was it autism?
I went and visited the bus in Alaska, shit was not far from civilization AT ALL. How the fuck did he die?
He ate poisonous berries. I honestly don’t know what he was going for. If you want to relive your ancestral roots you need a few people at least; if you want to live on your own you get an apartment in the city
The berries were edible originally, but they went bad due to moisture allowing for mold to grow. He got careless in storing his food.
He was already out in the real world for 2 years when he went to Alaska, but his survival education was entirely focused on warmer environments. Again, he was careless. He wasn't a stupid guy, but fuck did for stupid reasons.
>but fuck did for stupid reasons.
I meant he died for stupid reasons. I swear I'm not an ESL, I'm just retarded.
According to the discovering, he apparently didn't eat anything dangerous, but due to his health at the moment, even what he have eaten turned to be life-threating in the end.
No. He was just a spoiled commie who grew up pampered by daddy's money and was tricked into believing that he was a real man who could brave the wilderness alone. Should've stayed in his cushy gated community.
There's nothing wrong with having a positive outlook on life. But he wasn't geared up and uneducated.
I personally would have documented more. If my idea is to live alone, in the wild, because I like it, I try to raise my bets to live a long life there. Not the way he did. That was just pointless imprudence. You cannot try to smoke a moose, if you have never tried it before and faced all the potential issues you could have income on doing such duty. You have to prepare yourself. He could have asked his friend (the guy of the belt) about this and made some practice, but IMO he was trying to escape even from him, for he was become more and more attached and this would have led him to remain instead of trying his trip.
The problem with intellectuals is they think their college education automatically makes them worldly and experienced in all thing and McCandles was a retard who's confidence made him thinj he could go into wilderness with almost nothing but the clothes on his back and thrive
no it was mental retardation
I got robbed and beaten once. They even took my shoes. I had no passport, no money and I was walking barefoot. But I spoke the language. There was some lady selling coffee and I got a free coffee and cigarette.
Even if I had nothing, I would be able to build something.
It was some kind of lunacy
I assume it was/is a popular cruising spot for homosexuals.
Not necessarily autism, but an idiot who went to far during his phase of being young and thinking he's deep. Too far with "we must retvrn to nature" and thinking it was super easy becuase "muh ancestors" did it, so he went without any real planning or previous experience and the result was obvious.
Sort of. I feel bad for Chris, and i also identify a bit with him. He was disillusioned and wanted to experience something big and real and challenging.
People always forget that he was doing quite well for being totally isolated in AK with scant supplies, until one little mistake led him to get unintentionally poisoned, making him too weak to drag himself out.
i absolutely wouldve banged trailer trash kstew tho
He did well by being a poacher and breaking into cabins
It was retardationspazinationdumbasseryititus, it strikes one in 765,000 annually.
Let's pretend his passion was Nascar driving...
Christopher McCandless sets off, from California in an old car he rebuilt himself (he replaced the fenders and painted it), on a trip to the Daytona 500. He only gets across the state line when he runs out of fuel because he forgot to fill it up. Instead of simply walking to the nearest gas station or flagging down help he decides to push his car over an embankment and set it on fire. He then proceeds to walk on foot to the nearest car lot (which happens to be in Mexico for some reason, mostly because he burned up his map in the car and he's been taking backroads.) He finds an old bicycle in a garbage dump and uses that.
He finally gets to the car lot and buys a fixer-upper for $50. Before leaving the car lot he has to change a tire, which he replaces with the solid rubber donut. He buys fuel and heads off to the Daytona 500 again. Only he's heading deeper into Mexico and eventually ends up broken down in front of, "Autodromo Internacional de la Jolla" due to no water in the radiator. The engine block has seized up. Luckily, there's a race about to start. Christopher...er "Alexander Superspeeder", who changed his name, pays the $125 entry fee for the race.
Unfortunately, Alexander Superspeeder doesn't have a race car. He does however have an old bicycle still. He uses the bicycle to race. He makes it only 3 laps before he is too tired to steer straight and veers off into a race car and is killed.
