dunno. There's always an answer.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"It can't possibly go any lower", said the mistakenly hopeful Unsounded reader

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It can go lower, but I'm confident that the vibe will shift to a more positive note soon. Unsounded won't be a tragedy iirc from Cope, but even tragedies show some hope even briefly before the final downturn.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DA of the year does it again with the feel good statements

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yay more fuzzy letters!

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s got a tail so it might not be her brother. It’s got a mane so it might not be her mother. It’s got thumbs so who knows.
    I’ll throw a bet on Ssael is the Lion and her father.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      iirc lions just have thumbs in this universe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >iirc lions just have thumbs in this universe
        As far as I understand, we don't know. This is what **Sette** claims, and Duane disagrees. It is entirely possible that Sette's brother hands are unusual for Lions. Especially since they clearly "switched" some features - Sette has Lion tail and fingernails, so it would make sense for her brother to have human fingers and no tail.
        Btw. check out lions in ch17 p34 - no human hand in sight.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          These are obviously human hands

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry, I think you're right. When I've first seen this page I actually misinterpreted it and assumed they're lion paws. I don't want to be the resolutiongay of this thread but...
            Anyway point taken, lions in unsounded have human hands period.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, but they don’t have the sketch of class that the hind paws do.
          I think it’s act of author to keep it intentionally vague, they’re maybe jointed like hands but maybe not, the detail is hard to zero in on.
          But mainly they don’t look like the hind paws.

          Same intentional vagueness that’s hidden that Sette’s brother doesn’t have a tail I think, cards close to chest, enough to see it in hindsight but no giveaways.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >*sketch of claws

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Man I still love shit like this
            >character casually mentions some incredibly important bit of lore no one knows about any more
            >"what was that?"
            >they just move on

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Btw. check out lions in ch17 p34 - no human hand in sight.
          Are you blind? Those are human hands.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, but they don’t have the sketch of class that the hind paws do.
          I think it’s act of author to keep it intentionally vague, they’re maybe jointed like hands but maybe not, the detail is hard to zero in on.
          But mainly they don’t look like the hind paws.

          Same intentional vagueness that’s hidden that Sette’s brother doesn’t have a tail I think, cards close to chest, enough to see it in hindsight but no giveaways.

          Note that in the flashback panel, the clearly shown human children have their hands bound behind their backs, while the lion cubs don't. The unbound hands reaching out of the blood, therefore, likely belong to the lions. Additionally, the screaming lion cub, outstretched hand, and tail in the middle distance of the panel are all positioned such that they likely belong to the same individual. Lions got hands.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Option J, it’s all the good from prior Settes’ - grown up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s got thumbs
      That's normal.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >And the story continues. Two pages today, keep clicking forward!
    Website comment
    > Two pages today, I busted butt to get one extra page done last week, so I thought I'd share it with all my besties.
    >A momentous visitor! Sette doesn't really remember her stillborn, dead twin brother... of course she doesn't, she was only a newborn herself for that brief time they were together. But she knows all a person's memories are inside them, somewhere. So she pulled him into her ugly hands in a desperate bid for comfort.
    >But then...!
    Patreon comment

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly have no idea where any of this is going anymore.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OK so Lionmom appears to be a Khert creature like squishes or mega-eels or any of the random background ones, formed from congealed memories into a natural construct. Is she an amalgamation of a bunch of memories from different people, or was she (at least originally) a complete soul-ghost like Duane? Lions were probably like Inak in that they didn't have "souls" like humans, but what if they did, or if she gained one like Cutter has? Is she the source of all of Sette's oddities, or just her ability to command ghosts?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait another idea: it's not her mom, but a congealment of each Sette incarnation's memories of her brother, who maybe doesn't/didn't die immediately in every iteration.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    LET'S. FRICKING. GOOOOOOOO. Go save your zombie.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would she save him? She's the one that murdered him

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just caught up after a break and feel like I've lost plot a little. Am I right in the assumption that recent pages show that Sette is interested in Duane romantically? I mean, it's been something of a theme that Sette is older than she looks (and is miffed from lack of curves) but so far there was REALLY no indication of that kind of interest from her. Well, aside from how daddy issues tend to express themselves in young women.

