>we are NOT LEAVING without the data of this uninhabitable planet humanity couldn't even colonize without getting sweeped by 200 feet tall waves
wtf was his problem
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>we are NOT LEAVING without the data of this uninhabitable planet humanity couldn't even colonize without getting sweeped by 200 feet tall wav...
This was the same woman who thought love was the sixth dimension. They should've let her die.
>the sixth dimension
It's the fifth. Or rather it's an expression of human consciousness along the fifth dimension.
But it was and it's how Coop saved everyone. Deal with it.
turned the flick off at this profoundly stupid line. no idea how it ends and idc
the aliens were humans from the far future that are in dimensions we can't comprehend and they do some shit to help Coop save humanity and get them to where they are now.
Brandt lived and found a colonizable planet.
>no idea how it ends and idc
Bullshit. You know, homosexual. Here is your (you.)
Yeah, but she was right, Cope chose the other planet for muh science and got another member of crew killed.
>Cope
Indeed
Reminds me of that Donnie Darko line about God's imperative or some stupid shit. Stopped watching there, too.
bump
I hated that line until I grew older. Now I realise she's right
You became a homosexual then. I liked Intestellar when I was in college and saw it for the first time. Now I realize Nolan is just a hack
You lost your braincells doing meth and fent in college. Sorry to hear that.
then that means hate is the 7th dimension and thus more powerful than you can ever imagina
>planet has time dilation
>scientists don't realize what this means until they are standing in the water
Dilate
Dilate planny
did they actually say the planet causes that. wouldn't put it past nolan to include something that stupid.
no they didn't. they said it was the black hole. but I'm not sure that even makes sense
It does make sense but that is an insane ratio of time dilation. You would have to be basically inside a black hole that is even bigger than gargantua to experience that much.
obv idk what im talking about, im not a nerd anything, but wouldnt that make the character in orbit aging 20 something or whatever year even more nonsensical since he also should've been experiencing time dilation from the black hole and experienced time the same as the people on the planet?
>guy in orbit sees wave as unmoving mountain so time goes very fast for him
>guy on planet see wave as fast wave so time is supersloooow for him
wtf
You're absolutely right lol.
People comparing this steaming pile to something like 2001 are idiots.
I think the idea is that the surface of the planet is closer to the gravity well of the black hole while the ship is in geostationary orbit. The planet is in between the ship and the black hole. When close the black hole even those distances cause large distortions in time.
How big is the distance between the surface of the planet and being in orbit in a spaceship? A few thousand kilometers? Does that mean every few thousand kilometers time increases by 20 years? Wouldnt they already be super fricked even just being in orbit? If it were something like an entire solar system away I might buy it. But isnt the scale of space like way bigger? Im no sciencegay but the scale seems wrong.
36k km for Earth geostationary orbit. Time dilation scales with the root of the inverse radius so near massive bodies, it can be significant.
There's some weird shit where if you are entering a black hole your toes and the top of your head are so different that you get stretched out. It's called the "spaghetti effect."
What the frick has that got to do with anything?
The effects of time dilation is incredible even at minor distances. I'm sorry you're too moronic to understand some shit that was explained on Discovery Channel 30 years ago.
Reminder:
Nothing in this sequence of the film makes any sense.
The film has no idea how time dilation works, and it’s physically impossible for someone on a craft orbiting a planet to age 20-years, while the people on the planet don’t age at all.
>insane ratio
>their reasoning behind why was wrong
>time dilation is caused by the fact that the water planet is much closer to the black hole
Exactly, all reasons it does not make sense.
Also wouldn't the endurance have been in orbit around the water planet so the black guy should've experienced the same time dilation?
instead he was sitting around for like 20 years with his thumb up his ass.
>lso wouldn't the endurance have been in orbit around the water planet so the black guy should've experienced the same time dilation?
I think the black guy was meant to be outside the orbit of the water planet. A further away orbit around gargantua itself
see that doesn't make sense. I can certainly head canon it, but I don't recall any explanation in the movie.
2:17 timestamp. Cooper asks the black dude how far from the planet they need to be to stay out of the severe time dilation
ok so it's a matter of saving time.
probably because the endurance has a lower thrust to weight ratio and so the orbital insertion and escape would take longer.
but they spend decades on this mission. would a few extra days/weeks matter? these ships aren't gonna last forever so having the endurance dick around for years and years probably isn't too smart.
still not sure if it makes sense, but at least Nolan thought about it.
It does make sense, their reasoning behind why was wrong. It wasn’t due to gravity but velocity. The planet was moving so fast around its parent black hole massive time dilation was caused (which, in turn, was factor if the gravitational influence of Gargantua). We also got to see the neat phenomena of the planets apparent velocity from the perspective of the astronauts, it didn’t look like it was moving all too fast, which it would.
I'm pretty sure if the planet were moving fast enough to cause significant time dilation (like, 7 hours is 20 years), it would be ripped to shreds and become a belt of dust.
The orbital velocity wouldn't tear it apart since it's still moving through vacuum, but the tidal forces might. Can't really be certain without knowing all the exact distances and masses involved.
If the planet would be ripped apart then they wouldn't have had anything to land on in the first place. The fact that they did would suggest the planet is in a sweet spot where it exists and is effected by the forces shown in the movie.
The time dilation is caused by the fact that the water planet is much closer to the black hole, thus orbiting it at a much higher relative velocity than the other planets. The higher your relative velocity, the more time dilation you experience.