Some israelite picks up his story and writes a book about his life and how he followed his dreams. Another israelite makes a movie about it. Armchair racers around the world adore him.
>McCandless did not have a detailed topographical map of the region and was unaware of the existence of an abandoned, hand-operated cable car that crossed the river 1⁄2 mile (800 m) downstream from where he had previously crossed
800 meters and he could've lived, the absolute idiot madman
Reminds me of that old lady who got lost hiking and they found her body a mile and a half from the trailhead
It's a lesson in just how dangerous it is to go into the wilderness alone with no map. You can easily get lost and walk in circleds without even knowing it
I was camping with my friend once in the back of a lake in the rocky mountains and left the campfire at night to explore the woods in the dark. Found my way back just fine. I have hobbit like sense of direction.
Could have easily been snatched by a bigfoot or mountain lion though.
No just plain ol' retardation.
>When you consider McCandless from my perspective, you quickly see that what he did wasn't even particularly daring, just stupid, tragic, and inconsiderate. First off, he spent very little time learning how to actually live in the wild. He arrived at the Stampede Trail without even a map of the area. If he [had] had a good map he could have walked out of his predicament [...] Essentially, Chris McCandless committed suicide.
>Among my friends and acquaintances, the story of Christopher McCandless makes great after-dinner conversation. Much of the time I agree with the "he had a death wish" camp because I don't know how else to reconcile what we know of his ordeal. Now and then I venture into the "what a dumbshit" territory, tempered by brief alliances with the "he was just another romantic boy on an all-American quest" partisans. Mostly I'm puzzled by the way he's emerged as a hero.
an idealistic idiot, who chose to act on his idealistic idiotic ideas. We've all had a phase in our youths similar to this, but most of us never actually thought it was a good idea to act on them
He emerged as an hero, because everyone would like to throw the towel and leave the civilian town, to the wildness, thinking is like living in a house garden or in a parking hill. This is not the case. Everyone desire a life with less responsabilities, less worries and being there, with nothing, could you to lead in thinking that such life is more easy. But, again, it is not. Pratically he has been turned into an fuck-this-shit-I'm-out hero, from people who have no clues about how difficult is living out of civilization.
You forgot to include self-deluded and suffering from mental illness.
Richard Proenneke went into the Alaskan wilderness in the 1960's fully aware of the environment he was entering, documented his adventures on film, and built a historic cabin that is now a U.S. National Historic site.
McCandless basically committed a very slow and inefficient form of suicide and has been romanticized for it.
Damn how did a man in the 1960s have no children
Suicide is always a valid option than everybody should always consider. And his was very unorthodox and romantic.
>it was a suicide
agreed, it was a suicide and when facing death he had the same instinct as a someone who hangs himself and tries to undo the knot he put around his neck.
He wanted to disappear, that's why he went in the middle of nowhere.
And Proennke still had the presence of mind to get help when he knew he needed it. He didn't 100% survive in the wilderness alone, he'd ask for help on occasion depending on his situation looked
When I was his age I went camping by myself in Grizzly country (not a euphemism, its the highest Grizzly population in the lower 48 U.S.) with only a can of bearspray which I lost. There was nobody at the lake I hiked to thousands of feet up except myself.
It is autism. You fixate on doing something and can't let it go even when people tell you not to do it.
And if you had been eaten by a griz, we'd all have said you were a dumbass. He shouldn't get a pass just because his story was turned into a book and a shitty movie.
No argument here.
As for being a dumbass autistic people are called stupid their entire life even while often having above average intelligence so that's irrelevant.
There's autistic and superintelligent because the brain can't process everything and then there's so smart (booksmart) but no street smarts. Walking into the Alaskan wilderness with nothing more than good intentions qualifies as dumbass, no matter what the IQ number is, what the autism level is, what the street smart is.
Even the autistic know you need food, water, shelter, clothing, tools, and the knowhow to use them to survive in the middle of nowhere and he provided nearly none of that for himself walking in.
