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>We could ask the Eagles but they would probably say no.
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Nice of them to rescue Sam and Frodo at the end, though.
Three eagles came, one to rescue Gollum too, but the false god and mass-murderer had already bloodied his hands yet again.
>though
Would it be fair to consider them plot accessories, considering they are just beasts? Without a soul, proud tribal beings, underdeveloped, unable to make proper decisions without being influenced by a white or grey Maiar?
They're not black dude
Beat me to it
eagles actually have genius tier IQs they’re just “not my problem” radical centrists
>eagles actually have genius tier IQs they’re just “not my problem”
Damn the eagles are fricking based.
They talk the video games it's creepy as frick.
They just want to grill for Eru's sake
>be eagle
>dump oil in kitchen sink
They're like the US in WW2. They come in at the end and then take all the credit for saving the day.
They are literally a Deus Ex Aquila.
Which is a plot device.
Yes, that was the point.
Yes. Tolkien didn't want Frodo and Sam to die in the end so he had them saved by literal divine intervention. He didn't have the eagles fly them to Mordor because it would make for an extremely boring story. It's as simple as that.
moron anon cant tell when someones agreeing with him
they look like Black folk to you?
the whole point was to keep the ring out of view
I fricking hate the fricking Eagles, man...
Out of my fricking cab!
i'm curious, why didnt he take the eagles and flew straight to the mountain? in the movies i can accept the flying nazgul agrument, but there are no such things in the books, so why? was gandalf actually moronic?
The ring would also corrupt them being so close in proximity to it.
Just use a bit of string
This. Why didn’t Frodo just drag the ring to Mordor on a 10’ string?
They can't put it on though
You don't have to put it on to be influenced by it.
Do the eagles have large talons?
Entrusting the ring to the hobbits was to ensure secrecy. Flying a bunch of eagles to Mordor isn't exactly the most subtle way to go about it.
>Why didn't CIA just kill Bane the second he saw him?
>Why didn't Macready just let the swedes kill the dog then ask questions later?
>Why didn't Amadeus just frick Mozart's wife?
Stories are borne on the back of incongruity
They could have. Gandalf had pretty much total control of the Eagles and could call on them for rides at any moment like he did when trapped by Saruman. Buy the real reason is that if they had gone straight there, their quest would have failed due to all of Sauron's might still being concentrated there and if it didn't fail somehow, the people of middle earth would still be divided and broken. All alone the journey they rally people, unite people, free them from curses, draw out Sauron's and Saruman's forces and widdle them down. This all needed to happen for middle earth to prosper post-ring.
Imagine if they hadn't defeated Saruman and he still controlled orthanc, the urukhai and essentially Rohan. He could have immediately sent them against Gondor plus used his magic, and if Aragorn wasn't there as a leader, then Denethor would have easily fallen.
Nice.
>Gandalf had pretty much total control of the Eagles and could call on them for rides at any moment like he did when trapped by Saruman.
That's not true. They are servants of Manwe. It's not the job in Eru Iluvatar's creation for Manwe or the eagles to get this job done. Everything has its role to play. It's all connected to the Ainulindalë, when Eru Iluvatar wove new melodies to bring the existence of discordance back into harmony and make creation all the more beautiful for that happening. The hobbits are supposed to do it because it's more heroic and beautiful.
>flying nazgul agrument, but there are no such things in the books
you should be drawn and quartered
>doesn’t know about the Mordor SAM batteries
>n the movies i can accept the flying nazgul agrument, but there are no such things in the books
wrong
because picrel
>why didnt he take the eagles and flew straight to the mountain? in the movies i can accept the flying nazgul argument, but there are no such things in the books, so why?
there are too many lotr memes to know if this is a troll or not but in the book yes, its specifically mentioned that the nazgul are patrolling the border 24/7 until the war starts. thats their actual orders. thats also why they all fly away and leave the border open for frodo right at the start of the war when they invade gondor. it even effects the plot because part of the argument the orcs have when transporting the hobbits is where to take them. during a night that they are camping, some souron aligned orks leave camp and ride closer to the border to meet with a nazgul and pass off information, they nazgul couldnt fly their himself because of his order to patrol, looking out for anything trying to sneak into moria
if you want a tldr. you morons just need to accept that youre stupid and that tolkien was both smarter than you and cared a lot about the lore of his stories. if you think you spot i plot hole, i can assure you youre wrong and youre just a fricking numb nuts drooling moronic Black person instead
Mount doom had SAMs that are guided by the eye of sauron
Why didn't they get Tom Cruise to fly the eagles then?