Do the actual numbers work out correctly? Probably not, but it's all fictional and there isn't any proper data to work with anyway.
The dumb part is that being that close to a black hole would cause insane tidal forces that render it uninhabitable regardless of the composition. Not to mention all the radiation. Anyone with the slightest bit of training would take one glance and strike it from the list.
There's plenty of other plot holes and inaccuracies in the movie as well.
The dumb part was the old ass shitty shuttle they took to get off earth and then they fly around in super aircrafts that can take off very easily from much more gravital forces.... Why not use that ship on earth?
There's an entire scene of the ship where they talk about it and the black scientist says something like "it will give me plenty of time to work on my experiments" or some Black person shit like that. You dumb fricking troony. Maybe if you actually paid attention to the film and not trying to finger your younger brother you'd have seen it.
They should have realized that if time moved slowly on the planet and the astronaut only left for the mission a decade ago then the astronaut would have only been on the water planet a few hours in local time.
I laughed hard when she was abandoned on the fourth planet with her crate full of fetuses that I guess she was going to stuff up her pussy, meanwhile everyone else is just living in space having a good time.
>tfw no pregnancy factory anne hathaway wife on a remote earth-like planet
why even live
she'll end up drinking them all and sending pictures back to Earth saying my planet my choice
What happens if I stick my dick inside a black hole?
You get aids from Sheniqua
At the end Coop steals a ship to go find Brand. Humans couldn’t make a wormhole yet. How did Coop get to another galaxy
>"yeah yeah, so 30 minutes on this planet is like 200 years"
>OK
>*lands*
>WAIT A SECOND, IF THEY LANDED 30 MINUTES AGO, THAT WAS 200 YEARS AGO
>holy shit we have to leave now
Bravo scientists
>Dr. Miller lands on planet
>Literally activates the "thumbs up" beacon the moment she lands
>Dies from killer tidal wave
She didn't even look at basic information before activating the beacon!
they needed the information as fast as possible since humanity was dying, every second of contemplation could mean the extinction of humanity
She got like a million seconds per second though.
I was going to make fun of you now that I think of it I think you're right.
She found a planet with breathable air and lots of liquid water, and if she was in relatively shallow water she probably assumed that there was land somewhere that a survey with more time could find.
Given the time dilation, it genuinely was a factor that she needed to signal that the planet was viable the instant that she felt it was.
The planet was orbiting a black hole or neutron star or whatever.
It was never a viable planet due to time dilation AND all the radiation.
They wouldn’t rescue her unless she said it was good
>They wouldn’t rescue her unless she said it was good
I always thought the scenarion was that thanks to time shenanigans she landed there, got immediately fricked with the first wave, and Coop landed basicaly immediately after the wave that killed her.
That's literally what happened.
I said it because I was wondering why would she sent an OK signal.
Except that doesn’t make any sense, because that’s not how time dilation works.
If a planet like that existed, it would be impossible to reach or leave, due to the insane tidal forces.
Also, it doesn’t make any sense that the time dilation wouldn’t affect a craft orbiting the planet, and not the people who land on the planet.
That’s why the film required so many quick cuts, since it doesn’t make sense.
This film exposed Nolan for truly being a dumb hack who doesn’t under Anything related to physics.
>planet is a giant ocean
>literally land in an ocean
>this looks fine *thumbs up*
was she a fish?
Not only was it a giant ocean planet it's a giant ocean that's only waist deep. How the frick does that make sense?
For some reason the massive gravitational forces and pull up huge waves, but doesn't cause massive amounts of volcanic and seismic activity. Just go with it.
The future humans who created the wormhole and tesseract also flattened all the volcanoes on miller's planet using 5th dimensional love magic and farted in matt damon's hypersleep tube so he'd be extra pissed and irrational.
She landed in waist-deep water, with an atmosphere and approximate gravity to support human life. That was probably the best planet they could ever hope for. Just build dikes and drain the water to present the land and build on it. Though, I will admit, I don't think she had time to do soil samples to see if we could grow anything so she was probably moronic on that point. At least it had a good atmosphere and liquid water though. But she also didn't do water samples I'm pretty sure...
And then yeah, she activated the thumbs-up, then like 20 minutes later a giant tidal wave rekt her.
The water was in the giant tidal waves. If it were just a regular ol' planet not next to a black hole, that water would be evenly distributed on the surface. Think of a tsunami on Earth. The tide go out before the wave hits.
>Though, I will admit, I don't think she had time to do soil samples to see if we could grow anything so she was probably moronic on that poin
Doyle said the planet had "organics". It probably meant organic compounds. So it wasn't just water.
Ah, maybe. I was mainly thinking water samples in that it wasn't ultra toxic to life as we know it. Liquid water can have all sorts of bad shit in it. I can't imagine she had time to do a full analysis of it. Wasn't it like 20 (planetside) minutes between each wave?
>Wasn't it like 20 (planetside) minutes between each wave?
It was 2 hours I think. Also, this might be a moot point. IIRC, she never sent a thumbs up. It was just some initially status data that was echoing endlessly.
>Also, this might be a moot point. IIRC, she never sent a thumbs up. It was just some initially status data that was echoing endlessly.
Actually, you might be right here. Or not actually... Frick I'm trying to remember. Why'd they choose that planet first if Matt Damon was the only one to send the thumbs up? Was it just closest to the wormhole exit? It's been a while since I saw it.
I'm saying, if she gave the thumbs up, she must have thought the whole planet was waist deep water. Given the information she had in the apparent 2 hours between waves, she didn't know the tidal waves were a thing yet, just like the crew of the movie we follow, you dumb fricking homosexual.