    Also, why Duane suddenly afraid of Sette? I mean even before she went full ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL. He seemed to realize something with his "anteit vaosa" exclamation but I don't follow.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Duane realized that she can control him like a sock puppet to do whatever she wants, and had a breakdown because now literally everything he's done as part of the story is suspect.
      He has no way to know if any of the things he's chosen to do or the emotional moments he'd had were real or if they were just sette hitting him with a jimmy neutron brainblast.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Am I right in the assumption that recent pages show that Sette is interested in Duane romantically?

      I do think Duane and Sette are romantically interested in each other, and I don't really think it comes from no where. Sette wants Duane but not as a 'Da and Duane thinks of her as this amazing unknown with perfect green eyes.

      Duane is a hopeless romantic so someone like Sette he couldn't say no too. Sette is obviously never going to leave him and wants him all to herself. It all just comes full circle.

      >I do think Duane and Sette are romantically interested in each other
      I disagree. I think it is love, but I doubt it's romantic. It's hard to describe, but I think it's not for nothing one is a zombie and the other some kind of weird ever girl with weird parts. Cope too seems the type to make main characters with a powerful emotional connection that's not really some kind of obvious romantic setup.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, I agree that it's DIFFERENT, that's for sure. I think people, when they hear of a romantic relationship, they think of a sexual one and lots of kissing. That's not really what I'm suggestion. I'm saying more of a "Me and you, forever" type of deal. Along with a strict rule of "no sharing".

        For Duane Sette is "The Impossible Girl". It's a rule for himself that he can't have her. For several, obvious reasons. Still madly in love with her though - so much it hurts I think.

        Sette just wants Duane forever and all that other stuff is the last thing on her mind.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, ya, it's not some straight up "they're dad and daughter surrogates," but I think putting it down to romantic love is wrong too. People get pretty weird about their family and friends sometimes too.

          I think it's more that it's fairly unique, especially because of the odd lives of the two involved. Duane has a lot of hangups about his daughter, and Sette about her dad, that predefined their initial interactions. They've sort of moved beyond that in this scene, but I don't think we've moved into the realm of "oh it's weird romance now." Just very emotionally interwoven "friends." Like, just genuinely two people who now have very raw, very exposed emotional nerves with each other in away most people simply never open themselves up to.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's basically Frodo and Sam

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well - sure. Although Duane never thought of Sette as a knock-off Mikaila. Honestly I think we just we just have a different version of romance.

            What else do you call it when one person wants to be with someone forever, while the other wants to always keep her safe? Being a Dad would be -easy - for Duane - and if that's all she was asking of him I don't think it'd be an issue.

            This is something more.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Her fantasy cigarette smoke makes a little heart
        Yo that's adorable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The girl is asexual according to Word of God. (But not aromantic perhaps?) I read it more of an "epic" love like King Arthur loved Merlin. Maybe not a perfect 1:1 but it's the first thing I thought of.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The girl is asexual according to Word of God. (But not aromantic perhaps?)
        I don't think Ashley really splits hairs on that stuff, Sette just has no sexual or romantic interests.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think Sette is asexual because Ash doesn't want to deal with the implications of a 20+ year old with a body of a child and a normal sex drive.
          Even though she's technically legal, Sette sex would creep many people out. Making her asexual solves this problem, and doesn't interfere with the story in any other way

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ash doesn't want to deal with the implications of a 20+ year old with a body of a child and a normal sex drive
            I think Ash is just like that. She's told us several times it's not squeamishness that prevents some of the stuff that hasn't happened. I don't think she wrote up a character like Sette and then went "oh ew this might be kinda icky better avoid it."

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have no idea why Ash wrote Sette as asexual, but in physical terms being stuck in a prepubescent body with no secondary sexual organs inside to kick off puberty and sexual pleasure likely contributes to the asexuality.
            Her sexuality is such an insignificant part of her personality though. She has many other important/interesting things going on.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not a huge mystery why an author who considers herself asexual would write a character like that into her story.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I thought it was just part of the fact that she didn't mature mentally either. Her being a glorified midget would probably not be that bad compared to being an eternal child.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ash got a lot of heat back in the day. People called her pedo and everything. It was fricked up. She never outright denied Sette has romantic feelings for Duane either. Other than she's asexual. Which is smart to get people to shut up about it. She would have been told people no she does not romantic feelings for Duane. All we got right now is. Love is love. Which is fine. Their relationship is just complicated. Can't define it to just being friends. Or her father figure. Which she denies Duane isn't. Or her having romantic feelings for him. Feels like it's a mix of everything.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you're an idiot. she was saying sette was asexual to emphasize that her love for duane is real and serious but it will never be romantic or sexual. you people can't see love between two opposite sex people without poisoning it, can you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >having romantic or sexual interest poisons your love
                holy frick
                i knew zoomers had brainrot but this really puts it in perspective
                we're so fricking doomed as a species, good riddance

