Wait, so they couldnt charge him and they just let him go?

Wait, so they couldnt charge him and they just let him go?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    is that james cameron? qrd?

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Charge him with what

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it’s a free country officer

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What would they charge him with? Who did HE kill? Huh?

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They ground him up and used as an aphrodisiac, did you even watch the movie?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The scene where Don Cheadle mixed his remains up into a paste and used a syringe to inject it into his urethra was too much, I know it's a meant to be a gorefest but come on

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    post jigsaw vocaroos

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Charge him with what exactly? The choice was always theirs.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They had nothing on him. Absolutely nothing. Nothing would hold up in a court of law, nothing would stick. He completely out-classed the law.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He acted without malice, that's the key here

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Everyone gets a chance
    >Okay Janitor whose crime is smoking and harming no one, I'm going to put you in a hold your breath contest against someone who doesn't smoke and is much younger and in better shape
    >Live or die, make your choice

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >there will be blood

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you'd have better luck getting a jaywalker a life sentence

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    He cut the cop throat, that is enough

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That was part of a peaceful protest against police brutality. Jailing him for that would be a disgrace to freedom of speech.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Only works if the cop is white, he was a black cop

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Lawyer here. Here's the beauty of Jigsaw-- by allowing his victims to choose their own fates, he technically cannot be convicted of homicide. Let me clarify.

    Webster's dictionary defines murder as having the following elements:
    >1. unlawful
    >2. killing
    >3. through criminal act or omission
    >4. of a human
    >5. by another human
    >6. with malice afterthought

    Jigsaw takes advantage of a couple of different legal loopholes. In this case, it would be in regards to point 2, 3, and 6.

    >2. killing
    Jigsaw never actually "killed" any of his victims, per-say. They always had a choice.

    >3. through criminal act or omission
    Even if Jigsaw did kill anybody, it was not through criminal act. There is nothing criminal about letting your victims choose their own fates, through their own free will. They are liable for their own actions.

    >6. with malice afterthought
    The whole point of Jigsaw's antics was to serve as a life-changing, positive rehabilitation. Therefore, Jigsaw acted without malice.

    I hope this clear things up for anybody who previously didn't understand the legal technicalities of this film.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Lawyer here, there's no way he could ever be convicted. I've discussed the matter at length with several partners at my firm and they all say the same thing, no individual charge could be proved beyond reasonable doubt

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    jigsaw is at worst a kidnapper, and I don't think even that would stick. to call him a murderer is just an emotional response, not based on solid law

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >to call him a murderer is just an emotional response, not based on solid law

      You don't know shit about law. If you push someone in a cage with a tiger and lock the door that is first degree murder even if you throw a lockpick in there. You can easily prove intent because all jigsaw's traps were elaborately made beforehand so he wanted to kill his victims.
      That you could in theory escape the traps means nothing. Giving the victim a small chance of escape doesn't change anything.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        could you point me to the scene with the tigers in the Saw films? no one was put ''in a cage'' with a wild beast out for their head. these people all chose to do what they did to themselves

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          assistant DA here, completely agree he probably would walk considering how old he is

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Hey buddy, if you read you'll see there's actually quite a few lawyers in this thread all saying the same thing, so maybe keep your unqualified opinions to yourself ok?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It has been a while since I saw one of those movies, but I'm sure all of these are crimes he commited:
          ... drugging someone against their will
          ... kidnapping
          ... inflicting emotional harm and trauma
          ... enforced physical self harm
          ... endangerment
          A lawyer should be able to come up with a dozen more and in the correct legalese. English isn't my first language.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Heresay. All your "evidence" comes from films.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >drugging someone against their will
            he says she says
            >kidnapping
            show me when he slept with children
            >inflicting emotional harm and trauma
            breaking up with your girlfriend isn't a crime as much as you want it to be, femanon
            >endangerment
            you're more likely, and more people die every day driving to work than anything we've seen in a Saw film. Should we make driving a crime?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Heresay. All your "evidence" comes from films.

              Kidnapping
              Unlawful confinement
              Desecration of a corpse
              Fraud
              Improper disposal of biologically haserdous material
              All the times he drugged people unconscious.
              That time he rigged a shotgun to go off when the tripwire is crossed is at least murder 2.

              He's a pretty bad guy.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Again, your evidence is from FICTIONAL films, not the actual events.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >he rigged a shotgun to go off when the tripwire is crossed
                it was self defense bro they were in his territory

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Improper disposal of biologically haserdous material
                not his pipes, not his problem

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >make A CHOICE to go into jigsaws den
                >make A CHOICE to set off tripwire
                >make A CHOICE to get shot with a shotgun

                Yeahhhh I'm gonna go with jiggy boy here. He offered them a choice at every step of the way and they chose to get shot. If anything they should be reimbursing him for the cost of the shell, wire etc. not to mention the bill for all the cleaning products required to get that blood off the walls

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katko_v._Briney

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >using Wikipedia as a source

                Where did you get your law degree, the back of a cereal packet?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >what are the actual sources at the bottom
                So you don't believe Katko v. Briney, 183 N.W.2d 657 (Iowa 1971). you fricking chud?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >All the times he drugged people unconscious.

