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>You tell me if it’s really this easy.
Effpeebeepee
Brilliant
Back then yes but only with dumb blondes. Now you have to check for a penis first
lmao at you american boy. yes i’m dying of famine but at least there are no dudes in skirts walking around
Elizabeth Banks has the hottest voice ever alongside Paget Brewster
based af imagine her moaning sounds HNGGHGHNGHHHHH
Before the Tinder age, yeah.
Skill issue.
/thread
How can you possibly cope with seeing everyone around you having sex and you aren't? Wouldn't the human race die off then?
>everyone around you having sex
>Wouldn't the human race die off then?
>Wouldn't the human race die off then?
check fertility rates of developed countries
>sex = kids
based moron missed the last 50 years of scientific advancement
I heard it used to be, now it's literally impossible to get laid as an average white guy
>Inb4 just don't use tinder
I'm 6'/145 and in uni. I was in the army too for a while and I can say that tinder seeps into all forms of human interaction. Women in universities have just as high standards face to face as they have on tinder
I have sex all the time as a 31 year old half unemployed skinny manlet. I do have an attractive face though
Fake and gay larp
You are just too much a pussy to talk to anyone or you are too ugly.
I have made eye contact with a girl from across the room and ended up fricking her within 15 minutes. Can't even remember her name.
You're either pretty or roiding. I said I'm average, my face isn't pretty, it's 50-69% in terms of attractiveness.
Only option for guys like me is to be alone or start taking TRT
it really is confidence. i have a nice face but that's it. just being around women will eventually get you one
>just being around women will eventually get you one
I'm thirty. When exactly is eventually?
Because you have a crippling fear of being embarrassed in public that prevents you from taking any chances. Oh you asked when it will happen not why it hasn't happened yet.
not scared of being embarrassed, just tired of being rejected.
>Because you have a crippling fear of being embarrassed in public that prevents you from taking any chances.
Wrong. I've asked out plenty of girls in public. Most politely reject me. Some give me their number only to ignore all my messages. My question, again, is when does this change?
Thanks, anon.
Well idk then anon. Maybe you are asking wrong. I hate to use this reference but are you demonstrating value? You said you are in Uni. Do you talk in class. Raise your hand and say smart stuff. Then you will have demonstrated some value before you ask.
I'm
, so I'm not at university. When I was everyone seemed to think I was the most intelligent guy in class, though that didn't seem to get me anywhere (romantically or in life). I think I come across as pretty mature and reasonably attractive, so I couldn't tell you what the problem is.
I totally get where you guys are coming from because I cycle between this all the time.
Unfortunately when you are in a dark place things compound negatively and you get worse and worse, so every rejection knocks your confidence so that the next time you think about it you aren't as good as your last.
As much as I believe some of the black pill shit being touted as being tall / attractive etc. I've personally been out in bars and seen literal manlets and very average guys just enjoying themselves and having a good time and getting with women.
Confidence and charm is key and these attributes come with PRACTICE. You need to put yourself out there somehow and join clubs. It's easy to say and type but hard to actually do.
Or just do what I did and move to Asia, I never changed my personality in anyway. I literally just stepped off the plane on the opposite side of the world and all of a sudden became very desirable to the point where I'm very jaded and really dislike coming home due to not receiving the same attention. I'm 27, slept with 60~ women, 55 probably being asian and all my ex gf's the same.
I think British women really are just hideous to me, mainly in attitude and the way they handle themselves.. probably because I've gotten used to other cultures, or maybe it's cope.
I think step one for anyone is get the right building blocks in place so that you have money coming in, a place of your own and then work on these other things.
Aussie women are worse. God i wish i went to asia
its not just embarrasment you have to fear. it's being labeled "creepy" or dealing with "sexual harrasment" allegations.
i lost my virginity at 29 to an 18 year old that most people would agree is attractive. so good things come to those who wait, in our case
thats basically rape, you creepy sex pest. gross
if i ever became famous my sexual relations in the past few years would definitely have me put down as a sex pest. i don't go for young women but that's what i end up getting
31 here yeah when?
>29 year old virgin on Cinemaphile had sex with a hot 18 year old
UH UH
RIGHT
Didn't lose my virginity at 29, but I met my current fiance when I was 29 and she was 19. Met her at a mathematics symposium while discussing my research (she was interested), and eventually she came to my lab and she asked me out. Pic related looks like my fiance except my fiance is more petite and still has baby face. Good things comes to those who wait indeed.
>everyone seriously, im still posting on Cinemaphile in my 30s and a 19 year old girl who looks like this hot porn actress totally was so interested in my autistic mathematics research
I'm sorry Anon.I'm sorry you haven't found her yet.
Do you ever hang out around women? I'm 35 and completely schizoid, but even I've been approached at work parties and such. I never reciprocate, though, which is why I still have my wizard powers
not them but i'm 30 and a khv and have never been approached by a woman in my entire life. can only assume its because i'm really ugly. is what it is. some people just don't get to frick.
You need to go outside and socialise to do that.
well, yeah, that's kind of a requirement if you want to meet someone
Anon please, eventually never happens
Not much currently I admit, I kinds gave up
Well either go out and try or keep on complaining
What are you doing to make it happen? Are you even chatting up any girls casually? Making some small talk bullshit about how pretty the campus is or something?
You're moronic.
How am I moronic? I'm the most basic b***h dude and gfless, not fat, not short, not autistic, not a neckbeard
We're just asocial schizoids. Years of being on this website didn't do us any favors socially and I'm not sure if it's reversible at this point
You don't need roids to have an attractive physique. Just spend a year lifting heavy and eating healthy to add some muscle and cut afterwards. Low bodyfat and muscle definition is attractive, not size.
Your problem is you’re a whinging homosexual
girls (and well everyone) just wanna be around guys who have interesting things going on and are fun to be around.
be honest with yourself, do you do interesting or fun things in your daily life? are you an active person? are you fun to be around or is your personality abrasive?
im trying to master football manager 2020 and really struggling with it, so i have htat
This is pretty much the biggest one. You can be decently attractive and have some money but pretty much lot's of girls want a guy with a social life that they can try to destroy. It's like a challenge for them.