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >zoomers
                Anon, that line of thinking existed as far back as ancient Greece, if not further.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Honestly, yeah. The amount of shit talking people get for the Duane x Sette ship is unreal. Love is love and they love each other, the heck else do you want? I feel bad for the author if she was getting called a pedo. Find it hard to believe honestly.

              you're an idiot. she was saying sette was asexual to emphasize that her love for duane is real and serious but it will never be romantic or sexual. you people can't see love between two opposite sex people without poisoning it, can you

              I'm pretty sure that comment was a half serious joke about Sette being biologically asexual and actually a goddess. I have no idea what you mean by that poisoning line.

              you're not right in that assumption, and Duane is suddenly afraid because he realized that Sette's been controlling him in a way that he hadn't realized or examined (including without orders, like how Duane knew to give back the beadman amulet)

              It's going to turn out to be way more complex then simple mind control. I think it's going to be very "Duane was never bade to do something he did not already want to do" sorta deal.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > I read it more of an "epic" love like King Arthur loved Merlin
        Elaborate. I don't recall Arthur showing Merlin nearly as much emotion as Setter had in her mutilated pinky declaring her love for zombie.

        >The girl is asexual according to Word of God. (But not aromantic perhaps?)
        I don't think Ashley really splits hairs on that stuff, Sette just has no sexual or romantic interests.

        > Sette just has no sexual or romantic interests
        Anon, I love my dad, but I don't EVER see myself acting like Sette did.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't EVER see myself acting like Sette did.
          You probably didn't spend your entire life up until this point being beaten and gaslit by your gang leader father and believing you're a semi-human freakazoid.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Anon, I love my dad, but I don't EVER see myself acting like Sette did.
          Sette is not a normal person with a healthy relationship with her dad. I hope you don't ever see yourself acting like Sette.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Truthfully I dunno how accurate this movie is to anything but it seems like other media since then has them in a special magical mentorship bromance situation, or something.

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sette is 1.) asexual (per Cope) 2.) Starved of non-conditional affection. Hence her rather strong response to Duane admitting he loves her as more than just a replacement daughter. Not all powerful love is romantic or erotic love.

      Duane flees in terror because the other shoe has dropped and he has realized that Sette has the power to control him. He's panicking in fear of this (he's seen the grotesque effects of the Etalarche curse), and from the existential terror of wondering how much if any of him is "real" after all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're not right in that assumption, and Duane is suddenly afraid because he realized that Sette's been controlling him in a way that he hadn't realized or examined (including without orders, like how Duane knew to give back the beadman amulet)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Duane being sassy is always best when he's embarrassed.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        duane was always inferring that sette might have feelings for him. i think he was just projecting. but that does make you wonder about what he feels, and the nature of his attraction to sette, and whether or not sette chose the nature of his attraction to her, albeit subconsciously, considering he controls him.
        this is a deep and confusing and dirty rabbit hole.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >considering she controls him.*

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I dunno if projecting, but definitely deflecting. Duane's infidelity with Sessine seems to be a moral chafing point for him. And we've seen that Duane isn't one to brag or to talk about his sexual conquests, anyway, during his time in the army where Lemuel uses it to tug his scrote.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do think Duane and Sette are romantically interested in each other, and I don't really think it comes from no where. Sette wants Duane but not as a 'Da and Duane thinks of her as this amazing unknown with perfect green eyes.

    Duane is a hopeless romantic so someone like Sette he couldn't say no too. Sette is obviously never going to leave him and wants him all to herself. It all just comes full circle.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean there are too much raw powerful emotions from Sette this last 10 pages for me to take it as a familial affection but since when is Duane a childlover? And I don't mean in a sense that Sette is a child - she might very well not be - but so fat I haven't seen any indication he saw her as anything but a surrogate daughter. She might not be Mikaila but she's not Leysa either. At least I haven't seen otherwise.

