Was the future World portrayed in The Fifth Element a dystopia or a utopia?
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Was the future World portrayed in The Fifth Element a dystopia or a utopia?
Definitely Dystopic. Look at Bruce Willis' apartment size.
it has everything, if they mass produced them homelessness would be over. But then the hedgefund groups wouldn't be able to making every american into a serf.
>they mass produced them homelessness would be over
You can't just put homeless people in apartments. Every time they try this it fails miserably. They end up trashing the place and it becomes a center for all kinds of crime and indecent shit. A lot of homeless are mentally ill and are completely incapable of taking care of themselves. There was one city that made an apartment complex for homeless people and they ended up setting a bonfire inside one of the apartments and burning the place down. Mentally insane people are not the smartest people in the world.
>You can't just put homeless people in apartments. Every time they try this it fails miserably. They end up trashing the place and it becomes a center for all kinds of crime and indecent shit. A lot of homeless are mentally ill and are completely incapable of taking care of themselves. There was one city that made an apartment complex for homeless people and they ended up setting a bonfire inside one of the apartments and burning the place down. Mentally insane people are not the smartest people in the world.
Have you considered putting mentally ill people in mental hospitals and criminals in prison moron? We're talking about normal people here.
There are very very few normal homeless people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis
These people are clinically moronic, brainwashed israelite wiener sucking Americans who think being poor is because you're evil.
>who think being poor is because you're evil.
Literally no one said that you /misc/tard. What people have said is that the reason people are homeless is because they are incapable of taking care of themselves and have no where to go. Not that they deserved it.
Learn to fricking read. But since you instantly start israelite bashing out of nowhere your ability for critical thinking is clearly missing.
Normal people aren't homeless, moron. There's something specific making them unable to care for themselves and solve their own problems. And criminals eventually leave prison, dumbass. And you're acting like there's a large amount of free mental hospitals available which will magically cure the mentally ill. No, those people will stay on the streets, and the problem will remain.
NTA, but there's a sizable number of totally normal people in US that live in cars, because they lost jobs and cannot pay rent anymore.
>sizable number of totally normal people
nearly 70% of homeless people are mentally ill. A good number of those mentally ill and regular people also would rather spend all their money on alcohol or drugs. Some people actually prefer to stay homeless than get a job and work.
Regular people just living in their cars are far from the majority of homelessness. Not saying they don't exist, but most people are homeless because they are fricked in the head in some way and there's very little we can do about it. Getting into a group home can have a waiting list for 5-6 years, so mentally ill people looking for a place to stay just have no where to go.
I think it was vancouver where my GF use to work as an animator where they shut down all the mental health hospitals and released all their patients to the streets.
So why are you making roundabout excuses then? Just give houses to the 30% and put the other 70% in mental hospitals, what's the problem?
>oh you're mentally handicapped no house for you then.
You're basically making the people that need help the most suffer the most.
What? How is a mentally ill person who gets free food and lodging and whatever care they need for their mental illness suffering? Do Americans even know what a mental hospital is?
Very few still remain. Some dumb Democrat shut down most mental institutions.
Ok and? Fix that instead of using it as an excuse not to give people housing? Have you even been reading this moronic discussion?
>Do Americans even know what a mental hospital is?
You mean those places that are incredibly hard to get into and cost a fortune? You need 24/7 staff of psychiatrists, therapists, and nurses and they are run like prisons for the people with the worst of the worst conditions.
Other alternatives for mentally ill are group homes because they require less staffing but like I said before those are also very difficult to get into and can take 5-6 years to be put on a waiting list. A lot of homeless won't go to them either because they can't do drugs or drink alcohol in them.
You know absolutely nothing about the subject.
Give less money to the israelites moron?
and now a bunch of people that manufacturer, design, transport, and maintain weapons are out of the job.
but yes, blame the israelites some more.
Oh no psychos will starve to death and you'll have a functional society.
you need to stay off /misc/. It's turning you moronic.
