Not quite. The main character is a good guy, just hidden under layers of hard-bitten cynicism. The noir’s events give him a glimmer of hope that he might actually find good in the world. But in the end he’s just not good enough to overcome the scumminess of the world and ends up calloused beneath another layer of cynicism.
Gilda is my favorite.
Born To Kill is cool and notable for starring a young Lawrence Tierney better known as Old Joe in Reservoir Dogs. there's an early scene that the RD ear scene seems to be based on, with the radio playing feel-good pop music during a brutal murder
i did recently >The Maltese Falcon >Woman in the Window >Laura >Murder My Sweet >Scarlet Street
mixed bag but claire trevor is insanely hot
any other classic era film noir with attractive actresses?
Thin Man, while based, is decidedly not Film Noir, it's a fairly conventional 1930s murder mystery whose characters are as black and white as the film stock.
True Film Noir has to be, for lack of a better word, "edgy"; it can't be standard Hollywood fare. Contrary to what
To be Noir there can be no good guys and no one can have a happy ending.
said, you can have good guys happy endings, but they have to be tempered by a degree of cynicism and pain and seedy realism. For example, Casablanca is NOT a film noir - not because it's a war movie instead of a detective movie, or because Rick Blaine turns good at the end to defeat the Nazis and let Laszlo and Inga escape to America for their happy ending - but because Rick Blaine's "moral ambiguity" is totally superficial; just like Han Solo, he's really a fairy tale knight who's only pretending to be mean; even Who Framed Roger Rabbit? is more of a legitimate Film Noir than Casablanca, and that movie's in color!
My favorite film noir is actually The Black Book (aka Reign of Terror) from 1949, starring Bob Cummings, Arnold Moss, and Richard Basehart. It's actually set during the Reign of Terror of the French Revolution, and involves a conspiracy by Maximilien Robespierre (played by Basehart) to consolidate his dictatorship in the new regime in which virtually every significant figure in the Revolutionary Committee is going to be purged, and it's the character played by Bob Cummings' job to find his shitlist (the Black Book) by any means necessary, including cold-blooded murder of his fellow Jacobins in Robespierre's inner circle to expose Robespierre's plot.
The reason you're pathetic is because of your life choices and general cowardice, not your height. I don't really care how short people feel about that.
No? I'm not the one with a problem anon. I did pretty alright in my life, all things considered. I'm not without my own emotional quirks but I managed to bootstrap myself into a pretty comfortable and decent life with some good friends and a wife to share my bed.
When I see someone who clearly has nothing fixating on some posturing, fictional attitudes about manliness, it just makes me roll my eyes. It's so sad to see people cope this way.
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>slave looks down on master because he's not a slave too
I look it up every time I see a genre tv show do a “time/space computer/magic typewriter etc got us stuck in a noir and we have to play it out”.
However, I can’t ever find a list of the films which play in the show’s “classic noir film festival” list of fake movies.
Like there’s Maltese falcon but then what are the classics?
MF is the one with the opaque PI door right? But are there more films?
Double Indemnity
The Third Man
Sunset Boulevard
White Heat
The Big Sleep
The Maltese Falcon
, a few more are:
Out of the Past
Detour
The Man Who Cheated Himself
Murder, My Sweet
He Walked By Night
D.O.A.
Kiss of Death
Two of a Kind
Naked City
Johnny Stool Pigeon
I don't get the hype for Laura or The Big Heat. Maybe they were so influential that the plot points became a norm, I don't know. But I didn't like them much.
>Black movie
I ain't watching your Black person filth, fils de pute
To be Noir there can be no good guys and no one can have a happy ending.
Not quite. The main character is a good guy, just hidden under layers of hard-bitten cynicism. The noir’s events give him a glimmer of hope that he might actually find good in the world. But in the end he’s just not good enough to overcome the scumminess of the world and ends up calloused beneath another layer of cynicism.
i just watched sin city ive met my noir quota for the year
I did anon, now what?
Dick Powell > Humphrey Bogart
based
a former comedian was a better noir lead than that manlet
lol no
the maltese falcon
the big sleep
What are some Film Noir essentials?
Double Indemnity
The Third Man
Sunset Boulevard
White Heat
The Big Sleep
The Maltese Falcon
shoot me some films bro other than this list
Gilda is my favorite.