      Duane realized that she can control him like a sock puppet to do whatever she wants, and had a breakdown because now literally everything he's done as part of the story is suspect.
      He has no way to know if any of the things he's chosen to do or the emotional moments he'd had were real or if they were just sette hitting him with a jimmy neutron brainblast.

      > breakdown because now literally everything he's done as part of the story is suspect
      I kinda don't get that vibe, man. He reacted like Sette's suddenly Sessine in disguise or something. He doesn't suspect he suddenly KNOWS something. Doesn't look like "are my actions my own?" and more like "the killer has been you all along!" if you get me.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll just quote the author about this
        >This is when he gets all of it, right here. All of it.
        She’s always been in charge, but hasn’t known it. Now he’s just told her, by revealing the amulet is trash. And now she knows. Shit. A hundred other questions spring to his mind waiting to be asked, but existential terror always trumps all.

        And also:
        >Just terror. He’s terrified. The flash of thought that made him call Sessine was her saying he had to be the man he’d always been, and him realising that led directly to THIS. Why does she want this? What’s that fricking crow going to do with this poor and twisted little girl?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ya'll realize that romantic love doesn't have to be sexual, right? Duane and Sette love each other but they're not going to start fricking. Sette has a business to manage.

          I wish I knew where to find this stuff.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day. I mean it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        come on anon, you know you're going to do it first.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I seriously wonder what went wrong in someone's life where they'd read anything about Duane and Sette's relationship as romantic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know how people can read the way they treat each other and think it's a healthy father/daughter relationship. Or anything of the sort, to be honest. It's always come across as something wayyy different to me.

      I have no idea why Ash wrote Sette as asexual, but in physical terms being stuck in a prepubescent body with no secondary sexual organs inside to kick off puberty and sexual pleasure likely contributes to the asexuality.
      Her sexuality is such an insignificant part of her personality though. She has many other important/interesting things going on.

      Sette is BIOLOGICALLY asexual too. She literally does not have sex parts, and is a goddess. This does nothing to change her love for Duane.

      Duane is a bawd though so not sure how they can reconcile that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Duane is a bawd though so not sure how they can reconcile that.
        He doesn't have no penis anymore, anon. When tittybird with her weird sex magic is out of the equation Duane's back in his chastity cage. Unless he purchases some dick pymaric but I don't think he's THAT much of a bawd.

        Also, it must be out of his budged. If eyes are ultra expensive black tongue custom job, then how much a functional soul connected dick would cost? Bastion just solved mortality and while undead sex is definitely on the agenda (bawd boy ain't gonna go celibate in his eternal life) he has other thinks occupying his time.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah Anon, Duane can't do normal sex anymore. Most you got is like, super erotic touching and pymaric orgasms. He's basically the ultimate sex toy if you're not into penetration.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > He's basically the ultimate sex toy if you're not into penetration
            HE
            IS
            ROTTING!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well, no ones perfect. Just imagine the feeling of a feather, a hand stroking, a warm cuddle. Pretty sure if you can smash heads with the aspect of weight from a rock, you can share other things too.

              Point is, Duane is awesome in bed I bet.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sette is BIOLOGICALLY asexual too. She literally does not have sex parts, and is a goddess.
        She does not have nipples and navel, the rest is speculation. Word of god never confirmed this, and there are some answers that suggest that she does, if fact, have a pussy and a butthole.
        I remember one q&a answer where someone asked about that and Ash answered "that would be weird" IIRC, there's also pic related (nipples are a problem, but not the other body parts)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ... but I'll just clarify that it doesn't matter at all, since she's asexual.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you are trying too hard to push your shitty rainbow flag in the thread. Go project somewhere else.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I meant more the reproductive parts to be honest. Wasn't really thinking about... yeah, cus how else would she pee and poop? This is honestly more thought then I put into it.

          Point is, she's not having kids and doesn't have all the parts.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon do you think that women have a cloaca or something? Her missing reproductive organs would just mean she doesn't have a vegana. There's no reason the rest wouldn't be there.

            Fair, we agree in this case. I wanted to clarify since I'm one of the previous threads one of the anons was autistically arguing that Sette just magically absorbs all nutrients she eat, and looks like a barbie doll down there.
            She has no reproducible organs (and no navel because she was born differently), but otherwise is a feature complete human with a tail.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon do you think that women have a cloaca or something? Her missing reproductive organs would just mean she doesn't have a vegana. There's no reason the rest wouldn't be there.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know how women work - don't you need a vegana for stuff? I imagine there is no womb but... maybe? It might just be all barbie down there for all we know.

