>wants to give everyone superpowers

>wants to give everyone superpowers
Is this truly a villainous motivation? Sure he's doing it for petty reasons but what's so bad about giving everyone powers?

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  1. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Because that wasn't his motivation. It was just a side goal to rub salt in the wound.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Okay so he would also make alot of money from it like any other business man with a very good product . It's not evil by itself. The only evil part was training the kill bot by hiring and murdering real heroes

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Is this truly a villainous motivation?
        thats not his motivation, thats just something he tells to mr incredible to get under their skin

        his true motivation is arrogance, plain and simple
        he believes himself entitled to fame and recognition because of his genius
        he just assumes that he can be mr incredibles sidekick because he can build rocket boots and that he can just impose that demand on mr incredible because of it

        even his belief in technology removing the uniqueness of superheroes is flawed, he believes power in itself makes one special, rather than cultivating any inner goodness or righteousness

        >the only evil part was the evil part

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          His main motivation seemed to be wanting to be the big hero that everyone worshiped and adored. He wanted to be Mr Incredible. His whole plan amounted to defeating some bad guy in the middle of town with thousands of onlookers around and on tv, then be worshiped as the greatest hero ever immediately afterward.

          the revenge plot against Mr Incredible seemed more like a secondary thing. Or something that is just a really nice addition to his main goal. when he thought he killed Bob, he did it quickly on a whim and just kind of Ho hummed away after it was over. It was not a huge triumph, just a
          >Cool, now that's over with...

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            you do have a good point anon, he didn't go full on white whale with bob and felt more like he was an unexpected hinderance

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            you do have a good point anon, he didn't go full on white whale with bob and felt more like he was an unexpected hinderance

            He saw Mr. Incredible as the toughest challenge and final test run for the robot.
            If Mr. Incredible couldn't defeat it, no one could, meaning that even if Supers came out to try and stop the city attack, they would just end up death.

  2. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why wouldn't he focus on technology and not genetics? Once you have real powers nothing can stop you. technology is dangerous since it can fail you

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because his field of expertise was in making machines.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Create a machine AI learning program
        >Make it extremely smart
        >don't give it any powers beyond that so it can't harm you
        >Ask it to tell you how genetics work on sups

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like someone like him woulnt want to become the thing he hates, just being able to mimic them and get the same results / glory is enough for him after he murders the super heros.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Create a machine AI learning program
      >Make it extremely smart
      >don't give it any powers beyond that so it can't harm you
      >Ask it to tell you how genetics work on sups

      genetic modification only works on babies in-utero, because once you're out of the womb the body naturally kills and replaces its own cells periodically.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Than change the dna in all your cells

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          maybe, but at that point you'd have to alter literally every cell in your body - including your own brain - to incorporate that genetic info. For comparison modern crispr can only target specific sections of a single cell then wait for that single cell to divide.
          In fiction possible, but making a machine to do it would be way more feasible.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            there's also using retroviruses minus the self-replication bit. those also change DNA

            however, AFAIK a lot of gene expression is modulated by non-DNA stuff like the extracellular environment and DNA methylation and we can't really manipulate that selectively

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        That's actually fricking wrong.
        Else the MRNA shot most of you morons took wouldn't have raped your DNA so that you produce spike proteins rather then semen and a whole host of other things.

  3. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I think killing two dozen retired people just so he can sent a big robot to downtown, that will likely kill a whole lot more people, without any supers getting in the way just so he can have a public glory moment and be famous is kind of an butthole plan.

  4. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't he kill a bunch of supes?

  5. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I need to compare. Are there any villains (heroes cannot have such a grand setting changing motivation) with the same goals? What are they like?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Lex Luthor had this goal during 52. Then he murdered every civilian he gave superman’s powers to in a fit of rage when he found out the same process could not be done to himself.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Well...the reason is Luthor is a god level metahuman and the moment his shit activates he'll be throwing hands with Superman like it's fricking nothing.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          If personality plays a role in your powers then he shall become Kryptofrick the man with a kryptonite dick

  6. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Did you forget he's a serial killer?