I agree. But people who tell themselves that they live an uninteresting and unappealing lifestyle aren't very likely to pull themselves out of their misery. That kind of inspiration tends to come from positive reinforcement, which these people never receive.
This is true, you being interesting is ultimately about the people you spend time with
you have to lower standards a little bit dumbass. stop chasing stacey, she's not for you. you said you're 50% which actually translates to around 30%, lets be real.
50% of guys of my age are overweight
Most don't practice skincare. It's incredibly easy to average or above average by not eating like a pig.
I look pretty young for my age too
that doesn't sound very fun
Damn bro you're a sick c**t
And then everyone clap
And her name? Hunter Shafer
No it's pretty easy actually. Women are also more likely to find someone attractive because of persoanlity than men.
>I'm 6'/145
WTF that's ridiculously skinny. Malnourished twink tier.
No it's not, I honestly feel kinda fat. I think modern standards are kinda skewed so people think that it's malnourished. In reality it's not even skinny, this used to be the standard weight for men
Actually it's healthy BMI
>shoves entire deer body through a 2 inch railing gap
impressive. also how.
You're probably skinnyfat. Neither eating enough to get fat, nor exercising enough to grow muscle and definition. Noodle arms, slightest of bellies.
Kinda, that's why I have to lose more weight
Exercise isn't the immediate answer to dropping skinny fat
You need to cut hard enough to get rid of the belly fat first, it's consistently the last major fat deposit to cut down
You must have a tiny frame and head to even remotely seem like you have any extra fat on you at 6’ and 145 lbs
What is your waist size, 28?
No idea how to measure that, 33 at navel, 29 above it. Why would it matter? Is it bad? Good?
What size pants do you wear, dumbass. For me, it’s a 32x32. So I’m a 32 waist. First number of pants size is your waists.
All my pants are too big for me so idk
True true
I'm 6' too, and you really should do something about that weight. I was skinny at 145 and I was lean as frick, lifting and doing Muay Thai. You couldn't tell at all when I had a shirt on, I just looked like a skinny dude. I'm 160 now and have only just started looking athletic in clothes.
You're probably ignoring some aspects of your physique and/or personality that women find offputting. Are you a weirdo? Do you have social skills? Are you punching above your weight? Are you being fully honest to yourself?
just talk to girls moron
Rude.
Average guy on tinder? Literally impossible. Don't bother. Even with my handsome face (top10%) and godlike personality I have to spent a shit ton of time to get frick dates with good looking women.
Through human interaction? Possible but difficult.
>Women in universities have just as high standards face to face as they have on tinder
No, shut the frick up you defeatist cuck
Tons of average men and women are sucking and fricking. If you're not getting any, maybe the problem lies with you?
>Tons of average men and women are sucking and fricking. If you're not getting any, maybe the problem lies with you?
Are they? Where I live guys aren't having sex but women are, statistically speaking women have twice or even thrice relationships and sexual encounters compared to men.
>maybe the problem lies with you?
I'd agree if it wasn't a widespread and we'll documented problem
This tbh, I'm cutting until I hit 18 or something bmi
>Where I live guys aren't having sex but women are
I want you to think real hard about that sentence you massive fricking moron
>Chad pumps five different girls a month on tinder
>HURRDURRR HOW DO WOMEN HAVE MORE SEX
>6'4
>145lbs
You're built from kinex no wonder lmfaoooo you just sound like a pussy. I'm a 6'2 "average" white guy and it's easy mode just learn to smash the pussy and shut the frick up
You're tall as frick bro, 6' is literally 50%
You think that's bad, try being non-White.
You must be ugly or a weird weeb or something. When I was skinny it was the easiest years of my life as far as getting laid.
I'm not skinny, I still need to cut
If you're 145 and not skinny then you're sure as hell not 6' bro.
I am 6', 183 to be precise. I only have to look at my stomach to realize that I'm not skinny. I still have 1.2 BMIs room to cut and most of that is in my stomach.
I don't have a flat stomach for one
Why did you just say you're 145 then? Now I just think you're probably a weirdo which explains it.
183cm is slightly above 6', 145 pounds
>average
So, you're like 6, maybe 7 on a good day? Yeah, that what every below-average moron says. You're not attractive, so, you need to work to attract. That's always been the case.
As a man it's incredibly hard to become attractive without certain genetic attributes. But yes, I'm average, I'm not fat for one and most people are fat
I just had sex (it was mid)
>now it's literally impossible to get laid as an average white guy
Cinemaphile is full of non-white incels and discord trannies posting demoralization shit 24/7
if you genuinely believe that you are out of your fricking mind
I do genuinely believe that. Why? Because I'm that guy and I know guys like that. Moreover it's something that hits the MSM every now and then because it's a big problem.
Men were having less sex back in 2015, imagine how bad it's now
>im a white guy whos a loser who posts on Cinemaphile whos social life is basically nonexistent whose friends are a handful of other loser white guys with no social lives and likely antisocial beliefs we cant help but expiund to regular people
>yeah the reason we are virgins isnt because we are nerdy losers with no social skills, it's because we are "average" white guys! the world just hates us white guys, life is so hard!
Unironically yes. On average a dude might have like 0-2 gfs before they hit 30 here
True
It's not a bait
Lift weights and get up to 180 lbs you fricking pussy.
Relationships aren't about attracting the right person, it's about being the right person.
>external locus of control
Get your depression, anxiety, ADHD, etc. in order or stop being a b***h about things.
Yes
ADHD is a reddit disorder created in the early 90s to help parent’s cope with their slow children. ADHD is literally nothing more than a combination of bad upbringing, bad diet, or lack of self discipline. Sit back and assess your life, write down some specific achievable goals, fix your sleep and diet, and find a 'way of life' that fosters self discipline (I highly recommend lifting or martial arts for this).
Get good.
not him but i think i might have adhd could that be a reason im a 31 khhv?
> could that be a reason im a 31 khhv?
You aren't trying or you are over-evaluating your sexual value.
>You aren't trying
well of course i dont try im mentally fricked
Stop playing the victim. Improve yourself. Try. Try hard.
I'm sorry that happened to you bro. What's her name?
it's never happen to me. the only time I was ever in a serious relationship I fricked that up. I know about wiener chasers because I have plenty of experience with them but not as the boyfriend. I'm always the guy they cheated with or the rebound frick.
