Here is a condensation of my opinions on all VS battle debates.
All written fiction is literally nonsensical, the guy who will win is the one the writer decided will win, you trying to deduce some power levels from this is basically moronic. We have inconsistent power levels. New abilities ass pulled etc etc etc.
However game mechanics in games are the opposite they are always consistent. The only thing used should be game VS game with exceptions who are difficult or impossible to have unified into one system.
If you ignore this you end up with FTL nonsense debates where every character can do FTL and every hit is a million nukes.
With this out of the way a commentary on the most ridiculous death battle of all times Halo VS DOOM.
That battle is so one sided it is not even funny.
Doom guy
>Can take rockets to the face
MC
>Dies from 1 rocket
Doom guy
>[unstated] however he can survive a crusher for a long time.
MC
>Dies when someone whacks him on the back of his head
DG
>Insane running speed
MC
>Can not run
DG
>[unstated] however can hold a minimum of 7 guns.
MC
>Only 2 guns max
I mean it is cool if you find halo more engaging or fun. Or that the lower power levels (DOOM turns into rocket and BFG spam central) are more fun to play.
The same way you can find the game play of DBZ Xenoverse unengaging while Rainbow 6 is more your thing.
And this is OK. However if you start saying that 1 Rainbow 6 character can take out someone from Xenoverse then you are wrong. I mean the Xenoverse characters can take and throw cars I'm pretty sure this will kill a Rainbow 6 character in one hit. And the DC characters take cars thrown to the face like it is nothing and have insane AOI abilities that end normies.
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>What if the game mechanics were ignored instead for
No literally the only way to do a VS is games VS games. Sometimes you have problems combining 2 game mechanics together however we can manage.
It can only be game VS game.
>for the lore
This is simply invalid. I mean writers are shit and the characters self contradict, have inconsistent abilities or will pull abilities from their asses.
Writers are shit even the same writers and all written fiction will disregard or be shit.
Meanwhile
GAMES:
>Must have a forced physics that is 100% of the time obeyed. There is no way for this to go wrong (excluding cut scene bullshit; because writers are cancer)
Non-games
>inconsistent everything, unexplainable behaviors.
GAMES:
>We know 100% of the abilities of 1 character they are listed and known
Non-games
>Characters can ass pull new abilities out of their ass and bullshit they always did have it.
GAMES:
>We know exactly what kills a character. We know exactly what will kill him
Non-games:
>Who the frick knows
>aWSchually this will not kill him because this wall of text on this McDonald's toy released in 1995 only in Turkmenistan did say ....
>Awchually we never did see batman/superman die from this so it is not safe to say this will kill him
GAMES:
>Known canon
Non-games:
>Ever expanding impossible to know canon
> muh wall of text on this McDonald's toy released in 1995 only in Turkmenistan
GAMES:
>Experimental, you can experiment what can combo or work in the game mechanics
Non-games:
>You can only try to interpret the impossible and self contradictory nonsense the writers made up.
We can literally make a VS game where we implement 100% of the abilities MC has VS doom guy. We can literally have this death battle !
>Would your arguments still hold up?
I refuse to debate this, the guy who wins will be is the one the writer wants to win. Always was like this.
Also the VS is 1 specific game VS another so DOOM II VS Halo 1 CE.
Arguably the worst DB example.
Everyone gets FTL.
Flash was mind controlled
Silver age feats are no longer canon
What about
???
Why is OP using out of context pics to make a point?
The TXT is more important.
>Flash was mind controlled
Still proves my point
>Oh look at this
Some issues later
>No this does not count because bla bla bla
>All written fiction is literally nonsensical, the guy who will win is the one the writer decided will win,
As long as you can give a valid excuse sure, otherwise it is bad writting, a fox is not supposed to slaughter a bear, an ant is not supposed to kill an eagle just because the writer said so without a logic explanation
>kill an eagle just because the writer said so without a logic explanation
I agree.
However these VS battles will take everything to boost their side.