They could have used older eagles flying fast at low altitude
The Nazgul were mounted on 5th generation fell beasts, they'd have no chance
5th gen are turkeys. eagles had proven and reliable tech with experience to match.
Plus it would be a violation of international law even IF sauron had an "illegal" ring enchantment facility. They didn't have any evidence that it was even operational at the time
bump
But what if we FRICK the eagles to Mordor, Gandalf?
>fly to Mordor
>Eru appears and strikes you down
>uhhh you're supposed to suffer and shit
Likewise, they were destined to succeed, but only through suffering. They however were never in mortal danger, and any obstacle that the could not be overcome on their own, would be taken care of by Eru (like murdering Gollum). The whole story of LOTR is a sham, a cruel past-time by an butthole god, who struck down man simply for trying to attain immortality.
>Try to create life
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT. THIS IS MY SONG
>FRICK YOUR BEARDED MIDGETS I DECIDE WHEN THEY STOP BEING STONE
thats not true, eru wasnt effected until the very end and part of the reason he killed gollum was because he felt bad for him too, it wasnt some hellfire punishment. but yes, all the gods by that point have decided not to care, basically officially. the wizards are just a parting gift after their decision not to care or help middle earth any more
eru is old school god and basically states that all good and bad come from him/is allowed by him. he literally laughs in melkors face when he tries to rebel by pointing out there is literally no possible way for melkor to defy Him because He is all and everything comes from Him
eru is a "maybe the real lord of the rings were the friends we made along the way" poster
normal lotr liker
>why not just take the eagles?
ravage lotr turbo nerd
>UMMM they weren't just ANY eagles they were a unique race of bird citizens and they were lead by a king named King Ethalborr who was the reincarnation of the world spirit, Gath'raele and they were beholden to NO one
every time.
have you not read the hobbit?
you should read it, its great
LOTR nerds got shoved in lockers back in my day.
Why do people like pretending to be moronic? Eagles don't work because the point of the quest is secrecy. Sauron never even entertained the notion that someone might resist the Ring enough to want to destroy it. Rushing into Mordor towards mt doom with eagles just puts him on high alert, sends the 9 Nazgul to keep the eagles busy while Sauron walls off mt doom and hope is forever lost.
The eagles could still have just dropped them close to Mordor, if done fast enough Sauron wouldn't even know what the frick happened. Just accept it's a contrived plot device.
>J. R. R. Tolkien referred to their appearances in The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings as "a dangerous 'machine'".[17] This was in a letter refusing permission to a film adapter to have the Fellowship of the Ring transported by eagles rather than traveling on foot. He felt that the eagles had already been overused as a plot device and they have elsewhere been critiqued as a deus ex machina.[18]
>the one place on Middle Earth where I can be utterly btfo'd? nah I dont think I'll bother fortifying it and instead spend thousands of years doing literally nothing.
Sauron should have at least put a fricking door at the entrance.
They should make a prequal about how the architect built it that way like in fricking Rogue One.
Not only would the eye see them the winged wraiths would see them and stop them too. Before the battles nothing could kill them, certainly not eagles.
>In Peter Jackson's the lord of the rings, why didn't the eagles just take the hobbits to Mordor straight away?
>oh, you're under some intense time constraints?
>well let's just schlep our shit in the opposite direction of our final destination
>wander a massive mountain range
>and hope some giant birds are in and feel like a chat.
How the frick would YOU go about contacting a bunch of birds, Master Brandybuck?! Hmmm? Or you, our esteemed Captain of Gondor?
A bit of birdseed on your palm?
A birdhouse the size of Helm's Deep?
Perhaps a huge fricking whistle? I suppose you've made all this in advance, the Haradrim are gathered and marching on our southern border as we speak. I trust you've been monitoring the situation for the last 50 years with rapt attention!
Or we can listen to Gandalf, and start stepping.
>le heckin secrecy
FRICK YOU
it's not like today if someone saw the eagles flying from Australia to England we would know immediately from twitter, in LOTR information travels by word and therefore takes for FRICKING EVER. The eagles should have just fricking dropped it in the mountain selfish fricks
Didn't they explain why they didn't fly in using eagles by saying that the eagles would easily be spotted and then the witch kings on their flying horses would take them out. I mean the whole reason they had to simply walk in to Mordor was because they couldn't afford to attract attention.
Why do people think the Eagles wouldn't get corrupted by the ring like every non-Hobbit creature does?
Does this Lourdov guy come up again or did I miss something?