Skill issue.
Sex is overrated anyway man once you’re into your 30s you realize that it hardly fricking matters. It’s just hedonistic nonsense at the end of the day. What matters is companionship, which you can afford to play the long game for, and honestly works better when you “be yourself” (which is advice people give you for getting laid, which is stupid, because that’s the wrong situation for it.)
If a guy can’t get sex he definitely can’t get companionship dumbfrick
not really. you worry too much about what women think. women are mercurial by nature which means they have no fricking real clue what they like.
just have to balls to talk to them. there's no need to over think it.
>I'm 6'/145
>weeb homosexual pic
This is bait. kys
ok Mr. Skellington
That’s literally average BMI for a guy of his height, in fact it’s closer to being OVERweight than underweight. Gas yourself mutt fatty
>6'/145
You're literally a stick man, I am 6' and I weigh 165 and I'm still extremely skinny, you're 20 pounds lighter than me holy frick.
It's not a stick, your standards have been skewed by fat people. MOST PEOPLE ARE FAT, I'm not the abnormal one. Back 30 years and this was the average male BMI
In fact I have room to cut
No man, you are extremely thin and likely have body dysmorphia. 145lb is not normal for someone 6' tall, that is well below normal BMI.
Unironically start lifting, eat better and get some gains while you still have the chance.
Stop coping fatty. Yes in McMerica where the average person is obese he’s “thin”, but for his weight and height he’s well within the healthy BMI range. https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm
In fact you are the one who should be worried about YOUR weight, you’re on the verge of being overweight yourself and have no right to criticize that other anon. Your standards have been warped by insane mass acceptance of obesity. Face facts.
>6 foot and cant get laid
pro tip, its not your race, or your height. its your personality or you got a fricked up face.
I'm near dwarf status and still get laid. step your shit up bro I would literally shank you for 2 extra inches of height
Literally just frick Asian women, whitecel freak.
With Elizabeth Banks, yes. She's been sucking israelitewiener for money and roles for twenty years now.
Bathtub masturbatory scene was my first proper boner jam
>why is having sex so hard?
it's cause you dont try senpai
>Wait, it's really this easy?
It unironically is.
>At a bar with my female friend
>Her friend thinks I'm cute
>Ask her out
>She's immediately obsessed with me
It's really this easy?
>obsessed
oh no that’s not good unless she’s a virgin then that’s really good
Shouldn't it it be the opposite?
no. trust me bro
>starts by having a female friend to act as wingman at bar
>"haha wow, I just bee'd myself and everything went well!"
You started with an enormous advantage. Enormous. Firstly, she enables you to actually go out without you being the weird creepy loner at the bar. 2nd, she's a woman. So by socializing with you, even casually, she is implicitly marking you as someone safe and worth spending time with. 3rdly, she introduces you to her friend. That might have seemed innocuous, but I promise you, they discussed you when you weren't looking and your friend put in good words.
>but I promise you, they discussed you when you weren't looking and your friend put in good words.
My friend already confirmed this
No, in 2023 women will think you're some kind of rapist monster and either
Shoot you
Spray you
Call the cops on you
Unless you're stinking rich. Retail workers will get laughed at
I sometimes have a feeling that women, who work at retail, are actually bright, but they, probably, aren't. Altough this argument could be made for all females, regardless of their proffession and work place. Maybe it would not be so bad to treat them as lower beings. They like that, I think
You need to review the rules for comma usage
Kek, I wrote it like that because it's funny
>sexhavers
you homosexuals wont stop until this place implements screennames, profiles and likes
Would make it easier for you to desperately fit in and make you seem like less of a schizo for calling everyone who disagrees with you a troony or shill if that were the case.
its funny you call someone a skizzo while misquoting every single thing he said you social media obsessed goblin
I wasnt trying to quote him. Funny how I struck a nerve with you though even though you weren't the one I was originally responding to.
Seething
let me tell you a couple three things about how "easy" it is because clearly you're out ofnyour element here what you're seeing is basi
I have no idea if how attractive I look. I just assume all women think i'm ugly or too weird so I dont even try.
I've never noticed a women who could have been interested in me
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she's fricking disgusting.
Before you had to compete with apps, and women's validation addiction to it, yeah.
In the late 90s early 2000s I picked up so many women just hanging out & shooting the shit. Looks do matter, but its mostly confidence & charm. They can smell desperation from a mile away & it dries up their poons.
also, they're human beings and routinely make terrible decisions just like everyone else.
Seth Rogan's character knew her, and intentionally tried to get the 40YOV to talk to her because he knew how easy she was.
it was a setup.
>it was a setup.
Why?
>Seth Rogan's character knew her, and intentionally tried to get the 40YOV to talk to her because he knew how easy she was.
He didn't. When he makes a move on her himself near the end, he tells her his name
>average guy getting an attractive girl
liiterally only possible in the early 90s or earlier. that woman today with tinder would realise she has access to several thousand dicks and simps in every direction and if you dont have money or social status to compete, youre fricked
Remember this OP, there is one thing almost ALL men lie about, and that is their sexual experience. Don't compare yourself to liars.
what's your worst rejections? just got the "you remind me of my rapist" which I didn't think would be this hurtful
shoulda asked her if she's clairvoyant and just gone for it but at this point I've been lonely for so long that I get anxiety from human touch
i asked out my economics professor and she agreed
good luck
i'm 19 and she must be nearly 60
Sweety, she is too young for you. 65+ only
>you remind me of my rapist
Some women are actually into the rape stuff. If you're casually told that in a normal conversation I'd take that as a positive butavoid women like that
i wish i was like that. gonna watch marty (1955) again but switch it off before the unbelievable shit happens
>you remind me of my rapist
she was waiting for you to rape her dude
The one time in eighth grade my friends thought it would be funny to walk around to every group of girls at lunch and ask them if they would go out with me while I didn't know what to do and just stood there from afar wishing I was invisible while they pointed back at me
Of course no one would say yes to a secondhand joke approach like that, but let me tell you it really fricks up a kid to effectively get rejected by your entire grade in an afternoon
I've never been personally rejected because I've never asked anyone out despite being 31 years old. However, the rejection I've faced from society ending up as a 31 year old friendless kissless virgin with no accomplishments in his entire life has been enough rejection.