            Doesn't matter though, she's still the perfect girl.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The vegana is just the canal where babies come from. The pubic mound, labia, urethra, etc. could all be there while not having a vegana. Shockingly you don't pee out of the same hole you stick your peepee in.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                man the only thing I know about them is how to make girls feel good by doing things to them. It really doesn't matter - Sette and Duane's love transcends all such things.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Picrel is going to be you and your future wife

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this can't be real. is this real? i'm naive as frick but even i couldn't mess it up that bad like wtf.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The story itself is fairly old, and the patient is already 70 in the story. So the patient is most assuredly from an age where sexual education was non-existent. It reminds me of another story I heard, purportedly from Germany, about a couple visiting a doctor because they had been trying to have kids and couldn't conceive. I don't recall the details, but by the end the doctor figured out that the problem was that they simply had no idea how to have sex.

                Could it be fake? Yes. But could it also have happened just this once? Probably also yes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                obvious fake.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, right? There is just no way. Things wouldn't fit like wth.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Sette has no usual place to stick peepee in
                >Inserting things into your urethra is called "sounding"
                >The webcomic is called "unsounded"
                HMMM

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty sure the only parts Cope has confirmed (in text or on page) that Sette doesn't have are nipples, a navel, and a uterus. Her exchange with Starfish does seem to imply that it might go farther than that, though.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >no navel
          …but she was born in the normal way?
          This is actually more interesting than the child-loving shitposting the thread’s devolved to, the black tongues kinda didn’t even need a functioning womb/placenta to implant this chimera in?
          Wait, even eggborn have attachment to the yolk sac right?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I meant more the reproductive parts to be honest. Wasn't really thinking about... yeah, cus how else would she pee and poop? This is honestly more thought then I put into it.

          Point is, she's not having kids and doesn't have all the parts.

          Anon do you think that women have a cloaca or something? Her missing reproductive organs would just mean she doesn't have a vegana. There's no reason the rest wouldn't be there.

          I don't know how women work - don't you need a vegana for stuff? I imagine there is no womb but... maybe? It might just be all barbie down there for all we know.

          Doesn't matter though, she's still the perfect girl.

          [...]
          Fair, we agree in this case. I wanted to clarify since I'm one of the previous threads one of the anons was autistically arguing that Sette just magically absorbs all nutrients she eat, and looks like a barbie doll down there.
          She has no reproducible organs (and no navel because she was born differently), but otherwise is a feature complete human with a tail.

          There's a picture, over on Ashley's tumblr, of Sette as a naked toddler. She definitely has a gash.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon...

            The vegana is just the canal where babies come from. The pubic mound, labia, urethra, etc. could all be there while not having a vegana. Shockingly you don't pee out of the same hole you stick your peepee in.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well sure, I didn't say she has any baby-making bits behind it. Just pointing out, for the people speculating, that we do have an actual visual example of what she looks like down there.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where do you think you are?

      Seriously though, we are dealing with deep shit here. Boiling cauldron of suffering, abuse, resentment, pain, need, mutual hurt, mutual HURTING, lies. Add Sette's declaration that she doesn't need Duane as a Da, and Duane's touching her cheek while having vision of a blond with puckered lips... I'd say it all needs close examination.

      It just doesn't feel filial anymore. You don't see such powerful connection portrayed everyday, so that begs the question what exactly are we seeing here.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stay away from schools, thank you very much

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Stay away from schools, thank you very much
          b***h I am literally posting this from school.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If people want to write pedo fanfic about them they should do that instead of pretending that's what the story is presenting.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > instead of pretending that's what the story is presenting
          And what pray tell the story is presenting? Healthy father-daughter relationship?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A really fricked up deep platonic bond between two people with a number of issues who have lived some of the worst days of their lives together?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ok, fair. But just what is platonic in this interpretation? If you mean "no sex" then in wasn't on the menu either way with one being undead and the other homunculus.

              Yet looking past the nature of the bond we observe connection of such power and depth that it wouldn't be incorrect to call it "spiritual marriage". I mean Sette wants Duane for herself forever. She also established that she doesn't want him as a father. There is only so much interpretation of those parameters.