>you're acting like there's a large amount of free mental hospitals available which will magically cure the mentally ill
There used to be, but mental asylums were deemed "meansies and unprogressive" so they all got shuttered and the spastics were spilled out into the streets on the promise that big pharmas magic candy would keep them stable.
thanks ronald reagan, your legacy will live on.
I agree with everything you just said except that normal people cant be homeless. They can especially in countries with a shitty economy.
you are literally moronic.
Better than the sidewalk.
You could house 2 japanese families of 5 in there
People say dystopia but part of me really wants to live there.
It is just a tech dystopia. But overall it is just your normal, current world but with flying cars.
Where does he shit?
In the movie the shower raised into the roof, I'm assuming the toilet is underneath it, which makes sense and cuts down on plumbing.
The fridge was under the shower though
Oh, it's been a while since I actually watched it. Maybe he just went in the shower and it has like a garbage disposal to... no, I'm gonna stop there.
Far right, there's a door with a blurred glass window, probably similar to an airplane bathroom judging by the size, but with the toilet only.
i wonder if he ever dropped his keys into that gap between the floor and the shower elevator
Put an 80" TV in there, hook it up to a nice computer and add the internet, and this would be perfectly fine.
lmao even a robot cop in blade runner 2049 has a bigger apartment than a cab driver in that forsaken universe.
Still bigger of what most of the next generation will be permitted to have.
Where is the toilet?
I would absolutely live here.
Do you not see the window?
Does every apartment come with its complimentary crushed soda can?
Worth it for the view.
There's already smaller rooms than that where people are forced to live. Like the coffin rooms in Hong Kong or those capsule apartments and capsule hotels in Japan.
The building still exists in tokyo. I think they were trying to tear it down. All those in-built electronics are either no longer working or unnecessary.
IMO, I'd say keep it, but housing space is probably a big issue in Tokyo, so no wonder they want to take it down.
Let me guess, you need more?
from "Il ragazzo di campagna (1984)"
It was a dystopia based on the belief that the population would soar to 10 or 11 billion. Truth is it looks like the population of the earth is in terminal decline with birth rates dropping below replacement everywhere.
Except Africa.
Africa will collapse without help from outside because they are unable to produce enough without outside intervention.
They do not possess high enough IQ's to maintain functioning civilisations above a certain number of people.
it was dystopian, but it was also still more utopian than our current real dystopia.
Multipass.
multipussy
You get fresh thai food made right at your window from a floating ship. Then you can hop in your floating car and fly all around the city. Place was a Utopia.
i think its actually both.
the fashion and everyones so pretty, that it suggests freedom and a beautiful place to share with. But then you get a lot of g0rbage and a block 5000 and that is a future where paper does not exist. so i guess the message is, you make a paradise within a dystopia.
well, the garbage was because the trash aliums were on strike
how in the world did you find that?? haha
i thought the citiy is just overcrowded and they use big spaces, and that friendly flight attendent is just polite.
hardly anything nicer for a /tv than watching something repeatedly to get immersed and years later still getting unexpectedly an easter egg.
i think he got himself some treat, after getting fired and troubles. i bet that chinese guy has his own ressources, as they have a tight community. the others are probably eating lots of nutrient-dense food that can be heated up, as they dont seem to have a kitchen.
a mixture of vegetable and artificial proteins, hydrolized and shrunken.
It's in the behind the scenes stuff from the DVD's. They had planned on having these trash collecting aliens in the background but ended up cutting them for I think time reasons.
imagine you look up an almanach made by aliens and you see under your species "garbage collector" lol
its chickan gud
good ol' earth tradition
>others are probably eating lots of nutrient-dense food that can be heated up, as they dont seem to have a kitchen.
The insta-turkey microwave where you just add few drops of magic juice probably takes care of that.
https://fifth-element.fandom.com/wiki/Garbage_Collectors
I was on a Fifth Element kick and wanted to know about the deleted scenes and behind the scenes stuff. The Garbage Collector aliens were going to be a bigger part of the movie but were cut down to almost nothing.