It was a movie.
ITT: "I CAN'T BREED!"
i like ugly women that look like this
was she even acting in this movie? she genuinely seems like a freak
Elizabeth Banks has always been hot. Somehow still is
I just find it demeaning to go out of my way to pander to women.
They make it a point in the movie that because he hasn't had his soul sucked out by some she-devil, he has had time to cultivate interesting hobbies and take care of himself. That makes him a very attractive prospect to 40+ women.
>collecting toys and playing video games
>"interesting hobbies"
He sings, paints, rides a bike, reads and plays an instrument.
what i hate is how impulsive women are that out of nowhere they get bored and leave.there is no loyalty anymore because they have so many options and yes its a women issue
i mean guys cheat all the time. but they rationalize it by saying "it's just sex" and "if women cheat it's just different"
That's correct though, women are mental creatures rather than physical.
only 10 more years lads. with how fast 20-30 went i'll be 40 in no time.
Yep, I'm 38, the last 15 years passed in the blink of an eye.
Literally yes. Just ask out the shy girl at work who likes anime. I have a date tomorrow because of this.
all the women around me have bfs or are in longterm relationships. i don't know where people find single women other than dumb luck. every woman seems to have no issue dating but there's an overabundance of single men.
>i don't know where people find single women other than dumb luck
That's pretty much what it boils down to unfortunately if you want to rightfully avoid dating apps. What you CAN do to improve those odds is widen your social circles. Even if the women in them are taken, they're bound to have female friends and the chances of you getting set up with someone in the periphery increase dramatically.
i've never had a female friend and i've never had anyone "set me up" or introduce me to any woman. like i said i can only assume this is because i'm like a 3/10. i've been friendless now for like a decade since i really don't see the point in socializing or trying to court any woman as a well below average man. if i was a 5/10 maybe but i really do think ugly men should just stay inside and make an effort to not spread their genes or interact with women, or anyone really. we don't deserve to see the light of day to be honest.
women would have no reason to leave their partner for me so sounds like a waste of effort.
>all the women around me have bfs or are in longterm relationships.
you know, many girls go from guy to guy but are never single. it's like jobs. when you start disliking your job you look for a new one before you quit your old one.
not saying you should go around blatantly flirting with girls in relationships though, just that not all of them are off limits. going for girls who are actually in happy relationships though is just asking for trouble.
>currently 31 and a kissless virgin
yeah ive basically been a social loser since i was a teenager which in turn turned me into a loser in every other aspect of my life. ive never even bothered asking a girl or woman out because i never saw the point since i had nothing to offer. when i was a kid through my mid 20s i was actually a funny guy, i would make people including girls laugh a lot, but never bothered trying to hang out because i felt asking people out would just make me a creep. now i hardly even talk to people anymore and completely hide from everyone so they dont see how pathetic my life is. its really over for me.
>6'1, 180lbs, good-looking, in a frat
KHV as a 2nd-semester junior in a big American state school
Try not to be an butthole/reveal your powerlevel, stay in shape and don't ruin your body and mind with (excessive) drinking and drugs, use that education for something useful that pays well, and eventually it won't be a problem. You will stop having problems talking to women as you get older, calmer and more clear-headed, while the women around you will tire of the wiener-carousel and start looking around for someone to build a home with.
>while the women around you will tire of the wiener-carousel and start looking around for someone to build a home with.
why would you even want to date those types of women. the actual decent women get married like right out of hs. all the rest are prostitutes or insane.
If you limit your options to women that never have casual sex, you really can't complain that you aren't getting any yourself.
>you vill date the used up roastie..
nah. i'm good. someone else can be pathetic enough to settle for them. i'd rather die alone.
DONT WORRY YOU WILL
that's fine. rather die alone than marry chad's soggy cumrag.
The entire premise of the thread is how to get with women. If you don't care, that's fine, but why are you here?
>why can't you just settle for the post wall prostitute with a double digit body count?
>stupid fricking incel chud.. be realistic.. tch..
If you judge a woman's character based on how recently she got her HS diploma you're already mindbroken.
gee, the guy on Cinemaphile saying "every women who doesnt get married right out of high school is a prostitute or insane" is mindbroken? no way
but you can absolutely judge it based on how many wieners she's taken
>HS girls don't have sex
Ok buddy.
damn bro good point. i guess youll have to keep crying about being a virgin then
nothing to cry about, it's simply a fact. if she's had a lot of wiener then she isn't going to be a good partner. sure maybe at first but it won't last. wiener seekers love the first few months of a relationship, they think that feeling is love which it's just the excitement of infatuation. infatuation fades and they're gone.
wiener seekers are great for sex and romantic trysts but that's it. the more partners she's been with is a good indicator of this. why should guys know what they're going into? women like this aren't without value, they're just only good for some things.
Do you guys recommend using a sex worker to lose my virginity past 25?
you're putting the pussy on a pedestal. virginity doesn't matter. I think as you get older you would be mildly ashamed of doing that.
Maybe but I’ve talked to some guys and said that it demystified pussy for them.
Definitely.
What movie?
bags of sand
>do you like to do it yourself?
shit gets me every time
>something is wrong with her underpants
Heh
i'll always love this movie because it taught me hurtin for a squirtin
I wish I could flirt.
I'm basically incapable of flirting/showing sexual interest because it feels "out of character" like I'm not being myself. And it's not like I think girls don't enjoy being flirted with, I see other guys flirting with girls and girls even enjoying it.
But it just that it feels absolutely wrong and turbocringe to myself whenever I try it, nothing about it feels natural or right whatsoever. In fact it feels pretty much like this pic related meme
It's ok anon. Just leave pussy to the rest of us.
Stop jerking off.
I went two months straight without jerking off before the nofap meme was even a thing.
After a while you just end up having a wet dream every 8-9 days or so so I got tired of waking up all jizzed up, now I jerk off like 2-3 times a week (no porn) and that's it
>Stop jerking off
>I don't jerk off except
>I jerk off like 2-3 times a week
what do you think not jerking off is going to do specifically to fix his issue?