                Ya but he had Amanda and Detective Hoffman do most of that. Those two also committing actual murder.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              proof, did he have records of him buying drugs?
              was there drugs in their blood that would prove this? in their urine/shit?

              kidnapping? any video evidence of him putting them there? any registered vehicles capable of moving unconscious people? those videos only show some demented puppeteer edging them on to do themselves harm to get away. mentioning CRIMES and DEEDS that they have either no evidence for and/or having been already considered innocent in the court of law of them, are not liable for criminal prosecution(civil too if the frickers are smart in court)
              emotional harm and trauma, where is the evidence he put them through all this, all the locations are out of public view, owned by various different people who are NOT the accused, and have had enough hobo's, trespassers, and others wondering through to make any evidence hard to gather/prove
              now if the courts allowed remote/detective surveillance of the man and THEN they saw him
              1) recording, spying, and infiltrating peoples lives, and paying detectives to gather evidence of wrongdoing WITHOUT telling the police/turning over evidence
              2) buy medical waste(drug user needles/blades/used hospital waste) ILLEGAL
              3) several of those drugs and traps(always illegal in the US/law enforcement MUST have ease of entry to your home/castle without fearing for their lives/safety) are ILLEGAL

              the REAL REASON HE GETS AWAY WITH SHIT IS..........
              he has TERRIBLE, terrible blackmail on all the judges, then the judges twist the law and allow him to get declared innocent and thus no double jeopardy

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they tried to charge him with kidnapping
    but the only people he tested were adults, and the DA wasn't about to imprison an old man for napping

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe im just a huge better call saul fan, but the lawyers itt seem to be 100% correct

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Hey Tv, Lawyer here, longest serving Justice in my county.
    When I was writing my opinion in Marbury V Madison I considered circumstances exactly like Jigsaws. Just like the early republic after the Declaration of Independence, jigsaw gave his target a choice, and they chose poorly. It’s therefore impossible to hold him accountable for murder. Kidnapping is the most he could even be charged for.

    Alright guys gotta go, I’m in a dispute with President Biden over some treaties, unfortunately they chose to sign them, and then similar to the native americans chose to walk the trail of tears so I think any claims of genocide will fail. Might have to take the L on that one. See you guys later

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I watched the whole film and they never showed or mentioned the gigantic jigsaw robot they're building in the poster, what gives?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      they can't get charged with false adverstising. because you CHOSE to watch the movie to the end.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It was in the after credits scene. Lots of references to it in the film though, just gotta look carefully. Becomes pretty obvious on the 4th or 5th rewatch- my film studies class practically did a semester on this movie

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Love how theres a whole law firm that lurks tv and waits for the saw threads to start posting.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I was talking to my lawyer friend about the Saw movies and he said that an interesting thing about Jigsaw is that he technically didn't do anything wrong from a legal perspective.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There is no law against what he did. They couldn't charge him with anything.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    so it's confirmed by accredited lawyers that whatever happened in the movies was completely legal, right?
    can i be irl jigsaw? they will never charge me, will they? it's a pretty fun way to spend the weekends

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The government literally has people writing propaganda full-time to make people think they *can't* get away with it. Go make the world a better place dude

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      2nd year law student here, it is true.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    jigsaw had a reasonable belief that they were armed robbers impersonating police officers because they failed to properly identify themselves or show him a warrant.

    He's in the clear on that one.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Honest kidnapping is pretty much off the table since he only ever napped one kid.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      And the kid was in a safe place

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I actually asking my DUI attorney about this series of movies and he told me it's true, Jigsaw committed no crimes. I was shocked too, but my lawyer is a legal expert.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    a girl once said I looked like this guy
    i was 19 at the time
    what did she mean by that

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      she meant you looked innocent

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sitting Congressman here to add in my two-cents as I see a lot of confusion in this thread. No, "Jigsaw" did not in fact break a single law in the entire series of films. This is the main reason why we never see him go to prison. I would say which Congressman(or woman!) I am but that would violate the Constitution, and as it seems to fit the theme of this thread, I will not do that just like Jigsaw did not.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      SCOTUS here. This is what's known as a "benchmark case". Hence why the good congressman is so familiar with it. It's well known that jigsaw committed no crimes as, previously said, he acted with benevolent intentions.

      This country would be a better place if we all had a little more jigsaw inside us. (As Don Cheadle can attest)

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just got out of a meeting with the supreme court laughing at all you imbeciles thinking he can be tried for anything
    Do you arrest the man who made the gun or the one who pulled the trigger when someone gets shot? Jiggy has committed no crime.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    My university professor divides his class up into 2 where one side argues one point and the other the contrarian point.
    One class he gives the saw movies, they decide which movies as only a couple are hard evidence against Mr.Saw.
    Basically these threads are just doing their homework them and it's almost october now, deep into your semester courses.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I certainly hope this isn't the case as my legal council comes at a high hourly cost and there's no prorating. Any legal council I provided in this thread is not intended for us of personal gain. I happen to know quite a few law professors around the country....

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    if you can make a choice to live or die then why are euthanasia centers banned?????????

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've looked through every law book from every part of the world. Jigsaw did not commit one, single crime. Nothing. Not even a civil code violation.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    didn't he slice one guy's throat at some point?

  35. 1 year ago
    Aŋonymous

    It's established early on that it's the "victim's"" choice
    >Live or die, make your choice

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Only leftoids think he did anything wrong because they don't believe in personal responsibility.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Negligent homicide, while not directly responsible for the deaths, he can be charged for failing to prevent the victims from being harmed or killed when there's a safe way out

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