              I mean look past the horny fools who can't think past the "e-girl wants zombie daddy's dick", exclude all notion of sexuality. Look at it through a more classical - chistian-hellenistic - lens. When a person want another person for an indefinite amount of time with the exclusion of other connections approaching the same level... Again it is difficult to call anything other than the MOST powerful form of love - it's either romantic or MORE POWERFULL that romance. Usually it's question of a degree not kind.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Duane + Mikaila = Storge (familial love)
                Duane + Leysa = Eros (romantic love)
                Duane + Sette = Philia (platonic love)
                Duane + Ssael = Agape (divine/unconditional love)
                Duane + Duane = Philautia (self-love)

                Here anons, I've cleared this out for you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not sure how you can call it platonic with all the talk of her perfect green eyes, his impossible love for her, how he never saw her as a fill in for his daughter...

                Same with Sette wanting to be with Duane forever.

                But maybe! We'll see. Hoping it's romantic though, forbidden love is awesome. Also Sette is damn tired of people treating her like a kid. Or Duane thinking she just wants him as a 'Da.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Duane
                Self-love

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmao at this bullshit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Congrats, you saw through my shitpost

                Not sure how you can call it platonic with all the talk of her perfect green eyes, his impossible love for her, how he never saw her as a fill in for his daughter...

                Same with Sette wanting to be with Duane forever.

                But maybe! We'll see. Hoping it's romantic though, forbidden love is awesome. Also Sette is damn tired of people treating her like a kid. Or Duane thinking she just wants him as a 'Da.

                Don't take my post too seriously, but actually I don't think it's too far from what the Greeks understood as "platonic". It's about lack of carnal attraction and being attracted to "soul", without a sexual desire.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                much obliged

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Duane Adelier does NOT love himself, at least since he died.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think this should be learned in schools, after reading all these posts. Lots of teens and 20something that get confused.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah I kill my platonic friends out of rage too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think Sette killed Duane on purpose.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you think Sette killed Duane you are very, very dumb.

                Some people think all love out of the family has to be sexual. I blame shipping culture.

                I think this should be learned in schools, after reading all these posts. Lots of teens and 20something that get confused.

                You people are going to hang yourselves when the best ship wins, aren't ya? Duane X Sette is gonna be canon, mark my words.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, they can end up together, as friends / comadres.
                Again, shipping shit make people blind.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Being against ships does just about the same thing, tbh. Let them be forever friends though, that's also fine. I see this as being more then just friends though.

                It sure as shit ain't a father/daughter mechanic anymore. If it ever was.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That' for sure. Father and lover are not the only relationship options.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, I can see it being that. Forever friends. Sette and her attack zombie friend.

                I'm just saying - if it does do a romantic thing with Sette and Duane I called it and think it's fricking awesome. It's the best ship. I just don't see the dialog matching up with "Well we're just besties" but hey.

                I just don't want Duane to be an adoptive Dad. Tumbler has a huge fetish for that kinda stuff and I hate it. so gross.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, people kill their friends, platonic friends, lovers, family members out of uncontrollable rage occasionally (and regret that later). Are you dumb?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that’s literally a thing that happens in real life.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some people think all love out of the family has to be sexual. I blame shipping culture.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw I realize the anons who were pushing Duane x Sette weren't being ironic

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is only one Sette Frummagem after all. Also Duane x Sette is the best ship ever. Anon's are just upset her wants Duane and not them.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it’s firming up that the “her cage” the ghosts were so scared of, the “her” referred to wasn’t Ilganyang.
    It’s going to be a double bamboozle isn’t it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      O shit, that is a girly looking lion eye. Between the color scheme and flowers in the hair, is this a Yerta analogue? Not lookin fat though.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    where's the lion that already showed up in the khert with Ilganyag, im not searching for that shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You’re in luck, I just reread the last 2 chapters to try and make sense of where we are, was 17_107
      >captcha: RAAK
      Shut up breastsbird nobody asked for your opinion

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, that Lion DOES have a dick.

        CAPTCHA: PPXL

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's going to be extremely funny if the lion is Ssael and Duane missed meeting his god (or a being that inspired it) by virtue of being buried in pink slime.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > going to be extremely funny if the lion is Ssael
          If we are theorycrafting what if Jacaranda was Ssael? Like it was supposed to be a regular reincarnation - dead mom, abusive dad, cupboard under the stairs, the works. Something went wrong and Sette died first. Bro got mad and went on a crusade against the unjust world.
          I mean, if we believe Nary's story about Jacaranda loving his sister so much he willingly dies so she can live. I can see someone going off the deep end in those circumstances.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Btw. anons I think we're finally going to meet the object of the icon on Unsounded Q&A (pic rel).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have we ever seen those flowers before?
      I feel like they’re not insignificant.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are they not softi?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah softi is blue

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Softi are blue.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are they not softi?