He'll be horny and have some game.
you dont even comprehend the issues these people talk about, you just spew the LOL U WILL BE HORNY AND THEREFORE SUDDENLY "SPIT GAME" WIH WOMEN nofap garbage
>dude clearly has extreme confidence issues where he thinks that talking to girls makes him a creep
>lol just dont jerk off bro u will be horny and have game
skill issue
“Flirting” how it’s usually thought of is actually an optional activity for getting with many women. If you have a good conversation with her then ask her out, keep having good conversations, then ask her back to your place for a drink, keep having regular good conversation, then eventually go in for the kiss and boom momentum carries you from there. You’d be surprised how little you need to “flirt” with a lot of women.
It's not really optional, at some point you have to show sexual interest, be it directly or indirectly through body language.
You can't just go from "hi how are you" to a date without flirting /showing sexual interest to some capacity.
yes, but a lot of people think flirting is overt sexual advances, "spitting game" or whatever crap pickup artists spew. and some have been conditioned to expect all that, thinking if they're not saying some dumb line or being touchy they're not interested.
I don't usually have a problem getting dates, but I do have a problem like
where I never know how to show sexual interest/flirt in a natural way.
Like, walk me through the scenario
>Girl from an app
>Let's say it's a second date. No physical contact so far beside a hug at the end of the first, so it's time to escalate things
>at a bar, sitting at a table together
>been talking for 2 hours, good conversation, laughing etc
>but nothing sexual, just get to know you conversations and swapping stories etc.
How do I escalate this to asking her back to my apartment? Obviously I can just ask, but as
says it's weird to go from casual conversation with no real physical contact to "lets go back to mine"
We're at a bar and there's an entire table between us, I can't lean over and do gay shit like "touch her arm, touch her leg" that people suggest. I can say lame things like "Oh I really like your dress/eyes etc" but that's barely flirting.
Even if I just ask her if she wants to come back and she does, now we're two strangers sitting on my couch listening to music. How do I cross that touch barrier, how do I make a move?
homie just go on youtube and look up conversation routines and escalating.
normal people don't need to do this and just have shit happen to them organically with women starting in hs.
Every human being has advantages and disadvantages that make up who they are. That's just your starting point. When you identify an area of your life that you are weak in you then need to put in the time to build up your skills in that area.
Also you don't know what other people go through to get to the point that they appear natural at something. To give you an example some of the guys that make content about how to be charismatic and pickup girls will often tell you how they had to hit on over 1,000 women before it felt comfortable to them. The guys in school or your social circle most likely live in a way where they are constantly socializing with women, and THAT's why they seem normal/natural.
It's best to expose yourself to socializing properly at early ages because after a certain point it's almost too late for it to ever feel natural, even if you become a master at it. So learn now rather than later.
kek incel loser turbo autists like you always make me laugh and feel better about myself. thanks
50% of western guys are incels at this point and that number is only rising. Unless you’re some kind of genetically perfect gigachad (you’re posting here on a Saturday evening, you’re not) you are nothing better than a self hating incel.
there is no such thing as an "incel." celibacy is always voluntary. you always get what you put in. don't expect, suggest.
if you are ugly and neurodivergent 99% of women will not frick you.
When is the last time you had sex? No, being a safety net for Chad’s sloppy sixteenths doesn’t count. No, hookers don’t count. No, fat ugly old tattooed females don’t count. When was the last time you were able to get casual no strings attached sex from a reasonably attractive girl? I know you’re going to cope and make some absurd lie up but the truth is you’re just as much of a sexual failure as the average incel.
and coping intensifies.
you're expecting women, the attractors, to just run up and jump on your dick and ride you to completion.
not him but not a single woman has ever shown me signs or flirted or anything in 30 years. at that point if you approach you're the creepy weirdo.
you're only a "creepy weirdo" if you cold approach and are clearly uncomfortable doing it. that's what makes it weird. you don't want to do it, you're uncomfortable, therefore anyone you approach will be as well.
This. So much this.
Average guys can't have sex without an financial component. That's what relation is
I'm a 5/10 autismo with a shitty dead end job who still managed to bring a chick back to my parent's house. Stop coping.
I didnt expect you to actually start coping even more. thanks for the laughs anon
So when WAS the last time for you anon? It couldn’t be that I’ve struck a nerve, eh?
please cope more you're giving my sides a good workout
Stop posting my diary
>it feels absolutely wrong and turbocringe to myself whenever I try it
even if you are turbo cringe when you flirt if the girl likes you she will like it. A good tip is to try to ask her out within a few weeks of talking to her for the first time, if you wait too long it kills your chances.
>Go on a date with a girl
>She tells me how much she loved it
>She kissed me, held my hand
>She immediately asks to plan a second date
>She texts me 24/7, (She initiates texts)
>But she asks zero questions about me
What does this mean?
it means she secretly hates you
>But she asks zero questions about me
who cares the less she knows about you the better. she's clear happy and you should definitely frick
She's judging how much she likes you by feeling rather than logic (aka things you tell her). This is probably good. My girl was a bit like this at first and then later, because she's a girl, she got mad because "I wasn't telling her enough about me".
Basically, you will direct the conversation.
>My girl was a bit like this at first and then later, because she's a girl, she got mad because "I wasn't telling her enough about me".
Did that start making her ask questions?
Lol no. She's a girl. That was her way of making me make her ask questions, or start volunteering information. Women have no agency and don't want it.
>But she asks zero questions about me
>What does this mean?
She's a serial killer and/or reptilian and she wants to lure you to a remote location, murder you, and eat your brain. Run!
over the years i realized that i have some form of misophonia where certain sounds really make me angry, and for me its specifically high pitched loud sounds, i find them really annoying. well what this has led to is me getting really annoyed by women who have higher pitched voices (so basically all of them) and are loud (so basically all of them). like ill be sitting at my desk and hear some woman with a high pitched voice laughing and i just get so angry. or even a women humming along to some song, if she's doing a high pitched hum i get so fricking annoyed
its over for me isnt it bros?
its very sad that it seems like zoomer men at large have just given up pressuring women to be responsible for their actions. women are expected now to have had an onlyfans and a double digit body count in their twenties, and you're expected to thank them for the privilege of maybe dating them. while more young men are single and virgins now more than ever. this isn't sustainable but zoomer men seem to be weak enough to let women get away with more and more and more all while calling telling you that you're in the wrong if you speak up and say how utterly fricked up this all is. modern women are disgusting.
