Was he really that bad, or did James Gunn just gaslight everyone into hating him?

Was he really that bad, or did James Gunn just gaslight everyone into hating him?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He got better. The hate was unjustified.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was fine at his best(mainly during 13 ghosts) and a little annoying at his worst, definitely hate how they can’f let the joke of everyone hating him die and just bring him back, he could be a great addition for a future show if retooled

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was annoying and stupid. Even when I was a kid, I remember I kept wondering why the frick they bothered to keep pulling his dumb ass out of the fires he constantly threw himself into. He actively made things WORSE and more difficult for the people who were supposed to be his friends, because he was too fricking stupid to NOT go running off headfirst into obviously suicidal situations. He was stupid, reckless, and impulsive, and didn't give a shit about anybody else, only about his own big head and stupid ego.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I didnt watch the cartoon

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >obviously suicidal situations.
      He threw a real monster into a volcano. They should have let him at em.

      >stupid ego
      His whole schtick is that he thinks Scooby is the best, strongest, bravest guy around. I don't know where the ego thing comes from.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The core team of Mystery Inc. works fine as is, he's just kind of unnecessary

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frankly I was more bothered by Fred, Velma and Daphne exiting the main cast for most of the Scrappy seasons

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They were usually superfluous really, most of the time we followed who Scooby was with, which usually meany Shaggy

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well I mean yeah anyone outside the OG five is superfluous but scrappy was young and scrappy like me as a tyke.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was shit and anyone saying otherwise is either a newsperm or a contrarian

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Scrappy was fine when he was with the entire gang, during the cartoon movies and 13 Ghosts.

    He gets a lot of undeserved hate, but I'm not sure what James Gunn has to do with it.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was already coming in at a time that Scooby's audience was moving on, and people would rather believe (through a nostalgic lens) that he was the cause of them leaving Scooby behind rather than the overall stagnation of the franchise. Scooby Dum was ten times worse than Scrappy.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What even is this strawdog? Scooby Dum was in 4 episodes. Scrappy Doo was in 60.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        If it's a question of 'does Scrappy deserve to be the most hated character,' I respond with Dum.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every kid I knew loved Scooby Dum and absolutely hated Scrappy. And so did I.

      People who say "Scrappy wasn't that bad" weren't kids at the time the show was original run.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I liked Scrappy's first season tough guy voice, after that he was kind of a nerd.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >People who say "Scrappy wasn't that bad" weren't kids at the time the show was original run.
        People who watched the shows original run weren't kids when Scrappy came on.

        People aged out of Scooby-Doo and blamed it on Scrappy rather than realise they weren't in the target demographic anymore.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't that internet-era thinking tho?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Scrappy has existed since the 90's and hating the childhood thing you liked changed has existed since at least the concept of childhood.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >People who say "Scrappy wasn't that bad" weren't kids at the time the show was original run.
        Scrappy was actually well liked when the show was was originally run:
        >Viewership seemed to react positively to Scrappy, as Scooby's ratings went up with Scrappy's arrival. The character continued to be a success for the next decade

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The hate is unjustified.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I disliked him when they introduced him into the original series, along with Scooby-Dum and whatever other unecessary characters they added.
    He was redeemed somewhat in 13 Ghosts by Flim Flam being infinitely worse, and by the time the Shaggy-centric movies came out he had grown on me.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He kind of was there. Not really a hateable character but not a particularly likable one either.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I loved him as a kid. James Gunn is a homosexual.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's fine. But if he's being sacrificed to make an infinitely funnier running joke I say that's the best outcome for him.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What funny running joke?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        ?t=29

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          That ain’t funny, it’s too overdone

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    people disliked scrappy long before gunn came along

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      True, Tim Curry turned down the Atkinson role, when he found out scrappy was not only in it but was the true identity of his character.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't like Scrappy, but even I wasn't cool with how they made him the bad guy in that movie. I've seen long-running IPs make fun of hated characters many times over the years, but that movie was just being mean.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't liked him back then. Now I don't even remember that much about him, he was annoying and that's probably all.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked Scrappy because my exposure to him were the Red Shirt Shaggy movies (Boo Brothers, Reluctant Werewolf, Ghoul School) where he filled in more of the inquisitive but combative party member. My only thing I didn't like was that he didn't sound like a kid and wanted to see him retooled to be the kid character he was intended to be. Never fricking ever with his current reputation.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    making him a main character was a bad idea, he just changed the formula too much and made everyone but shaggy redundant is some form. but as an occasional guest like the hex girls he could work as an okay foil to the gang, having a darker more morally ambiguous version of one their traits but ultimately good hearted. Dude dearly loved his uncle, that’s respectable.
    Hates understandable but a bit overblown