  7. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I like the theory his power was super intelligence and he didn't get it. Kid was creating fricking rocket boots

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's probably like sky high, where science and technology is not respected as a power

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Well by brad bird’s philosophies that would make sense.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      kino

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        the best one is the one linking all the pixar movies aren't that time with his work being the bedrock for either Wall E or Cars

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit. Watching the movie again with that in mind, that makes Syndrome's entire arc like a Shakespearian tragedy, and adds so many more layers to an already (pun intended) incredible film.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        it's a genuine masterpiece. THe second had some kinda good moment and a real upgrade when it comes to graphics but the rest was lacking.

        >forget that he killed people for just a minute, hear me out

        look he's funny and bombastic he's like Dio

  8. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    The Incredibles is the media literacy filter of the animated world.

  9. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I thought he was their uncle or something from the poster

  10. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if every terrorist had powers as well. Giving everyone super tech will devolve society into anarchy ruled by survival of the fittest.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I remember it being the cliffhanger of the season 1 of the boys. Is it important later on ? Or it's not allowing drumpf bad enough

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Come on, it would be survival of whomever has the most money. People who can buy the really good shit will be overpowered while everyone else gets the cheap stuff.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone can go down to their local fricking hardware store and pick up enough stuff to be a homegrown terrorist or serial killer.
      Hell a good old fashioned POISONED THE TOWNS WATER SUPPLY supervillain plot can be hatched up and done RIGHT NOW.
      And NUKES (lol as if those are real) are everywhere.
      And litteral fricking lunatics already spread a virus that has sterilized and murdered 80% of the western world right now.

      Why haven't we seen this shit pop off? Precisely.
      It's brainwashing by those in power. A poisioning of the subconscious of humankind to want to be weak and powerless, to never want to achieve something great and do great.

      Because those in powers are terrified of it. Their rule depends on fear self hatred and delusion. Chains that can't be seen but are felt and keep us trapped in prisons of our own distorted minds and broken reason.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        The reason is mainly logics. While you could poison the water supply, you'd need a lot trucks pouring poison for it to have any effect at all. To torch down a building you need to carry enough gasoline that you'll be spotted by any half decent camera before you can start (even the kyoani fire was prevented from going off as it was supposed to). Setting up bombs requires enough explosives and detonators that the vast majority are arrested at home, assuming they don't blow themselves up by accident. And organizing terrorist groups without a rich and/or powerful backer is difficult.

        The point of super tech is that it's both powerful and inconspicuous enough that a single individual can level buildings before any law enforment realizes what happened.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous
      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        The reason this doesn't happen more is because if you do this a bunch of people with guns will try to kill you and if they aren't able to, they will send more people with bigger guns until they succeed.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Calm down, Glowie-kun.

  11. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Because Pixar are a bunch of exceptionalist elitist homosexuals and the idea of the profane being even considered to be on the same level as the superiors disgusts them.

    If it was a roundabout way of saying technology will steal what makes us special and render it trash like AI repacing everything and they rejiggered that embarassingly fricking stupid plot and deeply immoral unstated moral sure.

    But they didn't. And you'd have to rewite this idiotic shitheap from the ground up.

    I LOVE what they did with incredibles 2 with the open admission of how dangerous and powerful media is and admission that hypnosis and mindcontrol are real and work.
    Sort of explains why the media shit on it and reacted so poorly towards it however.

  12. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >morons still missing the very simple point

    WHEN EVERYONE IS SPECIAL, NOBODY IS SPECIAL

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      And?

  13. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    If it's one thing I've learned, it's that the scientists, inventors and businessmen that actually create technologies that emulate powers and shares it with the rest of humanity in the superhero settings are REALLY evil bad guys because how dare they actually equalize those who are powerless to those who were merely born with powers.

    Marvel and DC wants to have their cake and eat it too, and the only "good" guys who use technology to grant them superpowers are also the ones who refuse to share it with anyone else. Can't actually have their special snowflakes deal with competition, right?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of mid tier villains are guys who made some amazing world changing invention, but then decided to only use it to rob banks.

      Vulture made a hand portable flying device
      Wizard also invented hand portable antigravity
      Melter invented an actual deatomizer
      Mirror Master invented actual safe and reliable portal technology
      Matter Master invented safe and reliable energy to matter transforming technology
      Kraven discovered how to perfectly simulate super soldier serum with naturally growing herbs

  14. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    He was going to sell them. He basically was going to be a superpowered arms dealer.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Everything is sold.