40 yr old here. Before I graduated high school I'd been with 3 girls. One of which was a girl I'd been friends with since we were real young. (next door neighbors). Post graduation I'd been with 4 more till I finally got with the one who I later married in 08. I'm not rich, hell I'm average as you can get. But I'm not a wimp and I don't look like a slob. I'm not an butthole either so there's that.
that is above average for a man and you're probably downplaying your looks huge.
No one seems to understand that you can't change who you are after a certain point. Past the age of 18, it is highly unlikely that anything about your levels of confidence or charisma will change. If you were a loser in high school, there's a 90% chance you'll be a loser in college, and from onwards a loser in life. I don't mean you won't be successful financially, but socially. If you weren't chad or chad-lite between the ages of 15-18/19, you won't ever be. Maybe you'll be able to con some drunk 5 into letting you frick, maybe you'll even find an insecure 6 who will pretend to like you for a few months until she recognizes that she can do better. You might even be lucky enough to marry some used-up roastie who found herself in college gagging on the wieners of the guys you wished you could be like, and eventually, she'll divorce you. Looks aren't the real blackpill, because an average dude with some charisma/funniness/charm can do okay for himself, but if you're the type of guy who comes to Cinemaphile on a Saturday evening to commiserate with other losers about never getting laid, just know that it's over for you. Get your kicks somewhere else, because the opposite sex really doesn't want anything to do with you and they likely never will.
i accepted i was going to die a virgin ages ago. just preaching to the choir. being ugly and not being incredibly charismatic or aggressively forward with women just means you will absolutely die a virgin nowadays. women have no reason to date ugly or boring men. they'll just get bred out of the gene pool.
>I don't mean you won't be successful financially, but socially
good for you financially is the most important thing
after she's "had her fun and found herself" with men better than you in every way possible except financially. not to mention there's nothing stopping a woman from holding out for a good looking well off guy.
if you aren't neurotypical chances are you will never be "normal" or fit in. women will not enjoy being around you.
It certainly helps, but it isn't the most important thing. If you're some weird autistic frick who's dull, speaks in a monotone voice, and can't maintain a casual conversation with a person, you're not getting gf. If you do manage to get one, the relationship won't last for very long.
I think I'm actually getting worse over time. I've done pretty well in the past with girls, have been dating one for 5 years, and I find myself drawn back to this place when I only occasionally lurked starting around 2012.
There are lots of non-losers here too. Don't worry about coming here unless you find yourself wasting so much time it interferes with your life. That applies to all online places and activities, of course.
Hopefully you're right. I basically can't stand all other sites. Reddit, Facebook, Twitter...all npc garbage. I like it here but I have a mostly normal life otherwise.
This is not true whatsoever, ignore this post
>t. virgin at 23, have now fricked 38 women at the age of 28, had multiple long term relationships
>meticulously tracks the exact number of women he has had sex with as it approaches 40
you sound pretty sad bro
>meticulously tracks
It's really not meticulous. How hard is it to know you've slept with X people, and then if you sleep with someone new go X+1?
thanks I will it's really great, what do you do with your life?
Saddest and most butthurt post I have read in years
that's disgusting man. enjoy your mindless hedonistic lifestyle.
Based anons.
These losers will not improve because they convinced themselves they can't.
I don't know why they don't look for an older woman to train them up. late 30s or early 40s.
they're desperate for any wiener and they'd love to make a young autist their frick pet.
childless single women in that age range really know how to frick.
few men in their age range want anything to do with them, so the kissless virgin is perfect for them.
Is 25 too old to get fit and laid?
I'm an incel and I've been hit on couple of times by older women. I turned them down because I didn't want my first time to be just a hookup, some of them were like rly hot too.
Most drunk
>Is 25 too old to get fit and laid?
Absolutely not. There are people that did that in their 30s. Yes, they feel they missed out. And also yes, they think better later than never. WAY better.
Also try to be able to hold a conversation, groom. Muscles are not all.
I'm that age and women my age don't want me either
I somewhat agree with you but you have the ages wrong. For some weird ass reason a lot of anons base life projections around 18yo version of a person or rather when they typically leave high school for the real world. I assume it's because these are all young people making this assumption. You haven't even entered higher learning yet or had your first real job. There's still a shit ton to life that you haven't experienced yet at 18 that will definitely change you later on once you do.
hs years affect and shape people more than people realize, and i can only assume the people who had a decent hs life are unaware of this.
The joke 'peaked in high school' exists for a reason. Normal people don't flatline or lose traction from what they had going on in high school. You're supposed to get better from there.
>if you agree with him then why are you saying the ages are wrong?
I said in my post that he has the ages wrong. People become set in their ways in their 40s and 50s, not at fricking 18.
most brains are totally developed by your twenties at the latest and neurologically its all downhill from there. like i said i'm willing to guess you had a decent hs life if you're acting like someone can miraculously do some sort of 180 in their twenties or thirties. people like you are completely and blissfully unaware of how the other side lives.
>most brains are totally developed by your twenties
This is nerdspeak to hide from obvious laziness. The human condition goes beyond when the brain completes development. You still have a normal functioning brain that continues to learn new things and retain lessons from new experiences. You then apply that to what you want in life. It's funny how ONLY people with social or developmental problems always bring up crap like that. It's like fat people that start talking about muh metabolism - it's just a cope.
>I wasn't a chad in HS. That means life is over
Most HS chads are townies with shit jobs unless their family had money. Meanwhile there are lots of late bloomers that went on to bigger and better things. Stop crying and learn how to fix your life and stop telling other anons that they can't fix theirs.
where did you get those shoes from the Goodwill?
