Was it autism?
He was a son of Abraham
You salute the rank, not the man.
Never understood why they had to shit on that character with this scene. It wasn't cathartic in any way. The fact that he didn't get the line position he wanted, and they show he had been shoved into some rear area position where he was never given responsibility or promotion again was enough. It was unnecessary and out of character for him to not salute.
Maybe. But this is where BoB’s historical element comes into play. I’m not 100% sure but it’s probable that the real-life Herbert Sobel was dickish enough to be that petty.
in the book they talked about how once they actually got into combat they were thankful for what he'd done, because they were better conditioned than anyone else.
They still hated him though. They never tried to reach out to him and never expressed their gratitude in any way until decades after he was dead.
That's not true, Bill Guarnere tried to get him to attend gatherings the group had and join their association after the war. He even paid the Sobels dues to the group. Sobel never replied to anything.
>people who straight up betrayed you, sabotaging your career, despised you and almost certainly would have straight up murdered you if you had been deployed with them get a bit remorseful
Yeah fuck them. I understand why they did it, but it's very obvious why Sobel would actively avoid them.
Sobel was a seething kike in real life so it seems very feasible
he got what was coming to him in the end
no. but some officers were just meant to be in the rear, with the gear
what is the god damn hold up captain sobel
>OH THAT DOG JUST AIN'T GONNA HUNT!
No it was a hot tub
Anyone else about to do their yearly watch soon?
Already doing it Anon. 2 episodes to go. Carenten is my favourite.
I finished my yearly watch earlier this year.
Well, when you have softies like Winters as NCOs you're kinda fucked if you don't step in yourself.
>when you have softies like Winters as NCOs
NCO is noncommissioned officer, sergeants. Winters was a commissioned officer. Fucking civvies.
Did you need a degree to be an officer back in the day?
>NCO is noncommissioned officer, sergeants. Winters was a commissioned officer
now explain how an NCO becomes an officer
NTA but battlefield commission. I think they’re very rare nowadays.
I knew a major who had one. Joined the infantry at 15, lying about his age and put coins in his pockets to pass the weight requirements. Did his 20 years got to sergeant major then got a commission so he could stay in the army another 20 years and get a double pension by 55. Spent his last few years training officer cadets and flirting with the girls
I just watched it for the first time about a month ago. is The Pacific as good?
Pacific is 100x better.
BoB suffers from the Pilpul School of Historic Recollection. BoB stands better as a circlejerk series for Boomers than anything substiantially educational or accurate. Even with the last epis*de non-accounted.
The Pacific is pure unadulterated warkino. Makes you sick by the time the show is over. No happy storybook "Le Beat the Evil Rayciss Nazzis and saved the poor little israelites!!" "Good Guys Win the battle!!" ending.
Yeah I have to agree.
The European Theatre seemed like an already solved logistics math problem where the troops played second fiddle to.
The Pacific felt more existential.
Maybe to burgers and nips. Nobody else gives a shit about it. Same as Korean war, practically ignored by everyone except the direct participants.
>t. meta cringe
Those who can't do teach
no, it was a bullet
>Because I am hard, you will not like me, but the more you hate me the more you will learn
He was unironically right in everything he did, even though his reasons for doing so were wrong. His way is the only way to train soldiers properly.
He needed to own that though. Part of doing it is the sacrifice of ever being respected by the men you do it to. They're going to hate your guts for what you put them through.
Sobel wanted to be loved but his actions made him repulsive and despised.
Sobel didn't want to be loved, he wanted to rise through the ranks. Ironically, he did everything right to achieve that. He just got fucked over by his men, although it probably wouldn't have happened if he hadn't been such a poor leader due to poor spatial awareness.
An officer doing that is cringe. That's what NCOs are for. Officers should be calm and collected.
good way to get fragged in real war too
Rosstism. That’s just how he acts
i liked these american ww2 shows as a kid, but now i cant watch them without cringing.
they are watchable if you treat them as alternate universe fanfiction or something.
I get my learnin from the interwebz
>wowow INNACURATE! AKTSCHUALLY! I'm a history buff look at me!
touch grass, have sex
He crossed the line from "harsh but fair" to just plain harsh. People love an asshole who's brave enough to lead the cavalry charge, but Sobel was just petty and a wimp.
Yes. German military academies had a long tradition of forging officers in the fires of literally weaponized autism and the US realized it needed men like Sobel to compete.
>its a blithe episode
>its a webster episode
i skip every time
If I was an officer I would be really encouraging and bullshit that every battle is our last one and then we can go home.
Almost done boys, let's take this beach and then Hitler will fold.
>Battle of the Bulge
Hurry it up fellas, drinks are on me.
The emperor is in the next cave, trust me.
It's been a long grind but I think we're about done, lads.
>I think we're about done, lads.
I for one, welcome our daimyo overlords!
No, it was malice
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