>Actually, you might be right here. Or not actually... Frick I'm trying to remember.
Yeah, CASE confirms that in this scene
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Are you moronic? Did you even watch the movie?
No. Yes. You're gonna have to be more specific to which part of my post you're referring.
>just drain the water, bro!
>just hold your breath when the hourly mile high waves come!
I watched this once and it was obviously made by and for morons. Blows my mind that people unironically think it's good.
samegay
I like these threads. Everyone trying to point out the film's stupidity just reveals their own.
you are a pseud
I remember being in the IMAX with my friend and both of us leaning over asking the other if they thought it was boring. We both agreed and the soundtrack was obnoxious
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kek you are stupid and didn’t understand the movie
I reveal my own what?
>my dear daughter, who hasn't seen me in 70 years, who I abandoned before either of us could understand the gravity of my decision, whom I entered a black hole for, and now is honored as the greatest scientist and savior of mankind, I'm sorry I cannot stay by your death bed, or talk with my great great great grand kids who are probably older than me, which would be the most unique experience any person ever had in history, because come to think of it I'm the most unique human being that ever lived, having survived traveling through a black hole, I can't stay and reveal the secrets of the universe to scientists, or even visit my first-born son's grave, or even meet his son, who again, is probably older than me, I have to steal a ship and go after a hank hill ass skeleton looking ass barren lady because I love her after knowing her for 6 accounting for time dilation and crysleep, did I mention she is in love with a dead guy? anyway nice knowing ya
what was his problem?
>what was his problem?
Love
The love theme is a red herring as explained by the Anne Hathaway monologue about love only for her to end up alone on a desolate planet. Man is only as real as his Will permits is the message of the film. If determinism is true then the aliens that are actually future humans who sent Cooper (allusion to Dale Cooper) on the mission to go through the tesseract would have to have necessarily done so, but Nolan’s point is that is not the case because we have Free Will.
>visit my first-born son's grave
Visit the who lmao. Fricking Nolan, is it any wonder he is close friend with Snyder?
>I have to steal a ship and go in a galaxy i have no idea how to reach now that the wormhole is closed, after my daughter suggested me to reach my mission team mate she doesnt even know about
I think Cooper died in the black hole and its all a wishful thinking dream experience. Humanity died on Earth too but the girl managed to get on the new home planet to start the human race again.
the most moronic ending to a movie I've ever seen tbh, I can't think of anything stupider. The 5d library shit me back out into saturn's orbit now I have to go fly off on some braindead idea this woman who I did a mission with is still same age as me and completely ignore my family I thought I lost forever
it's a popcorn munching ending for popcorn munching audiences. Being cheesy is not the problem, it could be cheesy but still fair and well thought out. This ending ignores the entire father daughter dynamic which is LITERALLY the central theme of the film (love united murph and dad, not dad and cat woman) in favor of 15 year old girl's idea of romantic love.
Nolan used to be smart and dare making satisfying yet non popcorn munching endings. Imagine if in Inception's last scene dicaprio is about to see his kids and turns away and goes after ellen page because he kissed her once.
i remember the first time watching this thinking that this movie was essentially perfect, and then it got the end and i was left with a sour taste in my mouth
great movie, really weak ending. oppenheimer's ending was great though
More Hugh Mann than Hugh Mann
kino name
Hey hey guys yeah hey guys how didn't they know there were massive waves before they landed?????????????????
How would they know?
Why didn't they look at the planet from orbit with one of those IMAX cameras that were always pointed at them?
By the time you're close enough to orbit the planet you're way down in the gravity well of the black hole and wasting 7 years per hour.
If they sent a probe down into the gravity well they would have to wait 20+ years for it to come back, how can you people not understand this?
>you people
you mean people who don't take theories as reality? you're a moron one day you'll realize this. hopefully you'll have some time to get right with REALITY.
>YOU DON'T BELIEVE WHAT'S WRITTEN IN BOOKS???
frick you, you mental midget. go suck off a liar like carl sagan or NDT you pseud
"You people" as in you people who are failing to understand the movie despite it laying its ideas out plainly. I wasn't expecting this insecure schizo rant.
>me smart, me listen to those who are called genius
moron
you telling me the intergalactic expedition wasn't equipped with probes that the soviet union could build in the 70s?
presumably there was a layer of clouds they prevents you from observing the ocean, they thought the waves were mountains, not to mention the fact that it would take like 200 years for the wave to move so it would look like a mountain anyway
you really defend shitty movies for free lmao. Why was a planet with extreme time dilation even be considered in the first place you morons?
Why not?
Because it doesn't matter once you've moved to the planet and it had water.
>planet has water, a breathable atmosphere, and gravity close to Earth's
You have a better one, fgt? We didn't know about the giant tidal waves until we were down there.
And yeah, I'd love to live like 5 million years Earth-time. That'd be cool.
Think of all the sweet astronomic events you'd get to experience
If one hour is equivalent to seven years on that planet how could you see them in real time from space?
Because you'd figure some super advanced spacecraft with AI robots could probably tell before Matthew Mcconaughey doing an eye test
Then again it's a Nolan hack movie
>EARTH IS ON THE VERGE OF COLLAPSE
>uh yeah let's waste decades on this planet that has severe time distortion
beyond moronic
why exactly was there the weird anti-space travel propaganda?