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Definitely unjustified hate, his character had a solid dynamic especially with his uncle Scooby. I remember my friends and I all liked him in the main series and the red shirt movies. You have to understand kids had figured out the formula and Scrappy represented them - the one who was tired of running and was just ready to face the fake monsters head on. Of course Scooby as his guardian would never let him take that chance in case something went wrong so his own cowardice sort of became recontextualized as a form of protecting Scrappy. Scooby would always run away but he would make the effort to grab Scrappy first. It was a solid representation of how kids acted and how parents treated them.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Quality post.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I personally thought he was kind of boring and to some extend unnecessary but the amount of times people referenced him because of how bad he is ironically made more people especially gen z kids grow some sympathy towards to the character

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They should have let him go fight most of the badies and the mysteries would have been wrapped up a lot faster VS having to panic and run a few times first
    >Oh Scrappy can punch the ghost? Guess he's not actually a ghost!

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    both.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >character in a young kid’s show inserted to cater to young kids draws the ire of 30 year old manchildren fans of the show

    Many such cases

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      in a young kid’s show inserted to cater to young kids who already love the show draws their ire
      Fixed that for you

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The ratings were on the verge of cancellation. Scrappy was introduced to boost ratings, which he did. Scrappy saved the series. Seethe.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >implying WB wouldn't have just kept rebooting Scooby later down the line anyway
          Cool Cat and Merlin the Magic Mouse didn't exactly save Looney Tunes, yet they're still making stuff out of that franchise.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well maybe yanks like him because they're all homosexuals with small man syndrome

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Scrappy’s second voice is fricking annoying

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody I knew liked him, but nobody I knew ever really hated him either. I honestly think most of the hate is hindsight because he is weird in the context of scooby doo where he's like too human to be dog but too dog to be human. Like how Gary Coleman used to look cute when he was a kid, but it stopped looking cute when he got older.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Scrappy himself isn't the problem with that era of Scooby-Doo, the episodes themselves are. The ones where they are actually solving a mystery with the entire gang plus Scrappy are totally fine but the vast majority of Scrappy episodes have nothing to do with mystery solving and are instead just Scooby and Shaggy doing moronic shit and getting chased by a gorilla or something. No mysteries and even when there are monsters they are just real monsters that chase Scooby and Shaggy around while Scrappy tries to fight them. It's agonizing to watch.

    13 Ghosts is decent though.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. A lot of people are forgetting the era where Scooby and Shaggy didn't even hunt ghosts but just did crap like be pizza chefs or be in a Wizard of Oz parody in Scooby's dream. Even as a kid I was confused as to why they did that shit.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. A lot of people are forgetting the era where Scooby and Shaggy didn't even hunt ghosts but just did crap like be pizza chefs or be in a Wizard of Oz parody in Scooby's dream. Even as a kid I was confused as to why they did that shit.

      These guys get it. It wasn't that Scrappy was that bad, but after the run of episodes that were just like the original show except with Scrappy, they devolved into unfunny slapstick junk. Scrappy was fine, but seeing Scrappy meant that you were most likely gearing up for a completely awful episode. A lot of people probably still carry that connection, but if you go back and watch OG Scrappy episodes or Boo Brothers, he is a fairly inoffensive character.

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    There has never been a recorded case of a character being added to "keep things fresh" that didn't result in said character being crucified for being a shit character in the end.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not true, if the character added is a new villain then there's a decent chance of them either being looked at neutrally or even having a large fanbase. Wander Over Yonder only got better when it introduced a new villain in S2.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        but even a new villain can turn out poorly, see Foop in Fairly OddParents

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody would care about Foop if he wasn't connected to Poof, who was already a "scrappy-doo" character. Foop is just a generic british evil guy, the show was already a walking corpse at that point, he barely had an effect.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        "to the main cast" was implied.

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Was he really that bad
    No, he was worse.

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Aside from the "LET ME AT EM" shit, he became a pretty competent detective.

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gunn's retcon that he was always an adult actually lessens the hate.

    Scrappy was designed to be the power fantasy of little kids and the older fans hated him for it because as 'the baby' he got away with annoying and destructive behavior within the team dynamic and nobody stopped him, nobody tried to teach him that his behavior was dangerous, they just kept letting the selfish little mutherfricker do whatever he wanted. That created resentment for viewers to all the other characters, especially if you had to deal with a younger sibling IRL.

    Gunn basically takes away all that by saying he was old enough to know better, now he's just an butthole who did what he wanted and the gang kicked him out when they got sick of him.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nobody tried to teach him that his behavior was dangerous
      It was a guy in a costume though, why not let Scrappy beat them up?

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