>Most HS chads are townies with shit jobs unless their family had money. Meanwhile there are lots of late bloomers that went on to bigger and better things
>haha yeah i was a complete nerd in high school but i now make 250k as a software engineer, i totally made it as a late bloomer doing such big and important things haha
the brain is never "completely developed." this is a misquote of there being less neuroplasticity in people over 26 than under. neuroplasticity is the brain "recording" information. if it ever stopped, that person would be unable to learn or even deviate from a set course of actions.
if you agree with him then why are you saying the ages are wrong? this is basically the entire crux of his argument.
>No one seems to understand that you can't change who you are after a certain point. Past the age of 18, it is highly unlikely that anything about your levels of confidence or charisma will change. If you were a loser in high school, there's a 90% chance you'll be a loser in college, and from onwards a loser in life. I don't mean you won't be successful financially, but socially.
This is basically what happened to me. I was relatively normal as a kid but became a socially isolated loser in high school and it laid the foundation for being a complete loser for the rest of my life. Since I didn't gain any social skills in high school, I went to college without social skills and didn't gain any there, in fact I basically became socially avoidant mostly hiding from social interactions, and it was a completely miserable experience, which affected my studies as well. Then I graduated college and got some dead end job and with my complete lack of friends and relationships I never mustered any confidence, motivation, ambition, or reason to bother improving myself, so here I sit at 31 having accomplished nothing in my life besides 24/7 suicidal thoughts.
I know that I can't just blame high school for the resulting 10-15 years of complete crap I have had, that I have to take blame for doing nothing to improve myself or my situation in the time since then. But it basically laid the foundation for everything. There are plenty and probably way more people who had a similar situation to mine in high school who actually made something of their lives.
40 year old virgin isn't about a guy making fundamental changes to himself, its about a guy who had some bad formative experiences learning those experiences were the exceptions, not the rule.
which most people understand after a certain point.
he also gets multiple opportunities to have sex the moment he starts making even the slightest effort. its very much from the normie perspective.
if you aren't ugly, it literally is that easy.
It’s not the 80s anymore moronic boomer, monogamy is dead and we live in a polygamous world now. 1 in 3 men under 35 haven’t had sex in the past year. Another 1 in 3 haven’t had sex at all, ever. If you are not in the uppermost echelon of men getting laid at all is a tough accomplishment, easy sex does not exist
fun fact: "incel" was coined by the people it described
people like to forget this.
it literally started as the mother of all copes. now its an "insult."
its an insult because failing to do one of the most normal things 95% of people do effortlessly makes you a subhuman failure.
Correction, 95% of women do it effortlessly, not the case for men. Humanity is a naturally polygynous species like most mammals are. Before civilization only 1 male reproduced for every 17 females, after civilization the ratio is about 1 male to every 8 females. The majority of men have ALWAYS been incels and always will be, the internet just let betas break through the societal propaganda and see the truth for what it is. There is nothing to be ashamed about if you’re an incel, it’s just the genetic destiny you were born into.
social skills are like reading ability. dyslexics are going to struggle with reading because key parts of their brains haven't developed correctly yet. every communication skill can be affected to varying extents in a similar way.
note that only around 7% of what makes a person form a good impression of you is verbal, and only like 15% is because of how you look. most of it is stuff people aren't even aware different people can be good or bad at.
the foundation of all "social skills" is simply being comfortable. if you're comfortable, you make others comfortable. if you're uncomfortable, you make others uncomfortable.
that's it.
people are comfortable because they feel they know what they're doing and can anticipate good outcomes. its harder to do either of those things if you're unskilled bad at handling a specific set of situations and most of your experiences in those situations have been bad.
another issue with social skills is how hard it is to catch up if you fall behind, because you can only practice on peers, and only peers close to your skill level are going to want to socialize with you. its a viscious circle.
pure autistic ideation.
you're describing being constantly in your head, obsessing over details and what could happen. this is not what comfortable people do.
Again, it’s easy to be comfortable if you already know what you’re doing or have experience or confidence that you can succeed. But it’s irrational and impossible to be comfortable doing something you’ve never done before, and have no prior social base to build off of. Telling someone to just stop being uncomfortable is like telling a hospital patient to just stop being in pain. It’s totally unhelpful “advice” that helps no one and says nothing of import.
no one knows what they're doing.
no one knows what they're doing because confident, socially adept people didn't have to consciously "learn" social skills. they just started out with natural ability and got a lot of practice without trying because people wanted to prioritize talking to them from a young age.
so you're really just highlighting why autistic people struggle: socially skilled people can't teach them because they can't articulate most of what they're doing right.
honestly, being good-looking isn't meritocratic, I don't know why people feel the need to pretend that being charismatic is.
>they just started out with natural ability
so did you. then something happened to make you question yourself, what might happen, etc. which is the source of the anxiety that others can perceive and be affected by.
no, life really isn't that experiential. genetics doesn't control what happens to you but it heavily influences what experiences you get a chance to learn from.
>genetics
the mother of all excuses.
>someone who regularly interacts with women, has had large, healthy, and active social circles since childhood, and already feels confident that he can succeed due to good looks, high social status, and secured wealth can be comfortable, so you who have none of these things can be comfortable too! These totally different situations are the same thing!
I bet you’re the same kind of moronic troony that would b***h and whine if a boomer ever told you to get a job and pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Kys ASAP
you're angry because i'm telling you the truth. if only people you describe could ever get laid, then humanity would be extinct. comfort doesn't come from having no problems, comfort comes from not worrying about consequences. the simplest way to not worry about consequences is to simply know that, whatever happens, you can deal with it. that's what actual confidence is.
Historically speaking only about 1 in 10 men have reproduced. And yes, obviously more than 1 in 10 men meet my criteria, so humanity is in no danger of going extinct. Your ignorant words about just ignoring consequence bro can only come from a place of abject sheltered privileged stupidity. In the real world you can’t just avoid consequences by believing in yourself and thinking everything will turn out ok. You’re a moronic ape and a lying Black person.
so now you're just rationalizing your self-consciousness.
>Historically speaking only about 1 in 10 men have reproduced
actually its 50%.
the 1 in 10 number (I've heard numbers way higher) is because higher-status males end up with larger shares of the gene pool over successive generations. if a specific lord is more likely to frick a lot because of status, and so are his sons and grandsons, in a few hundred years like 90% of the population is going to be descended from that guy.
around 90% of females used to reproduce.
you're uncomfortable because you're worried about the outcome of an interaction. worried about what they'll think of you. worried about what if you don't know what to say
so telling you to stop being uncomfortable is telling you to stop obsessing over what might happen, and just accept whatever does happen.