>how in the world did you find that?? haha
Not that anon, but back when I watched it in childhood not in English, these background strike posters were translated in the most well-known translation, so this part of the plot / setting is pretty common knowledge (among people who remember the plot).
utopia for the rich
dystopia for the poor
It wasn't really either explicitly. It was just a topia.
All the water was gone
What do they eat? Can't be that many Chinese boats flying around for lunch.
yummy Golden Menus
It is like those NSFW CYOA where you can take a setting like dystopic future and lewdify it. One thing I hated in the cyberpunk game was how, safe it felt. Sure, it had the token joytoys and sex toys lying around, but outside of that, it felt very santitized. I wanted to see more morale degradation, sex is a cheap commodity, etc. The fifth element felt more sexulized than cyberpunk.
First disappointment was with cup sizes. Out of curiosity I checked, and it was:
>Small - A cup
>Medium - B cup
>Huge - C cup
There were women working in that game that had bigger breasts than a measly C cup.
I suspect they were going to make it a lot more degrading considering you had a nude character creator and could choose your sex organs, but I think microsoft and sony made them sanatize it for it to go on consoles. I really hate the morale police in entertainment.
Welcome to Neom, The Line.
lower sea level? where did all the water go?
Water level dropped, didn't disappear. Which kinda makes sense if you break the enclosed ecosystem of Earth by implementing mass galaxy travel.
Better than WH40k where all the water on Earth is just gone.
Apparently they shipped the water off-world to terraform other planets. Besson didn't want it explained directly in the movie.
I'd like the source of these HQ renderings good sir
It's from the movie when they take off in the shuttle
No, I remember the scene. The resolution seems too large even for a 4K screengrab, so I was wondering if movie creators have uploaded these somewhere.
This particular one is from Rebbit https://www.reddit.com/r/fifthelement/comments/172mxxf/fifth_element_the_desktop_wallpaper/
Thanks
In the fifth element world all the female workers have amazing breasts and tight abs. Even the fast food workers and secretaries.
Utopia.
why do they have bridges still if all the cars can fly?
they kept most of the landmarks. They even kept Central Park but it's also on a giant tower in the air
>pretty women working jobs instead of just being a bunch of shameless do-it-yourself pornprostitutes
Well they got that part wrong.
could be a plastic surgery or cloning situation.
>Oh, please. That doesn't even sound like him! The President's an idiot, you don't sound like an idiot. If you don't wanna talk to your mother, just avoid me like usual, huh? I'll just throw myself in traffic. I'll just Saran Wrap myself to the bed and pretend my child is suffocating me...
This movie was absolute masterclass in worldbuilding. The shit they crammed into 1.5 hours of runtime was impressive.
they did a lot of practical work for Fifth Element
a mix of both, just like our current world
Dystopia obviously.
Manhatten in the background by the way.
100% Utopia
it is a dystopia as far as any city is but you can also go to other planets and see other worlds, not every planet is like the megacity of earth, hell not every scene on earth is a megacity hellhole.
honestly if you can just straight up leave the shitty place for something nicer is it really a dystopia? especially when it is a larger scale thing with planetary travel
Probably depends on how much was that ticket for that Opera starcruiser. It was a lottery prize after all.
cruses and operas are usually luxury products, I dont expect a one way trip to a terriforming planet would cost as much.
Fruitopia just from pic related alone
Except he's one of the straightest men in the movie.
Ruby Rhod was shown fricking one of the flight attendants
He was eating her out aggressively.
I didn't understand when I watched this in theatres.
he blew up Korben Dallas!!
He’s just a French flavored version of absurd cool taking 80s trends into the extreme future
He was based on Prince who very much matched that aesthetic
He was far ahead of his time, males being as feminine as possible so that they can not intimidate women and get sex.
He's a flaming heterosexual, like Prince
>'straightest'
>posts webm of him calling a guy a 'stud muffin'
Honestly it's better than current day architecture and fashion
Is there a school you can go to learn how to do this kind of work?
Seems more like it was all passed down generation to generation and is a dying, soon to be lost art. Which sucks, because it looks FAR better than current all CGI scenes
A workforce like this is illegal to have in current year.
notice anything?