Because they didn't want anyone to have any unrealistic hopes of leaving earth, or for money to be poured into unnecessary space exploration, they wanted everyone to work to save the earth.
why not both?
Because space wasn't going to get them anywhere, thus a waste of money and manpower and motivation that could have been used to help the situation on earth
All it takes is one massive asteroid or gamma ray burst or global nuclear war and the only way humanity survives is if we've colonized space
But we haven't, because we can't.
We can colonize other planets in this solar system if we really put our minds to it but honestly the only other habitable one is Mars and it being the next one out from earth makes that kind of a lateral move at best. When the sun goes it's taking us with it either way
I know people think we'll unlock warp speed or wormholes or something but...no. The only thing that can go light speed is photons and it's because they literally have no mass at all. Any actual object has a limit on its acceleration. Alpha Centauri is "only" 4 light years away but what are we gonna do, launch a ship from the surface of Pluto and just put everyone into hibernation for the 1,000 years it's going to take to get there?
Mars isn’t habitable you moron
It was a billion years ago, sad
I don't mean you can just walk around on the surface but if you're going to build an off-world colony Mars is a lot more friendly than, say, Venus or Jupiter.
Yet moron
>he doesn't know
Well, the Cylon's shouldn't have rebelled if they didn't want to get nuked
>I know people think we'll unlock warp speed or wormholes or something but...no. The only thing that can go light speed is photons and it's because they literally have no mass at all.
In English, poindexter!
>it's because they literally have no mass at all.
No rest mass*
They have relativistic mass because they have momentum
>photons have no mass
>e=mc^2
E^2 = m^2c^4 + p^2c^2
we could send a ship to alpha centauri on like a 30 time frame with orbital based beam propulsion, proxima b is earth sized and in the habitable zone. i don't see us having the organization or resources to do that before the end of this century though, and that's if we don't have a civilization collapsing malthusian event that sets us back to pre-industrial times for generations. if we had any concern for our future the us and russia would agree to disarm all our nukes by using them on every city in asia and africa
>send a ship to alpha centauri on like a 30 time frame with orbital based beam propulsion,
lol no, that shit is a pipe dream for sending something smaller than the size of a raspberry pi, you know what something like that hurtling at relativistic speed will be good for when it gets there? Nothing. It has no hope of collecting much data, nor will it have a hope of transmitting it back.
>Wants to avoid industrial collapse by nuking half of our industrial base
Racists are so moronic it's unreal
Mars has barely any atmosphere and toxic soil, we have a better chance of making blimp cities on Venus, unironically.
>when the sun goes
Lad humanity isn’t making it millions of years
>30 posts into the Interstellar thread
>not one murph
Cinemaphile has fallen, billions must post the foy
omg is that mu'adib? i love willy wonka
if only that was my
at least the colour is accurate
Yeah, going into time dilation zone was moronic, but all the time shenanigans dialogue was enjoyable, nowadays it's overused. Also the tidal wave scene is absolute kino, I don't care if their reason to be there is stupid, I'm glad they filmed it.
>I don't care if their reason to be there is stupid, I'm glad they filmed it.
Same for me. I love this movie, but it is so fricking dumb.
>the dinky space shuttle thing can visit multiple planets in that black hole system, some of which suffer from extreme time dilation effects
lmao
>Rust steals a shuttle to go visit Hathaway, who apparently was not visited by any human since she was stranded on that planet, even though one can reach her easily with a shuttle.
?!
Yeah I didn’t understand this
I think the implication is that thanks to Murph's eureka moment, humans can make wormholes.
Neither did Nolan.
I think only Rust knew about Hathaway being stranded on that planet so they wouldn't have known until they rescued him and he told them.
>have a robot that can tread water so fast it's running on the surface
>no, let's go waddle through it instead to collect something
I wonder if in the next 10-20 years it will be remembered as being "Armageddon" levels of stupid. Having relativity, blackholes, and wormholes and trying (failing) to depict them realistically, maybe it's the same with Armageddon trying to depict the dangers of meteorites or something.
>he thinks it was intended to be realistic
It's entertainment, not a documentary. Reality is boring.
I keep forgetting how easily entertained morons are. It must be a blissful life.
>falls for marketing
>thinks he’s smart
Wew lad
sounds like a typical data analyst.
can't make a decision without a completed table set. how can we possibly make a profitable decision without hindering operations to the point of ineptitude and eventual bankruptcy?
>Crops wont grow
>Oops, maybe they'll grow better on a completely different planet surrounding a black hole
There’s a whole book written by a genuine Nobel laureate theoretical physicist that discusses everything about this movie and moronic Cinemaphile gays still b***h incorrectly about it. Fricking shithole board was better off when Abatap spammed his bullshit
If Christopher Nolan is so smart how come he can't figure out how audio mixing works?
>If Christopher Nolan is so smart how come he can't figure out how audio mixing works?
He lives in proximity of Gargantua, not even sound can escape the massive gravitational pull, and it gets distorted.
i hope you die in a fire. you, "science is a religion" types are unguided and have set back society to the dark ages part 2 ironically with your moron babble.
>a book told me space is real and the math checks out with other math people who get paid to say this is real
frick you
Astrophysics isn't science. Science is provable.
>Science is provable.
No empirical field deals with proof, you fricking brainlet. You will never be an epistemologist.
NTA but the film's central theme by the end is that human exceptionalism/spirit > science.
It does make use of a number of plausible scientific theories but all of that is ultimately bait and switch.