        They're Jacaranda flowers.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ...oh. Pretty obvious in hindsight. Link for other anons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacaranda

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well that blows up the Ssael/mom theories I think.
          Bro just has some fabulous eyes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well… Actually it still doesn’t quite resolve how in this page her infant brother doesn’t have a tail and in the chapter cover the tail area is strategically whited out, meaning likely no tail either.
            Is it shenanigans where lion is so godly that whenever born into the world has to take a twin aspect, distribute attributes?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can only see Starfish

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The last time we saw Prakhuta it looked like Sette's brother was coming through the portal right? But that was like actually months of real time ago. That and the physical differences certainly must mean this lion is different. It always seemed too like Sette's brother was to lions what she was to humans. Feminine eyelashes aside, is Ssael a frickin lion?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      given what we know of lions it's not technically impossible that ssael was one, although the complete lack of suggestion of this in the historical record from a guy who was an extremely prominent and important figure seems really weird
      it's also possible that ssael was a human and the whole "not coming apart on entering the khert" thing means his memories largely chose to hang out with one another somehow (or were made to hang out with one another through intervention), coalescing as a bigass lion because of his love for the animal that ate him alive (?????)
      it's also possible this (these?) squish lion(s) are some other weirder, third thing and none of these ramblings make any sense

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > although the complete lack of suggestion of this in the historical record from a guy who was an extremely prominent and important figure seems really weird
        As is the fact that the fat woman was apparently a salt reptile with eyes inside her maw. Or that the red woman was a crow-centaur. Or that lions were spiderpaws, could talk, participated in religious communion
        and could have a strong technological base for all we know. They really suck at record keeping.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          facts from prehistory being forgotten or warped is pretty inevitable.
          the fact of the species of an extremely important historical figure (that wrote a ton of stuff) being forgotten is quite a bit weirder. you'd figure somebody would've mentioned it unless the only people writing anything back then were lions.

          >Or that lions were spiderpaws, could talk, participated in religious communion
          yeah, this is weird too

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > the fact of the species of an extremely important historical figure (that wrote a ton of stuff) being forgotten is quite a bit weirder.
            Honestly could be aldish frickery. Like cresce and shartsheine couldn't give a frick what Ssail was but dammkhert shenanigans could genuinely make people forget that their glorious golden god was a big cat. Except souds but no one listens to pissmops.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Prehistory is defined as being before the invention of writing.

            So this wasn't prehistory.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      given what we know of lions it's not technically impossible that ssael was one, although the complete lack of suggestion of this in the historical record from a guy who was an extremely prominent and important figure seems really weird
      it's also possible that ssael was a human and the whole "not coming apart on entering the khert" thing means his memories largely chose to hang out with one another somehow (or were made to hang out with one another through intervention), coalescing as a bigass lion because of his love for the animal that ate him alive (?????)
      it's also possible this (these?) squish lion(s) are some other weirder, third thing and none of these ramblings make any sense

      so is that uuuuuhhh
      ssael?

      I guess everything is possible but you'd think the father of martial pymary would at least be capable of casting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ssael was human, he was a prominent historical figure, well-documented as a Tainish man. The only reason we have to doubt it at all are those old Inak murals, but we don't have enough info to say how literal vs metaphorical some of them were. But would it be possible for centuries worth of Ssaelit memories of worship and imagination of him to coalesce into this lion?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not that I actually buy the ssael as a lion thing, but what makes you think lions weren't capable of casting? we already know there's a way for people to cast that doesn't involve their human vocal cords.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And people were mocking the 'first period' reading. Now she's giving birth to her own older brother.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ssael quite clearly fricked a lion and these (sette and her brother) are his children

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Throw me to the lions and I'll come back a father

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      which part of that explains the memory-frickery bone hands or the ghost affinity or the being born in a sharteshanian lady or the hair bird

      Prehistory is defined as being before the invention of writing.