  15. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >And when I have my fun I'll sell them to THE HIGHEST BIDDER
    He wasn't going to sell it to the common man, he was going to be part of the Military Industrial Complex.Besrt case scenerio he was going to sell mechs to the American government to bomb random schools and hospitals in the middle east. Worst case scenerio he would still do the former plus sell really faulty unfinished mechs to random Warlords in Africa.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      He is probably already a major arms dealers to various dictators around the world in the first place. He likely has a bodycount before we get around to the dead supers.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Considering he owns a tropical island and employs hundreds if not thousands of henchmen, I'm pretty sure this is the case. I don't know if they flat out say it, I haven't watched the movie in a while.
        I really should watch it again, threads like these remind just how fricking good this film is

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >He is probably already a major arms dealers
        He outright says early on that he made his fortune selling his inventions.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          The probably part of that statement was the fact that he "probably" sold his shit to African dictators and warlords. Not that he was "probably" the very thing he said he was in the film.

          Learn reading comprehension

  16. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    His real crimes were the whole "superhero meat grinder island" thing and unleashing the result of that on innocents just so he can play hero. I also have doubts that a glory-seeking butthole like him would truly be giving superpowers to everyone.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      He literally said out loud he would though. He considered that the ultimate bictpry on Bob for being born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
      The Incredibles were the glory-seeking buttholes who glorified using their powers to dunk on normies who weren’t born with them. Like cheering on Dash to beat all the kids who had to work hard to get fast at a race.

  17. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >conveniently leaves out he had dozens of supers killed, as well as who knows how many civilians

  18. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Are you telling me NO superhero before Bob thought “oh hey I should make it destroy itself”

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's shown in the Kronos scene that the Omnidroid was defeated multiple times, only to be rebuilt and adapted from its previous fight. So, by the time Bob fought it, it was practically indestructible to anything except itself.

  19. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    He wants to SELL superpowers to everyone. Basically an arms dealer.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I bet he would love to give everyone the ability to fly and super strength just to spite mr.incredible.

  20. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    OP's missing the rest of what he said. Syndrome said that when he was old and after he's had his fun is when he'll sell his inventions to everyone. So for starters examining that quote, he's planning on keeping that technology and power to himself for a while until he's at the point in his life where he doesn't need it. He also says he's going to sell them, meaning its still going to be the richer people of the world who will benefit the most, while the poorer people will likely not actually be able to afford them and will be subject widening power gap between them and the upper class. And Syndrome probably isn't going to worry about that or the likely effect of selling dangerous, unregulated technology to the masses because he'll be old and secure enough in his own fortune that he'd just live out the remainder of his life not caring what others happen because the guy is still a proven sociopath, not caring about the terror he'd put others through so long as he was the one that came out on top.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      If he sold the gauntlet some other company is going to reverse-engineer it and make it cheaper so that everyone can afford one

  21. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

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    Fear my soapy Justice

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

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      I can just censor anyone and anything I don't like? Welp, call me The Propagandist!

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

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      I'd probably be The Band, or BandMan or something.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        if you were buddhist you'd be nirvana the band

  22. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    He built a robot to kill superheroes and kept modifying it until it won.

  23. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, he is a socialist hero.

  24. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Ultimately he was right, but Brad Bird had a hardon for Randian philosophy so Bob had to have the moral highground. Imagine Supers as being born with fully automatic weapons for arms and then deciding they should be the ones to have the monopoly on force, it's actually insane that the "normals" should just accept their lot as being sheep with no agency.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Oh no, this small part of the population can do things I cant. I HAVE LOST ALL MY AGENCY. I AM BUT A SHEEP
      Your silly.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >normal tries to level the playing field
        >that small part of the population interferes to stop you from doing this, and kills you
        Your agency? Lost.

  25. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >forget that he killed people for just a minute, hear me out

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      The show made a fricking casual joke about a man dying because he got sucked into a jet engine by his cape.