Love or some shit
Literally says the data is like 20 minutes relative to their time
would time relativity still apply if i had the magical power to instantly teleport to a planet on a far away galaxy and then instantly teleported back to earth
You could trivially make an tachyonic antitelephone if you have the power to teleport, so you could travel backwards through time.
>Spacelike separated points in spacetime have a reference frame dependent order in which they happen
>There is a reference frame in which you teleporting from Earth 2024 to Water Planet happens in that order
>There is a reference frame in which Earth Y2K happens after you teleported to Water Planet
>Make both these hops with your teleportation
>have a nice day as a child
Time dilation is the least of your concerns here.
read this 4 times and don't get it, what will happen on the fifth
if you teleport to a water planet and the equation for water is h20, you can harness the power of 2 ho's to escape the event horizon of a black hole. 1x1 = 2 ho's
No, because it would be virtually instant, right? You're not travelling through space the long way, you're bypassing it with a wormhole, so why would there any extreme time dilation?
Wouldnt it be easier to fix earth or live on mars than live on any of those wormhole planets?
She was a scientist. They're supposed to care about their life's work.
I love anne
even if she is a moron
I literally cummed in my pants the first time I saw this webm.
>Love is basically like the force from star wars
Bravo Nolan!
How were they able to break free of the gravity with tiny shuttle engines?
It was a light shuttle. If you can't generate more force, you move less mass instead
>it's not a mountain it's a wave
>Black person we saw this place from space we would know if there were mountains
>trying to leave earth because planet is doomed
>let's try to set up shop on a planet circling the drain of a black hole
Brand should have just said the further away, the better odds of finding hospitable land AND being able to use it for the foreseeable future.
>what time dialation does to a mf
i still think its hilarious that they just decided to abandon that one chick on the planet, presumably for the rest of her life and were all 'lol its okay, time dialation means we can like send someone to get her hundreds of years later lmao and only a little bit of time will have gone by for her ;)'
no... thats not okay. shes not gonna appreciate all her family and friends being dead after ahundred years pass, and since shes all by herself, shes probably freaking out worrying the whole time about possibly failing her mission and dooming humanity. Oh only a few days will have passed if you wait? What if she decides to just blow her fricking brains out, what then smart scientist man?
>but its more romantic if mc goes himself, maybe 😀
thats even more hilarious. you have an entire planet thats been mastering the technology that made this whole thing happen for decades but na..... let the rando go by himself, its gonna be fine.
That makes me wonder why anyone would want to live on time dilation station, like that, say there was life outside that planet that planet would be completely indefensible/ would be a world that could easily over night become blockaded / have enemy technology advance by thousands of years in a year
Why did he hate his son so much
His son wanted to be a red neck hick farmer and not an EPIC ENGINEER like himself and his girlboss daughter. He was SHAMEFUR DISPRAY because the movie was written by boomers who were groomed from birth to percieve the aggricultural sector as a place for backword illiterate savages.
which doesnt even make sense in the context of the movie since the movie's entire premise revolves around a dying planet where the most important thing in the world is big AGG... yet the population treat it like it ssome kind of janitorial work.
>nooo we need more votes and mo money fo dem programs, the world is in survival mode but we are still pretending women and minority groups need to be in charge to keep the heckin white malerinos in check
its the most unrealistic portrayal of a doomed world ive ever seen. they literally could have deep underground bunkers doing vertical grow ops manned by drones in sterile environments to mass product foodstuff but these mfs are out here growing corn like its the 1920s. and all the while, the people doing space research who have access to spaceship literally capable of traversing worm holes are like
>nooo we cant get more funding or let the public know, they only care about lgbtqp and #blacklives matter. time to kermit suicide!
>since the movie's entire premise revolves around a dying planet where the most important thing in the world is big AGG... yet the population treat it like it ssome kind of janitorial work.
Hmm where have I seen this before...
The choice of corn never made sense. It's a grain like any other. If wheat and barley are wiped out, so would corn be. Not to mention all the problems mass consumption of corn would lead to.
>PLEASE MAL DON'T JUMP! IF YOU DO I'LL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DEATH!
>DESPITE BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND WITH MULTIPLE CAMERAS AND WITNESS ATTESTING TO US ENTERING SEPERATE BUILDINGS PRIOR TO YOUR INCUICIDE!
>IF YOU JUMP I'LL HAVE TO HELP A asiatic BUSINESS MAN DREAM THIEF SCARECROW BECAUSE HE'S SOMEHOW THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN HELP GET MY KIDS BACK FROM EUROPE
As dumb as Interstellar was inception was much worse. imo it's nolan's worst and most overrated movie.
forgot pic
>jap guy is one of cillian murphy's biggest competitor
>he doesn't immediately recognize him
leads more credence that whatshisface was in a dream all along
Interstellar is such a well made disaster. The movie genuinely sucks and only the acting and effects are great. Frick you Nolan, fricking shit movie
I wish my brain was as small as yours so i could use my head for storage instead of housing it.
I just like Interstellar for the pretty imagery
Underwater colonize
Why do we pretend time dilation makes sense and isn’t just meta science gobblety asiatic
Time dilation (both velocity and gravity) have been proven
>hmm, this planet is right next to a black hole, yep that's totally viable
why the frick was that on the list to begin with?
And why didn't Mann just tell the truth about the planet he was on? What exactly did he gain from lying?
he wanted to get at that anne hathussy
>le word plus ussy
I thought I told you to go the frick back to 9gag.
He wanted to be the big hero who found the planet.