You’re literally just assuming things you moronic Black person. What if I don’t know what to say? I DON’T know what to say, period, because I don’t interact with women, I have zero experience dating, and I have very weak social skills overall. It’s the same for everyone? No, because
A.) the normalgay has been socializing actively since childhood while I haven’t, he has a greater base to build off of at the start while I have nothing
B.) his start was at an age where it’s acceptable to be inexperienced, his teens. For a guy in his late 20s or early 30s to act in the same way will be treated completely differently.
The situation is completely different. Not to mention, it’s NOT the same situation because the normalgay doesn’t need to cold approach in the first place due to having social healthy circles. It’s night and day.
more excuses.
Yeah bro why don’t disabled Somalian orphans just pull themselves up by the bootstraps and become silicon valley billionaires? They need to stop making excuses and pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
>10 males
>10 females
>2 males mate with 3 females each
>2 males mate with 2 females each
>6 males don’t mate at all
>all females have reproduced, majority of males have not
Look up what polygynous reproduction is. Use your brain for once
you are causing your "disabilities." you weren't born without legs. you're just self-obsessed.
always has been. virglings cope.
High school is shit about teaching you about life. College is to to be frank. The only good bits about both is getting pussy and that's about it. Once your out in the world you realize just how meaningless it all was. aside from the pussy that is.
haha yeah i got so much pussy in both haha
so if you don't get pussy or social skills it was all pointless. got it.
Just face it: the world is a better place without more (You)s in it. Your parents probably shouldn't have gotten married. They probably shouldn't have had kids. But it was a different time, and things were good, but they aren't anymore. The world doesn't need more losers, and if you're here, right now, talking about how you can't get laid, then you are a loser. If by some miracle you managed to reproduce, your kid would be a loser too. He'd have your subpar bone structure, your middling height, and your "average" (read: small) penis. And most importantly, he'd have your set of neuroses that brought you to CinemaphileCinemaphile on a Saturday night. It would be a far more noble and righteous act for you to exit society than try and "improve yourself." If you honestly buy the whole doomer-to-bloomer self-improvement meme for incels then you're almost as delusional as a MtF troon. I'm not saying you should have a nice day; that would be cruel toward your parents, but you should have the decency not to subject normal people to the second-hand embarrassment of seeing you try and be like them. YWNBAChad.
Never seen someone project harder, impressive
I think the reason people aren't having sex more has little to do with the desire to. Rather no one can afford the cost if any accidents happen during sex. It costs 17k a year. Raising a child is expensive. From the day your baby is born until the day they turn 18, your family will spend about $310,605 — or about $17,000 a year, according to a new Brookings Institution analysis of data from the U.S. Agriculture Department
condom
I want a flat stomach before I can build muscle
Wrong move. Build muscle then cut weight. You're already eating like garbage, swap some of those calories to protein and start lifting weights. Without cutting calories, your body will still start to look better. Get those base muscles, then cut.
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It's not complicated
the "just stop thinking and put yourself out there" tactic only works for people good looking with a social group, and at that point if you have issues dating with looks and friends it is your fault. without friends or looks you will probably die alone unless a miracle occurs (it won't).
excuses.
and it isn't "don't think." its "don't think about what might happen, there are too many possibilities and you're just going to make yourself crazy."
there is nothing cringier than seeing some 30 year old or older ugly loser virgin trying to better his life or date. its for this reason i do not try. no point when everyone that sees you will just instantly think you're pathetic, creepy, and a failure.
im 31 and have a 26 year old coming over tonight and a date with a 28 year old tomorrow. pretty sure the new 20 year old at work wants my dick too
im literally a manlet too, maybe you should just try homosexual
i wasn't talking about you chad. i'm guessing manlet to you is 5'10".
im 5'6 brother
Frick you.
I refuse to believe you can be a virgin past 17
It’s just too easy
i am a 30 year old kissless virgin. just be ugly and a friendless shut in its not hard.
the guy above whos trying to explain this is doing it in an autistic way, but it is definitely true how difficult it is as an autist seeing how for most people, all the regular thing in life come with them not even having to try.
having friends, having relationships, doing fine in school, doing social activities, getting a decent job, getting married, house, kids, etc, all of it comes to these people through no real concerted effort on their part, basically they just exist and live a normal life and it all comes to them. juxtapose this with the autists especially on Cinemaphile having to meticulously psychoanalyze all their interactions, read books about social skills, and put in so much effort just to hope to get the most basic things of life that everyone else gets just from waking up in the morning and going about their normal day.
the real cherry on top of misery is how you then see all of these normal people with these normal lives who then say how they have "anxiety" and "depression" and go on meds when there is literally not a single element of their lives that shows anxiety or depression at all, yet somehow they think they have it. i cant even comprehend what makes these people think like this,.
I'm only 6 years away from the title of this movie. I remember when I was a teenager laughing at this and thinking it would never be me haha....
Now, looking at this movie today I can understand that the main character has a fulfilling life. He has a hobby he enjoys, he has a job, co-workers he is friends with, rides a bike to stay in shape and healthy, lives in his own place how he wants, and is in general in control of his life. and yet this was considered a laughable loser in 2004 or whenever this came out because he was a virgin.
My life is so much more pathetic than his and it's not even close. I'm a pathetic NEET. I have never had a real job in my life. I leech off my parents like a parasite. I haven't had a friend in almost 20 years. I've never even kissed a girl much less had sex, and have become completely apathetic to it.
Steve Carrel in this movie is a fricking gigachad compared to me.
in a few years away from your situation and i think that the plot is really unrealistic because i dont think that in reality someone like carrell's character would actually be happy with their life. i mean he has a lot of aspects that are shit, being a retail slave at 40, having an apartment, no car, nerd hobby of collecting action figures, but miraculously he's actually very happy instead of being miserable rubbing off on other people
>I am 6'
well that chick was a bawd so its not always that easy. but like jay said, andy was a good looking guy. the girls were totally into him when they were watching the guys arguing in the soundproof room. he was a volcel.