      The show treats lives casually. Like they are nothing.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        but I won't

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          But you don't care about how many lives would be saved by his technology.

          Nor did Mr.Incredible or his supposedly morally righteous wife make that point either.

          Anon, they used those deaths as a way to push the very idea of euality of any level being bad because some people should just be treated as special.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            spare me your fanfiction, moron.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              Making a point that makes your and the shows moral complete bullshit is not fanfiction it's pointing out the flaw in their bullshit.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >But you don't care about how many lives would be saved by his technology.
            If he cared about using his tech to save lives he could have easily done that literally years before the movie even started.

  26. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    if the so-called benevolent goal is to give people superpowers then why is he killing the already superpowere- oh wait it's about culling and petty revenge nvm

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      If he never killed supers, the people they laugh at for dying and make fun of it, then what would be the bad deal.

      I notice how none of you brought up how he decided to kidnap their superskrull tardbaby.
      Because you know it's to make him and this his bullet proof reasoning and ultimately atruistic goal seem bad by association.

  27. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >be buddy
    >be worlds smartest “normal”
    >try to become your idols sidekick
    >he tells you to frick off after you almost get yourself and a bunch of other people killed
    >spend the rest of your life hating supers
    >frick off to a random island and live in obscurity
    >murder a bunch of supers with a killer robot despite them already being illegal
    >plan to send your killer robot into a city so you can get credit for stopping it
    >be worshipped as the worlds last “super” for decades
    >sell tech when you’re too old to play iron man
    Dude blatantly didn’t care about anyone but himself and was driven mainly by spite

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >be worlds smartest “normal”
      I bet he wasn't a normal he was a sups gifted with super intelligence

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        intelligence is just something everyone can have. Has a relationship with genetics, yes, but no matter the genes you have to educate yourself and learn from other people just like every other human.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      that's 'tism for you

  28. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    He wasn’t thinking in the long term. Yeah everyone has powers but that means EVERYONE has powers. Shit would hit the fan immediately and the world would be a frickin war zone 24/7

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >the world would be a frickin war zone 24/7
      that's basically what all superhero stories turn into regardless of how uncommon superpowers are

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Fair enough but it would still be slightly worse imo. Everyone wouldn’t have the same amount of time spent honing their powers as the actual heroes did

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          honing powers would just be a basic fact of life like learning to drive in that scenario. there'd be an entire education system for it. the most unstable scenario is probably actually 1-5% supers - enough to cause a lot of damage, not enough to create much bespoke infrastructure for training/containing them

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            So what you’re saying is if Syndrome won the world would basically become MHA

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Like how every country that has guns is a warzone?
      Or every place that has cars is Twisted Metal?

  29. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I think it was more the "unleash a giant city wrecking robot so you can stage a fight to stop it for popularity" part that made him a bad guy.
    Also the fact that he used his learning hero slaying robot to do the staging with and didn't have any contingency if it did the obvious thing and shut down it's weakness he was using against it.

  30. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    You do realize he's a maniac wannabe arms dealer who likely had total control of the weapons he was going to sell right?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      would you NOT want to have control over the weapons you sell?

  31. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Woah

  32. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    He's a true capitalist and just wanted to devalue his competition unfortunately he had an ego about things.

  33. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Third movie has him alive, reveals he faked his death.
    >Creates a new device that steals powers from heroes and turns it into a drinkable potion
    >Plans to sell them to people
    >Gives Mind Control goggles from the second movie to the buyers and creates an army of villains

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      That actually sounds kinda cool

  34. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    If he upgrades the robot each time to address what destroyed it previously, why were its claws still hard enough to penetrate the main body at the end? Either improve the armor or slightly weaken the claws.

  35. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >narcissistic
    >complex Napoleon that's why he's drawn with small stature
    >wants everything for himself
    >he did it because his favorite hero wasn't what he imagined
    >Incredibly intelligent he probably has superpowers without even knowing it
    The movie is great but it has a final boss syndrome (no pun intended), and god the final fight drags in the third act.

  36. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Makes a homelander + soldier boy character long before amazon
    >Didn't use him to make a story to show how superheroes can be corrup and evil
    Pixar can be dumb sometimes

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Did you start reading comics yesterday?

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