      So this wasn't prehistory.

      yes, I was referring to the worship of the senets, which probably does predate the written word given tittybird talking about witnessing evolution

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This seems like a rare moment of actual, unalloyed kindness from Nary.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s kinda cool how we’re so used to Sette’s memories having the bad realities behind them all crossed out that the stark black margins of this one stands out so much.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By all accounts Nary did love her early he's just a cutthroat criminal and he grew more jaded as he realized she won't age and probably will get even weirder.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most people seem to agree Nary loves Sette - after his fashion - but his love is often abusive, conditional, characterized by tests. We don't see it often in him to say or do something nice that doesn't have a hook or a thorn in it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >born with a caul
        Children born with a caul are special. There's an old wives' tale about this. Still you can see that there is no umbilical cord. No wonder Jacaranda keeps dying. lol those Black Tongues went full reverse Beastmaster. I think that's the movie where the witch steals a woman's full term fetus and impregnates a cow with it causing that cow to birth a human child.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nary's another gray character in this very gray cast. No one in the whole story is Evil or Good all the time. They shift around like real people. So yeah, even Nary the fricker is sometimes in a good mood and says kind things.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone has a link to archived thread with Sette saying she loves Duane? I can find the one before and after but that one.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just had a random thought for a funny plot twist (Ashley don't steal!)

    What if lions did also have souls, like humans, and that if reincarnation actually happens, their souls are no different and part of the same reincarnation cycle. What if being a lion from time to time was actually necessary, and by driving them to extinction, humans fricked up the system somehow (Although it is thought that reincarnation is not bound by temporal concerns).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I see your game, glass

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If the system is trying to fill the lion vacuum, why make the lions sterile?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        carlos please!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not saying that's what's actually going on in the comic. Just a fun idea I had.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guys she shoved literal memories into the fricker, why do people think Duane is dead or that Sette killed him? Some important stuff might spill out but he's obviously not dead.

    I would be shocked, shocked I say if he were. I think you people just can't read or something.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well yeah, they think Duane x Sette is a thing, of course they can't read.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The way incels react to this ship is funny as hell to me. Gonna be so great when it actually sets sail. Duane X Sette is just too good. Forbidden love~

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >his eyes getting dark and black
      >him sinking into eels
      >"i've killed the one I loved, I've heard the final lie"
      >in-character: Sette crying desperately and reaching a new low
      >OOC: a short prose published by Ash on tumblr using phrases like "he belonged to them now, forever" or "lie flush with his dead clay chest" to describe Duane.
      I don't think Duane is dead forever (because he still has much to do plotwise), but the artist is CLEARLY trying to show that something serious is going on. Something more than "showing literal memories".
      TLDR you are the one who can't read.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's pretty clear to me that the memories are so dark and horrid (you know, cus of what the cloak represents and the memories it's linked to) and thus this is sending Duane even deeper into a pit of despair.

        He's going to discover that his own brother was responsible for his death I'm pretty sure.

        But maybe Duane is gone, sure. I don't think so though - doesn't seem like that's what this is showing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sette thinks she killed him at least, but it's all dramatic imo, this will be literally his lowest point.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, He'll probably is going to finally sound the unsounded, lol.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But... Duane isn't dead. Sette just shoved memories into him. We don't know what's going on right now. She sure as hell didn't try to murder him.

    Also, his love for her is impossible and she was never a charity case Mikaila <3

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So did you people play TLOU and ship Joel and Ellie or what

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TLOU is shit and also no. Although, did Joel ever go on about how Ellie has perfect green eyes and isn't just like a daughter to him? i feel like that wasn't a thing and that their relationship actually felt like one between a father and his 'adoptive' daughter. i could be wrong though. maybe you thought it was hyper sexual, like the weirdo you are.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was asking ironically anon.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          then yes.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What happened with the winged eel thing that was in sette's hair?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's still there, even in the very last panel.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        neat. I wonder if it means anything that it's gone after the first panel in 92 but returns in 93.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I wonder if it means anything
          It’s means she’s a one-winged angle grinder.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So far the Khert has been keyed specifically to human souls or some aspect within us that meshes properly with it. If lions had as much impact on proto history of Kasslyne as I think they did tho, we may find that they were able to cast, and might’ve even been something akin to the progenitors of the khert and wrights. For some reason the Gefendur killed them all, partially to stop the spread of Ssaelism apparently but I feel there was more to it than that

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