It's be like a guy buying a sailboat and sailing into a hurricane who had literally never stepped off of solid ground before because it looks peaceful and then being shocked when boat stars sinking.
There's a lot of places to learn as you go, but Mother Nature is a cruel and unrelenting bitch goddess who doesn't give an A for Effort.
>McCandless's desire for "being the first to explore a blank spot on the map." He continues: "In 1992, however, there were no more blank spots on the map—not in Alaska, not anywhere. But Chris, with his idiosyncratic logic, came up with an elegant solution to this dilemma: He simply got rid of the map. In his own mind, if nowhere else, the terra would thereby remain incognita.
kek, based schizo explorer
Minecraft literally would have saved his life. It's the perfect game for people who have the need to do high stakes exploring adventuring and self sustaining.
He does what everyone wishes they could do, abandon society and all its bullshit. People are just jealous he had the balls to do it even if wasn't equipped to.
How'd that work out for him again? Because, for most of us, the leaving society part is equalized by the not fucking dying by being goddamned stupid and unprepared.
It was someone who was from another culture of life, one that does not prepare you for the reality of nature
Theres a musician who did exactly what he did and he survives by his music sales and spotify, literally living the best life
This is a smart guy. He learnt from the mistakes of McCandless and is more prudent. Good for him.
What a beast, guy has my respect. Too bad they'll never make a movie out of him and instead we have to listen to israeli writers trying to convince us spoiled retarded rich kids (much like themselves) are the real heroes.
Name? I want in on that life.
Goth Babe. Kind of meh but has some catchy tunes. The best part is when he films himself surf or dirt biking with dog and friends, he lives near the Northern Pacific coast and its fucking gorgeous
All that shit in the photos is rich kids luxary iteams
You're so jealous
You're so jealous
I like my computer. This would have maybe seemed appealing when I was in high school but even then.... computer > asceticism.
A lot of naive people think that when past primitives are referred to as "hunters and gatherers" that means like a 50/50 split or something between meat and plants, when really it means their survival was entirely dependent on meat alone and the shitty plant matter is just a supplement. Vegans are incredibly stupid and should kill themselves.
In the show "The Last Alaskans" the remote bush people know to just get a moose or elk. That's the survival plan, as it has always been - go for the big game animals. Our brains are expensive, the more fat on the animal the better.
Of course I know Christopher did try to hunt and he just failed at it, but he should have had more practice at it before making his real go at survival. Just speaking generally, a lot of people are deluded about the feasibility of plants in survival scenarios. Don't rely on piss and shit eaters like Bear Grylls to be honest about it. Most plant matter is inedible or poisonous, and human evolution was fueled by hunting big game animals. That's why we're here.. Most everyone will fuck themselves up, or at least waste time and their energy stores looking for berries or mushrooms. Go cross country hiking, there's no fucking plants to eat anywhere that isn't farmed. And you don't have the senses or ability to forage all day like a bear.
So tldr: Chris should have gave up when he realized he sucked at hunting or didn't know what to do with the moose to preserve it quickly enough once he got one.
There's stupid, and then there's "try to convince the Internet how much smarter and more prudent you are than McCandless".
There's stupid, and then there's the inability to make an argument against people who just like talking about a subject.
There's no argument to be had, and you certainly didn't salvage my opinion of you with that stupid retort.
Guy was traumatized by the fact that his dad was a degenerate and that his mother allowed it. He wanted to escape society to escape degenerate. He was essentially a non violent Unabomber
Irl Slab City is more methheads than anything else. All the trailers are spaced way out apart from one another, The Range is real and locals play on Saturday nights, it's actually a fun time. There's a free library and a natural hot springs within walking distance.
I watched some IP2 people go there last year and the people they met up with to show them around seemed sinister af. Even by IP2 standards. Of course you can't accuse the community as a whole of being like that but by its nature slab city seems to be harboring some real scary people, but I guess the same can be said of any society.
There's some people who've been there a long time who are pretty cool, but yeah it's often housing random drifters and outlaws who are less cool.
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