This is the problem with these VS battles.
> it is bad writting
Notice that this is impossible in video games.
A boss must have a HP and something logical.
Why don't you post about an FPS protagonist who's actually tough OP?
Like ?
> FPS protagonist who's actually tough OP?
Maxed out borderlands characters ?
>video game characters are consistent
>a video game character can send an asteroid flying through multiple planets with his strength
>also can die from apples falling on his head
OP is a homosexual
>>a video game character can send an asteroid flying through multiple planets with his strength
>>also can die from apples falling on his head
Show that in a game.
Also I did say that some games will be excluded.
>muh cartoon
Not a video game.
Observe
And Whispy Woods is a recurring boss in the series and his main attack is literally dropping apples on Kirby
https://kirby.fandom.com/wiki/Whispy_Woods
>Also I did say that some games will be excluded.
backtracking off-the bat because you know this method is moronic and makes as much sense as comic powerscaling
>Observe
nice.
I quote myself
>Also I did say that some games will be excluded.
>cope
You can find such contradictions in basically every fricking video game. Kratos can lift Kronos' giant-ass hand but struggles opening regular chests. Bayonetta can punch with megatons worth of force and can also die in-game from failing a QTE involving falling debris. Game characters are as inconsistent as everything else.
>You can find such contradictions in basically every fricking video game
Nope sorry. You are coping.
>Kratos can lift Kronos' giant-ass hand but struggles opening regular chests.
Not in combat, every attack is calculated on specific damage etc. This is the point.
The speed and strength of an attack is fixed and measurable.
PS: Bonus points for bringing up valid criticisms.
>Nope sorry. You are coping.
Literally any game where you can tank a bullet or get hit by a car but die from getting punched by randoms. I can pull of these inconsistencies from everywhere. Game mechanics are shit and aren't made with internal consistency in mind.
>Game mechanics are shit and aren't made with internal consistency in mind.
They literally are.
Because otherwise no game is possible every unit every attack must trigger a specific logical event.
You clearly have no idea how games work or how video games are programed. It is literally impossible for one action to be undetermined.
You are coping.
>Literally any game where you can tank a bullet or get hit by a car but die from getting punched by randoms.
This is real world VS game logic.
The game itself is consistent because this is how games work.
>Literally any game where you can tank a bullet or get hit by a car but die from getting punched by randoms.
Like name these games ?
>backtracking off-the bat
NOPE.
Try the same for UT 2004 VS DOOM II.
>you know this method is moronic and makes as much sense as comic powerscaling
I mean the game is consistent how that one thing works only how do you translate this to other games to create a unified battle ?
In contrast Kirby in super smash is consistent and can be translated to all kinds of other games.
And like I was saying Only 1 game not some Amalgam of games.
>And like I was saying Only 1 game not some Amalgam of games.
Whispy Woods is a boss in literally the same game as the asteroid mini-game. And he can kill you with apples.
>Whispy Woods is a boss in literally the same gam
Irrelevant.
I'm not familiar with whatever game you pulled up now or Kirby games however the damage he does and timings for attacks are predictable and measurable.
Keep in mind that Halo 1 is treated as different from Halo 2.
When i was saying some thing will be difficult I was thinking like bringing doom guy into pokemon. Every pokemon has a type. Question what type will doom guy have ?
>A
>FRICKING
>ATTOSECOND
Cope, Flash was mind controlled by Ivy that didn't know how to use his powers
>Flash was mind controlled
Still proves my point
>Oh look at this
Some issues later
>No this does not count because bla bla bla
FLASH FACTS: Feline Force>Speed Force. Cope.
Feline Force trumps the Speed Force. It is canon and you chuds need to accept it. Feline Force gives Catwoman a 6th sense so she knew where to punch and kick before the flashes even showed up. It doesn't matter that Catwoman is lower than the flashes, Feline Force compensates for that.
kek @ Flashgays ITT
>B-but Flash solos anyone in DC!!!! Too fast!!