I had a friend doing both the beaux art and art-deco schools of Paris. The thing is once inside you can follow whatever attires you, so I supose that if you are into miniatures and dioramas and such you can always do that. Don't expect any teacher to teach you exactly about it, but you probably can get a lot of tangential advice
yeah but good luck since it is cut throat with a dwindling market that has been shrinking for 30 years. at this point the only people keeping the practice up are richgays who see it as a pet project
It was the best you can expect, given the machines ruling the world.
>You want some more?
Was he supposed to have been green screened on a face or something?
>a dystopia or a utopia?
Neither
It seems like a pretty comfy normal world but in the future.
It's not really that comfy for the everyday, "normal", low class, person. You can't afford much, most of your life is automated bite sized portions of slop, police can come in at any time, look directly into your tiny closet size home, and you better be placing your hands on the wall and doing everything they tell you or they can enter, beat your ass, and haul you to jail
>Me Fifth Element
>Supreme Being
>Me protect you
<3
>mfw meeting Leeloo
they dont make 'em like this anymore boys
AZIZ, LIGHT!
A lot of these chicks only looked decent because they werent fat. Was only like 2 actually hot ones.
It shows how far being not-fat and dressing nicely goes for women.
McDonald's should switch to these uniforms.
>Was the future World portrayed in The Fifth Element a dystopia or a utopia?
Yes.
>Was the future World portrayed in The Fifth Element a dystopia or a utopia?
It can be many things simultaneously.
North Korea is a israelite-Created israelite-Controlled starvation brainwashing camp.
India is a literal shit hole full of shit goblins.
Africa (and every black populated nation) is a cannibal rape wonderland.
Now, let's look at it from the monsters point of view...
Africa is paradise if you're a cannibal rapist of babies.
India is a paradise if you love eating poop and being covered in flies.
North Korea is a paradise if you're a israelite.
People that strongly dislike horrible conditions of existence usually seek to change such conditions. Those who ABSOLUTELY LOVE living is psychopath hunting zones will ABSOLUTELY REPLICATE such hellholes in every place they migrate to unless they are burned alive by those who do not desire to live in hellholes.
For example, women, the world over love importing cannibal baby rapers and poop eaters. THAT IS FEMINIST PARADISE. If a civilized safe zone of existence arises, women of all races will flock there to ensure it is destroyed and the male creators of such civilized safe zones are betrayed, belittled, and tortured to death.
That is the endgame of all subhumans.
"To spread their cultures".
Like septic infections rotting and poisoning a healthy body.
Congratulations on having an accurate understanding of humans and the world itself. I'm serious. Very few get it and most would kill themselves if they even could process it.
Neither, it's just a really cool place to live where everyone is hot and dressed by Gaultier
It was taking the lifestyle and expectations of the 90s which were massively superior to the lifestyle of a person in 2024 and extending that 90s lifestyle into a way more technologically advanced setting with a mild increase in dystopic elements. Compared to modern times, it appears downright utopic. They have intergalactic casual vacations. They have medical technology that is off the charts. They have mostly diplomatic relations with alien civilizations. The government in that movie appears downright ethical compared to the U.S. oligarchy and even Zorg's company, which is portrayed as extremely evil, isn't that much different than quite a few companies operating today. Let's not even get into how normal black people are in that movie. They all have jobs, they seem to have a work ethic, they seem to get along fine with white people. Compare that to the absolute chaos of our current world. So all in all, it's a little more dystopic than the 90s, but with a huge technological trade off which makes it utopic compared to 2024.
Not every futuristic depiction has to be a utopia or dystopia. Sometimes it's just like society now but slightly more advanced
its a utopia compared to where we're headed, the present is pretty dystopic already.
A shartopia.
It’s the president’s aide for me and she’s aged very gracefully. She’s also the big eyed chick who delivers baby Kirk in Star Trek 09
Cute!
Everyone has their own personal chicken enlarger, what do you think?
Mix. The French gave us the concept of Used Future. George Lucas implemented it to film. The Japanese use it as their standard.
it's a coomtopia