Astrophysics is literally just scientific fanfiction. They can't prove any of it and will never be able to.
This stuff wouldn't bother me if they wouldn't go on and on about all the scientific consultation and coordination they supposedly went through in making films like these.
Nothing because if he had just told them about the planet being shit they would still take him back to the ship and go to the third planet that's habitable. But nolan needed to force cooper inside a black hole and the best way to do that was for matt damon to start killing people for no reason.
No reason it wouldn't be viable. It can take thousands of years for something to fall into a black hole.
things don't fall into a black hole just randomly
that planet was on a stable trajectory and would remain in orbit around the black hole for probably trillions of years
The odds of a planet orbiting a supermassive black hole that close is basically zero.
The tidal forces alone would tear about the planet and the matter would get added to the accretion disc.
That’s why even the film only showed one planet, and not hundreds (or thousands) because even they knew (albeit in a dumb of subconscious level) that planets orbiting black holes is balls-on-fire moronic.
But Nolan NEEDED a black hole to factor in to the plot so he could get his CGI team to create one.
the frick are you talking about?
the tidal forces around a supermassive black hole are LOWER than those around a stellar one
the more massive an object is, the further away the orbit can be and the more gradual the tidal forces would be
it's why the planets most subject to stellar tidal forces are those around red dwarves
Show me a black hole with planets orbiting around it.
Oh wait, you can’t, because they don’t exist.
I guess it’s possible that a rogue planet could be captured by a black hole, but that means it’s the worst candidate for a planet to ever live on since there’s no source of solar radiation. The radiation from the black hole would make everything sterile and evaporate all the water.
That’s why this film is dumb. There are billions of stars in the Milky Way alone, and millions of planets in habitable zones.
Going to another galaxy is quite moronic, especially since the title of the film is Interstellar anyways.
>Show me a black hole with planets orbiting around it.
There have been very few confirmed blackhole discoveries but that doesn't mean that anon's science is inaccurate. Black holes themselves were discovered mathematically before they were discovered observationally. What he is saying is speculative(basis of the entire scifi genre) but not illogical.
I can tell you're not an actual physics grad. Very likely some "science enthusiast".
there's one avenue of a planet orbiting a stellar remnant singularity, where enough molten material stays behind after a supernova it coalesces back into a rocky body, a planet, in a stable orbit around said singularity
there's nothing in physics that forbids this and even if it's something that only happens in 0.1% of all stellar remnant supernovae, that still would give you millions of such planets in our galaxy alone
another avenue is captured rogue planets, which again, would be incredibly rare but the sheer size of the galaxy means there's probably a few of those around
probability gets funky when dealing with something as ludicrous in size as a galaxy
There's some science fiction about the solar system passing a black hole and slingshotting Earth into space. Which as you said is a small chance but very possible.
never said anything about how realistic planets orbiting singularities is, just that out of all the problems, tidal forces are not one of them
in fact supermassive black holes have tidal forces so gentle you would not even physically notice passing beyond the event horizon and could live out your entire life on an inward spiraling trajectory within said event horizon (in theory, disregarding everything else about radiation and such) without ever noticing significant harmful effects from tidal variation
>But Nolan NEEDED a black hole to factor in to the plot so he could get his CGI team to create one.
You're moronic. The script was already mostly developed before Nolan joined in. It was originally developed by Kip Thorne and Jonathan Nolan.
Did you know what that had? It two black holes in orbit of each other, they navigate between the black holes and end up on the Ice Planet.
People much smarter than you were involved in this project. They know it's scientifically inaccurate. But they have something called common sense and artistic sensibilities, so they don't let minutae of science get in the way of a good story.
> They know it's scientifically inaccurate
Bravo skip Thorne, bravo.
Lmao. If I was him, I’d have my name removed from anything related to this film.
After the checks clear, of course.
>Bravo skip Thorne, bravo.
>Lmao. If I was him, I’d have my name removed from anything related to this film.
But you're not him. You're just midwit who's neither good at science nor art. He's a smart man who understands both(his veraion of Interstellar was even more innaccurate). There's never been a sci-fi film that's accurate to the minutae if details. It's just a way for unimaginative morons like you to discuss cinema and feel smart about it.
Women moment
Doyle bros, not like this.
He shouldn't have died for this restart roasty c**t
There is no actual proof he died, technically he was only there for not even a whole day by the end of the movie and could still be alive.
This one is a proof for me that stunning visuals and music can overwhelm atrocious writing for the audience.
It was probably my fifth viewing across the years when I finally realized he died for absolutely no reason, Nolan was just done with him.
When you look at it again, the logistics of that scene are insane.
>Dude is standing right next to the ship
>Dies because he just stands there watching instead of getting inside
Only thing I really hate about this movie
nolan movies rely on the characters being dumb for the plot to work, it is like horror
>and then Edward from Twilight saved the day and then a big guy 4u shows up and Ellen Page chops off her breasts and then World War 2 happened then Bane blows up a football field and then Leonardo DiCaprio sees an old Asian man and then Batman DIES
BRAVO NOLAN
This movie would be much better if all humans went full moron with love or whatever so robot AI had to save everyone. Robot was the best part of this dumb movie anyway.
Stupid overrated dumb ass movie with the power of love
The most moronic part is that the scientist had only been on the planet for some minutes by internal time, so they had to know that nothing of use had been done there.
Anyone else buttblasted at the lack of space kino? I had to rewatch Event Horizon to get my fix. There's so many possibilities for making adventure or horror movies in space, how can they sleep on the idea of floating in some frick off planet position ten billion miles from earth? There's nothing more endless in its possibilities than this.