Born To Kill is cool and notable for starring a young Lawrence Tierney better known as Old Joe in Reservoir Dogs. there's an early scene that the RD ear scene seems to be based on, with the radio playing feel-good pop music during a brutal murder
i did recently
>The Maltese Falcon
>Woman in the Window
>Laura
>Murder My Sweet
>Scarlet Street
mixed bag but claire trevor is insanely hot
any other classic era film noir with attractive actresses?
Pushover w/prime Kim Novak and Dorothy Malone
>Kim Novak
sold! but first the killers with ava gardner
Veronica Lake was so gorgeous, such a tragic story.
Drugs?
Schizophrenia
I love jerking to dead cel and pornstars.
Watched her in I married a witch, jerked off for a month to it. It was also funny
Does this movie count? saw this for the first time it was great!
Thin Man, while based, is decidedly not Film Noir, it's a fairly conventional 1930s murder mystery whose characters are as black and white as the film stock.
True Film Noir has to be, for lack of a better word, "edgy"; it can't be standard Hollywood fare. Contrary to what
said, you can have good guys happy endings, but they have to be tempered by a degree of cynicism and pain and seedy realism. For example, Casablanca is NOT a film noir - not because it's a war movie instead of a detective movie, or because Rick Blaine turns good at the end to defeat the Nazis and let Laszlo and Inga escape to America for their happy ending - but because Rick Blaine's "moral ambiguity" is totally superficial; just like Han Solo, he's really a fairy tale knight who's only pretending to be mean; even Who Framed Roger Rabbit? is more of a legitimate Film Noir than Casablanca, and that movie's in color!
No def not but the thinman series are absolute kino and must watch
Recs?
My favorite film noir is actually The Black Book (aka Reign of Terror) from 1949, starring Bob Cummings, Arnold Moss, and Richard Basehart. It's actually set during the Reign of Terror of the French Revolution, and involves a conspiracy by Maximilien Robespierre (played by Basehart) to consolidate his dictatorship in the new regime in which virtually every significant figure in the Revolutionary Committee is going to be purged, and it's the character played by Bob Cummings' job to find his shitlist (the Black Book) by any means necessary, including cold-blooded murder of his fellow Jacobins in Robespierre's inner circle to expose Robespierre's plot.
Double Indemnity
watch it?
I LIVED it
Is that Lana Turner? I'm an idiot and don't know.
No
thanks, anon.
Which film noir femme fatale had the biggest boobs?
want to watch more films but too busy for work. haven't watched anything since last month
>Shield For Murder
Nice
actually the recent Marlowe movie was pretty cool
>Moronica Lake
cant take bogart seriously since he's a 1.60 midget
you've never even touched a woman so I don't understand this cope
how does that change the fact that manlets are pathetic?
The reason you're pathetic is because of your life choices and general cowardice, not your height. I don't really care how short people feel about that.
>The reason you're pathetic is because of your life choices and general cowardice
projecting?
No? I'm not the one with a problem anon. I did pretty alright in my life, all things considered. I'm not without my own emotional quirks but I managed to bootstrap myself into a pretty comfortable and decent life with some good friends and a wife to share my bed.
When I see someone who clearly has nothing fixating on some posturing, fictional attitudes about manliness, it just makes me roll my eyes. It's so sad to see people cope this way.
>slave looks down on master because he's not a slave too
film noir isn't a genre, it's just stories about tragic heroes, and tragic heroes make for the best movies.
Already do. Showed my friend Double Indemnity a couple weeks back
I look it up every time I see a genre tv show do a “time/space computer/magic typewriter etc got us stuck in a noir and we have to play it out”.
However, I can’t ever find a list of the films which play in the show’s “classic noir film festival” list of fake movies.
Like there’s Maltese falcon but then what are the classics?
MF is the one with the opaque PI door right? But are there more films?
These are good ones to start with
, a few more are:
Out of the Past
Detour
The Man Who Cheated Himself
Murder, My Sweet
He Walked By Night
D.O.A.
Kiss of Death
Two of a Kind
Naked City
Johnny Stool Pigeon
I picked this up a while back. These are all classics of the genre
I don't get the hype for Laura or The Big Heat. Maybe they were so influential that the plot points became a norm, I don't know. But I didn't like them much.