Because every homosexual wants to recreate 2001 while having to appeal to the large amount of poz homosexualry that whether you like it or not has a hold on the majority of the potential fanbase/market. I actually indirectly got into a little bit trouble at work because I insulted a manager who recommended Ad Astra to me.
There are no better space movies than 2001 and Interstellar. Sunshine is alright but that's it. Moon is good but it's barely a space movie in the traditional sense, more of a clone movie.
>wtf was his problem
Bad writing.
ITT: homies who forgot the its called “science” - FICTION
Look at all these dumbass homies thinking they be astro physicists and shit LMFAOOOOO
>Neil DeGrasse Tyson browses Cinemaphile
Now that I think about it I'm not surprised at all.
Spit dat cum out yo mouth before talking white boy
>muh father's love for his child
>completely ignores his son throughout the movie and focuses solely on his daughter
Interstellar? More like uuooohhhh.
I had to be deliberate. It's not like it would have taken much. Just Coop picking up a picture and looking at it while in the house on the ship or something.
It was so unnecessary and easy to avoid. Just make Murph his only daughter and you're good. Everyone with his son was just presented as some bullshit heavy handed stand in for regressive luddites and only serves as needless friction which only questions his "love" for his child. What a fricking disaster.
This movie is quite confounding; it utterly fails in so many ways, yet has a few all-time cool set pieces. As dumb as this scene was, the giant wave rushing towards them, the music (each tick of the metronome was supposed to be a year going by on earth), the tension building towards the last second salvation... it's fricking cool.
That "It's not possible", :"no, it's neccessary" line and flying the ship back into the space station is sweet. Pretty sure Nolan must have woken up from a fever dream with all these kino visions in his head and just mashed them all together with a big $$$ budget. They should have scrapped the movie and just released a few of the best clips onto youtube or something.
nvm each tick on the water planet was a day, not a year.
All those shots of the small space crafts against the vast space look so damn ridiculous. Like 70s eastern European cartoon shit.
Instead of wasting money flying into the space they could've spent on social programs for the black community
you are being facetious but you can do both.
Tenet is Nolan’s actual masterpiece
This film is filled with dumb and this isn’t even the most egregious example.
What I don't get is why the frick they even have to get off of earth to begin with
sure there's a disease fricking up all the crops and it's in the air and what not
But the basic, absolute fricking basic, most requirement of being up in space is being really fricking good at making sealed environments
So if they are going to live in a sealed space station above earth, then why the frick not build giant domes ON earth
That has got to be dramatically easier
it was a backup plan
But why is it a backup plan?
If you can live in space there's literally 0 reason to do so until after earth is so crowded you have to
just build domes one earth and get your oxygen from water or rocks or any of the many many many places you can get oxygen from on earth, even if it's no longer naturally in the environment
pure nitrogen atmosphere sure as hell beats whatever any other planet has cooked up
like, how do those other planets even have oxygen to begin with, you need some kind of process to have a constant supply of oxygen
What happened with the blight? Why didn't they just find the cure for this plant disease, instead of doing some convoluted plot that involved sending people into space to travel to the orbit of Saturn, jumping into wormhole to travel around several planets around the black hole, then sending one man into the black hole with him ending up in the 4th dimmension and communicating with his daughter in the past using the malfunctioning clock and sending her the necessary data to solve the gravity equation? Why not just ...find the cure for the blight or just build underground bunkers where people would grow crops in the insulated greenhouse farms?
To have a space odyssey movie with high stakes.
How do you "cure" a genetically engineered bioweapon that is designed to constantly get past such attempts? Besides quarantine?
when did it become a bioweapon?
the war mentioned a few times in the movie?
Funniest part of the film is how 20-years later on Earth and everything is basically the same and people are still alive somehow.
Like what are all the super secret NASA people eating? Magical food?
If there was a global food borne illness that caused that much damage, then humanity would basically be brought to its knees.
I don’t give a shit about solving a “gravity equation” that allows you to build O’Neil cylinders, if you don’t have any food to support construction crews.
Interstellar is the best midwit science fiction movie ever made.
D-Movie level writing with a $100,000,000 budget.
watch the movie instead of looking at your phone, nitwit.
Lmfao
The more you watch this film, the dumber it becomes.
also even if the daughter solved the gravity issue, how did that then immediately translate into a starving, uneducated, rural, population suddenly managing to get together and start building massive space stations for humanity to live in?
Because they can just build them on earth then take them to orbit. You realise what we could do in space today if we suddenly solved antigravity?
but why bother with putting them into space
on earth you don't need magnetic shielding, protection from space debris, have direct access to all building materials
even with the blight, earth would still be the most hospitable place to humanity in the universe
No because anywhere on earth is susceptible to the blight. Even domes.
It doesn’t.
You can’t build O’Neil cylinders without decades (or centuries) of time, fusion energy, and manpower.
The entire premise behind O’Neil cylinders is that you turn the entire planet into them and then, because you’ve basically hollowed out the planet, that they can now float away from each other as independent space stations.
This requires people to live in them while the other ones are being built since the mass construction makes the rest of the planet inhabitable.
you don't need to hollow out entire planets, that's just wasteful, what you do is you hollow out asteroids
point otherwise stands though
>point otherwise stands though
No it doesnt
You are an absolute moron. I bet you were actually confusing this for something you half heard on Dyson spheres. we would start constructing O’Neil cylinders today if suddenly gravity was no longer a problem.
>was
were*
Hypothetical subjunctive
damn, you know better grammar therefore you are correct.
>ship full of NASAs finest
>farmer draws crude model on whiteboard
>yeah, that COULD work
unbelievable, really
>We need to find a good habitable planet for humans
>We are on a ship in a far away system with limited fuel
>Lets land on this 100% ocean planet so close to a black hole we'll be gone for 20 years yes this is a good candidate for humans to live in
>without getting sweeped by 200 feet tall waves
don't forget the time dilation due to the proximity to the supermassive black hole
Time is literally just a made up concept for mathematical convenience. The past and future aren’t real. Why is every moron on the planet convinced it’s some sort of infallible law of nature?
Time is a necessary part of Einstein's theory of general relativity. It may be one of the shortcomings of the theory that prevent it from being able to integrate with quantum mechanics though, and therefore may not actually exist. Basically, we don't actually know for certain what time is or if its "real".
4:20 is where it gets into this.
Time is the thin line. You know...*lights up a cig*, when you're dealing with equations, and let's face it, we're dealing with equations here, you always gotta see the whole picture. "Look beyond" is what I say. Alright, gotta bounce. Stay real.
Time is real you morons. You try not getting older: good luck with that
1) Time is reversible in quantum mechanics and particle physics (i.e. it has no direction)
2) Time has a direction in the macro scale (we experience the arrow of time)
Both of these can and are true simultaneously. This is because time is an emergent phenomena. If you have "large N" bodies interacting with each other, there is symmetry breaking and an emergent arrow of time
Anyone who wants to get to grips with this should study statistical mechanics
Everyone believes in time. 'til they run out of it, that is.
This movie gets worse and worse the more you think about it.
This is only the case if you care about scientific accuracy. The film dabs on it which is based.
Except for the fact they marketed the movie as something scientifically well researched. Also
>muh love
Sci-fi movies have never delved into false advertising, you're right
robbie the robot is real.
>xcept for the fact they marketed the movie as something scientifically well researched.
In almost every interview I've seen they insist story and theme take precedence over scientific accuracy.
Interviews =/= marketing
>nooooo the film people lied to me to make me watch their film whyyyy
I still can't get over Nolan crushing the most intense scene of the first half with TARS' robot humor. There was a totally acceptable scene about five minutes later when that could have been discussed just fine. I remember actually gasping in the theater.
Why does the love angle upset people so much? It's one of the only things that sets us apart from animals, otherwise we're just smarter hairless apes.
Clueless moron.
Many animals rear their young, form family units and practice monogamy.
Humans are only different because of higher intelligence and language.
Because they're redditors.
>Midwits don’t really fundamentally understand any form of creative medium. They don’t partake in an aesthetic experience or an artistic reality but just a story. Plotholes matter more than what emotions and themes are evoked. They throw a fit whenever sentimentality is combined with realism in any way because years of cringe millennial pseudo nihilism shit weaned them on the idea that “realistic” things have to be stark and empty and morose. They also place a lot of stock in sticking rigidly to certain dogmas and so when you introduce some sort of metaphysics or emotional element that instantly infringes on the “science and facts” scheme of ideas in their head, it creates a dissonance because they need rigid sets of ideas for what constitutes realistic or not realistic. Add to that midwit insecurity and needing to vociferously assert when they feel they are smarter than the content they consume, and you have the reaction to this movie. I don’t even like it that much myself but it’s a good insight into the mind of a redditor.
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Interstellar is the quintessential reddit movie though.
Interstellar is a really stupid movie, but did she know which planet her boyfriend Matt Damon went to?
The biggest problem with this movie was that awful american accent. US distributors demand thick accents get re-made for wider distro, yet apparently some unintelligible gargling is A-Ok because muh america. Nothing but hypocrites really. But then, i was never really about accents. It was always about control.
It's becoming harder and harder to watch movies with the monopoly those people have on everything. I hate america. I hate it's people, it's culture and above all I hate it's economy. This IS hell. There is no doubt about that.
>I hate america. I hate it's people, it's culture and above all I hate it's economy. This IS hell. There is no doubt about that.
KINO
The best part was because of the dilation the last team had only been there a few minutes more than them. So she risked the mission for data they already had, just from like half an hour earlier. Bravo Nolan.
I miss him
>1 hour = 7 years
So you could stay on that planet flying around and dodging the waves and when you went back to outer space the universe would be frozen right?
Imagine spending one year there.
It'd be like 60,000 years. But that's not enough.
TEN FRICKING YEARS there.
That's 600,000 years. Is this when the Sun's supposed to explode?
That's an interesting theoretical and yeah, I guess you could. Problem being, I doubt you have 10 years worth of fuel on your little puddle jumper. It's just a landing vehicle.
>Opening a wormhole and building a ring world is easier than using some fertilizer
How did they even land? If the time dilation was that huge the planet should be orbiting like 10% light speed or something.
The time dilation is the result of being deep in the gravity well of the black hole. The planet can orbit its sun which orbits the black hole at an approachable rate.
Wouldn't the sky look all fricked up if there's such an extreme time dilation? Like everything would be going fast as frick up there.
would it? wouldn't the light approaching the planet also slow down, therefore making it look normal?
But there has to be a point where you can be on the "edge" and watch for example how MC Ride ages 7 years per hour.
>wouldn't the light approaching the planet also slow down
The speed of light is fixed
>300 posts
>no TARS or CASE
Frick you.
I liked them